Re: How much proof do I need

[Guest guest]

You have the scientific tests for the proof, now you need to get the blood work specifically testing for mold. That should suffice to prove our illness relation to mold. Enough to file a claim.

Carroll-Bower

dmurph3084 <dmurph3084@...> wrote: How do you prove sick building syndrome? I know I needed to be sure that it was the molds from the building I work in, that were making me sick. There are 4 people who work on the side of the building where it is contaminated with mold. I had not been on the job long (maybe 2 weeks and that was around May of 2001) when I noticed this strong musty odor. I looked up at the ceiling and noticed the damage tiles and water spots. Human Resources Manager came over and discovered the problem too, so he took pictures. It was a problem started by the HVAC air conditioning ducts. *I have copies of these pictures. E-mails were sent by me to the Human Resource Manager, City Manager & others regarding this situation, so they were aware. *I kept these e-mails and their promises to fix it, but to this date never have. An air quality control company came in 2 different times to run tests. Both tests concludes there are 3 types of mold - aspergillus, penicillium & cladosporum (heavy contents in each area). *I have obtained copies of these tests reports, along with comments of how unsafe this mold is. Since I was ill with severe allergy problems, headaches, nausea, fatigue, plus the fact that my arms were broke out and parts of neck, I went to my general physician and showed her the mold report. She would not conclude that it was the mold since she was not a specialist, but definately agreed that I was having a high allergic reaction to something. Next step was the Allergen Specialist. He ran tests, which included tests for reactions to different molds. After seeing the breakout of my arms and my condition, advised me that I do not need to be in this building. *Took picture of my arms, now left with scars. *Doctor has agreed to write me a letter stating I am highly allergic to these molds that were found in our building. I applied for workman's comp and was denied twice. I have been keeping in touch with the two other people that are sick with similar symptoms and they are ready to start a workman's comp claim and sue if necessary. Found out today that arrangements that had been made to move us out into a trailer, has now been rejected.I know what I will end up having to do--find another job. All of us that have been affected are sticking together on this problem. If I leave this job, everyone will understand why. FAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

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Sick building syndrome as you will soon know, if you don't already, is a

hotly contested concept. Generally, if 20% (sometimes 25%) of building

occupants experience symptoms during occupancy which subside when away, the

building is thought to be sick. In some instances however, the problem is in

an isolated building section and only a few are affected. Management is then

much more reluctant to accept such a diagnosis.

Total mold is generally expected to be 1/3 or less the level of outdoor

mold at the same time, with no individual species of mold being measured at

a level higher than outside. Any deviation suggests amplification within the

building. Some health specialist think this is sufficient for a sick

building classification, some don't. Unfortunately, as much as many people

are realizing that sufficient exposure to any mold can initiate allergic

responses in some people, even those with no previous allergy problems, this

is not universally accepted by the medical or legal communities, and

uncaring employers continue to find another excuse for abusing employees.

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From: " dmurph3084 " <dmurph3084@...>

Reply-

Subject: [] How much proof do I need

Date: Mon, 08 Apr 2002 19:51:35 -0000

How do you prove sick building syndrome?

I know I needed to be sure that it was the molds from the building

I work in, that were making me sick. There are 4 people who work on

the side of the building where it is contaminated with mold. I had

not been on the job long (maybe 2 weeks and that was around May of

2001) when I noticed this strong musty odor. I looked up at the

ceiling and noticed the damage tiles and water spots. Human

Resources Manager came over and discovered the problem too, so he

took pictures. It was a problem started by the HVAC air conditioning

ducts. *I have copies of these pictures. E-mails were sent by me

to the Human Resource Manager, City Manager & others regarding this

situation, so they were aware. *I kept these e-mails and their

promises to fix it, but to this date never have. An air quality

control company came in 2 different times to run tests. Both tests

concludes there are 3 types of mold - aspergillus, penicillium &

cladosporum (heavy contents in each area).

*I have obtained copies of these tests reports, along with comments

of how unsafe this mold is.

Since I was ill with severe allergy problems, headaches, nausea,

fatigue, plus the fact that my arms were broke out and parts of neck,

I went to my general physician and showed her the mold report. She

would not conclude that it was the mold since she was not a

specialist, but definately agreed that I was having a high allergic

reaction to something. Next step was the Allergen Specialist. He ran

tests, which included tests for reactions to different molds. After

seeing the breakout of my arms and my condition, advised me that I do

not need to be in this building. *Took picture of my arms, now left

with scars. *Doctor has agreed to write me a letter stating I am

highly allergic to these molds that were found in our building. I

applied for workman's comp and was denied twice.

I have been keeping in touch with the two other people that are

sick with similar symptoms and they are ready to start a workman's

comp claim and sue if necessary. Found out today that arrangements

that had been made to move us out into a trailer, has now been

rejected.

I know what I will end up having to do--find another job.

All of us that have been affected are sticking together on this

problem. If I leave this job, everyone will understand why.

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[Guest guest]

,

Thank you for telling me about the blood test specifically testing

for mold. I had not heard about this test until you mentioned it in

your e-mail to me. I went to the doctor and had the blood work done

today. I heard that the results would take about 1 week. Still

feeling extremely fatigued and weak. I have two more inhalers since I

had developed asthma a few months ago and I am also on antibiotics. I

also received a chest x-ray since I always feel a tightness in my

chest.

Just wanted you to know that I appreciated your suggestion.

Thanks,

Debbie

How do you prove sick

building syndrome?

> I know I needed to be sure that it was the molds from the building

> I work in, that were making me sick. There are 4 people who work

on

> the side of the building where it is contaminated with mold. I had

> not been on the job long (maybe 2 weeks and that was around May of

> 2001) when I noticed this strong musty odor. I looked up at the

> ceiling and noticed the damage tiles and water spots. Human

> Resources Manager came over and discovered the problem too, so he

> took pictures. It was a problem started by the HVAC air

conditioning

> ducts. *I have copies of these pictures. E-mails were sent by me

> to the Human Resource Manager, City Manager & others regarding

this

> situation, so they were aware. *I kept these e-mails and their

> promises to fix it, but to this date never have. An air quality

> control company came in 2 different times to run tests. Both tests

> concludes there are 3 types of mold - aspergillus, penicillium &

> cladosporum (heavy contents in each area).

> *I have obtained copies of these tests reports, along with comments

> of how unsafe this mold is.

> Since I was ill with severe allergy problems, headaches, nausea,

> fatigue, plus the fact that my arms were broke out and parts of

neck,

> I went to my general physician and showed her the mold report. She

> would not conclude that it was the mold since she was not a

> specialist, but definately agreed that I was having a high allergic

> reaction to something. Next step was the Allergen Specialist. He

ran

> tests, which included tests for reactions to different molds.

After

> seeing the breakout of my arms and my condition, advised me that I

do

> not need to be in this building. *Took picture of my arms, now left

> with scars. *Doctor has agreed to write me a letter stating I am

> highly allergic to these molds that were found in our building. I

> applied for workman's comp and was denied twice.

> I have been keeping in touch with the two other people that are

> sick with similar symptoms and they are ready to start a workman's

> comp claim and sue if necessary. Found out today that arrangements

> that had been made to move us out into a trailer, has now been

> rejected.

> I know what I will end up having to do--find another job.

> All of us that have been affected are sticking together on this

> problem. If I leave this job, everyone will understand why.

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Debbie,

Glad you got your blood test done for mold. I so hope

it helps, don't be surprised if it comes back

positive. If it doesn't their are specific allergy

tests to for penicillium, cladisporidium, and many

other mold antigens. I suspect stachybotrus with your

symptoms.

Glad I could help.

--- dmurph3084 <dmurph3084@...> wrote:

> ,

>

> Thank you for telling me about the blood test

> specifically testing

> for mold. I had not heard about this test until you

> mentioned it in

> your e-mail to me. I went to the doctor and had the

> blood work done

> today. I heard that the results would take about 1

> week. Still

> feeling extremely fatigued and weak. I have two more

> inhalers since I

> had developed asthma a few months ago and I am also

> on antibiotics. I

> also received a chest x-ray since I always feel a

> tightness in my

> chest.

>

> Just wanted you to know that I appreciated your

> suggestion.

> Thanks,

> Debbie

>

> How do you

> prove sick

> building syndrome?

> > I know I needed to be sure that it was the molds

> from the building

> > I work in, that were making me sick. There are 4

> people who work

> on

> > the side of the building where it is contaminated

> with mold. I had

> > not been on the job long (maybe 2 weeks and that

> was around May of

> > 2001) when I noticed this strong musty odor. I

> looked up at the

> > ceiling and noticed the damage tiles and water

> spots. Human

> > Resources Manager came over and discovered the

> problem too, so he

> > took pictures. It was a problem started by the

> HVAC air

> conditioning

> > ducts. *I have copies of these pictures.

> E-mails were sent by me

> > to the Human Resource Manager, City Manager &

> others regarding

> this

> > situation, so they were aware. *I kept these

> e-mails and their

> > promises to fix it, but to this date never have.

> An air quality

> > control company came in 2 different times to run

> tests. Both tests

> > concludes there are 3 types of mold - aspergillus,

> penicillium &

> > cladosporum (heavy contents in each area).

> > *I have obtained copies of these tests reports,

> along with comments

> > of how unsafe this mold is.

> > Since I was ill with severe allergy problems,

> headaches, nausea,

> > fatigue, plus the fact that my arms were broke out

> and parts of

> neck,

> > I went to my general physician and showed her the

> mold report. She

> > would not conclude that it was the mold since she

> was not a

> > specialist, but definately agreed that I was

> having a high allergic

> > reaction to something. Next step was the Allergen

> Specialist. He

> ran

> > tests, which included tests for reactions to

> different molds.

> After

> > seeing the breakout of my arms and my condition,

> advised me that I

> do

> > not need to be in this building. *Took picture of

> my arms, now left

> > with scars. *Doctor has agreed to write me a

> letter stating I am

> > highly allergic to these molds that were found in

> our building. I

> > applied for workman's comp and was denied twice.

> > I have been keeping in touch with the two other

> people that are

> > sick with similar symptoms and they are ready to

> start a workman's

> > comp claim and sue if necessary. Found out today

> that arrangements

> > that had been made to move us out into a trailer,

> has now been

> > rejected.

> > I know what I will end up having to do--find

> another job.

> > All of us that have been affected are sticking

> together on this

> > problem. If I leave this job, everyone will

> understand why.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >