Aspergers or Emotionally Dysfunctional?????

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OMG My sons Drs diagnosed him with Aspergers 9 months ago, he is 14. He has

been homeschooled, now its time to send him to a private school.Our school

district feels he is ED NOT Aspergers and wants to redo his IEP. I refused and

want his new school ( who has an Autism Director to do the IEP ) Bottom line-

grant money used for Autism but NOT ED? Can anyone enlighten me here. Is ED

and Aspergers that closely related that 2 different Drs and agencys diagnosis my

son differently?

Cheri

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School cannot diagnosis besides IEP is driven by services not diagnosis.Remember Special Ed services is not a location.Sent from my Palm Pre on the Now Network from SprintOn Apr 12, 2011 11:22 PM, UMgirl <chevinsea@...> wrote:

OMG My sons Drs diagnosed him with Aspergers 9 months ago, he is 14. He has been homeschooled, now its time to send him to a private school.Our school district feels he is ED NOT Aspergers and wants to redo his IEP. I refused and want his new school ( who has an Autism Director to do the IEP ) Bottom line- grant money used for Autism but NOT ED? Can anyone enlighten me here. Is ED and Aspergers that closely related that 2 different Drs and agencys diagnosis my son differently?

Cheri

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I am going through almost the same thing! School district wants to label him ED

not AU eventhough we have Aspergers diagnosis. IEE said that " in order for a

child to have Aspergers they HAVE to have a Pragmatic Language Disorder " ! Is

that true? My child has every and all symptoms of aspergers, but IEE did not

find Pragmatic Language Disorder.

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been homeschooled, now its time to send him to a private school.Our school

district feels he is ED NOT Aspergers and wants to redo his IEP. I refused and

want his new school ( who has an Autism Director to do the IEP ) Bottom line-

grant money used for Autism but NOT ED? Can anyone enlighten me here. Is ED

and Aspergers that closely related that 2 different Drs and agencys diagnosis my

son differently?

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My daughter is diagnosed pdd nos but school dismissed that and labeled her ed. I

was not happy about it but it got her an iep so I let it go. I beleieve she is

aspergers. Because I have official diagnosis of pdd nos that allowed us to apply

for grant money for summer activities.

That is our story.

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district feels he is ED NOT Aspergers and wants to redo his IEP. I refused and

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grant money used for Autism but NOT ED? Can anyone enlighten me here. Is ED

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Only a medical doctor can diagnose your child. The school district many not

agree with a diagnosis that you have from a medical doctor and they may want

your child to see the doctor that the district contracts with for medical

services. It would be difficult to believe that a licensed physician would not

do his/her best to get an accurate diagnosis as his/her professional reputation

and license is all they have to promote their future business. After the school

districts doctor comes up with the diagnosis, you have the right to an appeal by

a third doctor if you do not agree.

Robin said it well, below. The IEP is about the child's needs/requirements to

get a FAPE, nothing more, nothing less. It has nothing to do with what school

your child eventually attends. If the school district says otherwise, make sure

to document what was said in a formal letter (with a signature confirmation from

the post office) and state how many days you will wait for a written response to

your letter before taking it up with the appropriate county or state agency.

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been homeschooled, now its time to send him to a private school.Our school

district feels he is ED NOT Aspergers and wants to redo his IEP. I refused and

want his new school ( who has an Autism Director to do the IEP ) Bottom line-

grant money used for Autism but NOT ED? Can anyone enlighten me here. Is ED

and Aspergers that closely related that 2 different Drs and agencys diagnosis my

son differently?

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You know, I am not sure if it is required but it takes a very skilled ST to properly assess pragmatics.... Honestly, at this point i wouldnt care what the label was if we could just get my daughter help!! Carolyn From: Diane <garnerdd51@...>Sent: Wednesday, April 13, 2011 12:08 AM Subject: Re: ( ) Aspergers or Emotionally Dysfunctional????? I am going through almost the same thing! School district wants to label him ED not AU eventhough we have Aspergers diagnosis. IEE said that "in order for a child to have Aspergers they HAVE to have a Pragmatic Language Disorder"! Is that true? My child has every and all symptoms of aspergers, but IEE did not find Pragmatic Language Disorder. > > > & nbsp; > > > > > > > > > > > OMG My sons Drs diagnosed him with Aspergers 9 months ago, he is 14. He has been homeschooled, now its time to send him to a private school.Our school district feels he is ED NOT Aspergers and wants to redo his IEP. I refused and want his new school ( who has an Autism Director to do the IEP ) Bottom line- grant money used for Autism but NOT ED? Can anyone enlighten me here. Is ED and Aspergers that closely related that 2 different Drs and agencys diagnosis my son differently? > > Cheri >[The entire original message is not included]

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We definitely found that not all STs are familiar with the nuances of pragmatic

language. In fact, when we initially had our son evaluated by the school

district, they wanted to list pragmatic language as one of his strengths. I

insisted that they remove that from the paperwork, because I knew it was

incorrect. Well, we then had a private SLP eval, and she definitely noted

pragmatic language deficiencies. She just rolled her eyes when I told her that

the school's ST thought pragmatics were a strength! In our son's case, the

problems include things like asking for help when needed (a problem that the

first ST did notice, yet she did not recognize that it was related to pragmatic

language!), odd phrasing of sentences, asking me to answer questions that people

ask him, saying goodbye, and proper use/reading of body language. That last one

is big - I don't think that all STs even realize that the ability to read

non-verbal language is part of pragmatics. If you see any of these types of

problems in your child, you might want to request another IEE or get your own

speech eval with someone who truly understands pragmatics.

Good luck,

Bridget

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been homeschooled, now its time to send him to a private school.Our school

district feels he is ED NOT Aspergers and wants to redo his IEP. I refused and

want his new school ( who has an Autism Director to do the IEP ) Bottom line-

grant money used for Autism but NOT ED? Can anyone enlighten me here. Is ED and

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IEE said that "in order for a child to have Aspergers they HAVE to have a Pragmatic Language Disorder"! THIS IS NOT TRUE. It's never been a criteria in our child's diagnosis or services grid at school. --geneva

Here is the diagnostic criteria for Asperger's: from Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders: DSM IV (emphasis via capital letters added by geneva) http://www.autreat.com/dsm4-aspergers.html(I) Qualitative impairment in social interaction, as manifested by AT LEAST TWO of the following: (A) marked impairments in the use of multiple nonverbal behaviors such as eye-to-eye gaze, facial expression, body posture, and gestures to regulate social interaction( failure to develop peer relationships appropriate to developmental level© a lack of spontaneous seeking to share enjoyment, interest or achievements with other people, (e.g.. by a lack of showing, bringing, or pointing out objects of interest to other people)(D) lack of social or emotional reciprocity

(II) Restricted repetitive & stereotyped patterns of behavior, interests and activities, as manifested by AT LEAST ONE of the following:

(A) encompassing preoccupation with one or more stereotyped and restricted patterns of interest that is abnormal either in intensity or focus( apparently inflexible adherence to specific, nonfunctional routines or rituals© stereotyped and repetitive motor mannerisms (e.g. hand or finger flapping or twisting, or complex whole-body movements)(D) persistent preoccupation with parts of objects(III) The disturbance causes CLINICALLY SIGNIFICANT impairments in social, occupational, or other important areas of functioning.(IV) There is NO CLINICALLY SIGNIFICANT general delay in language (E.G. single words used by age 2 years, communicative phrases used by age 3 years)(V) There is NO CLINICALLY SIGNIFICANT delay in cognitive development or in the development of age-appropriate self help skills, adaptive behavior (other than in social interaction) and curiosity about the environment in childhood.(VI) Criteria ARE NOT MET for another specific Pervasive Developmental Disorder or Schizophrenia."