Melatonin

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> Start on a lower dose. I'm 200 lbs and if I take 5mg it knocks me out. Time

release would be good if there is a problem waking throughout the night. If it

is just an issue of initially falling asleep, regular melatonin works fine.

> This is a natural hormone that is produced in the body and can be safely used

for as long as needed.

> TJ

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> From: hndnfd <dhdudley@...>

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> Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 5:18:30 AM

> Subject: [ ] Melatonin

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> I read to try melatonin for a person not sleeping... up to 10mg. We have a 13

year old girl about 105 lbs. Would timed released melatonin be appropriate for

her? 10mgs? For how long would this be safe?

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> Thank you for the advise.

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> Connie

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I have trouble both falling and staying asleep, and melatonin was not the thing

for me. I took 1 mg and woke up at 1am with racing thoughts. It was bizarre.

It is awesome for my ASD son at that dose.

Serotonin is a precursor to melatonin. When melatonin levels increase,

serotonin levels tend to decrease. I do remember low serotonin levels can lead

to disrupted sleep (as well as high melatonin). I wonder of those with already

low serotonin might not do well with melatonin supplements? Or maybe I am one

of those who really should be taking a amounts like .1mg instead of 1mg?

Any thoughts? I won't take it again, that's for sure.

Pam

>

> Start on a lower dose. I'm 200 lbs and if I take 5mg it knocks me out. Time

release would be good if there is a problem waking throughout the night. If it

is just an issue of initially falling asleep, regular melatonin works fine.

> This is a natural hormone that is produced in the body and can be safely used

for as long as needed.

> TJ

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>

> ________________________________

> From: hndnfd <dhdudley@...>

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> Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 5:18:30 AM

> Subject: [ ] Melatonin

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>  

> I read to try melatonin for a person not sleeping... up to 10mg. We have a 13

year old girl about 105 lbs. Would timed released melatonin be appropriate for

her? 10mgs? For how long would this be safe?

>

> Thank you for the advise.

>

> Connie

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HI Pam,

I know that when I started my dd on melatonin, we used only about .5 mg and she

still had extremely vivid dreams and nightmares.  I cut it back to only .3 mg

and she did fine.  I've heard that melatonin can increase the vividness of

dreams, and when you have a kid who has lots of nightmares, that's not always a

good thing.  We're almost four years later here, and I usually give her a little

less than 1 mg and she's adjusted fine.  The dreams are normal now and the sleep

is wonderful - my highly anxious child can relax and get the sleep she needs.

Janelle

[Guest guest]

Hi,

My son takes 3mg for years .I never had a problem.I take sometimes 3 mg when I

know I won't sleep well without any problems.

Take care,

 

A.Simon,  

" I know God promises not to give me more than I can handle.

 I just wish he didn't trust me so much. " -Mother

From: Janelle Craig <bruce.craig@...>

Subject: [ ] Re: Melatonin

Date: Friday, February 5, 2010, 2:12 PM

 

HI Pam,

I know that when I started my dd on melatonin, we used only about .5 mg and she

still had extremely vivid dreams and nightmares.  I cut it back to only .3 mg

and she did fine.  I've heard that melatonin can increase the vividness of

dreams, and when you have a kid who has lots of nightmares, that's not always a

good thing.  We're almost four years later here, and I usually give her a

little less than 1 mg and she's adjusted fine.  The dreams are normal now and

the sleep is wonderful - my highly anxious child can relax and get the sleep she

needs.

Janelle

[Guest guest]

If you have been sleep deprived a long time, it is normal to have vivid dreams

when you first begin sleeping deeply again, regardless of the method that gets

you there. So it may not be the melatonin per se. When you are sleep deprived,

you are dream deprived. Most people experience or interpret these vivid dreams

as 'nightmares'. If you are aware you will have them, it is possible to view

them and experience them more neutrally.

For a long time, if I took melatonin, I felt half-asleep for up to three days.

Later, when I was healthier, I was able to take low doses of melatonin. I

bought a 300mcg dose of it and took several of those rather than the 3mg dose

that you commonly see. However, even during the time that I regularly took

melatonin, I also needed co-q-10 in the morning to fully wake up.

I have taken co-q-10 in the morning for several years. It is the co-enzyme of

melatonin: Where melatonin chemically puts the brain to sleep, co-q-10 wakes it

up. Taking melatonin does not increase production of co-q-10 in the body but

taking co-q-10 does increase production of melatonin about 12 hours later. So

it helps address the entire waking and sleeping cycle of the brain instead of

just one half of it. It is a gentler means to do so and I think more complete.

Co-q-10 is made in the body in a complex 17 step process. A bottleneck at any

point in the process will leave you deficient. So people tend to become

deficient in it as they age. It is generally recommended as a supplement one

should take as they get older. I also take co-q-10 as heart and lung support.

I read recently that people with my genetic disorder tend to be deficient in it,

which fits with my experience. I took very high doses of it for some years --

up to 400mg to 600mg a day (which gets rather pricey, even if you stock up when

it is half price). I now take 30mg to 60mg about 5 mornings a week. I still

need it to help me wake up on work days but I usually don't take it on my days

off.

Good luck with this.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

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> I have trouble both falling and staying asleep, and melatonin was not the

thing for me. I took 1 mg and woke up at 1am with racing thoughts. It was

bizarre. It is awesome for my ASD son at that dose.

>

> Serotonin is a precursor to melatonin. When melatonin levels increase,

serotonin levels tend to decrease. I do remember low serotonin levels can lead

to disrupted sleep (as well as high melatonin). I wonder of those with already

low serotonin might not do well with melatonin supplements? Or maybe I am one

of those who really should be taking a amounts like .1mg instead of 1mg?

>

> Any thoughts? I won't take it again, that's for sure.

>

> Pam

>

[Guest guest]

I was taking 100 mg co-Q10 for quite a while (for a rapid heart rate). I just

started taking it again. It sure is expensive!

Pam

> >

> > I have trouble both falling and staying asleep, and melatonin was not the

thing for me. I took 1 mg and woke up at 1am with racing thoughts. It was

bizarre. It is awesome for my ASD son at that dose.

> >

> > Serotonin is a precursor to melatonin. When melatonin levels increase,

serotonin levels tend to decrease. I do remember low serotonin levels can lead

to disrupted sleep (as well as high melatonin). I wonder of those with already

low serotonin might not do well with melatonin supplements? Or maybe I am one

of those who really should be taking a amounts like .1mg instead of 1mg?

> >

> > Any thoughts? I won't take it again, that's for sure.

> >

> > Pam

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[Guest guest]

Someone once said that magnesium is one of the building blocks for co-q-10. And

it's lots cheaper. You could try upping that as well and see if it does any

good.

You could also try raising the bar on the cleanliness of your sleep area and see

if that does anything to alleviate your sleep issues. When we did that for my

youngest son, his need for supplements dropped dramatically and he slept like a

growing child for many weeks (maybe 10 weeks?) even though he was already 18/19

years old.

Michele

http://www.healthgazelle.com

http://www.kidslikemine.com

http://www.solanorail.com

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> I was taking 100 mg co-Q10 for quite a while (for a rapid heart rate). I just

started taking it again. It sure is expensive!

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> Pam

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Me and my son both take 5mg. I am 175 lbs and he is 130 lbs.

In a message dated 3/12/2010 7:31:03 P.M. Central Standard Time (Mex,

tj_werth@... writes:

I'm 200 lbs and 1mg works on me. It depends on the person. Start with 1mg

and go up or down from there.

TJ

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Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 5:08:18 PM

Subject: [ ] Melatonin

how much melationin has anyone given a 75lb. child?

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I'm 200 lbs and 1mg works on me. It depends on the person. Start with 1mg and go

up or down from there.

TJ

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From: Peggy <diamond12345@...>

Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 5:08:18 PM

Subject: [ ] Melatonin

 

how much melationin has anyone given a 75lb. child?

[Guest guest]

Pam, perhaps 1mg. was not enough?

> >

> > Start on a lower dose. I'm 200 lbs and if I take 5mg it knocks me out. Time

release would be good if there is a problem waking throughout the night. If it

is just an issue of initially falling asleep, regular melatonin works fine.

> > This is a natural hormone that is produced in the body and can be safely

used for as long as needed.

> > TJ

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: hndnfd <dhdudley@>

> >

> > Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 5:18:30 AM

> > Subject: [ ] Melatonin

> >

> >  

> > I read to try melatonin for a person not sleeping... up to 10mg. We have a

13 year old girl about 105 lbs. Would timed released melatonin be appropriate

for her? 10mgs? For how long would this be safe?

> >

> > Thank you for the advise.

> >

> > Connie

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i was able to get her to sleep with a teeny bit of melatonin (less than 1MG) and

some lithium orotate and then all of a sudden it stopped working. she flops

around in bed like a fish out of water all night long. i am going to try upping

the melatonin tonight.

On Mar 12, 2010, at 7:30 PM, TJ Werth wrote:

> I'm 200 lbs and 1mg works on me. It depends on the person. Start with 1mg and

go up or down from there.

> TJ

>

> ________________________________

> From: Peggy <diamond12345@...>

>

> Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 5:08:18 PM

> Subject: [ ] Melatonin

>

>

> how much melationin has anyone given a 75lb. child?

>

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1mg is nothing to me, I'm 120lb, usually don't need any, but if have troubles

sleeping I will take at least 3mg

My almost 50lb kid doing good with 2.5mg and time released works best if you

have 8 hours for rest, if less then 4hours I just use regular one

Natalia

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[ ] Melatonin

> >

> >  

> > I read to try melatonin for a person not sleeping... up to 10mg. We have a

13 year old girl about 105 lbs. Would timed released melatonin be appropriate

for her? 10mgs? For how long would this be safe?

> >

> > Thank you for the advise.

> >

> > Connie

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what difference do you see with the time released? thanks

On Mar 12, 2010, at 7:46 PM, nvibbott@... wrote:

> 1mg is nothing to me, I'm 120lb, usually don't need any, but if have troubles

sleeping I will take at least 3mg

> My almost 50lb kid doing good with 2.5mg and time released works best if you

have 8 hours for rest, if less then 4hours I just use regular one

> Natalia

> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

>

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>>> I read to try melatonin for a person not sleeping... up to 10mg. We have a

13 year old girl about 105 lbs. Would timed released melatonin be appropriate

for her? 10mgs? For how long would this be safe?

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>>> Thank you for the advise.

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>>> Connie

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[Guest guest]

Well it works over the 8 hours period, so if regular one puts person to sleep,

but may not keep you asleep all night, time released Melatonin will work slowly

and provide you with longer resting period, you just have to make sure you have

at least 8 hours to rest so you or child will be awake when needed

Also Natural calm magnesium works good and if you see signs of yeast,

antifunguls before bed also helpful for good rest

Natalia

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[ ] Melatonin

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>>> Â

>>> I read to try melatonin for a person not sleeping... up to 10mg. We have a

13 year old girl about 105 lbs. Would timed released melatonin be appropriate

for her? 10mgs? For how long would this be safe?

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>>> Thank you for the advise.

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>>> Connie

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so you would give it through out the day?

On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:00 PM, nvibbott@... wrote:

> Well it works over the 8 hours period, so if regular one puts person to sleep,

but may not keep you asleep all night, time released Melatonin will work slowly

and provide you with longer resting period, you just have to make sure you have

at least 8 hours to rest so you or child will be awake when needed

> Also Natural calm magnesium works good and if you see signs of yeast,

antifunguls before bed also helpful for good rest

> Natalia

> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

>

> [ ] Melatonin

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>>>> Â

>>>> I read to try melatonin for a person not sleeping... up to 10mg. We have a

13 year old girl about 105 lbs. Would timed released melatonin be appropriate

for her? 10mgs? For how long would this be safe?

>>>>

>>>> Thank you for the advise.

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>>>> Connie

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[Guest guest]

No, not during the day,

I give it at one time before bed, and it works over night, for 8 hours from the

time when giving, but if my son wakes up at night, then I give another 1 or 2mg

of the regular one to make sure he gets some more rest, but not sleeping for too

long

Let me know if I can help more

Natalia

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[ ] Melatonin

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>>>> Â

>>>> I read to try melatonin for a person not sleeping... up to 10mg. We have a

13 year old girl about 105 lbs. Would timed released melatonin be appropriate

for her? 10mgs? For how long would this be safe?

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>>>> Thank you for the advise.

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>>>> Connie

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[Guest guest]

oh great. that may work better here. when i give the regular one she gets

impulsive. it seems to jolt her system or something. perhaps the slow released

will kind of sneak up on her if you know what i mean. it't worth a try.

On Mar 12, 2010, at 8:27 PM, nvibbott@... wrote:

> No, not during the day,

> I give it at one time before bed, and it works over night, for 8 hours from

the time when giving, but if my son wakes up at night, then I give another 1 or

2mg of the regular one to make sure he gets some more rest, but not sleeping for

too long

> Let me know if I can help more

> Natalia

> Sent from my BlackBerry® smartphone with Nextel Direct Connect

>

> [ ] Melatonin

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>>>>> I read to try melatonin for a person not sleeping... up to 10mg. We have a

13 year old girl about 105 lbs. Would timed released melatonin be appropriate

for her? 10mgs? For how long would this be safe?

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>>>>> Thank you for the advise.

>>>>>

>>>>> Connie

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[Guest guest]

When melatonin stopped working for our son, we found that giving it along with

L-Theanine or 5-HTP did the trick..Giving too much melatonin made him too groggy

in the morning, or he woke up absolutely alert and hyper at some unearthly hour

in the morning.

- Anu

>

> > I'm 200 lbs and 1mg works on me. It depends on the person. Start with 1mg

and go up or down from there.

> > TJ

> >

> > ________________________________

> > From: Peggy <diamond12345@...>

> >

> > Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 5:08:18 PM

> > Subject: [ ] Melatonin

> >

> >

> > how much melationin has anyone given a 75lb. child?

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

I'm guessing it was just not needed. Why would not enough give me such a wired,

negative reaction?

> > >

> > > Start on a lower dose. I'm 200 lbs and if I take 5mg it knocks me out.

Time release would be good if there is a problem waking throughout the night. If

it is just an issue of initially falling asleep, regular melatonin works fine.

> > > This is a natural hormone that is produced in the body and can be safely

used for as long as needed.

> > > TJ

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: hndnfd <dhdudley@>

> > >

> > > Sent: Thu, February 4, 2010 5:18:30 AM

> > > Subject: [ ] Melatonin

> > >

> > >  

> > > I read to try melatonin for a person not sleeping... up to 10mg. We have a

13 year old girl about 105 lbs. Would timed released melatonin be appropriate

for her? 10mgs? For how long would this be safe?

> > >

> > > Thank you for the advise.

> > >

> > > Connie

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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[Guest guest]

how much melatonin were you giving and what was his weight?

On Mar 13, 2010, at 5:48 AM, amum102999 wrote:

>

> When melatonin stopped working for our son, we found that giving it along with

L-Theanine or 5-HTP did the trick..Giving too much melatonin made him too groggy

in the morning, or he woke up absolutely alert and hyper at some unearthly hour

in the morning.

>

> - Anu

>

>

> >

> > > I'm 200 lbs and 1mg works on me. It depends on the person. Start with 1mg

and go up or down from there.

> > > TJ

> > >

> > > ________________________________

> > > From: Peggy <diamond12345@...>

> > >

> > > Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 5:08:18 PM

> > > Subject: [ ] Melatonin

> > >

> > >

> > > how much melationin has anyone given a 75lb. child?

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

Between .50 to 1 mg melatonin is all he can handle (we started off with .25mg,

which used to knock him out in 10 min or so 3 years back). He's 10 and weighs

close to 80lbs. We rotate half a cap of 5-HTP and L-Theanine along with it now

and it's working well.

- Anu

> > >

> > > > I'm 200 lbs and 1mg works on me. It depends on the person. Start with

1mg and go up or down from there.

> > > > TJ

> > > >

> > > > ________________________________

> > > > From: Peggy <diamond12345@>

> > > >

> > > > Sent: Fri, March 12, 2010 5:08:18 PM

> > > > Subject: [ ] Melatonin

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > how much melationin has anyone given a 75lb. child?

> > > >

> > > >

[Guest guest]

People do well on various doses of Melatonin. I do very well on .25mg Melatonin, 500 mg Inositol topped off by .25mg Lorazepam just before hitting the pillow. I sleep all night long. No groggy issues in the morning. This low dose Melatonin works for me, anything much higher makes me groggy. But others need more, it's all individual. But I did read somewhere that low dose melatonin can work for many. I buy 1mg tabs and cut it in fours.

[low dose naltrexone] melatonin

I've been on LDN for about 6 mos. and seem to be doing well.I do however have insomnia every night, but I do not thinkit is due to LDN. Lifes preoccupations give me insomnia nowand before I began with LDN (if my life is not worrying me,then I sleep fine).Is Melatonin (3mg) o.k. to take with LDN?Thanks,

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No problem with Melatonin (3mg) and LDN.

jdcornight wrote:

> I've been on LDN for about 6 mos. and seem to be doing well.

> I do however have insomnia every night, but I do not think

> it is due to LDN. Lifes preoccupations give me insomnia now

> and before I began with LDN (if my life is not worrying me,

> then I sleep fine).

> Is Melatonin (3mg) o.k. to take with LDN?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

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[Guest guest]

My holistic doctor started us on the Melatonin before I ever even heard of the

LDN. It is useful for almost everybody over 40, and is a natural substance made

in the body. We had the 3 mg size capsules and I said, " 3mg does not even faze

me. " She said, " they are not sleeping pills, but they help you get a natural

restful sleep. Up the dose by 3mg each night until you wake up groggy the next

morning and then back off one. " For my husband and myself, we woke up groggy at

12 mg, so backed off. You can buy them in a 10 mg size and we now take one of

those each night. Like I said, it does not knock you out like drugs do, but it

is a big help in staying asleep better and getting a good rest, naturally.

Rest assured, it works well,

Francie

LDN-for-MS.com My story

>

> Also, regardless of what it says on the bottle, you can take up to 15mg of

> melatonin for sleep. If by chance you wake up groggy after taking

> melatonin, just go outside and look up at the sun for a second or two and

> you will actually burn it out of your system.

[Guest guest]

My doc said never to go above 15 mg in one night.  But, ya, people can take way more than they think they can.  I take 15mg every night and definitely notice it when I don't take it.On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:01 PM, FrancieS <francie@...> wrote:

 

My holistic doctor started us on the Melatonin before I ever even heard of the LDN. It is useful for almost everybody over 40, and is a natural substance made in the body. We had the 3 mg size capsules and I said, " 3mg does not even faze me. " She said, " they are not sleeping pills, but they help you get a natural restful sleep. Up the dose by 3mg each night until you wake up groggy the next morning and then back off one. " For my husband and myself, we woke up groggy at 12 mg, so backed off. You can buy them in a 10 mg size and we now take one of those each night. Like I said, it does not knock you out like drugs do, but it is a big help in staying asleep better and getting a good rest, naturally.

Rest assured, it works well,

Francie

LDN-for-MS.com My story

>

> Also, regardless of what it says on the bottle, you can take up to 15mg of

> melatonin for sleep. If by chance you wake up groggy after taking

> melatonin, just go outside and look up at the sun for a second or two and

> you will actually burn it out of your system.