Re: BM question!

[Guest guest]

Not a silly question!

A very important question, indeed.

http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/transition.html (scroll down for

the Bristol Stool Chart)

My stools used to be typically type 2 and 3. Sometimes 1.

When I started GAPS, I had diarrhea (type 7) for about a week or so.

After that, I started having type 4. Now I have type 4 or type 5 (I go

1-2 times per day). I'm also amazed at how small the diameter is. They

used to be much bigger!

I heard the author of this book speak (from the last WAPF conference)

-- he said your stools should be no larger than a nickel, preferably

the size of a dime.

Ann Marie

On May 18, 2008, at 7:58 PM, rumkat74 wrote:

> Hi group!

>

> It seems like a silly question, but I was wondering what healthy

> stools are. Color, texture, odor, etc. I've been paying more attention

> to them lately, and I realized I don't know what normal is! Are there

> any sites with good info? (Pictures?)

[Guest guest]

Hi Ann Marie,

I can't recall whether you did the GAPS diet with the slow introduction of

foods per SCD. Can you please refresh my memory with how you are

proceeding?

Thanks,

Jane

On Sun, 18 May 2008, inasnit@... wrote:

> Not a silly question!

>

> A very important question, indeed.

>

> http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/transition.html (scroll down for

> the Bristol Stool Chart)

>

> My stools used to be typically type 2 and 3. Sometimes 1.

>

> When I started GAPS, I had diarrhea (type 7) for about a week or so.

> After that, I started having type 4. Now I have type 4 or type 5 (I go

> 1-2 times per day). I'm also amazed at how small the diameter is. They

> used to be much bigger!

>

> I heard the author of this book speak (from the last WAPF conference)

> -- he said your stools should be no larger than a nickel, preferably

> the size of a dime.

>

> Ann Marie

>

>

> On May 18, 2008, at 7:58 PM, rumkat74 wrote:

>

>> Hi group!

>>

>> It seems like a silly question, but I was wondering what healthy

>> stools are. Color, texture, odor, etc. I've been paying more attention

>> to them lately, and I realized I don't know what normal is! Are there

>> any sites with good info? (Pictures?)

>

>

>

> ------------------------------------

>

>

[Guest guest]

Thank you for giving us this Fiber Menace website! From reading the

info on the page that comes up first, I am wondering if the advice

in a discussion which followed my post of a few weeks ago ( " Enema

Dependent " ) about taking magnesium might not be what I should

follow, since the website author is down on Milk of Magnesia and

Epsom Salt.

B/c I've had chronic constipation forever (even had inguinal hernia

surgery at age 23, twenty-five years ago! And a colonoscopy b/c of

stomach pain a few years ago revealed internal hemorrhoids), I think

I'm going to track down this book and try out this author's stuff.

I hope it's not too expensive. I'm also sending the info to my 78

y.o. mother, who also is a lifetime constipation sufferer. And to

my 18 yo son, who had encopresis until age 11, and who, since then,

won't say anything about his stools except that " they're fine " , even

though his tummy was hurting from gas so badly a few months ago that

we took him to a gastroenterologist.

Didn't I read somewhere in here that one can actually grind up milk

kefir grains to get a great source of probiotics? I can't find

anyone else to give grains to, and they are just piling up in our

frig. I hate to throw them away, b/c they are so precious. Maybe

these could replace paying for probiotics for our less affected

family members and myself.

in TN

>

> Not a silly question!

>

> A very important question, indeed.

>

> http://www.fibermenace.com/gutsense/transition.html (scroll down

for

> the Bristol Stool Chart)

>

[Guest guest]

This is a PS to the post I just posted! Upon further reading of the

Gut Sense (Fiber Menace book) website Ann Marie gave us, I read that

the colon fixer-upper stuff you're supposed to take is a blend of

magnesium, calcium, and absorbic acids, so maybe the magnesium

suggestion I was asking about isn't so off after all. Here's the

info about the stuff mentioned on the website:

Hydro-C Colonic Moisturizer

Buffered, effervescent powder of calcium, magnesium, and potassium

ascorbates. Facilitates recovery from disbacteriosis, IBS, impacted

stools, irregularity, constipation, and related colorectal

disorders. Non-addictive, suitable for children and long-term use.

240 grams (8 oz), 96 servings

The author also suggests repopulating the gut with good bacteria--of

course, everyone on this list certainly knows about that! He has

some stuff he sells, but I wonder if doing the kefir grains stuff

would be good enough. Maybe not, with a hard core situation (oops!

I didn't mean to make that pun, but I'll leave it) like mine, huh?

in TN

>

> > Hi group!

> >

> > It seems like a silly question, but I was wondering what healthy

> > stools are. Color, texture, odor, etc. I've been paying more

attention

> > to them lately, and I realized I don't know what normal is! Are

there

> > any sites with good info? (Pictures?)

>

[Guest guest]

,

I heard that the grains themselves are not probiotics. They create the probiotics as a result of the digestion of the sugars. Now, this is just something I heard, but it's worth checking out before you use the grains to replace any probiotics you are currently taking.

Marla

On Mon, May 19, 2008 at 10:32 PM, creativemess10 <creativemess10@...> wrote:

Didn't I read somewhere in here that one can actually grind up milkkefir grains to get a great source of probiotics? I can't find

anyone else to give grains to, and they are just piling up in ourfrig. I hate to throw them away, b/c they are so precious. Maybethese could replace paying for probiotics for our less affectedfamily members and myself.

in TN

[Guest guest]

I noticed that his ingredients (the Fiber Menace guy) were very similar to Emergen-c, that fizzy vitamin c drink to take when you get sick. So I tried it with the same directions he has for his pills. I drank the drink first thing in the morning followed by another big glass of water. I didn't eat anything for at least 20 minutes. It worked.

I'm usually constipated too, but not as bad as you describe, so I don't know if it'll work for you. I'm still considering buying his product, I was just checking to see if it would work for me with the Emergen-c, since I had that on hand. It's also nice to know that if I go on vacation I can take the Emergen-c along for colds and constipation.

My husband said vitamin c alone will do the same thing. I tried that, and it sort of worked, but not as well.

[Guest guest]

>>Didn't I read somewhere in here that one can actually grind up milk

kefir grains to get a great source of probiotics? <<

Yes, absolutely, whiz them in the blender in the smoothies!

Take care,

Alice - HSing mom to Alice (w/DS) born Thanksgiving Day 1995 :-)

Hopewell Junction, NY http://www.frontiernet.net/~castella/

[Guest guest]

I’ve tried his product and it does work. But I’ve found that magnesium capsules work better for me. The Hydro-C is expensive and requires you to take it first thing and it is not very good! LOL I found that the magnesium has totally helped me. I take it before bed at night.

HTH!

On 5/20/08 10:56 AM, " " <vtalex@...> wrote:

I noticed that his ingredients (the Fiber Menace guy) were very similar to Emergen-c, that fizzy vitamin c drink to take when you get sick. So I tried it with the same directions he has for his pills. I drank the drink first thing in the morning followed by another big glass of water. I didn't eat anything for at least 20 minutes. It worked.

I'm usually constipated too, but not as bad as you describe, so I don't know if it'll work for you. I'm still considering buying his product, I was just checking to see if it would work for me with the Emergen-c, since I had that on hand. It's also nice to know that if I go on vacation I can take the Emergen-c along for colds and constipation.

My husband said vitamin c alone will do the same thing. I tried that, and it sort of worked, but not as well.

[Guest guest]

Hi, Jane,

We are working with Dr. Cowan. He told us to go at whatever pace we

needed to and to start introducing dairy foods (staring with clarified

butter, then butter, and so on) as we were able.

I have no problems digesting dairy. My husband, though, does. We

started with no dairy for the first couple of weeks. Like I said, I

had diarrhea for about a week. DH had it for about 2 weeks, maybe just

over 2 weeks.

After the diarrhea cleared up, I started introducing dairy. For me, I

was able to go straight to milk and cream pretty quickly -- no change

in stool.

I asked to see DH's stool today (hahaha -- " You know you are on GAPS

when... " ) and it was a #4 on the Bristol chart. I was very happy! I

have been incorporating butter and kefir for the 4-5 days --s o it

seems like he's doing fine with it. Next we will try yogurt.

Ann Marie

On May 19, 2008, at 10:52 AM, Jane Swanson wrote:

>

> Hi Ann Marie,

>

> I can't recall whether you did the GAPS diet with the slow

> introduction of

> foods per SCD. Can you please refresh my memory with how you are

> proceeding?