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mcamp10139@... wrote:

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> From: mcamp10139@...

> <snip>

> Now it seems that my

> biggest problem is that I am constantly getting

> a cold, bronchial infection, mild flu or whatever

> is going around. Many PWCs report very few colds

> and no flu, only relapses. <snip>

Mike,

Have you been tested for chlamydia pneumoniae? At one

time during the course of this disease I kept getting sinus

infections, which invariably traveled downward, going from

sinus to throat to chest and ending up in a bronchial

infection. Turned out after my blood was tested that I had

chlamydia pneumonia. Cheney treated me for it (with two

antibiotics--Biaxin & Flagyl) and I haven't had a bronchial

infection since. Its worth a try.

Sheri

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Mike

A lot of people belive that kutapressin helps in this area. I take it but I

am not sure how much it helps. Have you had your testosterone level checked?

You might talk to an endrocrinologist about getting a complete workup and

even have a HGH stimulation test.

good luck

Steve

Introduction and question

From: mcamp10139@...

I am fairly new to the list and Carol is my support group leader here in the

DFW area. I have

had CFS for 6 years and was diagnosed by Dr.

Salvato in Houston among others. Until recently

I was having pretty severe relapses. I did a

juice fast for about six weeks and that cleared

up most of my GI problems. Now it seems that my

biggest problem is that I am constantly getting

a cold, bronchial infection, mild flu or whatever

is going around. Many PWCs report very few colds

and no flu, only relapses. My question is, what

should I be taking to boost my immune system?

CoQ10, HGH, vitamin A? Any comments would be

appreciated. I'm 42 and still working (but taking lots of sick days).

Thanks, Mike

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Dear Sheri,

May I ask how long you have been treated with the antibiotics ?

NICO.

At 10:22 23-07-99 -0500, you wrote:

>Mike,

> Have you been tested for chlamydia pneumoniae? At one

>time during the course of this disease I kept getting sinus

>infections, which invariably traveled downward, going from

>sinus to throat to chest and ending up in a bronchial

>infection. Turned out after my blood was tested that I had

>chlamydia pneumonia. Cheney treated me for it (with two

>antibiotics--Biaxin & Flagyl) and I haven't had a bronchial

>infection since. Its worth a try.

>

>Sheri

>

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Yes, Nico, you sure can. If I remember correctly (its been several

years ago, so I'm hoping this is correct--right now I've got a little

brain fog that's intefering with my reception!) I was on Biaxin and

Flagyl concurrently for about three or four months. Cheney told me

that research from Duke had shown that Biaxin would take care of the

chlamydia pneumoniae bacteria BETWEEN the blood cells, but that to get

to the bacteria which had penetrated INSIDE the blood cells, you had to

use Flagyl, an antibiotic that is able to penetrate cell walls. This is

why I was on both antibiotics at the same time. Only one problem:

after being on such strong antibiotics for that length of time, I was

left with a terrible systemic yeast infection. Cheney treated me for

this with daily doses of Diflucan and probiotics (also for several

months, as I recall). I still take the probiotics, in fact, just to try

and " ward of " anything that might try to " set up shop " in my system!

Sheri

nico vde wrote:

>

> From: nico vde <nvdeynde@...>

>

> Dear Sheri,

>

> May I ask how long you have been treated with the antibiotics ?

>

> NICO.

>

> At 10:22 23-07-99 -0500, you wrote:

>

> >Mike,

> > Have you been tested for chlamydia pneumoniae? At one

> >time during the course of this disease I kept getting sinus

> >infections, which invariably traveled downward, going from

> >sinus to throat to chest and ending up in a bronchial

> >infection. Turned out after my blood was tested that I had

> >chlamydia pneumonia. Cheney treated me for it (with two

> >antibiotics--Biaxin & Flagyl) and I haven't had a bronchial

> >infection since. Its worth a try.

> >

> >Sheri

> >

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Hi Sheri,

I'm interested in your treatment. The RA specialist I went to see a couple

of weeks ago mentioned chlamydia and microplasma in his treatment of his CFS

patients. (my GP thought I might have lupus and had sent me to this

specialist. I never mentioned CFS to him, but after looking at me over and

at my blood work up he told me I had CFS)

When I came home and told my husband what the specialist had said he was

confused and so am I about the chlamydia. Isn't this a STD? Is there other

ways of getting it or is it a different strain of the virus?

Judi

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>From: allan moore <afmoore1@...>

>

>Yes, Nico, you sure can. If I remember correctly (its been several

>years ago, so I'm hoping this is correct--right now I've got a little

>brain fog that's intefering with my reception!) I was on Biaxin and

>Flagyl concurrently for about three or four months. Cheney told me

>that research from Duke had shown that Biaxin would take care of the

>chlamydia pneumoniae bacteria BETWEEN the blood cells, but that to get

>to the bacteria which had penetrated INSIDE the blood cells, you had to

>use Flagyl, an antibiotic that is able to penetrate cell walls. This is

>why I was on both antibiotics at the same time. Only one problem:

>after being on such strong antibiotics for that length of time, I was

>left with a terrible systemic yeast infection. Cheney treated me for

>this with daily doses of Diflucan and probiotics (also for several

>months, as I recall). I still take the probiotics, in fact, just to try

>and " ward of " anything that might try to " set up shop " in my system!

>

>Sheri

>

>nico vde wrote:

>>

>> From: nico vde <nvdeynde@...>

>>

>> Dear Sheri,

>>

>> May I ask how long you have been treated with the antibiotics ?

>>

>> NICO.

>>

>> At 10:22 23-07-99 -0500, you wrote:

>>

>> >Mike,

>> > Have you been tested for chlamydia pneumoniae? At one

>> >time during the course of this disease I kept getting sinus

>> >infections, which invariably traveled downward, going from

>> >sinus to throat to chest and ending up in a bronchial

>> >infection. Turned out after my blood was tested that I had

>> >chlamydia pneumonia. Cheney treated me for it (with two

>> >antibiotics--Biaxin & Flagyl) and I haven't had a bronchial

>> >infection since. Its worth a try.

>> >

>> >Sheri

>> >

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Nelly

Thanks for clearing that up for me. It really had me confused, but I am

easily confused these days.

Thanks again,

Judi

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>>

>>

>>>From: allan moore <afmoore1@...>

>>>

>>>Yes, Nico, you sure can. If I remember correctly (its been several

>>>years ago, so I'm hoping this is correct--right now I've got a little

>>>brain fog that's intefering with my reception!) I was on Biaxin and

>>>Flagyl concurrently for about three or four months. Cheney told me

>>>that research from Duke had shown that Biaxin would take care of the

>>>chlamydia pneumoniae bacteria BETWEEN the blood cells, but that to get

>>>to the bacteria which had penetrated INSIDE the blood cells, you had to

>>>use Flagyl, an antibiotic that is able to penetrate cell walls. This is

>>>why I was on both antibiotics at the same time. Only one problem:

>>>after being on such strong antibiotics for that length of time, I was

>>>left with a terrible systemic yeast infection. Cheney treated me for

>>>this with daily doses of Diflucan and probiotics (also for several

>>>months, as I recall). I still take the probiotics, in fact, just to try

>>>and " ward of " anything that might try to " set up shop " in my system!

>>>

>>>Sheri

>>>

>>>nico vde wrote:

>>>>

>>>> From: nico vde <nvdeynde@...>

>>>>

>>>> Dear Sheri,

>>>>

>>>> May I ask how long you have been treated with the antibiotics ?

>>>>

>>>> NICO.

>>>>

>>>> At 10:22 23-07-99 -0500, you wrote:

>>>>

>>>> >Mike,

>>>> > Have you been tested for chlamydia pneumoniae? At one

>>>> >time during the course of this disease I kept getting sinus

>>>> >infections, which invariably traveled downward, going from

>>>> >sinus to throat to chest and ending up in a bronchial

>>>> >infection. Turned out after my blood was tested that I had

>>>> >chlamydia pneumonia. Cheney treated me for it (with two

>>>> >antibiotics--Biaxin & Flagyl) and I haven't had a bronchial

>>>> >infection since. Its worth a try.

>>>> >

>>>> >Sheri

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That's a great suggestion. The problem is they don't want to know that. Please

read my IOM testimony on the types of studies needed.

I tried for a number of years to get a bill passed which would required

vaccination as part of the death certificate of children 7 and under (this was

before so many vaxes for older children). " Public Health " successfully fought

it touth and nail. If I ever needed proof that they don't want information,

there it was.

The problem is: who will pay for such a study? The government used to be a

good one to ask, but now that they cover the vaccine manufacturer's liability,

not a lot of chance they will fairly examine the issue.

It's like with herbs - here you have years of empirical data, but since they

can't be patented, no one is interested, not even the herbal companies. (Who

would have a vested interest, and could be challenged anyway.)

Sandy from Alaska

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Introduction and question

Hi everyone, my name is Jenine and I have a 5 month old beautiful

son. At his 2 month well child visit, he received all of his shots.

Back then I did not think to question the vaccines. 3 hours after we

got home, he started to cry and scream. He did this for 5 days! If

he wasn't sleeping or eating, he was crying. It was the strangest

cry also. It scared dh and me!!! At his 4 month checkup, we

mentioned this to his ped. who said that it was probably the flu. No

way would the vaccine cause that. I argued with her and long story

short, he received all the shots except the pertussis. He was fine

after those shots.

Over the past month I've been researching this vaccine issue and am

appalled at what I'm reading. My husband and I have decided no more

vaccines for little guy. We are currently going to a chiropracter

that specializes in natural healing and he is trying to undo the

damage (if any) that might have been done. So far my ds shows no

signs of any problems, but you never know what might show up in the

future. We are keeping our fingers crossed and saying our prayers

that everything will be ok.

The few people I've told about the no vax have not taken to it

kindly. Especially my brother who is a MD. He gave me the whole

canned talk, but eventually said that I'm the parent and I have to do

what I think is best.

Anyways, that's a little bit about me. I have a question however

that I would love to pose to the pro-vaccine researchers. Why don't

you compare the incidence of autism, ms, ADHD, Crohn's, etc. among

vaccinated kids against the incidence of the same diseases in the

Jehova Witness kids. From what I know, they do not give any

vaccinations, therefore, this would be a good comparison. Correct?

Any comments would be appreciated. I would also like to say that in

the 4 days I've been on this group I've learned a tremendous amount.

I only wish there was a way to consolidate everything so that I could

present the info to others.

God Bless everyone,

Jenine

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Hi Jenine, glad you're here. I saw Sandy already told you why an official

study won't be done comparing the Jehovas to vaccinated. She's absolutely

right.

Thought I would mention that I print alot of the e-mails and file them so

that I will have a copy of relevant articles or poignant stories of parents

with vaccine damaged children to show the non-believers. It's hard to get my

husband to read a book, but I made him look at the pictures of dead children

on www.909shot.com and made him read those heartbreaking stories. He was

real quick to jump on the bandwagon with me then! I also make him read alot

of the e-mails from here. So I think it is a good idea to print alot of this

information.

Your Jehova Witness idea - it was a dang good one.

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> Hi Jenine, glad you're here. I saw Sandy already told you why an

> official

> study won't be done comparing the Jehovas to vaccinated. She's

> absolutely

> right.

you mean to say jehovas don't vaccinate?

wow

fio.

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jenine,

hi and welcome to the list!! glad you were able to stop the vax!! it must

have been very difficult--especially with having a brother who's an md!! :o)

i hope your ds has no long term problems from any of the vaxes he

received...hope you are able to get lots of support and info from this

list--there's a ton of it on here!!

brigit, in albany, ny

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Hi aul!!!

Love,

On 8/28/02 9:26 PM, " aul_co " <apedajas@...> wrote:

> Hi,

>

> Yes, I'm back! To all of you who don't remember me or were not

> members when I was here last time, I would like to say that I am a 39-

> year-old male living in Denver, Colorado. I was born in Estonia and I

> have SMA 2. I use BiPAP at night and I have a trach which I keep only

> for emergency.

>

> Does anybody know where to get a so-called " button " that keeps the

> hole in my trachea instead of keeping a trach there all the time? As

> I mentioned above, I don't use a trach, but I need to keep the hole

> in my neck for emergency. Unfortunately, my doctor does not know

> where to get one of those buttons. I appreciate any kind of

> information.

>

> Thanks in advance and please take care,

> Aul

>

>

>

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We had no luck in finding any either. What I ended up doing is using a CAD

program do draw up a couple of possible designs and took them to a machinist

to see if he could make either or both of them out of stainless steel. He

was able to make both designs and they came out perfectly. The one that

Lori uses is just a simple plug that she holds in place with a Band-Aid.

The other has " wings " with a slot in each wing to thread a ribbon or piece

of elastic through. I no longer have the drawings, but I can take some

pictures if you are interested.

> Does anybody know where to get a so-called " button " that keeps the

> hole in my trachea instead of keeping a trach there all the time? As

> I mentioned above, I don't use a trach, but I need to keep the hole

> in my neck for emergency. Unfortunately, my doctor does not know

> where to get one of those buttons. I appreciate any kind of

> information.

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Thanks. The only problem would be who would make one?

Aul

> We had no luck in finding any either. What I ended up doing is

using a CAD

> program do draw up a couple of possible designs and took them to a

machinist

> to see if he could make either or both of them out of stainless

steel. He

> was able to make both designs and they came out perfectly. The one

that

> Lori uses is just a simple plug that she holds in place with a Band-

Aid.

> The other has " wings " with a slot in each wing to thread a ribbon

or piece

> of elastic through. I no longer have the drawings, but I can take

some

> pictures if you are interested.

>

>

>

> > Does anybody know where to get a so-called " button " that keeps the

> > hole in my trachea instead of keeping a trach there all the time?

As

> > I mentioned above, I don't use a trach, but I need to keep the

hole

> > in my neck for emergency. Unfortunately, my doctor does not know

> > where to get one of those buttons. I appreciate any kind of

> > information.

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's dad just called around to different machine shops in the area and

found one pretty easily.

Lori

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Thanks. The only problem would be who would make one?

Aul

> We had no luck in finding any either. What I ended up doing is

using a CAD

> program do draw up a couple of possible designs and took them to a

machinist

> to see if he could make either or both of them out of stainless

steel. He

> was able to make both designs and they came out perfectly. The one

that

> Lori uses is just a simple plug that she holds in place with a Band-

Aid.

> The other has " wings " with a slot in each wing to thread a ribbon

or piece

> of elastic through. I no longer have the drawings, but I can take

some

> pictures if you are interested.

>

>

>

> > Does anybody know where to get a so-called " button " that keeps the

> > hole in my trachea instead of keeping a trach there all the time?

As

> > I mentioned above, I don't use a trach, but I need to keep the

hole

> > in my neck for emergency. Unfortunately, my doctor does not know

> > where to get one of those buttons. I appreciate any kind of

> > information.

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excellent! Thanks a lot! I am definitely interested in those drawings

then. Do you happen to know how much they charge for making one?

Aul

> > We had no luck in finding any either. What I ended up doing is

> using a CAD

> > program do draw up a couple of possible designs and took them to a

> machinist

> > to see if he could make either or both of them out of stainless

> steel. He

> > was able to make both designs and they came out perfectly. The

one

> that

> > Lori uses is just a simple plug that she holds in place with a

Band-

> Aid.

> > The other has " wings " with a slot in each wing to thread a ribbon

> or piece

> > of elastic through. I no longer have the drawings, but I can take

> some

> > pictures if you are interested.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Does anybody know where to get a so-called " button " that keeps

the

> > > hole in my trachea instead of keeping a trach there all the

time?

> As

> > > I mentioned above, I don't use a trach, but I need to keep the

> hole

> > > in my neck for emergency. Unfortunately, my doctor does not know

> > > where to get one of those buttons. I appreciate any kind of

> > > information.

>

>

>

>

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Aul,

took some pictures of the trach buttons we had made. I will e-mail you

directly. If anyone else wants to see, please let me know.

How much? I don't know. The guy who made mine did it for free..so nice of

him. They probably wouldn't charge much tho. If I were to do this again, I

would go for a lighter weight material (just sure what tho).

Lori

P.S. I have a size 4 trach.

Re: Introduction and question

excellent! Thanks a lot! I am definitely interested in those drawings

then. Do you happen to know how much they charge for making one?

Aul

> > We had no luck in finding any either. What I ended up doing is

> using a CAD

> > program do draw up a couple of possible designs and took them to a

> machinist

> > to see if he could make either or both of them out of stainless

> steel. He

> > was able to make both designs and they came out perfectly. The

one

> that

> > Lori uses is just a simple plug that she holds in place with a

Band-

> Aid.

> > The other has " wings " with a slot in each wing to thread a ribbon

> or piece

> > of elastic through. I no longer have the drawings, but I can take

> some

> > pictures if you are interested.

> >

> >

> >

> > > Does anybody know where to get a so-called " button " that keeps

the

> > > hole in my trachea instead of keeping a trach there all the

time?

> As

> > > I mentioned above, I don't use a trach, but I need to keep the

> hole

> > > in my neck for emergency. Unfortunately, my doctor does not know

> > > where to get one of those buttons. I appreciate any kind of

> > > information.

>

>

>

>

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Hi ,

Here is a link to Dr. Barrs curriculum vitae. He is an otolgist at the Carolina Ear and Hearing Clinic located in Raleigh. He provides an email address on his CV so I would imagine you could email him with questions. Here is the link:

http://www.carolinaear.com/resumebarrs.pdf

Let me know how it works out for you. This is an adobe acrobat file (pdf).

Michele

<lisa@...> wrote:

Hi,I just found this group and wanted to introduce myself. My name is andI was just diagnosed with a cholesteatoma. I have had ear infections foryears but always went to my family physician. Finally decided to self refermyself to a ENT and was diagnosed last week. I'm pretty scared afterreading some of this information. I'm looking for a good surgeon in theRaleigh - Durham area. Please let me know if you can recommend someone.1. What is your relationship to the patient (self, spouse, son, daughter,etc)? SelfIf self, male or female. Female2. What is the current age of the patient? 393. At what age was the patient diagnosed? 394. Do you know if the chlesteatoma is acquired or congenital (present atbirth)? acquired5. How manysurgeries have you/patient had? none yet6. What type of surgeries were done?7. What state or country do you live in (indicate city if you wish)? I askthis incase a new member in your area needs to find a competent doctor.Raleigh NC

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At 07:22 AM 11/05/2002 -0600, you wrote:

>Hello!

>I am a stay at home mom of a 2 year old. He has his vacs up until 12

>months. I stopped because It never felt right to be giving him them in

>the first place.

>I love reading this forum and learning from y'all.

>My mainproblem has been weather to go to the Doctor or not. I stopped

>going after 12 months and then we moved. Once here I have taken Finn to

>a family Doctor a couple of times for sickness but no well baby check

>ups. The Doctor has never inquired about vacs. So do I continue this way

>and just avoid the topic OR do I need to be taking Finn to well baby

>check ups and face the music?

Hi - you have to decide whether well-baby check ups are important. Is a

doctor likely to pick up on something that you as a mom hasn't already

picked up on.

Many have stopped going. But it has to be a personal decision. We've been

a little programmed that we need well baby checks same as vaccines. But

you have to decide

>The Doctor is very nice but he also seems somewhat mainstream so I am

>just not sure of his view on the whole issue.

>Thanks in advance!

>Penny

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At 07:22 AM 11/05/2002 -0600, you wrote:

>Hello!

>I am a stay at home mom of a 2 year old. He has his vacs up until 12

>months. I stopped because It never felt right to be giving him them in

>the first place.

>I love reading this forum and learning from y'all.

>My mainproblem has been weather to go to the Doctor or not. I stopped

>going after 12 months and then we moved. Once here I have taken Finn to

>a family Doctor a couple of times for sickness but no well baby check

>ups. The Doctor has never inquired about vacs. So do I continue this way

>and just avoid the topic OR do I need to be taking Finn to well baby

>check ups and face the music?

Hi - you have to decide whether well-baby check ups are important. Is a

doctor likely to pick up on something that you as a mom hasn't already

picked up on.

Many have stopped going. But it has to be a personal decision. We've been

a little programmed that we need well baby checks same as vaccines. But

you have to decide

Many have found quality classical homeopaths instead

http://www.homeopathy-cures.com/

click on Find a Homeopath

>The Doctor is very nice but he also seems somewhat mainstream so I am

>just not sure of his view on the whole issue.

>Thanks in advance!

>Penny

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welcome to the group. Hib usually isnt an issue with a SOLELY breastfed baby

that is at home with you and not in daycare. Those to things cut your chances

dramatically (check sheris site theres lots of info). Pertussis can be nasty

and I know first hand my dd had it at 5 mo old and with help from this list

and a GREAT homeopath we made it but it was scarey at times. There are lots

of treatments for Pertussis VIT c (sodium ascorbate form) works wonders. My

dd is 2 now and I still toss the vaccine issue. yOu will get lots of help

and support here and the moms here and sheri are wonderful outlets of

knowledge. Oh and my opinion I wouldnt be in a hurry for solids even at 6 mo

is early. Dr Jay Gordon and lots others dont recommended solids till the

first birthday. good luck and welcome!

Amy

mommy to 4

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At 02:43 AM 01/10/2003 -0600, you wrote:

>Forgive my late introduction; I have been lurking for weeks while trying to

>recover and put away the holiday bedlam that always descends around here!

>

>I have 3 children, ages 8,7, and 3 months. I was completely pro-vaccine

>before I had children. I suspected my oldest had a reaction after his 4

>month DPT; at 6 months, after hours of inconsolable screaming from a

>previously content baby, I was sure of it. Our new doctor later agreed but

>still innoculated with DT and the others. At 15 months he had his first ear

>infection; now I'm curious to see if it coincided with the MMR. At 2 he

>developed serious respiratory infection that led to pnuemonia, febrile

>seizures, and reactive airway disease for 6 months, and also began a rash of

>ear infections. Again, wondering if it coincided with some vax. Basically

>after age 2 1/2, his immune system and personality were never the same.

>Doesn't fit any specific dx criteria, but has multiple food intolerances,

>drug allergies, enviro allergies, asthma, and chronic sinusitis.

Ear infections tend to start when the immune system is assaulted with

vaccines - some children develop them right away and some later. Of course

there are ear infections in unvaccinated but VERY few. The vaccines damage

and depress the immune system. All that you are describing are seen

constantly after vacccines and rarely in unvaccinated.

>

>Obviously I am VERY wary of vax this time around with child #3, and have

>refused all so far, but have lingering concerns about diseases. My ped

>really wants us to do the Hib, at least. We also don't live too far from

>Chicago, where the pertussis outbreak occurred. Isn't pertussis a dangerous

>and miserable disease for babies? Is the new vaccine (DTaP) safer? He is

>completely breastfed (baby, not ped, LOL) and I am about to start him on a

>multivitamin from the health food store. I also don't plan to start solids

>until 6 months.

>

Others can speak to the breastfeeding issue. That is VITAL

If you are breastfeeding, little risk from HIB

Please don't let them scare you into these - that is their tactic

and pertussis - good grief - there are outbreaks all the time and this one

is not differnt. Every time there is a news story, look at what is behind

it. They are trying to prepare adults for the new demand they will make

that adults are vaccinated against pertussis - more money for the drug

company and the vaccine doesn't work and more and more people and children

with pertussis. Many vaccinated children have pertussis - but never

diagnosed as the doctor won't even go there because vaccinated. We have

had many on this list who cannot get their doctor to do the throat swab to

confirm. So don't let these news stories sway you.

We are seeing some less reactions with the new vaccine but it is NOT SAFE

and it is NOT EFFECTIVE.

Please please start reading my webpages, page by page

http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

There is no substitute for informing yourself and letting other support you.

Vaccines - ALL OF THEM are dangerous. AND all of them have not been proven

to be safe or effective.

Many switch from pediatricians to homoepaths so they aren't harrassed

because onec you find out about the dangers of vaccines, you start to

realize everything else they use is risky too - too many antibiotics, etc.

You have a great homeopath in Chicago

http://www.homeopathy-cures.com

click on find a homeopathy

Shepherd

Sheri

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Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

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Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Homeopathy course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

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At 08:00 AM 01/11/2003 EST, you wrote:

>welcome to the group. Hib usually isnt an issue with a SOLELY breastfed baby

>that is at home with you and not in daycare. Those to things cut your

chances

>dramatically (check sheris site theres lots of info). Pertussis can be nasty

>and I know first hand my dd had it at 5 mo old and with help from this list

>and a GREAT homeopath we made it but it was scarey at times. There are lots

>of treatments for Pertussis VIT c (sodium ascorbate form) works wonders. My

>dd is 2 now and I still toss the vaccine issue. yOu will get lots of help

>and support here and the moms here and sheri are wonderful outlets of

>knowledge. Oh and my opinion I wouldnt be in a hurry for solids even at 6 mo

>is early. Dr Jay Gordon and lots others dont recommended solids till the

>first birthday. good luck and welcome!

>

> Amy

Yes, as you see I talk about homeopathy a lot. Nearly ready to start my

own practice after studying 20 years.

I teach online classes and have a list I maintain of good homeopaths

there is one in Chicago on the list that I recommend as I said before.

There is nothing that can replace having a good homeopath to support you

through life and illness,.

Vaccinated children get sick and unvaccinated children get sick. But my

experience is that unvaccinated are far less sick and less often.

And vaccinated children get the diseases they are vaccinated for.

Sheri

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Sheri Nakken, R.N., MA

Vaccination Information & Choice Network, Nevada City CA & Wales UK

$$ Donations to help in the work - accepted by Paypal account

vaccineinfo@... voicemail US 530-740-0561

(go to http://www.paypal.com) or by mail

Vaccines - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/vaccine.htm

Homeopathy course - http://www.nccn.net/~wwithin/homeo.htm

ANY INFO OBTAINED HERE NOT TO BE CONSTRUED AS MEDICAL

OR LEGAL ADVICE. THE

DECISION TO VACCINATE IS YOURS AND YOURS ALONE.

******

" Just look at us. Everything is backwards; everything is upside down.

Doctors destroy health, lawyers destroy justice, universities destroy

knowledge, governments destroy freedom, the major media destroy information

and religions destroy spirituality " .... Ellner

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> I have been using a natural progesterone cream since December of

> last year and by what I have heard, I could now get off of my

> Synthroid because the progesterone cream will allow my thyroid to

> start working because of the possibility that I may not of had it

in > the first place(hypothyroidism, that is).

> My question for anyone is, has anyone heard of this? Any comments?

> Today I started just taking half a pill and will gradually wean

> myself off of it.

> Thanks,

> Chris>>

The theory of progesterone helping the thyroid (or Hypothyroidism)

comes from Dr. Lee's books on menopause and perimenopause ( " What your

doctor hasn't told you about menopause " ). If you haven't read his

books - do so. He reviews the use of progesterone.

There's also a group - " natural alternatives to hrt " that

discusses progesterone a lot and many in the forum have thyroid

disease.

There are many theories to the cause of hypothyroidism. I would be

careful about assuming it's just because of the lack of progesterone,

unless you have the tests to prove it. Plus - your body is now used

to having the thyroid suppliment - you may have strong reactions by

going off of it.

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Why not combine Armour plus progesterone. Then you will feel great.

$ynthroid is bad stuff IMO

Gracia

> Hi ,

> Thanks for replying, and I have read that book and saw a video of

> Dr.Lee. That is where I have gotten my information from. Has anyone

> on here tried to get off of synthroid using progesterone cream?

> My goal is to wean myself off by the beginning of May and then to

> not be on it at all during the month of May. I go for my yearly

> blood work at the end of May. I am praying that my blood work will

> be fine. If not, I will then ask my doctor to put me on a natural

> thyroid medicine.

> I will say this. If I notice any symptoms appearing, I will put

> myself back on the synthroid immediately. I won't do anything that I

> feel may harm me. I just want to see if I can get off of it.

> Chris

>

>

>

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Hi ,

Thanks for replying, and I have read that book and saw a video of

Dr.Lee. That is where I have gotten my information from. Has anyone

on here tried to get off of synthroid using progesterone cream?

My goal is to wean myself off by the beginning of May and then to

not be on it at all during the month of May. I go for my yearly

blood work at the end of May. I am praying that my blood work will

be fine. If not, I will then ask my doctor to put me on a natural

thyroid medicine.

I will say this. If I notice any symptoms appearing, I will put

myself back on the synthroid immediately. I won't do anything that I

feel may harm me. I just want to see if I can get off of it.

Chris

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