Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 My son is 17 and also has contamination issues. He lost weeks during his sophmore year of school and wasn't able to attend the last 2 weeks of the year. We enrolled him in an online school. It has been great. This is his second year attending and it is going well. I don't know what state you live in so I am not sure what is available for you. But for us it was the best thing. My son also had issues of bringing his schoolwork home as it was contanimated. The on line school helps with that also as the books and school work never leave our house so he can touch everything. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 I think when people say not to get a 504, they are really saying an IEP is better, which it is. A 504 does work depending on the district. Have you looked into how many consecutive days your child has to miss before the district has to provide homebound instruction? If not, I would look into it. Good luck, Kim In a message dated 9/6/2006 10:23:58 PM Central Standard Time, g_mart1971@... writes: My question is: Can we homeschool him temporarily so he doesn't continue to fall more behind and then when he's ready to transition back into the classroom he can do so? It has been suggested by school officials that we get a 504 in place so he doesn't get in trouble for truancy----but then I heard a lot of you say it was better not to have the 504. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 We live in Arizona and Adam attends a Charter School called Arizona Distance Learning. It is a Charter School within the Public school system. You might want to check with the department of education in your state to see what they have to offer. Most of the classes come from Brigham Young University and from a few other Universities accoss the country. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 Thanks for your input. The tricky part is that our kids belong to a very small private school that doesn't have any special services----although I understand they still have to follow the rules so they're about to learn about it! My husband and I have a meeting with the Principal and Homeroom teacher tomorrow morning to talk about a homebound program. Thanks again, Glenda mnmomof1@... wrote: I think when people say not to get a 504, they are really saying an IEP is better, which it is. A 504 does work depending on the district. Have you looked into how many consecutive days your child has to miss before the district has to provide homebound instruction? If not, I would look into it. Good luck, Kim In a message dated 9/6/2006 10:23:58 PM Central Standard Time, g_mart1971@... writes: My question is: Can we homeschool him temporarily so he doesn't continue to fall more behind and then when he's ready to transition back into the classroom he can do so? It has been suggested by school officials that we get a 504 in place so he doesn't get in trouble for truancy----but then I heard a lot of you say it was better not to have the 504. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 6, 2006 Report Share Posted September 6, 2006 This helps a ton! I'm in Kansas. Can you tell me what online school you're using? Is it just something local for you? lorrieliz@... wrote: My son is 17 and also has contamination issues. He lost weeks during his sophmore year of school and wasn't able to attend the last 2 weeks of the year. We enrolled him in an online school. It has been great. This is his second year attending and it is going well. I don't know what state you live in so I am not sure what is available for you. But for us it was the best thing. My son also had issues of bringing his schoolwork home as it was contanimated. The on line school helps with that also as the books and school work never leave our house so he can touch everything. Hope this helps. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Thank you! Glenda lorrieliz@... wrote: We live in Arizona and Adam attends a Charter School called Arizona Distance Learning. It is a Charter School within the Public school system. You might want to check with the department of education in your state to see what they have to offer. Most of the classes come from Brigham Young University and from a few other Universities accoss the country. Hope this helps Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hi Glenda! I have not been able to respond much lately, but I do follow the posts and I really wanted to let you know my experience. I am a teacher in the state of Alabama. I have OCD as does my 9 year old daughter. You can do a couple of things in this situation. You can go to your school board and have your son declared " Homebound " . This means that the school is responsible for sending your child his classwork and supplying him with books and other activities. I know that he is concerned with contamination, so tell him that you can Clorox or Lysol his materials. So that he can touch them. (Clorox wipes are a God-send for me!) Homebounding also includes a teacher. The school board has a teacher on staff that all he/she does is visit children that are bound to their home for one reason or another. Some children have cancer, some mono, some OCD. The teacher should be more than capable to handle your son. The only thing that you will need to do for having him homebound is to get a letter from his doctor. That should not be hard. There will be some paper work involved, but its not that difficult. The other thing you can do is actually homeschool your son. In this case you need to find a homeschool association in your area and sign up. It's not really that hard, its just slightly expensive. It will cost you roughly one hundred dollars to join your homeschool association. Then you are responsible for purchasing books for your son's school year. However, you can go to your local library and ask them if they have a copy of your state requirements for school. More than likely they do. Then you can solely check out the books or materials and then you will not have to buy them. Another thing you can do for proper homeschooling that is not as expensive is visit your local bookstore and buy workbooks in the areas that you want to teach your son for his school year, or until he is able to attend school. I do believe in 504 (we solely call them IEP). This makes certain that the TEACHER, PRINCIPAL, and SCHOOL BOARD follow what you and your doctor find important for the education of your child. It does place your child in special education according to the school system however that is not really a bad thing. All three of my children are classified special ed because they have gifted services. Its a label and that bothers some people but truthfully, in this instance, no one will know that he is classified special ed. It will just help out with making certain that your son is getting the attention he needs. If you need anything, let me know. If I have created questions by my statements, just let me know also. I homeschooled my OCDer from Feb. until the end of school last year. I got good at it! Glenda ez <g_mart1971@...> wrote: I have a question for anyone who can advise. This is our first year ever that our 12yo son hasn't been able to attend school (contamination issues). He absolutely refuses and our doc keeps telling me not to worry about it. That once we get his OCD back in control we'll be able to integrate him back into the classroom. My question is: Can we homeschool him temporarily so he doesn't continue to fall more behind and then when he's ready to transition back into the classroom he can do so? It has been suggested by school officials that we get a 504 in place so he doesn't get in trouble for truancy----but then I heard a lot of you say it was better not to have the 504. I'm so confused about what we should do. He's very worried that he'll have to repeat 7th grade again and that's just added stress. He won't let me bring school work home from his current school in an effort to try to keep up because anything that comes from the school is " contaminated " . Today when I asked him how he was feeling his answer was, " Like a failure " . He wants to be in class so bad but he just keeps telling us he can't. By the way, we started the transition from Anafranil to Luvox today and that will take two weeks to make the switch completely. Hopefull we'll see some positive results soon. --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Hi Glenda! I have not been able to respond much lately, but I do follow the posts and I really wanted to let you know my experience. I am a teacher in the state of Alabama. I have OCD as does my 9 year old daughter. You can do a couple of things in this situation. You can go to your school board and have your son declared " Homebound " . This means that the school is responsible for sending your child his classwork and supplying him with books and other activities. I know that he is concerned with contamination, so tell him that you can Clorox or Lysol his materials. So that he can touch them. (Clorox wipes are a God-send for me!) Homebounding also includes a teacher. The school board has a teacher on staff that all he/she does is visit children that are bound to their home for one reason or another. Some children have cancer, some mono, some OCD. The teacher should be more than capable to handle your son. The only thing that you will need to do for having him homebound is to get a letter from his doctor. That should not be hard. There will be some paper work involved, but its not that difficult. The other thing you can do is actually homeschool your son. In this case you need to find a homeschool association in your area and sign up. It's not really that hard, its just slightly expensive. It will cost you roughly one hundred dollars to join your homeschool association. Then you are responsible for purchasing books for your son's school year. However, you can go to your local library and ask them if they have a copy of your state requirements for school. More than likely they do. Then you can solely check out the books or materials and then you will not have to buy them. Another thing you can do for proper homeschooling that is not as expensive is visit your local bookstore and buy workbooks in the areas that you want to teach your son for his school year, or until he is able to attend school. I do believe in 504 (we solely call them IEP). This makes certain that the TEACHER, PRINCIPAL, and SCHOOL BOARD follow what you and your doctor find important for the education of your child. It does place your child in special education according to the school system however that is not really a bad thing. All three of my children are classified special ed because they have gifted services. Its a label and that bothers some people but truthfully, in this instance, no one will know that he is classified special ed. It will just help out with making certain that your son is getting the attention he needs. If you need anything, let me know. If I have created questions by my statements, just let me know also. I homeschooled my OCDer from Feb. until the end of school last year. I got good at it! Glenda ez <g_mart1971@...> wrote: I have a question for anyone who can advise. This is our first year ever that our 12yo son hasn't been able to attend school (contamination issues). He absolutely refuses and our doc keeps telling me not to worry about it. That once we get his OCD back in control we'll be able to integrate him back into the classroom. My question is: Can we homeschool him temporarily so he doesn't continue to fall more behind and then when he's ready to transition back into the classroom he can do so? It has been suggested by school officials that we get a 504 in place so he doesn't get in trouble for truancy----but then I heard a lot of you say it was better not to have the 504. I'm so confused about what we should do. He's very worried that he'll have to repeat 7th grade again and that's just added stress. He won't let me bring school work home from his current school in an effort to try to keep up because anything that comes from the school is " contaminated " . Today when I asked him how he was feeling his answer was, " Like a failure " . He wants to be in class so bad but he just keeps telling us he can't. By the way, we started the transition from Anafranil to Luvox today and that will take two weeks to make the switch completely. Hopefull we'll see some positive results soon. --------------------------------- Get your email and more, right on the new .com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 mnmomof1@... wrote: > > I think when people say not to get a 504, they are really saying an > IEP is > better, which it is. A 504 does work depending on the district. Have > you looked > into how many consecutive days your child has to miss before the > district has > to provide homebound instruction? If not, I would look into it. Good > luck, Kim > > I would second this. Would he accept someone coming into your home to > do the homebound instruction? It was offered immediately by our > school when my DD couldn't go. Fortunately she responded well to the > medication she was given and she didn't need it, but I would look at > this option if he would allow it with his contamination issues. > > Dina > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2006 Report Share Posted September 7, 2006 Unfortunatey, he won't allow any schoolwork. In his mind anything to do with school is contaminated. I don't know how we're going to get past this. I almost feel like I need to start making him do something, even if it's not a major assignment or anything that requires a ton of concentration. I guess I'm thinking, start the exposure and continue to do so until he gets used to it----isn't that how the exposure therapy works? Also, we've just begun the two week process of weaning off Anafranil and weaning onto Luvox. Luvox worked for him many years ago so he's already got it in his mind that his OCD is going to get better soon. Hopefully that will work in our favor. Dina <dina.n.jones@...> wrote: mnmomof1@... wrote: > > I think when people say not to get a 504, they are really saying an > IEP is > better, which it is. A 504 does work depending on the district. Have > you looked > into how many consecutive days your child has to miss before the > district has > to provide homebound instruction? If not, I would look into it. Good > luck, Kim > > I would second this. Would he accept someone coming into your home to > do the homebound instruction? It was offered immediately by our > school when my DD couldn't go. Fortunately she responded well to the > medication she was given and she didn't need it, but I would look at > this option if he would allow it with his contamination issues. > > Dina > --------------------------------- All-new - Fire up a more powerful email and get things done faster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 > I really feel like I need to homeschool him. We are doing a lot biomedically right now and I just feel like I should be monitoring him more and not to mention that he gets stomach aches and headaches and I who wants to work under those conditions...especially an autistic 5 year old. I understand he needs to learn, and Ethan loves to do puzzles and color and all that kinder stuff, but when he has a stomach or head ache he just wants to lay down while it passes. > Anyone out there in this boat or can give encouragement....I need it! I homeschool all four of my kids, it has been great for us. Here is my homeschool site section. I would first recommend you contact HSLDA, for legal info http://www.danasview.net/parent2.htm#homeschool Dana Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Yes, I homeschooled for about 8 years or so. My sons are now 19 and 21. They are still home and I sometimes still feel a little like a homeschooling parent. I found homeschooling way easier than wrestling with the school system. And it allowed my sons to get far healthier than I ever expected. I figured my oldest would just always have to work around being sick all the time but being home helped him stop being sick all the time because he could rest as much as he needed, whenever he needed, and he ate better and I could take care of him. My standard speech for folks who want to homeschool but are intimidated by it: One legal way to homeschool under California law is to hire a tutor for 3 hours a day. And one book (or article) indicated that most public school kids spend only one to two hours on academics during the school day. The rest of the time is spent on PE or recess, roll call, lunch, standing in line, getting organized, changing classrooms, etc. So please do not think you will have to crack the whip 8 hours a day in order to educate your child. The intensity of one-on-one learning means that is not necessary. You can also customize things for your unique child to a degree that a teacher with 20 or 30 students cannot do. Good luck with this. Michele http://www.healthgazelle.org http://www.kidslikemine.org http://www.solanorail.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 ----- Original Message ----- From: Kate Dorn Does anyone here homeschool. We've had problem after problem with my son's kindergarten teacher ( and she also had him when he was 3). Problems like letting other kids hit and kick him, no one watching him while at recess while he stands close to a gate that he can open right next to a busy street, nobody bothering to make him keep his mittens on and his hands got severe ===>I wouldn't recommend anyone put up with any of the above. I don't recommend home schooling past the age of 8, I think kids' worlds have to be large for optimal development. But regardless of age, if you can't find an acceptable alternative, then I'd opt for homeschooling any day over neglectful, abusive schools.===> I've personally seen teachers aides grab kids by the back of the shirts and pick them up off the ground if they've misbehaved. (don't truly know if the parents allowed this or not , so not sure what to think) ===>Our little one goes to an absolutely excellent public school. I have spent a lot of time in the school and while I've never seen any teacher or principal pick a kid up by the back of the shirt, if a child *is* misbehaving and verbal messages are not getting through, they first try several teachers converging on the child at one time and if that fails, they are *not* gentle. I personally agree with this, discipline must be maintained so that learning can take place. And although I don't agree with abuse, if a child knows the consequences of their actions and chooses to misbehave...they have chosen the consequences. I've just lost it! Everyday when I pick him up I ask " Did Ethan take him enzymes? " ....they reply with......No he didn't want to. After numerous times of telling them to withhold the food until he takes them. He takes them within seconds when this is done at home. And everyday it is the same thing! I really feel like I need to homeschool him. We are doing a lot biomedically right now and I just feel like I should be monitoring him more and not to mention that he gets stomach aches and headaches and I who wants to work under those conditions...especially an autistic 5 year old. I understand he needs to learn, and Ethan loves to do puzzles and color and all that kinder stuff, but when he has a stomach or head ache he just wants to lay down while it passes. Anyone out there in this boat or can give encouragement....I need it! Thanks!!! Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Kate, I homeschool my oldest, 15, NT, and my youngest, 5, ASD. The older one asked me to because his school was so bad. That sounds like the situation you're in now. For my youngest, our curriculum is RDI and I don't plan on sending him to school until I think the school can do a better overall job than I can. That will probably be quite some time. I do have help with him--a young, enthusiastic, clever girl with no training. Her help makes things much easier. It might interest you to know that apparently many colleges and universities in the States actively recruit homeschooled kids, Harvard being one of those places. Homeschooling makes biomed so very much easier. I don't waste time arguing with school officials, ds isn't getting attacked by other kids (we had this too during the couple brief visits he made to a school trying to appease the people who hold the funds--a mistake I regret). As said time isn't wasted. No one will know your kid better than you. There is a lot of support for parents doing this (provided by other parents). In my old school district I was still entitled to the special funding for my son, although that required a huge battle because the school officials don't want to follow the law if it means them losing the money. There are many, many positives to homeschooling. Anita > > Does anyone here homeschool. We've had problem after problem with my son's kindergarten teacher ( and she also had him when he was 3). Problems like letting other kids hit and kick him, no one watching him while at recess while he stands close to a gate that he can open right next to a busy street, nobody bothering to make him keep his mittens on and his hands got severe frost bite. I've personally seen teachers aides grab kids by the back of the shirts and pick them up off the ground if they've misbehaved. (don't truly know if the parents allowed this or not , so not sure what to think) >  I've just lost it! Everyday when I pick him up I ask " Did Ethan take him enzymes? "     ....they reply with......No he didn't want to.  After numerous times of telling them to withhold the food until he takes them. He takes them within seconds when this is done at home. And everyday it is the same thing! >  I really feel like I need to homeschool him. We are doing a lot biomedically right now and I just feel like I should be monitoring him more and not to mention that he gets stomach aches and headaches and I who wants to work under those conditions...especially an autistic 5 year old. I understand he needs to learn, and Ethan loves to do puzzles and color and all that kinder stuff, but when he has a stomach or head ache he just wants to lay down while it passes. >  Anyone out there in this boat or can give encouragement....I need it! > > Thanks!!! > Kate > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Kate, I take it one step further. I have two boys on the spectrum and I UNSCHOOL them at home. It has really woken me up to how amazing they are. It's a slightly different philosophy than homeschooling. I found when my boys came home, they healed faster. We are truly a joyful family again, and when I see the genuine smiles on my kids faces, watch their joy of discovery, I know I'm doing the right thing. Tears are a rarity now and joy seems to follow us around. Childhood should NOT be something you have to recover from. Some great articles and sites: http://www.livingjoyfully.ca/anneo/I_Am_What_I_Am.htm http://sandradodd.com/special/autism http://www.alfiekohn.org/teaching/edweek/bguti.htm Write me offlist if you have more questions (see above email address in the From field). Best Miriam http://dancingfoward.blogspot.com Kate Dorn wrote: > > > Does anyone here homeschool. We've had problem after problem with my > son's kindergarten teacher ( and she also had him when he was 3). > Problems like letting other kids hit and kick him, no one watching him > while at recess while he stands close to a gate that he can open right > next to a busy street, nobody bothering to make him keep his mittens on > and his hands got severe frost bite. I've personally seen teachers > aides grab kids by the back of the shirts and pick them up off the > ground if they've misbehaved. (don't truly know if the parents allowed > this or not , so not sure what to think) > I've just lost it! Everyday when I pick him up I ask " Did Ethan take > him enzymes? " ....they reply with......No he didn't want to. After > numerous times of telling them to withhold the food until he takes them. > He takes them within seconds when this is done at home. And everyday > it is the same thing! > I really feel like I need to homeschool him. We are doing a lot > biomedically right now and I just feel like I should be monitoring him > more and not to mention that he gets stomach aches and headaches and I > who wants to work under those conditions...especially an autistic 5 year > old. I understand he needs to learn, and Ethan loves to do puzzles and > color and all that kinder stuff, but when he has a stomach or head ache > he just wants to lay down while it passes. > Anyone out there in this boat or can give encouragement....I need it! > > Thanks!!! > Kate > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Hi, I homeschool my 2 youngest (we have 7) who have learning problems. One is dyslexic and one severely autistic. They are so much calmer not having to deal with aggressive kids in the classroom and the general sensory assault that occurs at school. And I don't have to deal with the " assault " at IEP meetings. I made the decision when I read this " feel good " article in my local paper about our special ed dept., and how great it was that all these kids had " opened a store " at the school. The high point of the story was that all the kids by " graduation from high school " could put a price sticker on these candles they were selling and everyone was applauding them. The teachers felt this was a " valuable life skill " and somehow they were linking this thought to the idea that it made the kids " more indepentdent " in the real world. Maybe I'm just being cynical, but I've never seen a help wanted ad for someone to stick on price tags these days, so I figured I couldn't do much worse than that. At least my kids are happy, and I'm not being pressured to medicate them! My older one learns much better than my youngest, but the school system is so overwhelmed these days, I'm not sure how much they're learning at school anyway! What I find is a huge difference in learning ability fom one day to another depending on how they feel. Homeschooling allows for a " bad math day " or " bad spelling day " with out my kids seeing themselves as failures. Plus I can make sure they're not eating anything that's not within their regimen Good luck! (Danasview site is aweome! Do check it out!!!!!) > > I really feel like I need to homeschool him. We are doing a lot > biomedically right now and I just feel like I should be monitoring him > more and not to mention that he gets stomach aches and headaches and I > who wants to work under those conditions...especially an autistic 5 > year old. I understand he needs to learn, and Ethan loves to do > puzzles and color and all that kinder stuff, but when he has a stomach > or head ache he just wants to lay down while it passes. > > Anyone out there in this boat or can give encouragement....I need it! > > > I homeschool all four of my kids, it has been great for us. > > Here is my homeschool site section. I would first recommend you > contact HSLDA, for legal info > > http://www.danasview.net/parent2.htm#homeschool > > Dana > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Hi Kate, we homeschool too. We tried out kindergarten at our local public school for our learning disabled daughter, and while it wasn't terrible, we felt we could meet our daughter's needs (academically and otherwise) so much better through homeschooling. It hasn't always been easy, I will be honest, but it is rewarding in the end, and there have been so many unexpected blessings. For example, I have met many wonderful women through homeschooling, who have become lifelong friends - I've never felt more connected in my community and beyond as I do now. Our daughter (and NT sister, who started this year) is so much more self confident, she is intellectually curious, and she has made real friends. As far as biomed goes, we can do supps and AC protocol at our convenience, and I can monitor her diet more easily. I started out much more structured than we are now, and I have learned to be more patient when it comes to where I think our daughter should be academically. The past couple of years, I have been very concerned about her writing - she loved to illustrate stories but refused to write them. Just recently, she decided she wanted to do a " chapter book " of Sleeping Beauty, fully illustrated. Had I pushed and pushed, out of anxiety, earlier, perhaps it wouldn't have happened in this way, rather beautifully, it seems to me. Both of our girls now spend hours working on stories, art projects, etc, and have no need for tv to babysit! Imagine! I never thought they would become so able to entertain themselves. Of course the core academics are a part of their lives as well, and I won't tell you it's always easy (math,for example), but as I said earlier, it pays off in ways you would least expect! Take care, olivia > > > > > > Does anyone here homeschool. We've had problem after problem with my > > son's kindergarten teacher ( and she also had him when he was 3). > > Problems like letting other kids hit and kick him, no one watching him > > while at recess while he stands close to a gate that he can open right > > next to a busy street, nobody bothering to make him keep his mittens on > > and his hands got severe frost bite. I've personally seen teachers > > aides grab kids by the back of the shirts and pick them up off the > > ground if they've misbehaved. (don't truly know if the parents allowed > > this or not , so not sure what to think) > > I've just lost it! Everyday when I pick him up I ask " Did Ethan take > > him enzymes? " ....they reply with......No he didn't want to. After > > numerous times of telling them to withhold the food until he takes them. > > He takes them within seconds when this is done at home. And everyday > > it is the same thing! > > I really feel like I need to homeschool him. We are doing a lot > > biomedically right now and I just feel like I should be monitoring him > > more and not to mention that he gets stomach aches and headaches and I > > who wants to work under those conditions...especially an autistic 5 year > > old. I understand he needs to learn, and Ethan loves to do puzzles and > > color and all that kinder stuff, but when he has a stomach or head ache > > he just wants to lay down while it passes. > > Anyone out there in this boat or can give encouragement....I need it! > > > > Thanks!!! > > Kate > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 We unschool as well. I withdrew them the Friday before school was going to start and we went to an unschooling conference the next Thursday. It was amazing! I also downloaded A.S.Neil's book on Summerhill and watched the CBBC series on youtube. It gives a lot of info. on democratic schools. Most of the unschooling kids we hang out with are ecclectic/eccentric so we fit right in. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Kate, I homeschooled my older son for 2 years (2nd & 3rd grade) with the ABEKA curriculum and we had a great experience. I then bought the pre-K curriculum for the younger ASD child and he didn't want anything to do with the cute little games and worksheets for another 2 years (now, at 6 years old, he is interested . I could not homeschool my younger one. He needs the social experiences, and I just couldn't get him to do things with me...sad but true, I would rather someone else teach him because I just get frustrated trying to get into his world when he is not interested. Having a break from each other works well for us, when he comes home he is ready to spend some time with me sitting on my lap, reading books or coloring. I couldn't have gotten him to write or color, his school aides did hand over hand for months and he is finally tracing lines and liking to color - WOW I let them know I SOOOO much appreciate all their hard work. My older child had a bad teacher this year and I almost pulled him out to homeschool again, but instead I transferred him to the school I am working at and he is doing GREAT. SO happy I did. He is also much more happy and feels he is doing well in school. My suggestion is that you go with your instinct. Try another school or pull him out - whatever you think would be best. My best to you, > > Does anyone here homeschool. We've had problem after problem with my son's kindergarten teacher ( and she also had him when he was 3). Problems like letting other kids hit and kick him, no one watching him while at recess while he stands close to a gate that he can open right next to a busy street, nobody bothering to make him keep his mittens on and his hands got severe frost bite. I've personally seen teachers aides grab kids by the back of the shirts and pick them up off the ground if they've misbehaved. (don't truly know if the parents allowed this or not , so not sure what to think) >  I've just lost it! Everyday when I pick him up I ask " Did Ethan take him enzymes? "     ....they reply with......No he didn't want to.  After numerous times of telling them to withhold the food until he takes them. He takes them within seconds when this is done at home. And everyday it is the same thing! >  I really feel like I need to homeschool him. We are doing a lot biomedically right now and I just feel like I should be monitoring him more and not to mention that he gets stomach aches and headaches and I who wants to work under those conditions...especially an autistic 5 year old. I understand he needs to learn, and Ethan loves to do puzzles and color and all that kinder stuff, but when he has a stomach or head ache he just wants to lay down while it passes. >  Anyone out there in this boat or can give encouragement....I need it! > > Thanks!!! > Kate > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 We are in canada and homeschool our oldest who is 5. I really love it. He is ahead in some areas so we run through those quickly so he doesn't get bored and focus on other areas (like drawing and printing) that he needs more. It takes an hour at most and I know he is learning what he needs rather than what the teacher does or doesn't have time for. When he is sick, we take a break. I don't have to worry that he isn't learning something. We work from modules that the school board provides as part of its distance learning program. It also covers our internet fees, provides a quarterly amount of funds for extracurricular activities (we do gymnastics) and they organize events for the kids to all get together. This winter will be skiing every wednesday. If there is a program like this available to you, I would highly recommend it. I would prefer his learning to be even more individualized to his interests but I myself need the organizational side taken care of so it works perfectly for us Kes -- In , " Anita " <mysuperteach@...> wrote: > > Kate, > > I homeschool my oldest, 15, NT, and my youngest, 5, ASD. The older > one asked me to because his school was so bad. That sounds like the > situation you're in now. For my youngest, our curriculum is RDI and > I don't plan on sending him to school until I think the school can do > a better overall job than I can. That will probably be quite some > time. I do have help with him--a young, enthusiastic, clever girl > with no training. Her help makes things much easier. > > It might interest you to know that apparently many colleges and > universities in the States actively recruit homeschooled kids, > Harvard being one of those places. > > Homeschooling makes biomed so very much easier. I don't waste time > arguing with school officials, ds isn't getting attacked by other > kids (we had this too during the couple brief visits he made to a > school trying to appease the people who hold the funds--a mistake I > regret). As said time isn't wasted. No one will know your > kid better than you. There is a lot of support for parents doing > this (provided by other parents). In my old school district I was > still entitled to the special funding for my son, although that > required a huge battle because the school officials don't want to > follow the law if it means them losing the money. There are many, > many positives to homeschooling. > > Anita > > > > > > > > Does anyone here homeschool. We've had problem after problem with > my son's kindergarten teacher ( and she also had him when he was 3). > Problems like letting other kids hit and kick him, no one watching > him while at recess while he stands close to a gate that he can open > right next to a busy street, nobody bothering to make him keep his > mittens on and his hands got severe frost bite. I've personally seen > teachers aides grab kids by the back of the shirts and pick them up > off the ground if they've misbehaved. (don't truly know if the > parents allowed this or not , so not sure what to think) > >  I've just lost it! Everyday when I pick him up I ask " Did Ethan > take him enzymes? "     ....they reply with......No he didn't want > to.  After numerous times of telling them to withhold the food until > he takes them. He takes them within seconds when this is done at > home. And everyday it is the same thing! > >  I really feel like I need to homeschool him. We are doing a lot > biomedically right now and I just feel like I should be monitoring > him more and not to mention that he gets stomach aches and headaches > and I who wants to work under those conditions...especially an > autistic 5 year old. I understand he needs to learn, and Ethan loves > to do puzzles and color and all that kinder stuff, but when he has a > stomach or head ache he just wants to lay down while it passes. > >  Anyone out there in this boat or can give encouragement....I need > it! > > > > Thanks!!! > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 Kes, Where in Canada are you? I'm in Ontario and might want to do this once my 3 year old is ready for school. I had no idea the school board provided this. My daughter is on the very long waiting list for ABA and I might not even put her in it, I'm not sure right now. I would love to know more about this. Thanks > > > > > > Does anyone here homeschool. We've had problem after problem with > > my son's kindergarten teacher ( and she also had him when he was 3). > > Problems like letting other kids hit and kick him, no one watching > > him while at recess while he stands close to a gate that he can open > > right next to a busy street, nobody bothering to make him keep his > > mittens on and his hands got severe frost bite. I've personally seen > > teachers aides grab kids by the back of the shirts and pick them up > > off the ground if they've misbehaved. (don't truly know if the > > parents allowed this or not , so not sure what to think) > > >  I've just lost it! Everyday when I pick him up I ask " Did Ethan > > take him enzymes? "     ....they reply with......No he didn't want > > to.  After numerous times of telling them to withhold the food until > > he takes them. He takes them within seconds when this is done at > > home. And everyday it is the same thing! > > >  I really feel like I need to homeschool him. We are doing a lot > > biomedically right now and I just feel like I should be monitoring > > him more and not to mention that he gets stomach aches and headaches > > and I who wants to work under those conditions...especially an > > autistic 5 year old. I understand he needs to learn, and Ethan loves > > to do puzzles and color and all that kinder stuff, but when he has a > > stomach or head ache he just wants to lay down while it passes. > > >  Anyone out there in this boat or can give encouragement....I need > > it! > > > > > > Thanks!!! > > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 17, 2008 Report Share Posted December 17, 2008 > > Kate, I take it one step further. I have two boys on the spectrum and I > UNSCHOOL them at home. It has really woken me up to how amazing they > are. It's a slightly different philosophy than homeschooling. I found > when my boys came home, they healed faster. We are truly a joyful > family again, and when I see the genuine smiles on my kids faces, watch > their joy of discovery, I know I'm doing the right thing. Tears are a > rarity now and joy seems to follow us around. > > Childhood should NOT be something you have to recover from. > > We try the unschooling approach too, although we go to an Independent Home Study program that's part of our school district. We meet with the teachers once a week and get a folder with assignments to complete at home. That way you can tailor the program to your child's needs and do things at your own pace. We tried to have our child attend kindergarten but it was a bad experience for us. On the first day of school my child was nowhere to be found when I came to pick her up. A very scary situation indeed and one that I found out not to be unusual. There were other factors in our decision to homeschool but the lack of oversight was a big one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Marilia, You said, " We tried to have our child attend kindergarten but it was a bad experience for us. On the first day of school my child was nowhere to be found when I came to pick her up. " We had this same experience when picking up our son when he was in kindergarden. The first time he was missing he just decided to go play with another class. His teacher had 30 students and didn't have a clue where he was. The second episode was when he had a substitute teacher who took the class out for recess. It was late fall and they forgot him outside. He stayed outside until I came to pick him up...no hat or coat on and it was late fall...very cold. Both incidents scared me half to death. I never prayed so hard in my life! It IS the scariest feeling in not knowing where your child is! Needless to say we homeschooled him for the next 2 1/2 yrs. He is now 10 yrs. old/ 4th grade and attends a Montesouri school. The first day of school I lectured him that he doesn't leave his class when they are out together. I reminded him of the past scary incidence when he was missing from his class in kindergarden. His response to me was, " Mom that was when I was young and foolish! " . > > > > Kate, I take it one step further. I have two boys on the spectrum > and I > > UNSCHOOL them at home. It has really woken me up to how amazing they > > are. It's a slightly different philosophy than homeschooling. I > found > > when my boys came home, they healed faster. We are truly a joyful > > family again, and when I see the genuine smiles on my kids faces, > watch > > their joy of discovery, I know I'm doing the right thing. Tears are > a > > rarity now and joy seems to follow us around. > > > > Childhood should NOT be something you have to recover from. > > > > > We try the unschooling approach too, although we go to an Independent > Home Study program that's part of our school district. We meet with > the teachers once a week and get a folder with assignments to complete > at home. That way you can tailor the program to your child's needs and > do things at your own pace. We tried to have our child attend > kindergarten but it was a bad experience for us. On the first day of > school my child was nowhere to be found when I came to pick her up. A > very scary situation indeed and one that I found out not to be > unusual. There were other factors in our decision to homeschool but > the lack of oversight was a big one. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 Interesting thread on homeschooling. Appears that there are many pros and cons to consider. The pros as I see it are that homeschooling is convenient with BioMed; good for individualistic attention and good for kids who don't mix well with other children to the point that they are bullied, all salient points. I would never have sent ours to school if she wasn't NT enough to fit in. I realize that many schools fall short of even basic acceptable education and care. But I both agree and disagree that Mothers' know their children best. While I agree with that statement basically, I also know how difficult it is for Mothers' to be objective. What Mother isn't biased when it comes to their child? I don't know one, myself included. I have learned many valuable pieces of information about our little one from capable educators that have added to our ability to continue to make her well. Things I would have never known if she had not gone to school. And I have also learned a lot of valuable information by watching her with other NT kids. And, again, we have a good school, with good teachers, so we have seen her make progress far beyond what she would have at home. My point being that each parent has to make the best choice available for their particular child, keeping in mind what the pros and cons are of each school situation. Re: [ ] Homeschool? ----- Original Message ----- From: Kate Dorn Does anyone here homeschool. We've had problem after problem with my son's kindergarten teacher ( and she also had him when he was 3). Problems like letting other kids hit and kick him, no one watching him while at recess while he stands close to a gate that he can open right next to a busy street, nobody bothering to make him keep his mittens on and his hands got severe ===>I wouldn't recommend anyone put up with any of the above. I don't recommend home schooling past the age of 8, I think kids' worlds have to be large for optimal development. But regardless of age, if you can't find an acceptable alternative, then I'd opt for homeschooling any day over neglectful, abusive schools.===> I've personally seen teachers aides grab kids by the back of the shirts and pick them up off the ground if they've misbehaved. (don't truly know if the parents allowed this or not , so not sure what to think) ===>Our little one goes to an absolutely excellent public school. I have spent a lot of time in the school and while I've never seen any teacher or principal pick a kid up by the back of the shirt, if a child *is* misbehaving and verbal messages are not getting through, they first try several teachers converging on the child at one time and if that fails, they are *not* gentle. I personally agree with this, discipline must be maintained so that learning can take place. And although I don't agree with abuse, if a child knows the consequences of their actions and chooses to misbehave...they have chosen the consequences. I've just lost it! Everyday when I pick him up I ask " Did Ethan take him enzymes? " ....they reply with......No he didn't want to. After numerous times of telling them to withhold the food until he takes them. He takes them within seconds when this is done at home. And everyday it is the same thing! I really feel like I need to homeschool him. We are doing a lot biomedically right now and I just feel like I should be monitoring him more and not to mention that he gets stomach aches and headaches and I who wants to work under those conditions...especially an autistic 5 year old. I understand he needs to learn, and Ethan loves to do puzzles and color and all that kinder stuff, but when he has a stomach or head ache he just wants to lay down while it passes. Anyone out there in this boat or can give encouragement....I need it! Thanks!!! Kate Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2008 Report Share Posted December 18, 2008 we are in BC. Its called Discovery here. not sure if ontario has the same thing or something different. I have to make a call to them today anyways so I'll ask if he knows about other provinces Kes > > > > > > > > Does anyone here homeschool. We've had problem after problem > with > > > my son's kindergarten teacher ( and she also had him when he was > 3). > > > Problems like letting other kids hit and kick him, no one watching > > > him while at recess while he stands close to a gate that he can > open > > > right next to a busy street, nobody bothering to make him keep his > > > mittens on and his hands got severe frost bite. I've personally > seen > > > teachers aides grab kids by the back of the shirts and pick them > up > > > off the ground if they've misbehaved. (don't truly know if the > > > parents allowed this or not , so not sure what to think) > > > >  I've just lost it! Everyday when I pick him up I ask " Did > Ethan > > > take him enzymes? "     ....they reply with......No he didn't want > > > to.  After numerous times of telling them to withhold the food > until > > > he takes them. He takes them within seconds when this is done at > > > home. And everyday it is the same thing! > > > >  I really feel like I need to homeschool him. We are doing a > lot > > > biomedically right now and I just feel like I should be monitoring > > > him more and not to mention that he gets stomach aches and > headaches > > > and I who wants to work under those conditions...especially an > > > autistic 5 year old. I understand he needs to learn, and Ethan > loves > > > to do puzzles and color and all that kinder stuff, but when he has > a > > > stomach or head ache he just wants to lay down while it passes. > > > >  Anyone out there in this boat or can give encouragement....I > need > > > it! > > > > > > > > Thanks!!! > > > > Kate > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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