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I have never known a Mike that wasn't funny or at least had a great sense of humor. My middle son is a and he can double for any stand up comedian anywhere.

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Please keep on with the jokes! My mother said I was a serious kid and

now I'm a serious adult. Never learned how to loosen up and joke. I

love reading the funny stuff on this bbs. Makes the world look a little

less gloomy. Wish I could be funny like bill and bob in ms. By the way,

Bob, when you retook the breathalyzer test, what was the reading?

Mike

On Wednesday, July 30, 2003, at 06:57 PM, RJS wrote:

> hi everybody,,

>

> what is the concensis of opinion with the group... do we do away with

> someof the funny stuff often posted, i for one enjoy the heck out of

> it....first place i go in the morning is to my email to read the

> posts. and i just love the humor. i learned a long time ago that

> making

> jest of oneself is about the biggest selfesteem builder i know of.....

>

> im becoming well know in at least three casinos with my antics in the

> wheelchair.

>

> last week, three of the gaurds teamed up together and took me into

> custody

> and made me blow in the breatylyzer, the officers had no idea that i

> was a

> retired cop and a certified breathylyzer. i went along with the whole

> thing and when all was said and done and they were bringing up my

> alcohol

> content up with the copy macnine, i reached over and turned the

> breathylizer on and suggested we do it again proplly..

>

> and they thought they had a live wire...

> hhhhhhhhhhhhghaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

>

> bob in ms

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hi mike,

im sure glad you asked me that question. i wondered if anyone actually

read some of my feeble attempts at being humourous... ive been told many

times to not quit my day job. but bill is by far top banana,,,,,i swear

the guy must have a program to comeup with some of the stuff he writes.. i

look for him especially,. every day.

and, i was ,004. i did in fact have four coronas with a piece of lime in

each one. i would advise the normal sized person to try this.. i can

drink just a wee bit more beer than the skinny guy or gal could...heck i

could get away with a bit more than the chubby people as well...hee hee

mr duf,

that was a good description of a day from that ledgers of hell. i had one

of the them yesterday and got 13 hours of sleep out of it during the night,,

by all

bob in ms. anybody hear from shawn...she is another one

missed. she is another i would call quite talented in writing world.

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Hey Bob:

If Bill is the top banana you are a very close second, if it weren't for you guys i dont know what we would do. (Father mike i think you are hilarious too, no relations to clinton) I think you should too, like Bill, try stand up. TURK

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hi mike,im sure glad you asked me that question. i wondered if anyone actually read some of my feeble attempts at being humourous... ive been told many times to not quit my day job. but bill is by far top banana,,,,,i swear the guy must have a program to comeup with some of the stuff he writes.. i look for him especially,. every day.and, i was ,004. i did in fact have four coronas with a piece of lime in each one. i would advise the normal sized person to try this.. i can drink just a wee bit more beer than the skinny guy or gal could...heck i could get away with a bit more than the chubby people as well...hee heemr duf,that was a good description of a day from that ledgers of hell. i had one of the them yesterday and got 13 hours of sleep out of it during the night,, by all bob in ms. anybody hear from shawn...she is another one missed. she is another i would call quite talented in writing world.Please visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

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Bob, your doc lets you drink alcohol? Mine said no way so now I'm the

designated driver every time we go out. Some things just go better with

a mug of beer. I'm even supposed to stay away from caffeine so I don't

drink iced tea either. It's usually water with a twist of lemon.

Mike

On Thursday, July 31, 2003, at 09:28 AM, RJS wrote:

> i did in fact have four coronas with a piece of lime in

> each one.

> Please visit the Zapper homepage at

> http://www.ZapLife.org

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hi mike,

please dont take my lifestyle to heart. ive got all the problems that

eveyone else has except that i feel good with the occasional down two or

three days.

my hips have detiorated to the point where i use a wheelchair quite

often. cant get aroung the casinos at all without one.

i do enjoy my beer and i mix my coffee 60% decaf 40%caff. i dont drink

everyday and mostly try to limit it to sundays.. and i eat to darn much as

well,,,,the casino buffets are just out of this world and i very seldom

have to pay for a meal.

im not supposed to do any of that stuff either, but when i go to the docs

all i hear is see you in 3 months,, we will bill your insurance.(thank god

for that part) and with a one dollar co pay on my prescriptions the docs

enjoy filling me up with pills. I know the big problems are coming but i

just refuse to sit down in my recliner and wait for them.. as ive said

before, i know i have to out sooner or later, but im hoping for sooner and

refuse to go out without kicking and screaming all the way.

so, you see, mike, ive made some personal choices based on the way my docs

treat me. they appear unable to do anything for me so i just go one day at

a time and enjoy myself.

seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ya

bob in ms (maybe i should call myself " long winded bob "

HEY TURK,,,,,, COME ON DOWN

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I might Bob, i can sure use a time away from the monotoness (dont know how to splell it) TURK

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hi mike,please dont take my lifestyle to heart. ive got all the problems that eveyone else has except that i feel good with the occasional down two or three days.my hips have detiorated to the point where i use a wheelchair quite often. cant get aroung the casinos at all without one.i do enjoy my beer and i mix my coffee 60% decaf 40%caff. i dont drink everyday and mostly try to limit it to sundays.. and i eat to darn much as well,,,,the casino buffets are just out of this world and i very seldom have to pay for a meal.im not supposed to do any of that stuff either, but when i go to the docs all i hear is see you in 3 months,, we will bill your insurance.(thank god for that part) and with a one dollar co pay on my prescriptions the docs enjoy filling me up with pills. I know the big problems are coming but i just refuse to sit down in my recliner and wait for them.. as ive said before, i know i have to out sooner or later, but im hoping for sooner and refuse to go out without kicking and screaming all the way.so, you see, mike, ive made some personal choices based on the way my docs treat me. they appear unable to do anything for me so i just go one day at a time and enjoy myself. seeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee ya bob in ms (maybe i should call myself "long winded bob" HEY TURK,,,,,, COME ON DOWNPlease visit the Zapper homepage athttp://www.ZapLife.org

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Ok, my son has every feature of AS other than the lack of eye contact and the withdrawn piece.

He has always (at least since about 4) been intersted in other children but he has always been clueless on how to interact with them appropriatly. He has never been able to solve peer conflicts without adult intervention and he's now 11. He has become less and less socially outgoing as years go by and he starts to actually notice the rejection...but this has taken a while and these same kids have been rejecting him since about 2nd grade. His birthday parties started at age 5 with at least 10 kids sometimes more (back when the parents made the decisions for the kids to come) but now I pray that the 2 we invited will even come. He's invited to an average of 1 birthday party a year now and it's always the same kid(s).

I am wondering if the events of his toddlerhood molded his AS into a bit of a differnt form. For example, DH is from a very large family and they have several get togeathers during the year. He always took a very long time to "warm up" when we got to these parties or holidays but when he did he would sometimes tell elabotate (sensless) stories about nothing or stand there doing a "re-play" word for word and action for action of one of his "Pooh vidoes" .....(he thought he WAS Eyore at that age) anyway....DH's family LAUGHED AND LAUGHED at him....loud and hard EVERY TIME. Now....at first he did not have a clue what was so funny but then he started to "expect" it almost like a cause and effect senario. He would try and perform anytime they were around (but even if he was not performing) they would always provide that laugh and this behavior always got him allot of attention. Eventually this became his M.O. "class clown" 80% of the time (with peers) making NO sense at all but the kids were so little that they laughed anyway because he looked like a wing nut. Now, he's still trying to use these same methods at 11 to socialize and the kids are looking at him like he's lost his mind. He has no idea why he doesn't still get the reaction it use to.

Like I said this and the eye contact are virtually the only things that are not consistant with the DSM and I fear it may delay the finial diagnosis......are we the only ones something like this has happened to???

Thanks!!

-Charlotte

Mom to 11 AS/ADHD

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Hi Charlotte,

>>Ok, my son has every feature of AS other than the lack of eye contact and

>>the withdrawn piece.<<

In the DSM criteria for AS, eye contact is given as an *example* of a

non-verbal behaviour used to regulate social interaction which will be

impaired. It also says " the use of multiple non-verbal behaviours " - so it

is not whether or not he uses eye contact at all, but whether he uses it in

combination with other non-verbal behaviours, and whether he uses it totally

appropriately in every single situation (I bet he doesn't).

In any case, he only needs 2 out of the 4 options offered in part 1 and as

you describe he definitely has (B) " failure to develop peer relationships

appropriate to developmental level " - he has no idea how to make or keep

friends - and (d) " lack of social or emotional reciprocity " - he found a way

to entertain when he was small, although he didn't have a clue as to why,

and has no idea why it no longer works.

Not quite sure what you are referring to when you say the 'withdrawn piece'?

in England

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By withdrawn I meant a lack of interest in other children. My son always wanted the attention of other children but had no clue what to do with it.

-Charlotte

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Hi Charlotte,>>Ok, my son has every feature of AS other than the lack of eye contact and >>the withdrawn piece.<<In the DSM criteria for AS, eye contact is given as an *example* of a non-verbal behaviour used to regulate social interaction which will be impaired. It also says "the use of multiple non-verbal behaviours" - so it is not whether or not he uses eye contact at all, but whether he uses it in combination with other non-verbal behaviours, and whether he uses it totally appropriately in every single situation (I bet he doesn't).In any case, he only needs 2 out of the 4 options offered in part 1 and as you describe he definitely has (B) "failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level" - he has no idea how to make or keep friends - and (d) "lack of social or emotional reciprocity" - he found a way to entertain when he was small, although he didn't have a clue as to why, and has no idea why it no longer works.Not quite sure what you are referring to when you say the 'withdrawn piece'? in England

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Ok, my son has every feature of AS other

than the lack of eye contact and the withdrawn piece.

He has always (at least since about 4) been

intersted in other children but he has always been clueless on how to interact

with them appropriatly.

Like I said this and the eye contact are

virtually the only things that are not consistant with the DSM and I fear it

may delay the finial diagnosis......are we the only ones something like this

has happened to???************this

shouldn’t matter

Thanks!!

-Charlotte

Mom to 11 AS/ADHD

Charlotte, does like to play Chess or any Strategy games such as

Stratego. Possibly you could talk to him about replacing the ‘try to make

kids laugh’ behavior with teaching some of the kids not as interested in

sports or whatever, with games that are more age appropriate. In fourth grade

my son got most of the boys interested in chess. Usually the school has a chess

club. A strategy game club might be something for the future. I know it is

tough to watch the rejection…Gail

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Gail, that's not a bad idea at all, thanks!!

-Charlotte

RE: Social

Ok, my son has every feature of AS other than the lack of eye contact and the withdrawn piece.

He has always (at least since about 4) been intersted in other children but he has always been clueless on how to interact with them appropriatly.

Like I said this and the eye contact are virtually the only things that are not consistant with the DSM and I fear it may delay the finial diagnosis......are we the only ones something like this has happened to???************this shouldn’t matter

Thanks!!

-Charlotte

Mom to 11 AS/ADHD

Charlotte, does like to play Chess or any Strategy games such as Stratego. Possibly you could talk to him about replacing the ‘try to make kids laugh’ behavior with teaching some of the kids not as interested in sports or whatever, with games that are more age appropriate. In fourth grade my son got most of the boys interested in chess. Usually the school has a chess club. A strategy game club might be something for the future. I know it is tough to watch the rejection…Gail

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Hi Charlotte,

>>By withdrawn I meant a lack of interest in other children. My son always

>>wanted the attention of other children but had no clue what to do with

>>it.<<

But that is not part of the dx'ic criteria. In fact there are people who

will say the difference between AS and autism is whether or not there is a

desire to interact with other people (there isn't actually any such

difference - autism is a spectrum disorder and as such those with ASD show

the whole range of behaviours).

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Not every

child is withdrawn or lacks eye contact. Tyler isn’t, but he still struggles

with relationships and recognizing social cues at age 14! The good dr told us

that not all avoid eye contact, that that particular feature was more common in

HFA.

~hugs~

Rabecca

(who is

back out of the hospital… again)

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From: designs

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Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005

3:45 PM

To:

Autism and Aspergers Treatment

Subject: Re:

Social

Ok, my son has every feature of AS other than the lack of eye

contact and the withdrawn piece.

He has always (at least since about 4) been intersted in other

children but he has always been clueless on how to interact with them

appropriatly. He has never been able to solve peer conflicts without

adult intervention and he's now 11. He has become less and less socially

outgoing as years go by and he starts to actually notice the rejection...but

this has taken a while and these same kids have been rejecting him since about

2nd grade. His birthday parties started at age 5 with at least 10 kids

sometimes more (back when the parents made the decisions for the kids to come)

but now I pray that the 2 we invited will even come. He's invited to an

average of 1 birthday party a year now and it's always the same kid(s).

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That's what I told the teacher. :)

-Charlotte

RE: Social

Not every child is withdrawn or lacks eye contact. Tyler isn’t, but he still struggles with relationships and recognizing social cues at age 14! The good dr told us that not all avoid eye contact, that that particular feature was more common in HFA.

~hugs~

Rabecca

(who is back out of the hospital… again)

-----Original Message-----From: designs [mailto:scottdesigns@...]Sent: Monday, January 31, 2005 3:45 PMAutism and Aspergers Treatment Subject: Re: Social

Ok, my son has every feature of AS other than the lack of eye contact and the withdrawn piece.

He has always (at least since about 4) been intersted in other children but he has always been clueless on how to interact with them appropriatly. He has never been able to solve peer conflicts without adult intervention and he's now 11. He has become less and less socially outgoing as years go by and he starts to actually notice the rejection...but this has taken a while and these same kids have been rejecting him since about 2nd grade. His birthday parties started at age 5 with at least 10 kids sometimes more (back when the parents made the decisions for the kids to come) but now I pray that the 2 we invited will even come. He's invited to an average of 1 birthday party a year now and it's always the same kid(s).

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Jasmine only avoids eye contact with total strangers,

xxx

> That's what I told the teacher. :)

> -Charlotte

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> Ok, my son has every feature of AS other than the lack of eye

contact and the withdrawn piece.

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> He has always (at least since about 4) been intersted in other

children but he has always been clueless on how to interact with them

appropriatly. He has never been able to solve peer conflicts without

adult intervention and he's now 11. He has become less and less

socially outgoing as years go by and he starts to actually notice the

rejection...but this has taken a while and these same kids have been

rejecting him since about 2nd grade. His birthday parties started at

age 5 with at least 10 kids sometimes more (back when the parents

made the decisions for the kids to come) but now I pray that the 2 we

invited will even come. He's invited to an average of 1 birthday

party a year now and it's always the same kid(s).

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