Re: Social Skills training???

[Guest guest]

personally a waste of money. if the child would learn by watchild the tv, he would learn on the playground. My 13 yo diagnosed son still is having inappropriate social problems.... but we are working on it. BaerPresidentThe Asperger Child Incwww.TheAspergerChild.org

From: ahockema2001 <ahockema@...> Sent: Thu, September 16, 2010 7:56:43 AMSubject: ( ) Social Skills training???

I just started homeschooling my 10 yo son this year. He does not have an official diagnosis because my husband will not support me getting one. He clearly is AS from all the research I have read. So I am just trying to treat it as such despite not having the support of a medical diagnosis and everything that comes with it. It is incredibly hard. Everyone thinks (my DH included)--that he just needs tougher discipline--that if I was more strict at home he would behave better publicly. It honestly drives me crazy!! We do have rules--but he is a very dominant personality as well and tries to run the show. He could literally require almost constant discipline when siblings are around so I have relaxed quite a bit for my own sanity. Our main issue is when he gets in large groups of kids--he turns into a "2 yo" IMO! I can have great conversations with him one on one--but the second we get in public he is picking at other kids--trying to play

active games at inappropriate times. Always spewing facts about this or that. Has anyone had really great success with social skills training--and if so what avenue? Are the CD's good from Model Me kids or are these avenues a waste of time and money?????Thanks for all your great support!Amy, Indiana

[Guest guest]

My son had some success with Winner's Superflex curriculum. He liked the cartoon characters and was able to see how some of his behaviors fit into the curriculum. I'd highly recommend it.Sent via BlackBerry by AT&TFrom: "ahockema2001" <ahockema@...>Sender: Date: Thu, 16 Sep 2010 11:56:43 -0000< >Reply Subject: ( ) Social Skills training??? I just started homeschooling my 10 yo son this year. He does not have an official diagnosis because my husband will not support me getting one. He clearly is AS from all the research I have read. So I am just trying to treat it as such despite not having the support of a medical diagnosis and everything that comes with it. It is incredibly hard. Everyone thinks (my DH included)--that he just needs tougher discipline--that if I was more strict at home he would behave better publicly. It honestly drives me crazy!! We do have rules--but he is a very dominant personality as well and tries to run the show. He could literally require almost constant discipline when siblings are around so I have relaxed quite a bit for my own sanity. Our main issue is when he gets in large groups of kids--he turns into a " 2 yo " IMO! I can have great conversations with him one on one--but the second we get in public he is picking at other kids--trying to play active games at inappropriate times. Always spewing facts about this or that. Has anyone had really great success with social skills training--and if so what avenue? Are the CD's good from Model Me kids or are these avenues a waste of time and money?????Thanks for all your great support!Amy, Indiana

[Guest guest]

What I noticed is that AS kids that are very passive and

compliant with their parents do well with some social

skill training alone.

If your son won't listen to you in public settings then this

area has to be addressed first. These kids may be looked as

defiant but it comes from being so ridgid and inflexible

they want what they want.

Kids like this need a token system set up. They have to

earn there priveleges through good behavior.

It is not so much strict as structured and consistent.

He will not like this changes likely.

If he can't control himself in public you can rehearse

with him (have him earn a privelege for doing this)

behaviors. And then expose him to social situations

in small doses.

It is exhausting how long all these takes to shape, but

punishing and yelling gets nowhere fast.

best of luck,

Pam

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> I just started homeschooling my 10 yo son this year. He does not have an

official diagnosis because my husband will not support me getting one. He

clearly is AS from all the research I have read. So I am just trying to treat

it as such despite not having the support of a medical diagnosis and everything

that comes with it. It is incredibly hard. Everyone thinks (my DH

included)--that he just needs tougher discipline--that if I was more strict at

home he would behave better publicly.

> It honestly drives me crazy!! We do have rules--but he is a very dominant

personality as well and tries to run the show. He could literally require

almost constant discipline when siblings are around so I have relaxed quite a

bit for my own sanity.

>

> Our main issue is when he gets in large groups of kids--he turns into a " 2 yo "

IMO! I can have great conversations with him one on one--but the second we get

in public he is picking at other kids--trying to play active games at

inappropriate times. Always spewing facts about this or that. Has anyone had

really great success with social skills training--and if so what avenue? Are

the CD's good from Model Me kids or are these avenues a waste of time and

money?????

>

> Thanks for all your great support!

> Amy, Indiana

>

[Guest guest]

We love model me kids, they are definitely worth it! My son is only six so we

only have " time for a playdate " but from that video, my son went from giggling

in kids' faces to actually going up to them and saying " Hi, my name is Noah, do

you want to play? " . I was hugely impressed. He also now asks his guests what

they want to play when they come over. He still tends to be hugely immature and

tends to do better with four year olds than he does with six year olds, but I

don't think there is much we can do about that. We homeschool as well, and it

isn't hard to integrate social skills practice into our day. We do a lot of

modelling and practicing on siblings.

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> I just started homeschooling my 10 yo son this year. He does not have an

official diagnosis because my husband will not support me getting one. He

clearly is AS from all the research I have read. So I am just trying to treat

it as such despite not having the support of a medical diagnosis and everything

that comes with it. It is incredibly hard. Everyone thinks (my DH

included)--that he just needs tougher discipline--that if I was more strict at

home he would behave better publicly.

> It honestly drives me crazy!! We do have rules--but he is a very dominant

personality as well and tries to run the show. He could literally require

almost constant discipline when siblings are around so I have relaxed quite a

bit for my own sanity.

>

> Our main issue is when he gets in large groups of kids--he turns into a " 2 yo "

IMO! I can have great conversations with him one on one--but the second we get

in public he is picking at other kids--trying to play active games at

inappropriate times. Always spewing facts about this or that. Has anyone had

really great success with social skills training--and if so what avenue? Are

the CD's good from Model Me kids or are these avenues a waste of time and

money?????

>

> Thanks for all your great support!

> Amy, Indiana

>

[Guest guest]

I don't agree. These kids can have a lot of trouble generalizing what they learn which is not the same thing as not learning. For instance, my ds can watch or read about social skills and get it. He can give you all the right answers. But when it comes to doing - it's another story. Therefore, part of his plan was always to incorporate generalizing into his program. Watching video's, for some kids, can remove a lot of anxiety as well. When they are "in the moment", they can't focus or remember what to do or notice things vs. watching it on a video.

But I think my main point is that you can't just drop them off at a social skill group or pop in a DVD for the answer. They often need that plus a variety of other supports to practice the skills and generalize the lessons.

Roxanna

"I

predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent the government from wasting the labors of the people under the pretense of taking care of them." - Jefferson

( ) Social Skills training???

I just started homeschooling my 10 yo son this year. He does not have an official diagnosis because my husband will not support me getting one. He clearly is AS from all the research I have read. So I am just trying to treat it as such despite not having the support of a medical diagnosis and everything that comes with it. It is incredibly hard. Everyone thinks (my DH included)--that he just needs tougher discipline--that if I was more strict at home he would behave better publicly.

It honestly drives me crazy!! We do have rules--but he is a very dominant personality as well and tries to run the show. He could literally require almost constant discipline when siblings are around so I have relaxed quite a bit for my own sanity.

Our main issue is when he gets in large groups of kids--he turns into a "2 yo" IMO! I can have great conversations with him one on one--but the second we get in public he is picking at other kids--trying to play

active games at inappropriate times. Always spewing facts about this or that. Has anyone had really great success with social skills training--and if so what avenue? Are the CD's good from Model Me kids or are these avenues a waste of time and money?????

Thanks for all your great support!

Amy, Indiana