suggestions?

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From: Clare Metague

Top of my list is JUICING. Results are so immediate - very powerful healing tool.

====>Any particular combinations of juices you like or recommend?

In Health,

Clare

On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:15 AM, us wrote:

I've been making the bone-in chicken broth from the GAPS book and he really likes this but probably only eats a couple of bowls of this a week. I could try and get him to eat more, as it does seem to help.

Another tricky thing is that his blood work shows he's become sensitive to almonds now, and I was making his bread out of almond flour, per the GAPS protocol. He's no longer sensitive to wheat but I understand it's important to be grain free to heal the gut. I'm running out of options since he's sensitive to pecan and coconut.

On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Malewicz wrote:

Is he getting gelatin from broths? I heard from Dr. NCM that broth is not optional, that it is required because it has the building blocks needed to repair the gut. We've been on GAPS diet for 9 months and have seen improvements, but still have allergies. My son is 6.He does not drink broth at all. We recently purchased some Dr Jensen's gelatin, and have started adding this to some of his foods which hopefully will give him more building blocks to repair himself. He only gets a little broth when we sneak it into things. So hopefully this will help.

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My son's doctor (a Naturopath) did stool analysis to check for yeast but there's also a urine test that will check for yeast by-products.Symptoms of yeast may include craving desserts, sugar or refined carbohydrates (my son was actually climbing up on the kitchen counter looking for the sugar bowl), odorous gas, anxiety or hyperactive behavior, stools may be lighter in color and can float. My son had a lot of an anxiety about going to school or being in groups and also had trouble waiting for exciting things (holidays, birthday parties) but all of this went away after the Nystatin. It was really an astonishing shift in behavior.On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Head wrote:Is there a way besides a blood test to check for yeast? How do I know if I have too much yeast, I wonder? It is a common problem, istn it? From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of usSent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 3:50 PM Subject: Re: [ ] suggestions? It's tricky because the GAPS book states that the gut won't heal until the yeast is gone since it tunnels through the intestinal wall. I tried a number of natural ways to get rid of the yeast with my son's doctor but could never quite get rid of it. The Nystatin did wonders and it was after that course that we actually saw that he was beginning to absorb fats because the bumpy skin on his arms and legs resolved. Maybe since the yeast has only been gone since March that I need to re-set the clock for healing from that point.On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:08 AM, Head wrote: Doesn’t the nystatin contribute in a major way to gut problems? I thought I had read that somewhere. I believe there are some natural alternatives such as genitian violet to try first? Though, this may only be for thrush. I actually thought that the gaps book said that it takes 1-2 years to fully heal the gut. From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of usSent: Sunday, July 05, 2009 1:19 AM Subject: [ ] suggestions? I have had my son, 5 years old, on the GAPS diet for about 6 months as well as a food avoidance diet based on allergy/sensitivity testing for one year. After stool analysis showed a high level of yeast, he was on a 2 month course of Nystatin to get rid of the yeast in Feb/March of this year. A recent blood analysis in May shows that while numerous food sensitivities have healed, he now has a new ones, probably because I didn't rotate foods in his diet enough. Basically, his gut is still leaky. I'm doing all the recommended supplements with him - probiotics, cod liver oil, digestive enzymes.I'm curious what kind of time frames people are seeing for healing their guts because I'm feeling a bit frustrated. A friend of mine told me that the gut should be able to heal in about 3 months so I'm curious what could be holding him back?Any thoughts are appreciated. ==

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HI,

my son is also allergic to almonds. I make him nut milk (soaked and

with dates to sweeten a little) and bake with macadamia nuts, they are

wonderful. I have purchased from:

<http://www.livingtreecommunity.com/store2/product.asp?id=12 & catid=17>

good luck & happy healing. sue

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Wow – amazing isn’t it? Thanks for the info!

From:

[mailto: ] On

Behalf Of us

Sent: Monday, July 06, 2009 10:24 AM

Subject: Re: [ ] suggestions?

My son's doctor (a Naturopath) did stool analysis to check for yeast but

there's also a urine test that will check for yeast by-products.

Symptoms of yeast may include craving

desserts, sugar or refined carbohydrates (my son was actually climbing up on the kitchen counter looking for the sugar bowl),

odorous gas, anxiety or hyperactive behavior, stools may be lighter in color

and can float. My son had a lot of an anxiety about going to school or

being in groups and also had trouble waiting for exciting things (holidays,

birthday parties) but all of this went away after the Nystatin. It was

really an astonishing shift in behavior.

On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:52 PM, Head wrote:

Is there a way

besides a blood test to check for yeast? How do I know if I have too much

yeast, I wonder? It is a common problem, istn it?

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of us

Sent: Sunday, July 05,

2009 3:50 PM

Subject: Re:

[ ] suggestions?

It's tricky because the GAPS book states that the gut won't heal

until the yeast is gone since it tunnels through the intestinal wall. I

tried a number of natural ways to get rid of the yeast with my son's doctor but

could never quite get rid of it. The Nystatin did wonders and it was

after that course that we actually saw that he was beginning to absorb fats

because the bumpy skin on his arms and legs resolved. Maybe since the

yeast has only been gone since March that I need to re-set the clock for

healing from that point.

On Jul 5, 2009, at 10:08 AM,

Head wrote:

Doesn’t the nystatin contribute in a

major way to gut problems? I thought I had read that somewhere. I believe there

are some natural alternatives such as genitian violet to try first? Though,

this may only be for thrush.

I actually thought that the gaps book

said that it takes 1-2 years to fully heal the gut.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of us

Sent: Sunday, July 05,

2009 1:19 AM

Subject: [ ]

suggestions?

I have had my son, 5 years old, on the GAPS diet for about 6

months as

well as a food avoidance diet based on allergy/sensitivity testing for

one year. After stool analysis showed a high level of yeast, he was

on a 2 month course of Nystatin to get rid of the yeast in Feb/March

of this year. A recent blood analysis in May shows that while

numerous food sensitivities have healed, he now has a new ones,

probably because I didn't rotate foods in his diet enough. Basically,

his gut is still leaky. I'm doing all the recommended supplements

with him - probiotics, cod liver oil, digestive enzymes.

I'm curious what kind of time frames people are seeing for healing

their guts because I'm feeling a bit frustrated. A friend of mine

told me that the gut should be able to heal in about 3 months so I'm

curious what could be holding him back?

Any thoughts are appreciated.

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I use a Breville Juice Fountain. They have different models. Mine is very basic and cost around $130. I love it. It's not hugh, is easy to clean, looks sharp and most importantly does a great job. Bought it on Amazon. Check the reviews.I follow the juice suggestions in the Gaps book and I also really like Steve Meyerowitz's Power Juices Super Drinks book. His book is very comprehensive and I'm especially fond of the section that discusses what fruit/vegetable helps specific ailments.The first time I made juice my daughter and I drank it around 3:00 in the afternoon and we both had so much energy we couldn't sleep that night. Also, be careful not to use too much red beet as it's hard on the stomach. Make the first drink very mild; celery, cabbage and apples. Apples and carrots can be too sweet for us, but it's well received for many. Juice is a powerful healing tool, my daughter's ND says to start slow and I agree, I wouldn't do it everyday. I aim for every other day and vary the type of juice.It's truly amazing. The movie The Beautiful Truth was my inspiration to do it. In health,ClareOn Jul 5, 2009, at 6:38 PM, us wrote: Clare, Could you please tell me more about juicing? It is also recommended in the GAPS diet but I haven't yet pursued this. Can you recommend a juicer? And a book on juicing? What juices do you find healing?Thanks.On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Clare Metague wrote:This is why I gave up on the Gaps diet. Three months after starting the diet, my daughter's blood work showed antibodies reacting to many of the Gaps diet foods; almonds, cashews, coconut . . . damm! Her ND wasn't surprised and said that's why he prefers a rotating diet and thinks the Gaps diet still needs fine tuning.So we've made adjustments based on the realization that we are all so unique and one size doesn't fit all. Having such a restrictive diet was depressing my daughter and stressing the hell out of me - not a good thing. We kept on with bone broth. Aside from weekly soup dinners. I add it to any dishes that needs a little liquid. Store bought (unsweetened) Kefir, and yogurt doesn't bother her. Brown rice (cooked in bone broth) and red potatoes (in moderation) don't seem to bother her as well. Enzymes, probiotics and Chinese herbal teas are also consumed.Top of my list is JUICING. Results are so immediate - very powerful healing tool.In Health,ClareOn Jul 5, 2009, at 8:15 AM, us wrote:I've been making the bone-in chicken broth from the GAPS book and he really likes this but probably only eats a couple of bowls of this a week. I could try and get him to eat more, as it does seem to help. Another tricky thing is that his blood work shows he's become sensitive to almonds now, and I was making his bread out of almond flour, per the GAPS protocol. He's no longer sensitive to wheat but I understand it's important to be grain free to heal the gut. I'm running out of options since he's sensitive to pecan and coconut. On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Malewicz wrote:Is he getting gelatin from broths? I heard from Dr. NCM that broth is not optional, that it is required because it has the building blocks needed to repair the gut. We've been on GAPS diet for 9 months and have seen improvements, but still have allergies. My son is 6.He does not drink broth at all. We recently purchased some Dr Jensen's gelatin, and have started adding this to some of his foods which hopefully will give him more building blocks to repair himself. He only gets a little broth when we sneak it into things. So hopefully this will help.==

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Thank you!

From:

[mailto: ] On Behalf Of Clare Metague

Sent: Friday, July 10, 2009 1:21 AM

; us

Subject: Re: [ ] Re:suggestions?

I use a Breville Juice Fountain. They have different models. Mine is very

basic and cost around $130. I love it. It's not hugh, is easy to clean, looks

sharp and most importantly does a great job. Bought it on Amazon. Check the

reviews.

I follow the juice

suggestions in the Gaps book and I also really like Steve Meyerowitz's Power Juices Super Drinks book. His

book is very comprehensive and I'm especially fond of the section that discusses what fruit/vegetable helps specific ailments.

The first time I made juice

my daughter and I drank it around 3:00 in the afternoon and we both had so much energy we couldn't sleep that night. Also, be careful not to use too much red beet as it's hard on the stomach. Make the first drink very mild; celery, cabbage and apples. Apples

and carrots can be too sweet for us, but it's well received for many. Juice is

a powerful healing tool, my daughter's ND says to start slow and I agree, I

wouldn't do it everyday. I aim for every other day and vary the type of juice.

It's truly amazing. The movie The Beautiful Truth was my

inspiration to do it.

In health,

Clare

On Jul 5, 2009, at 6:38 PM, us wrote:

Clare,

Could you please tell me more about juicing? It is

also recommended in the GAPS diet but I haven't yet pursued this. Can you

recommend a juicer? And a book on juicing? What juices do you find

healing?

Thanks.

On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Clare Metague wrote:

This is why I gave up on the Gaps diet. Three months after

starting the diet, my daughter's blood work showed antibodies reacting to many

of the Gaps diet foods; almonds, cashews, coconut . . . damm! Her ND wasn't

surprised and said that's why he prefers a rotating diet and thinks the Gaps

diet still needs fine tuning.

So we've made

adjustments based on the realization that we are all so unique and one size

doesn't fit all. Having such a restrictive diet was depressing my daughter and

stressing the hell out of me - not a good thing.

We kept on with bone

broth. Aside from weekly soup dinners. I add it

to any dishes that needs a little liquid. Store bought (unsweetened) Kefir, and

yogurt doesn't bother her. Brown rice (cooked in bone broth) and red potatoes

(in moderation) don't seem to bother her as well. Enzymes, probiotics and

Chinese herbal teas are also consumed.

Top of my list is JUICING.

Results are so immediate - very powerful healing tool.

In Health,

Clare

On Jul 5, 2009, at 8:15 AM,

us wrote:

I've been making the bone-in chicken broth from the GAPS book and

he really likes this but probably only eats a couple of bowls of this a week.

I could try and get him to eat more, as it does seem to help.

Another tricky thing is that

his blood work shows he's become sensitive to almonds now, and I was making his

bread out of almond flour, per the GAPS protocol. He's no longer

sensitive to wheat but I understand it's important to be grain free to heal the

gut. I'm running out of options since he's sensitive to pecan and

coconut.

On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:32 AM,

Malewicz wrote:

Is he getting gelatin from broths? I heard from Dr. NCM that broth

is

not optional, that it is required because it has the building blocks

needed to repair the gut. We've been on GAPS diet for 9 months and

have seen improvements, but still have allergies. My son is 6.He does

not drink broth at all. We recently purchased some Dr Jensen's

gelatin, and have started adding this to some of his foods which

hopefully will give him more building blocks to repair himself. He

only gets a little broth when we sneak it into things. So hopefully

this will help.

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thanks for the juicing information, clare! I've really been wanting to try this with my son.On Jul 9, 2009, at 10:20 PM, Clare Metague wrote:I use a Breville Juice Fountain. They have different models. Mine is very basic and cost around $130. I love it. It's not hugh, is easy to clean, looks sharp and most importantly does a great job. Bought it on Amazon. Check the reviews.I follow the juice suggestions in the Gaps book and I also really like Steve Meyerowitz's Power Juices Super Drinks book. His book is very comprehensive and I'm especially fond of the section that discusses what fruit/vegetable helps specific ailments.The first time I made juice my daughter and I drank it around 3:00 in the afternoon and we both had so much energy we couldn't sleep that night. Also, be careful not to use too much red beet as it's hard on the stomach. Make the first drink very mild; celery, cabbage and apples. Apples and carrots can be too sweet for us, but it's well received for many. Juice is a powerful healing tool, my daughter's ND says to start slow and I agree, I wouldn't do it everyday. I aim for every other day and vary the type of juice.It's truly amazing. The movie The Beautiful Truth was my inspiration to do it. In health,ClareOn Jul 5, 2009, at 6:38 PM, us wrote:Clare, Could you please tell me more about juicing? It is also recommended in the GAPS diet but I haven't yet pursued this. Can you recommend a juicer? And a bo ok on juicing? What juices do you find healing?Thanks.On Jul 5, 2009, at 5:25 PM, Clare Metague wrote:This is why I gave up on the Gaps diet. Three months after starting the diet, my daughter's blood work showed antibodies reacting to many of the Gaps diet foods; almonds, cashews, coconut . . . damm! Her ND wasn't surprised and said that's why he prefers a rotating diet and thinks the Gaps diet still needs fine tuning.So we've made adjustments based on the realization that we are all so unique and one size doesn't fit all. Having such a restrictive diet was depressing my daughter and stressing the hell out of me - not a good thing. We kept on with bone broth. Aside from weekly soup dinners. I add it to any dishes that needs a little liquid. Store bought (unsweetened) Kefir, and yogurt doesn't bother her. Brown rice (cooked in bone broth) and red potatoes (in moderation) don't seem to bother her as well. Enzymes, probiotics and Chinese herbal teas are also consumed.Top of my list is JUICING. Results are so immediate - very powerful healing tool.In Health,ClareOn Jul 5, 2009, at 8:15 AM, us wrote:I've been making the bone-in chicken broth from the GAPS book and he really likes this but probably only eats a couple of bowls of this a w eek. I could try and get him to eat more, as it does seem to help. Another tricky thing is that his blood work shows he's become sensitive to almonds now, and I was making his bread out of almond flour, per the GAPS protocol. He's no longer sensitive to wheat but I understand it's important to be grain free to heal the gut. I'm running out of options since he's sensitive to pecan and coconut. On Jul 5, 2009, at 7:32 AM, Malewicz wrote:Is he getting gelatin from broths? I heard from Dr. NCM that broth is not optional, that it is required because it has the building blocks needed to repair the gut. We've been on GAPS diet for 9 months and have seen improvements, but still have allergies. My son is 6.He does not drink broth at all. We recently purchased some Dr Jensen's gelatin, and have started adding this to some of his foods which hopefully will give him more building blocks to repair himself. He only gets a little broth when we sneak it into things. So hopefully this will help.===

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Jeanette,

It is rare for some of the rheumys to work a kid in that quick but ours does if

needed. Some of the rheumys are just so overwhelmed. I think you must have one

of the good ones that will listen to mom and care for the kiddo. Sorry she is

suffering so now but so glad you were all able to make the trip. I am sure there

are memories that will last a life time. Maybe call and ask if you can bump the

steroids back up til you see her. It sounds like you are doing all the right

things for her and I have no other suggestions. Not sure what your weather is

like there, ours has been such a roller coaster that it has played havoc on my

arthritis actually more then Jaye's. Although, her struggle lately has

been the exhaustion again, but nearly no pain so we are doing ok. I hope you

can enjoy the weekend, if she can just stay down and rest that may be the best

thing for her.

Veri & Jaye 17 poly

Suggestions?

Hi everyone. I just wanted to give an update on Amelia, and see if anyone has

any other ideas on controlling pain. We did return from our trip to D.C. three

days ago, and it went pretty well. She was mainly in her wheelchair because of

the severe pain in in her knees. But she was such a trooper, and the kids in her

class were great. We were very apprehensive, as she had some really bad days

prior to the trip. At the visit with the rheumatologist several days before, she

had swelling in her knee, ankle and several fingers. She wanted to keep her on

Sulindac and wean the steroids very slowly. However, over the last several days,

she has had more pain than ever, and even in some new joints not affected

before. I don't think it is the overexertion of the trip, as she was in the

wheelchai most of the time. We were not supposed to see her doctor for quite a

while, but she is going to fit us in next week, which I hear is very rare for a

pediatric rheumy. I don't k now what else to do for her pain. She is taking her

meds, plus Tylenol intermittently, warm baths, paraffin for her hands and

Voltaren gel. She is also extremely fatigued. Sorry this is so long, but any

suggestions would help. We are new to all of this, and it is killing us to see

her in so much pain.

Thanks,

Jeanette

[Guest guest]

Sulindac was not a great Nsaid for either of my children. Maybe he could change

that over the phone? Veri is right, sounds like she needs those steroids right

now. I am glad they are working her in.

I am trying to think of anything else, but am coming up with very little.

Distraction with movies and a quiet friend may help. My daughter doesn't like

bubbly friends when she is sick and fatigued, but likes a quiet friend who'll

watch a movie and just talk.

Do you have access to a hot tub, and/or a maybe an indoor pool? The hot tub is

soothing. The pool is fun and relaxing. Our local YMCA has been a blessing.

It is one of the worst feelings in the world, to have your child in pain and not

be able to do a thing about it. Just try to remember to take care of yourself a

little bit and get healthy stress relief. You don't need to get sick, too.

Audra

14, poly 07

Peyton 13, poly 08

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> Hi everyone. I just wanted to give an update on Amelia, and see if anyone has

any other ideas on controlling pain. We did return from our trip to D.C. three

days ago, and it went pretty well. She was mainly in her wheelchair because of

the severe pain in in her knees. But she was such a trooper, and the kids in

her class were great. We were very apprehensive, as she had some really bad

days prior to the trip. At the visit with the rheumatologist several days

before, she had swelling in her knee, ankle and several fingers. She wanted to

keep her on Sulindac and wean the steroids very slowly. However, over the last

several days, she has had more pain than ever, and even in some new joints not

affected before. I don't think it is the overexertion of the trip, as she was in

the wheelchai most of the time. We were not supposed to see her doctor for

quite a while, but she is going to fit us in next week, which I hear is very

rare for a pediatric rheumy. I don't know what else to do for her pain. She is

taking her meds, plus Tylenol intermittently, warm baths, paraffin for her hands

and Voltaren gel. She is also extremely fatigued. Sorry this is so long, but

any suggestions would help. We are new to all of this, and it is killing us to

see her in so much pain.

> Thanks,

> Jeanette

>