raw foods

[Guest guest]

i just read that while doing the SCD diet your suppose to be eating your fruits

and veggies

cooked and we have still been eating raw fruits and veggies, how do you know

when its ok to

start eating raw fruits and veggies? i'm going to start cooking all of our

fruits and veggies

now, except banana's, but how long am i suppose to be doing this? i hope i

didn't mess

anything up because we haven't been doing this, we never really went through the

'stages' of

the diet.

thanks

sam

[Guest guest]

Sam,

Why except banana?? My new favorite dessert is banana pan fried in a

bit of coconut oil! Yum.

I started cooking fruit for myself and my older daughter. The

pecanbread website lists the stages and when to add back in raw fruit.

I think it is like most other things, you try it and see how you feel.

If you are improving well, you may just go with what you are doing.

samadamfamily wrote:

i just read that while doing the SCD diet your suppose to be

eating your fruits and veggies

cooked and we have still been eating raw fruits and veggies, how do you

know when its ok to

start eating raw fruits and veggies? i'm going to start cooking all of

our fruits and veggies

now, except banana's, but how long am i suppose to be doing this? i

hope i didn't mess

anything up because we haven't been doing this, we never really went

through the 'stages' of

the diet.

thanks

sam

[Guest guest]

" My new favorite dessert is banana pan fried in a bit of coconut oil! "

Oh, my gosh! Me too!! Isn't it the BEST?!? I also sprinkle some

shredded coconut on the banana slices. Delicious!

K.

[Guest guest]

>get some good quality lard and fry the banana in that...delicious!

> " My new favorite dessert is banana pan fried in a bit of coconut oil! "

>

> Oh, my gosh! Me too!! Isn't it the BEST?!? I also sprinkle some

> shredded coconut on the banana slices. Delicious!

>

> K.

>

[Guest guest]

> >get some good quality lard and fry the banana in that...delicious!

> > " My new favorite dessert is banana pan fried in a bit of coconut oil! "

> >

> > Oh, my gosh! Me too!! Isn't it the BEST?!? I also sprinkle some

> > shredded coconut on the banana slices. Delicious!

> >

> > K.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I'd say make your own.... I'm going to be making one to try out of

hemp seed, hemp protein powder, walnuts/and or almond butter and

dates...and maybe some raw honey... will let you know how it tastes...

I've just discovered the benefits of hemp and you can buy all of this

on amazon.com .. I'm making these for my sister in stage 4

pancreatic....

On Sep 4, 2010, at 12:36 PM, VGammill wrote:

> Some people such as myself grab most meals standing, at the computer,

> driving, etc. Does anyone know of any raw food " power bar " or the

> equivalent that doesn't have sugar and isn't mostly peanut butter?

[Guest guest]

,

Check out Lara Bars. I haven't looked at the ingredients in a long time, so I

can't remember if they will fit your requirements or not. I think they have a

lot of fruit juice in them, so maybe not. They used to give me heart burn, so I

haven't eaten them in a very long time.

ar

>

> Some people such as myself grab most meals standing, at the computer,

> driving, etc. Does anyone know of any raw food " power bar " or the

> equivalent that doesn't have sugar and isn't mostly peanut butter?

>

[Guest guest]

<<Some people such as myself grab most meals standing, at the computer,

driving, etc. Does anyone know of any raw food " power bar " or the

equivalent that doesn't have sugar and isn't mostly peanut butter?>>

Lara bar is usually just the fruit and nuts. No sugar added. Or you can

make your own and take.

_Click here: Kirby Von Scrumptious: Make your own Lara Bars!_

(http://kirbyvonscrumptious.blogspot.com/2009/04/make-your-own-lara-bars.html)

homemade lara-type bars

makes 1 bar

1 Tablespoon dates, pureed

3 Tablespoons dry ingredients (nuts, dried fruits, coconut, oats, etc.)

pit dates and whir in a food processor or mash by hand until they're one

sticky mass. this will be the base, the " glue " that will hold it all

together. to this base, add about 3 Tablespoons of finely diced dried

ingredients

- the nuts of your choice (almonds, cashews, pecans, hazlenut, etc.), dried

fruit, oats, spices, etc. with your hands mix it all together and form

into a tight ball. roll this ball into a rope and then pat it flat into a

rectangle. tightly wrap in plastic wrap (the wrapping will help the bar hold

it's shape as you further mold it) and apply pressure to the top using a flat

surface - a cutting board works well. to shape the sides you can take two

knives and apply pressure to opposite ends of the bars. refrigerate wrapped.

for larger batches shape into a larger square, chill and cut into desired

bar shapes with a very sharp knife.

some tasty combinations:

cashew: 1 Tablespoon dates + 3 Tablespoons cashews

almond coconut: 1 Tablespoon dates +2 Tablespoons almonds + 1 Tablespoon

unsweetened coconut

almond spice: 1 Tablespoon dates + 3 Tablespoons almonds + 1/4 teaspoon

each: cinnamon & nutmeg + 1/8 teaspoon ground ginger.

cranberry coconut: 2 Tablespoons minced dried cranberries, 1 Tablespoon

unsweetened coconut

Green smoothies would be easy also. Just freeze and take with you. It will

be thawed but still very cold by lunch time.

You could make your own trail mix with dehydrated fruit chips, goji

berries, nuts etc.

Peanutbutter and Jelly sandwich is easy. Use Ezekial bread, almond butter,

you can make your own jam with honey. Some raw cookies, bag of grapes to

snack on. Maybe a container of raw chocolate pudding and some coconut water.

Kathy

[Guest guest]

On the subject of animal protein and diet, I was wondering if you have had a

chance to read " The China Study " and it's views on animal protein and the

relationship to cancer, heart disease, obesity etc? If you have, would you mind

sharing your opinion?

Thank you for all of your input... you are an inspiration to many!

Patti from San Diego

[Guest guest]

I would also appreciate other opinions from the group about the affects of a low

protien diet as mentioned in " The China Study " ... and it's affects on existing

cancers or likelygood of getting cancer...

Thanks!

Patti

[Guest guest]

Hi Patti,

Long-time vegetarian here. I'm actually allergic to most forms of protein -

animal and vegetable.

I still developed cancer.

I think The China Study is very, very flawed. Though the information is good,

it is biased. Reading the book makes it sound as if all you need to do is

become vegan and you will live a long, healthy life. There is no mention of

diseases that vegetarians may develop and gives a false sense of security to

those who are vegan.

Vegans still develop cancer and disease.

ar

>

> I would also appreciate other opinions from the group about the affects of a

low protien diet as mentioned in " The China Study " ... and it's affects on

existing cancers or likelygood of getting cancer...

>

> Thanks!

> Patti

>

[Guest guest]

Greetings,

Thank you for the honest words. I find most statements about meat to be

totally biased. Meat is not all created the same, 100% forage based

animals on organic pasture, with no antibiotics and hormones are very

different from factory farmed animals. With animal protein, what the

animal ate and how it was raised makes a huge difference in how healthy

the end product is.

Vegetables can be very unhealthy, depending on how they are grown.

Growers that dump chemical after chemical on the garden, that kill the

soil food web, pick green and transport long distances do not produce

anything that I would call food.

Eating food that was raised in the most healthy way, with respect for

the soil food web, with respect for the natural requirements of whatever

is being raised is a better way to eat. It is not what you eat, but how

the food was raised that is important.

Bright Blessings,

Garth & Kim

www.TheRoseColoredForest.com

[Guest guest]

I would read this for a better understanding.

Minger Refutes the China Study Once and For All

http://www.westonaprice.org/blogs/denise-minger-refutes-the-china-study-\

once-and-for-all.html

" We offered Dr. the opportunity to respond within the pages of

Wise Traditions, but after intially accepting the offer and continuing a

lengthy private dialogue with me over email, he later rejected the offer

and published a mostly ad hominem attack on me the following year on the

VegSource.com website. "

Peer review is an important part of real science, but isn't

interested in this, only attacking the critic. Not a good sign!

[Guest guest]

You wrote: " I think The China Study is very, very flawed "

Could you tell us where and why ?

This is a serious accusation for a man like Dr. .

I can understand your frustration but to be a vegatarian is not a guarantee of

never getting cancer.

Why ?

60% of vegetarians drink and eat dairy , so their intake of animal protein is

just a mere 10% below the intake of a meat eater.

Most vegetarians eat non organic whole food, very poor in antioxidant and

exposing themselves as much as meat eaters if not more to dangerous chemicals.

Most vegetarians drink GMO soya and soya manufactured products.

What I like to call " vegetarian junk food " exposing themselves to vast amount

of Insulin like growth hormone factor one .. the perfect hormone to grow a

cancer.

Vegetarians often eat manufactured products of very poor quality like

tortillas, flat bred, corn chips etc.

Vegetarians usually eat a lot of sweets too. When I was in India, I was amazed

to see so many obese in the highest casts who were actually vegetarians.

Then come the life style and I have seen enough vegetarians overweight to see

what excess of the wrong carbs can do..

" arlynsg " wrote:

>

> Hi Patti,

> Long-time vegetarian here. I'm actually allergic to most forms of protein -

animal and vegetable. I still developed cancer.

>

> I think The China Study is very, very flawed. Though the information is good,

it is biased. Reading the book makes it sound as if all you need to do is

become vegan and you will live a long, healthy life. There is no mention of

diseases that vegetarians may develop and gives a false sense of security to

those who are vegan.

> Vegans still develop cancer and disease.

> ar

" patimus98 " <patimus98@> wrote:

> >

> > I would also appreciate other opinions from the group about the affects of a

low protien diet as mentioned in " The China Study " ... and it's affects on

existing cancers or likelygood of getting cancer...

> > Thanks!

> > Patti

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I read three times the " The China Study " and yes, this is the most important

book on nutrition that anyone with a cancer should read..

Another very practical. beautiful book to keep at hand at any time and to be

use everyday is Foods to Fight Cancer: Essential foods to help prevent cancer by

Beliveau.

I just checked on amazon and they had one second hand for $10

If you don't like to read, Dr. T. Colin just came out with a DVD on the

subject of Nutrition and cancer.

My personal recommendation to anyone with a cancer or with a disease of

affluence will be to enroll anywhere in the nation in a CHIP program ..

See : http://www.chiphealth.com/index.php

It seems that it is a program for heart disease but it is more about Nutrition

as a medicine

I will start soon giving this program where I live but I am far from everywhere

so you can probably find something closer to your location

Good reading !!!

[Guest guest]

What you must understand :

With the arrival of the Organic label, many people wrongly assumed that the

terms " organic " and " natural " were interchangeable, failing to understand the

strict regulations required to raise certified organic beef.

The USDA defines " natural " beef as all meats raised for human consumption

without additives and minimally processed. Natural Beef producers may choose not

to use antibiotics or growth-promoting hormones, but there is no third-party

verification system required by the USDA. Beef from factory feed lots can be

labeled natural, according to the USDA's definition.

[Guest guest]

I am interested in the cost of the CHIP program. Lots of info on their site but

nothing about $$. That usually means pricey. Is it reimbursed by any

insurance??

Any info would be great. Thanks.

From: shaman_urban

Sent: Monday, September 06, 2010

I read three times the " The China Study " and yes, this is the most important

book on nutrition that anyone with a cancer should read..

Another very practical. beautiful book to keep at hand at any time and to be

use everyday is Foods to Fight Cancer: Essential foods to help prevent cancer by

Beliveau.

I just checked on amazon and they had one second hand for $10

If you don't like to read, Dr. T. Colin just came out with a DVD on

the subject of Nutrition and cancer.

My personal recommendation to anyone with a cancer or with a disease of

affluence will be to enroll anywhere in the nation in a CHIP program ..

See : http://www.chiphealth.com/index.php

It seems that it is a program for heart disease but it is more about Nutrition

as a medicine

I will start soon giving this program where I live but I am far from

everywhere so you can probably find something closer to your location

Good reading !!!

[Guest guest]

Doc,

I know one from kirkland products but can't remember the name because I tried it

2 years ago.

________________________________

From: VGammill <vgammill@...>

Sent: Sat, 4 September, 2010

Some people such as myself grab most meals standing, at the computer,

driving, etc. Does anyone know of any raw food " power bar " or the

equivalent that doesn't have sugar and isn't mostly peanut butter?