Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 Kathy , you asked .. 'are the manufacturers producing the proof that their product is Mercury Free? ' The worrying thing is, that they seem to have to go to such lengths nowadays, to get to being able to claim that fish contains 'beneath detectable levels' of polluant. What are we doing to our earth! I copied the following from the Equazen web site... eye q â„¢uses oil made from the bodies of small fish, specifically sardines, pilchards and anchovies. Guts and other organs are excluded. These fish are harvested at special times of the year when they seasonally consume large amounts of plankton, boosting the amount of EPA in their flesh. This is crucial for the quality of our fish oil. Because they only live for one season, their short life span means there is little chance that their tissues can become tainted with industrial pollutants, compared with larger fish, such as tuna or salmon. Secondly, we get these fish from the south Atlantic and south Pacific, from the cleanest oceans on the planet, and thus they have little contact with industrial pollutants. Finally, to guarantee total protection from such materials, the oil undergoes a 'turbo deodorisation' process, which uses steam to wash out such volatiles as dioxins. The purity of the fish oil used in eye q â„¢ is backed up by strict quality assurance. Analysis by an independent facility for dioxins, heavy metals, pesticides and other pollutants, gives us ratings beneath the detectable levels stated by the EC and the WHO. eye q â„¢ can be fairly called 'dioxin-free.' Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2002 Report Share Posted September 24, 2002 > I am watching all the postings regarding the oils with great interest. > > Are the manufacturers producing the proof that their product is Mercury Free? > > Kathy Kathy, Here's what it says on the label of the TwinLab Mega Twin EPA Fish Oil bottle: " Mega Twin EPA is the highest quality Omega-3 fish oil softgel available. " It is derived from deep sea, cold water fish and contains more Omega- 3 fatty acids (EPA & DHA) than many other brands. " Carefully screened to avoid toxic metals and chemicals, and does not have vitamins A, D or methyl esters. " I'm not trying to push the TwinLab brand. It's just that I've looked at a number of fish oils and this one has the highest EPA content of those I've come across so far. (600 mg. EPA & 240 mg. DHA per softgel cap.) If anyone comes across a product that looks better, I hope they'll post about it. Thanks. According to what (?) just posted, the ratio of EPA to DHA should be 4 to 1.(?) If indeed that's true (I don't know), then this TwinLab product wouldn't quite measure up. It would be nice to know what product those docs who did the study are using/recommending. E.B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Hello everyone interested in Essential Fatty Acids There is an australian book called Victory over Chronic Fatigue Syndrome By Bartosy Seaview Press, Henley Beach SA, 1998 Reviewed by Macharper <A HREF= " http://home.vicnet.net.au/~mecfs/general/bartosy.html " > Click here: Book Review - Victory over CFS</A> I quote from the web site as follows... > Chapter Four " Treatment " consists mainly of diary entries of levels of EFAs. > Bartosy thinks that previous trials with EFAs have failed due to the dosage > being too low or the oil being the wrong type. He uses fish oil and flax > oil and warns that taking excessive amounts for long periods may have > adverse side effects. The plasma lipid profile test can give an accurate > picture of the balance of EFAs that are present in the body at that time, > but the ratio of Omega 3 to Omega 6 can vary considerably according to body > requirements. SO this test should only be used as an indicator of current > levels. Bartosy's progress chart of fatigue is impressive, so on that > pint alone I feel this makes for good reading. > quote ends I have not read the book but it does sound interesting, especially in the light of our recent discussion on EFAs and fish oil. One interesting thing about this (other than the mention of potential adverse side effects) is the mention of using both fish oils and flax oils. For those who have been following the discussion on fish oils, their use by someone who has overcome CFS/ME won't be a surprise. The flax oil is also interesting because the composition of Flaxseed oil is richest in hard-to-find omega-3 EFAs. Flax seed oil is... Omega-3 58%, Omega-6 14%, Mono-unsaturated 19%, Poly-unsaturated 9%. (Flax seed oil should never be heated. Use in salad dressings and on top of cooked foods.) Flax Oil may well affect the 4:1 or 3.3:1 of EPA to DFA magic ratio! How it does, is still a little beyond my present comprehension of the topic. However I thought I will keep those of you interested in following the plot updated, if I track down any more relevant information and in the meantime I thought I would try and get hold of the book. Has anyone read it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 I am taking the Sears Labs Fish oil which is 800 EPA and 400 DHA. It is called pharmaceutical grade fish oil. The website for more information is http://www.sears.com/. Lynn > > I am watching all the postings regarding the oils with great > interest. > > > > Are the manufacturers producing the proof that their product is > Mercury Free? > > > > Kathy > > > Kathy, > > Here's what it says on the label of the TwinLab Mega Twin EPA Fish > Oil bottle: > > " Mega Twin EPA is the highest quality Omega-3 fish oil softgel > available. > > " It is derived from deep sea, cold water fish and contains more Omega- > 3 fatty acids (EPA & DHA) than many other brands. > > " Carefully screened to avoid toxic metals and chemicals, and does not > have vitamins A, D or methyl esters. " > > I'm not trying to push the TwinLab brand. It's just that I've looked > at a number of fish oils and this one has the highest EPA content of > those I've come across so far. (600 mg. EPA & 240 mg. DHA per > softgel cap.) > > If anyone comes across a product that looks better, I hope they'll > post about it. Thanks. > > According to what (?) just posted, the ratio of EPA to DHA > should be 4 to 1.(?) If indeed that's true (I don't know), then this > TwinLab product wouldn't quite measure up. > > It would be nice to know what product those docs who did the study > are using/recommending. > > E.B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 If they stock Nordic Naturals, you could ask if they have or could order the Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega EPA formula. Same company, but more EPA. It has 450 mg. of EPA, and 100 mg. of DHA per capsule. lindaj@... Fish Oils > This discussion of fish oils is getting way too technical for me. > FWIW, I went to Whole Foods last night and the girl who helped me > seem to know a lot about the right one to get. She recommended the > Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega 3 even tho she said the Twinlabs > product was OK too. It was just that the Twinlabs product was much > more expensive. Anyway, the breakdown for two softgels is EPA-360 mg > and DHA-240 mg. I know that is not optimal, but I assume it is > better than nothing. She said the Eskimo-3 was good too, but more > expensive. If anyone finds a better product, let me know. > > Mike C. > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 Yes , the EPA formula looks to have the *perfect* ratio of EPA to DHA. I went to their website and it looks like we can order directly from them. Thanks http://www.nordicnaturals.com/consumer/products_epa.html Mike C > If they stock Nordic Naturals, you could ask if they have or could order the > Nordic Naturals Ultimate Omega EPA formula. Same company, but more EPA. It > has 450 mg. of EPA, and 100 mg. of DHA per capsule. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 26, 2002 Report Share Posted September 26, 2002 FYI, the NN EPA formula is almost twice as expensive as the regular Omega 3 formula. Wonder if the EPA formula is worth it. Mike C. > Yes , the EPA formula looks to have the *perfect* ratio > of EPA to DHA. I went to their website and it looks like we > can order directly from them. Thanks > > http://www.nordicnaturals.com/consumer/products_epa.html > > Mike C Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 Mike- In reading the ingredients for the NN Omega 3, the ratio looks nowhere near 4:1. Maybe that's why is so much less $$?? Kathy Re: Fish Oils > FYI, the NN EPA formula is almost twice as expensive as the regular > Omega 3 formula. Wonder if the EPA formula is worth it. > > Mike C. > > > > > > Yes , the EPA formula looks to have the *perfect* ratio > > of EPA to DHA. I went to their website and it looks like we > > can order directly from them. Thanks > > > > http://www.nordicnaturals.com/consumer/products_epa.html > > > > Mike C > > > > > This list is intended for patients to share personal experiences with each other, not to give medical advice. If you are interested in any treatment discussed here, please consult your doctor. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 27, 2002 Report Share Posted September 27, 2002 Yes, Kathy, I am sure you are probably right. I am going to keep using the NN Omega 3 since I have had no negative side effects, and then try the EPA formula that is closer to the 4:1 ratio. When I do, I will let everyone know if I can tell the difference. Mike C. > Mike- > > In reading the ingredients for the NN Omega 3, the ratio looks nowhere near > 4:1. Maybe that's why is so much less $$?? > > Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 8, 2003 Report Share Posted April 8, 2003 Hi everybody--anyone know how you are supposed to take cod liver/fish oils? it says on the bottle to take 1 tsp building up to 1 tablespoon on an empty stomach. I thought I saw somewhere you are supposed to take it with milk or fruit juice in the middle of a meal so it stays in your stomach longer--is 2-3 tablespoons too much--I heard you need to take a lot of it to help arthritis etc. many thanks Kae Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2005 Report Share Posted August 30, 2005 Are you looking for CLO, EPA, DHA. Nordic Naturals is what I am using now - I got it from Nutricentre but I bet there are cheaper places. I have some tiny trial bottles of the Kirkman lemon lime flavoured CLO if you want to try one of them (bought them for travelling) Mandi We are currently using Biocare mega epa fish oils. they come ascapsules and are quite messy to cut open and syringe every day. Cananyone recommend fish oils that are not in capsules and easier toadminister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 > Hi, I used Eye-Q liquid which is high in epa: Per 5mil: 186 mg of EPA 58mg of DHA 20mg of GLA Vitamin at 3.2mg Can find in any Holland & Barrett store but quite pricey at £9.99 although recently they were reduced to £6.99. It has a lemon taste and my son (who is very fussy) takes it well. > > We are currently using Biocare mega epa fish oils. they come as > capsules and are quite messy to cut open and syringe every day. Can > anyone recommend fish oils that are not in capsules and easier to > administer. > > Thanks, > > Jane Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 It is the EPA I am after. I looked on the Brainchild site at the Nordic naturals (chewy capsules). I am not sure whether would have them in that format. Jane Re: fish oils Are you looking for CLO, EPA, DHA. Nordic Naturals is what I am using now - I got it from Nutricentre but I bet there are cheaper places. I have some tiny trial bottles of the Kirkman lemon lime flavoured CLO if you want to try one of them (bought them for travelling) Mandi We are currently using Biocare mega epa fish oils. they come ascapsules and are quite messy to cut open and syringe every day. Cananyone recommend fish oils that are not in capsules and easier toadminister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 31, 2005 Report Share Posted August 31, 2005 Hi Jane We were on Efalex capsules..you can get them from boots and are prescribable from a friendly GP if you can prove he is lacking in them. http://www.boots.com/shop/product_details.jsp?productid=1012803 Longish capsule you can pierce with a pin and then squeeze onto spoon. DHA 120MG EPA 26.8MG AA 10MG GLA 24MG THYME OIL 2MG NATURAL VIT E 20MG (30IU) also do lemon and lime flavoured liquids but we have the citrus issue ! Joanne Re: fish oils Are you looking for CLO, EPA, DHA. Nordic Naturals is what I am using now - I got it from Nutricentre but I bet there are cheaper places. I have some tiny trial bottles of the Kirkman lemon lime flavoured CLO if you want to try one of them (bought them for travelling) Mandi We are currently using Biocare mega epa fish oils. they come ascapsules and are quite messy to cut open and syringe every day. Cananyone recommend fish oils that are not in capsules and easier toadminister. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2006 Report Share Posted February 18, 2006 Thanks Natasa, I'll have a look at that, any ideas how else we can get the Omega's or is that a silly question, tested low on EFA's despite supplementing for yrs, I think fish oils was probably our first supp to talk of. Vicky x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 " ...> Anyone know if fish oil can be a problem for our kids? " Absolutely! Just read some writings by Willis Langford, who warns of dangers of using fish oils in autism - not sure why, there was so much to take in, will have to go back to it at some point. He talks about it in one of the articles here: http://www.ionablue.com/willis/ p.s. some very thought-provoking stuff there as well, as contradicts with some of what we take for granted in treating autism... Natasa Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 Just had another look at the website, the paper in question is entitled Autism One Presentation. Some very interesting things there also re liver detox pathways in autism. Natasa > > > " ...> Anyone know if fish oil can be a problem for our kids? " > > Absolutely! Just read some writings by Willis Langford, who warns of > dangers of using fish oils in autism - not sure why, there was so much > to take in, will have to go back to it at some point. He talks about it > in one of the articles here: > > http://www.ionablue.com/willis/ > > p.s. some very thought-provoking stuff there as well, as contradicts > with some of what we take for granted in treating autism... > > Natasa > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 You could try golden linseed available at Tescos. HTH MaddiganV@... wrote: Thanks Natasa, I'll have a look at that, any ideas how else we can get the Omega's or is that a silly question, tested low on EFA's despite supplementing for yrs, I think fish oils was probably our first supp to talk of. Vicky x Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2006 Report Share Posted February 19, 2006 --- flax seed oil, pumkin seed oil, and many types of nuts and seeds aswell as fish though they taste worse then the fish oil, i use eyeq it does distille the taste a little > > More observations lol, because Iv'e started Vit D and Calcium I decided > to drop the fish oils for a while, maybe just a glip but I think > just might be better without them, been doing them for so many years > and last yr he tested as low on the Omega's, are there any other good > sources of Omega's besides fish oils? > Anyone know if fish oil can be a problem for our kids? > Vicky > xx > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2006 Report Share Posted June 22, 2006 My MIL and FIL, born in early 1940s, said they used to give our CLO at public school, kids brought $.01 per capsule. Don't know how long they did that, though. Debi > > This article details the risk to fish stocks and a promising new algae supply. > > Ange > > > > http://www.commondreams.org/views06/0620-28.htm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Hi Eileen, My youngest uses the Omegabrite fish oil for kids. It comes in two flavors Orange Creme and Tutti Fritti. He tolerates the taste O.K. I give it to him straight and he has some juice or something handy to swallow it down with. I know others on this list use the Coromega brand which is a flavored emulsion that doesn't taste too bad. Each company has a site you can check out to determine EPA/DHA ratios and get questions answered. I believe you can even request a free sample of Coromega to see if your child likes it before you purchase it. We sampled it once at the local Wild Oats store. Good luck--Adrien > > Sorry to bug everyone again but what is the best tasting > liquid/chewable fish oil out there??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 Haven't tried but a couple and Coromega is my choice. It's a pudding- like texture. > > Sorry to bug everyone again but what is the best tasting > liquid/chewable fish oil out there??? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 19, 2006 Report Share Posted September 19, 2006 autumn71A@... wrote: > > Sorry to bug everyone again but what is the best tasting > liquid/chewable fish oil out there??? > > My kids take " Finest Pure Fish Oil " (with essential oil of orange) > made by Pharmax. We put it in a couple of ounces of lemonade or oj. > > Dina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Studies of HIV+ people show you need 5,000 mg of combined Fish Oils (EPA and DHA) per day to provide the same benefit that HIV negative people obtain from 3,000 mg or less. Solgar 700 has been independently tested by Consumer Labs as actually containing the full 700 mg per capsule claimed on the label. Most brands do not. http://www.consumerlab.com/results/index.asp >> I have High triglycerides around 750 and Cholesterol is about 215 but > my triglycerides continue to rise. I am on Fuzeon, Susitva, Kaletra > and take Gemfibrozil 600mg twice a day and Lescol/Fluvastatin 40mg once > a day. My counts were pretty normal before starting on these meds 3 > 1/2 years ago. I have been poz 21+ years my VL is undectable and T-> cells are around 800. I am working on the diet and have started > exercising again. My question is the VA (doctor) recommends that I > take some fish oils, they do not have these available in there > prescription plan So I will need to buy my own. Can anyone give me any > advice on how much and when to take these fish oils. Any advice would > be greatly appreciated. thanks all and good health to all. garyw> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2007 Report Share Posted April 22, 2007 Studies of HIV+ people show you need 5,000 mg of combined Fish Oils (EPA and DHA) per day to provide the same benefit that HIV negative people obtain from 3,000 mg or less. Solgar 700 has been independently tested by Consumer Labs as actually containing the full 700 mg per capsule claimed on the label. Most brands do not. http://www.consumerlab.com/results/index.asp >> I have High triglycerides around 750 and Cholesterol is about 215 but > my triglycerides continue to rise. I am on Fuzeon, Susitva, Kaletra > and take Gemfibrozil 600mg twice a day and Lescol/Fluvastatin 40mg once > a day. My counts were pretty normal before starting on these meds 3 > 1/2 years ago. I have been poz 21+ years my VL is undectable and T-> cells are around 800. I am working on the diet and have started > exercising again. My question is the VA (doctor) recommends that I > take some fish oils, they do not have these available in there > prescription plan So I will need to buy my own. Can anyone give me any > advice on how much and when to take these fish oils. Any advice would > be greatly appreciated. thanks all and good health to all. garyw> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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