Re: Anyone ever heard that IQ tests can be 30 points off for Aspies?

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My son's IQ has been tested a few times through the course of school (he's 13 now, 8th grade) and a couple of outside evaluations and he's never needed extra time to take the test or extra points added to it. His score has been consistent through the years too. I think needing extra time might be more related to a learning disability possibly or something else that might be exacerbated by Aspegers, but I wouldn't say it's b/c of Aspergers. I'm not a professional, but given our experiences, that's what I think.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: jmlrgs1870 <jmlrgs1870@...> Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 10:43:37 PMSubject: ( ) Anyone ever heard that IQ tests can be 30 points off for Aspies?

Has anyone ever heard that regular IQ testing doesn't work for anyone with AS--that you would need to add an additional 30 or so points for it to be accurate? My daughter was tested for Asperger Syndrome at a children's hospital and in the results they also included her IQ. The testing for everything only took an hour and a half, at most. I've since been told that the IQ portion should have taken hours because of the Asperger factor. They said that if someone with AS is tested accordingly, their IQ will result in an additional 30 or so points. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks! --Kari

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What you want to look at is the subscores not the overall IQ number.

That may be meaningless. My daughter has an above average subscore on reasoning

skills. Usually people judge each other's intelligence by how they reason and

their verbal skills. In my daughter's case

these two scores are above average.

But there are other aspects to IQ that affect academic learning.

My daughter's processing speed (another subtest) is way below

average. And she has a huge spread her reasoning is above average

but her processing is below average. Some AS kids process very slow

because of processing speed.

There are other parts to the test too. Working memory is another

deficit in some AS kids.

There is so much more to academic learning then IQ tests

uncover. There is also executive functions (attention and organization skills).

These tests are beyond an IQ test and are

costly to do but reveal the whole picture of IQ.

Most people when they think of IQ are judging reasoning subscores.

You can look at your child's reasoning subscore and get an idea

of IQ potential if other deficits were not present.

I hope this helps.

Pam

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> Has anyone ever heard that regular IQ testing doesn't work for anyone with

AS--that you would need to add an additional 30 or so points for it to be

accurate? My daughter was tested for Asperger Syndrome at a children's hospital

and in the results they also included her IQ. The testing for everything only

took an hour and a half, at most. I've since been told that the IQ portion

should have taken hours because of the Asperger factor. They said that if

someone with AS is tested accordingly, their IQ will result in an additional 30

or so points. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks! --Kari

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[Guest guest]

This sounds the same as my experience with my son, he is 6, on testing at school we were told he aged around 9 yrs old on the assessment, and that a lot of children have AS along with a learning disability, but in my sons case this did not appear to be the case.

So perhaps they need to adjust the times it AS is combined with something else.

From: MacAllister <smacalli@...>Subject: Re: ( ) Anyone ever heard that IQ tests can be 30 points off for Aspies? Date: Thursday, 26 November, 2009, 4:51

My son's IQ has been tested a few times through the course of school (he's 13 now, 8th grade) and a couple of outside evaluations and he's never needed extra time to take the test or extra points added to it. His score has been consistent through the years too. I think needing extra time might be more related to a learning disability possibly or something else that might be exacerbated by Aspegers, but I wouldn't say it's b/c of Aspergers. I'm not a professional, but given our experiences, that's what I think.

"Over-optimism is waiting for you ship to come in when you haven't sent one out."

From: jmlrgs1870 <jmlrgs1870 (DOT) com> Sent: Wed, November 25, 2009 10:43:37 PMSubject: ( ) Anyone ever heard that IQ tests can be 30 points off for Aspies?

Has anyone ever heard that regular IQ testing doesn't work for anyone with AS--that you would need to add an additional 30 or so points for it to be accurate? My daughter was tested for Asperger Syndrome at a children's hospital and in the results they also included her IQ. The testing for everything only took an hour and a half, at most. I've since been told that the IQ portion should have taken hours because of the Asperger factor. They said that if someone with AS is tested accordingly, their IQ will result in an additional 30 or so points. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks! --Kari

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much. I've been under the impression that with AS, the individuals

generally have an average to high IQ. I've been curious about this after I

learned our dd's IQ.

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> > Has anyone ever heard that regular IQ testing doesn't work for anyone with

AS--that you would need to add an additional 30 or so points for it to be

accurate? My daughter was tested for Asperger Syndrome at a children's hospital

and in the results they also included her IQ. The testing for everything only

took an hour and a half, at most. I've since been told that the IQ portion

should have taken hours because of the Asperger factor. They said that if

someone with AS is tested accordingly, their IQ will result in an additional 30

or so points. Does anyone know anything about this? Thanks! --Kari

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