S. Boulardii

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In a message dated 2/16/2000 3:17:32 AM Eastern Standard Time,

onelist writes:

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Sue wrote:

" I was interested to see that Dr. Cheney put you on sacharmyces

boulardii--a " good " yeast. I read in a supplement catalog that it increases

lactic acid in the gut.

Since lactic acid is one of the things CFIDS bodies seem to have trouble

getting rid of, when their muscles produce it, I'm wondering if it could

cause similar problems in the gut. "

Carol wrote: " Sue, I really don't know. Cheney recommended it, and he

explained about the lactic acid in the muscles after my first bicycle stress

test in 1996, so if it were a problem, I think he would be aware of it. But

if any knows differently, please let me know!! "

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Carol & Sue,

I am also taking the S. Boulardii. I have been taking it for almost 2

months. My understanding of Cheney's reason for prescribing it is that we

lack friendly bacteria in the intestines and simply supplementing with them

is not enough, because our disturbed gut environment will not allow them to

grow. The S. Boulardii is supposed to be altering the gut environment.

Causing it to be temporarily more acidic, which is what the friendly bacteria

need to grow. Taking the S. Boulardii, is temporary, and is supposed to be

discontinued after one bottle. By then, supposedly the friendly bacteria

have had a chance to become established.

I have not had any trouble with my stomach from taking it. In fact, I think

it has improved things.

Also, Carol, you mentioned Cheney recommending taking it 2 capsules 2x per

day. I was started out with 1 capsule 1x per day, and then increased to 2

capsules 1x per day. I wonder why your dose is different then mine?

Jane

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Carol, Sue,

Where do you get the Sacharmyces bouldarii ?

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n,

> re diarrhea not Mg - I found by accident that peppermint tea (Menthe?!

> from memory?? to you) really truly definitely improves my diarrhea. This

> is a genuine cause/effect in me, not one of my maybes, so it has about a

5%

> chance of doing the same for you I guess. (I mean given our CFIDS

> variabilities).

OK, will try.

I've seen

> this probiotic mentioned elsewhere as an effective gut-problem

> resolver. Don't know how you buy it though.

Saccharomyces boulardii is the one thing that is easy to buy in France!

They/we call it " Ultra levure " (super yeast) and it is rx by regular doctors

especially when they rx abx. I had read some studies from the ones in Sue's

post and I was aware of how it seemed very useful not only for improving

diarrhea but also to improve immune function BUT here it always comes in

lactose and yes you guessed it lactose gives me diarrhea! Maybe once my

overall bacterial load is significantly lower (and I feel it already is but

not quite enough yet), I might be able to tolerate lactose again, but not

yet, so it's a bit of a vicious circle.

Still, it's a very interesting lead to follow.

Nelly

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, I think it depends what you are taking it for. Dr. Natasha told us to take it continuously, along with our Bio-Kult. (She actually recommended a second probiotic, available in the UK, that contains S. Boulardii along with some other things, but I didn't want to be mail-ordering from Britain all the time, and she said just taking the S. Boulardii would be okay too.) I think, for purposes of gut ecology, it's okay to take it continuously. Our timeline for the Bio-Kult and S. Boulardii is 6 months at full dose, then we will scale back to maintenance.

wrote:Do you take this all the time? Or just for a period of time?I heard that you take it 3 weeks on, 3 weeks off and then three weeks on again, and that's it.