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Oh man,,,,,hugs to you.

I've got a 12 yr old daughter who suffers from anxiety.....and we've always seen the similarities btwn her and our oldest son, but she is not dx'd with AS.

She is scary sometimes with her "freakouts".

I'm not trying to minimize what you're going though, Lord knows, but I wonder if most gals are scary-angry????

Robin

"Normal is just

a cycle

on a washing machine....."

From: patricia <Zazoo81198@...>Subject: ( ) I am so done.Aspergers Treatment Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 6:11 PM

I don't know where else to turn besides people who know what I am feeling right now. I have a aspie daughter who is 12 and three other daughters who are NT. Madeline hit puberty and lord have mercy it's been a whirlwind. Her behaviors have worsened and It's just draining me. Tonight we were at girl scouts and my younger daughter still had her meeting after my older daughters. I haven't felt well and my husband and I were going to trade places. After telling my older dd she was coming home with me she had a massive meltdown. Changing anything in the lineup just sends her into a major meltdown. Normally they aren't that big and they can be handled on the QT. Tonight..nope..it was bad. I am still waiting for the knock on the door from the cops that I know another mom probably called on me. She screamed, kicked the van door and the window...Sometimes I just wish life was soo much more simple.

Mom to my 4 girlsMadeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza"You are the TRIP I did not takeYou are the PEARLS I cannot buyYou are the blue Italian LAKEYOU are my piece of foreign SKY"---Anne ----

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we were in the same position as you and we ended up having to take my ds to the emergency room. Thank goodness we were close to Lucille Children's Hospital at Stanford because they specialize in asperger/autistic kids and we ended up in a psych evaluation program and it has been wonderful. My 12 year old son, is on a very low dose of zoloft and a very very low dose of risperdone, which is a new drug that they have found to be benificial to autistic kids to help keep emotions in check. now, my son was so depressed, wouldnt go to school, stayed in his pjs all day and was very combative. hitting, kicking, biting, it was his way or the wrath of him. with in 4 hours of taking the risperdone, he started to smile again, hug me, and participate in life again. i am not saying it is a wonder drug, because he

still has outbursts and tantrums, but they are not the kicking battles of last month. we are very happy and so is he, and thanks us for helping him. every child reacts differently to situations and drugs, but it has made our life so much better. deborah Sycamore Art StudiosSycamore Art SchoolDeborah GustlinGraphic & Web DesignArt classes for K-12www.sycamoreartstudios.comwww.sycamoreartschool.comHome: 408-710-0892 Business: 408-710-6070From: and/or Robin Lemke <jrisjs@...> Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 7:37:30 PMSubject: Re: ( ) I am so done.

Oh man,,,,,hugs to you.

I've got a 12 yr old daughter who suffers from anxiety.....and we've always seen the similarities btwn her and our oldest son, but she is not dx'd with AS.

She is scary sometimes with her "freakouts".

I'm not trying to minimize what you're going though, Lord knows, but I wonder if most gals are scary-angry????

Robin

"Normal is just

a cycle

on a washing machine....."

From: patricia <Zazoo81198@...>Subject: ( ) I am so done.Aspergers Treatment Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 6:11 PM

I don't know where else to turn besides people who know what I am feeling right now. I have a aspie daughter who is 12 and three other daughters who are NT. Madeline hit puberty and lord have mercy it's been a whirlwind. Her behaviors have worsened and It's just draining me. Tonight we were at girl scouts and my younger daughter still had her meeting after my older daughters. I haven't felt well and my husband and I were going to trade places. After telling my older dd she was coming home with me she had a massive meltdown. Changing anything in the lineup just sends her into a major meltdown. Normally they aren't that big and they can be handled on the QT. Tonight..nope..it was bad. I am still waiting for the knock on the door from the cops that I know another mom probably called on me. She screamed, kicked the van door and the window...Sometimes I just wish life was soo much more simple.

Mom to my 4 girlsMadeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza"You are the TRIP I did not takeYou are the PEARLS I cannot buyYou are the blue Italian LAKEYOU are my piece of foreign SKY"---Anne ----

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That is tough, my 13 year old has been having more aggressive

behaviors toward me in the evening too. Her stress is high by

the end of the day and so many little things set her off. I

have always noticed this more in the winter, as my daughter

any way seems more fatigued and prone to more illnesses.

I tried last winter a positive reinforcement behavior plan but

when she still escalated, I was at a loss what to say or do.

I have been seeing a therapist that treats people with

major emotional regulation problems and the therapist

offered this strategy " I know you like it best when things don't

change and I didn't mean to upset you by doing this, I know

you can stop yelling and calm down. I didn't mean to upset you. "

I think it does help a little rather than yelling to be quiet,

or rather than say you don't earn a privelege (which makes

my daughter say she doesn't care and tends to make her mader).

I think this stratgy is the way we want them to think,

we want them to realize we didn't want to hurt them and

they can calm down. My daughter hits me too especially

after school, she holds herself together nicely at school.

Then wow! This strategy is what I am using now.

At home if I get out of her sight she calms down quickly often.

The car is the hardest most frustrating place I think.

Take care, I know how stressful this is.

Pam

athei

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> I don't know where else to turn besides people who know what I am feeling

right now. I have a aspie daughter who is 12 and three other daughters who are

NT. Madeline hit puberty and lord have mercy it's been a whirlwind. Her

behaviors have worsened and It's just draining me. Tonight we were at girl

scouts and my younger daughter still had her meeting after my older daughters. I

haven't felt well and my husband and I were going to trade places. After telling

my older dd she was coming home with me she had a massive meltdown. Changing

anything in the lineup just sends her into a major meltdown. Normally they

aren't that big and they can be handled on the QT. Tonight..nope..it was bad. I

am still waiting for the knock on the door from the cops that I know another mom

probably called on me. She screamed, kicked the van door and the

window...Sometimes I just wish life was soo much more simple.

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> Mom to my 4 girls

> Madeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza

> " You are the TRIP I did not take

> You are the PEARLS I cannot buy

> You are the blue Italian LAKE

> YOU are my piece of foreign SKY "

> ---Anne ----

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Hi ,Hugs to you! AS and PMS do not mix well at all. My daughter is also 12 and she has tantrums and meltdowns as well. I know what you are going through and wish I could offer some help. I am still trying to figure it out! I just TG that mine exhibits all these behaviors at home and not at school.. The doctor told me justto have lots of patience. She is starting to obsess with Temple Grandin now.Which is great! She wants to write to Temple and see she will be her pen pal! She wants me to purchase her a squeeze machine as well! Tomorrow is a new day! Hopefully, a brighter one! Elinor From: patricia <Zazoo81198@...>Aspergers Treatment Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 6:11:18 PMSubject: ( ) I am so done.

I don't know where else to turn besides people who know what I am feeling right now. I have a aspie daughter who is 12 and three other daughters who are NT. Madeline hit puberty and lord have mercy it's been a whirlwind. Her behaviors have worsened and It's just draining me. Tonight we were at girl scouts and my younger daughter still had her meeting after my older daughters. I haven't felt well and my husband and I were going to trade places. After telling my older dd she was coming home with me she had a massive meltdown. Changing anything in the lineup just sends her into a major meltdown. Normally they aren't that big and they can be handled on the QT. Tonight..nope..it was bad. I am still waiting for the knock on the door from the cops that I know another mom probably called on me. She screamed, kicked the van door and the window...Sometimes I just wish life was soo much more simple.

Mom to my 4 girls

Madeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza

"You are the TRIP I did not take

You are the PEARLS I cannot buy

You are the blue Italian LAKE

YOU are my piece of foreign SKY"

---Anne ----

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Try using an index card. Worked for us. Place time, place etc on it. Very important for my ASPIE son to know what's happening next and everything needs a beginning and an end. Hope this simple change does a world of change like it did for us.-- Sent from my Palm PreOn Jan 20, 2011 21:08, patricia <Zazoo81198@...> wrote:

I don't know where else to turn besides people who know what I am feeling right now. I have a aspie daughter who is 12 and three other daughters who are NT. Madeline hit puberty and lord have mercy it's been a whirlwind. Her behaviors have worsened and It's just draining me. Tonight we were at girl scouts and my younger daughter still had her meeting after my older daughters. I haven't felt well and my husband and I were going to trade places. After telling my older dd she was coming home with me she had a massive meltdown. Changing anything in the lineup just sends her into a major meltdown. Normally they aren't that big and they can be handled on the QT. Tonight..nope..it was bad. I am still waiting for the knock on the door from the cops that I know another mom probably called on me. She screamed, kicked the van door and the window...Sometimes I just wish life was soo much more simple.

Mom to my 4 girls

Madeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza

"You are the TRIP I did not take

You are the PEARLS I cannot buy

You are the blue Italian LAKE

YOU are my piece of foreign SKY"

---Anne ----

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I usually keeps activan on hand for my daugther freek out that happens without reason.

It helps

( ) I am so done.Aspergers Treatment Date: Thursday, January 20, 2011, 6:11 PM I don't know where else to turn besides people who know what I am feeling right now. I have a aspie daughter who is 12 and three other daughters who are NT. Madeline hit puberty and lord have mercy it's been a whirlwind. Her behaviors have worsened and It's just draining me. Tonight we were at girl scouts and my younger daughter still had her meeting after my older daughters. I haven't felt well and my husband and I were going to trade places. After telling my older dd she was coming home with me she had a massive meltdown. Changing anything in the lineup just sends her into a major meltdown. Normally they aren't that big and they can be handled on the QT. Tonight..nope..it was bad. I am still waiting for the knock on the door from the cops that I know another mom probably called on me. She screamed, kicked the van door and the window...Sometimes I just wish life was soo much more simple.Mom to my 4 girlsMadeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza"You are the TRIP I did not takeYou are the PEARLS I cannot buyYou are the blue Italian LAKEYOU are my piece of foreign SKY"---Anne ----

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Sympathies to you ! Four daughters??? Anyway, just wanted to share that I have an Aspie 16 year old who is horrible and I mean horrible during her period.. It was like that bad nne Barr episode... The doctor prescribed Prozac for the emotional part and Seasonique as a hormone suppressant. It is a type of birth control pill that goes for 90days and during that time she has no period, then, has one for a week, and we start all over. I know many people have conflicting feelings about birth control, but this was a desperate situation. We just finished the first 90 day cycle and it was great to have the break. When she had the week of "cycle" I was reminded of why we did this.. Ms. Witch.. Since she is also epileptic and on meds for that, it is not really complete birth control, so no

guilt for encouraging sexual behavior, but if she ever does show and interest in sex, I will gladly increase the dose..From: patricia <Zazoo81198@...>Aspergers Treatment Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 7:11:18 PMSubject: ( ) I am so done.

I don't know where else to turn besides people who know what I am feeling right now. I have a aspie daughter who is 12 and three other daughters who are NT. Madeline hit puberty and lord have mercy it's been a whirlwind. Her behaviors have worsened and It's just draining me. Tonight we were at girl scouts and my younger daughter still had her meeting after my older daughters. I haven't felt well and my husband and I were going to trade places. After telling my older dd she was coming home with me she had a massive meltdown. Changing anything in the lineup just sends her into a major meltdown. Normally they aren't that big and they can be handled on the QT. Tonight..nope..it was bad. I am still waiting for the knock on the door from the cops that I know another mom probably called on me. She screamed, kicked the van door and the window...Sometimes I just wish life was soo much more simple.

Mom to my 4 girls

Madeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza

"You are the TRIP I did not take

You are the PEARLS I cannot buy

You are the blue Italian LAKE

YOU are my piece of foreign SKY"

---Anne ----

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Oh, and we did have a visit from the police, and a short time for her in the Crisis Center during one of her meltdowns due to a girl at school telling her to shut up... It has become old hat for us.. We don't abuse her, and couldn't if we wanted to. She is strong and we are old..and on coumadin etc..It kind of goes with the rest of the drama of AS... Few school staffs understand that if she says her life is not worth living, she is not suicidal. She means," I am in a situation I need to get out of right now. I know this phrase gets me out of school."From: sandee C <irsandee@...> Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 6:33:38 PMSubject: Re: ( ) I am so done.

Sympathies to you ! Four daughters??? Anyway, just wanted to share that I have an Aspie 16 year old who is horrible and I mean horrible during her period.. It was like that bad nne Barr episode... The doctor prescribed Prozac for the emotional part and Seasonique as a hormone suppressant. It is a type of birth control pill that goes for 90days and during that time she has no period, then, has one for a week, and we start all over. I know many people have conflicting feelings about birth control, but this was a desperate situation. We just finished the first 90 day cycle and it was great to have the break. When she had the week of "cycle" I was reminded of why we did this.. Ms. Witch.. Since she is also epileptic and on meds for that, it is not really complete birth control, so no

guilt for encouraging sexual behavior, but if she ever does show and interest in sex, I will gladly increase the dose..From: patricia <Zazoo81198@...>Aspergers Treatment Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 7:11:18 PMSubject: ( ) I am so done.

I don't know where else to turn besides people who know what I am feeling right now. I have a aspie daughter who is 12 and three other daughters who are NT. Madeline hit puberty and lord have mercy it's been a whirlwind. Her behaviors have worsened and It's just draining me. Tonight we were at girl scouts and my younger daughter still had her meeting after my older daughters. I haven't felt well and my husband and I were going to trade places. After telling my older dd she was coming home with me she had a massive meltdown. Changing anything in the lineup just sends her into a major meltdown. Normally they aren't that big and they can be handled on the QT. Tonight..nope..it was bad. I am still waiting for the knock on the door from the cops that I know another mom probably called on me. She screamed, kicked the van door and the window...Sometimes I just wish life was soo much more simple.

Mom to my 4 girls

Madeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza

"You are the TRIP I did not take

You are the PEARLS I cannot buy

You are the blue Italian LAKE

YOU are my piece of foreign SKY"

---Anne ----

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Sandee,

Hugs to you.

Robin

"Normal is just

a cycle

on a washing machine....."

From: sandee C <irsandee@...>Subject: Re: ( ) I am so done. Date: Friday, January 21, 2011, 5:41 PM

Oh, and we did have a visit from the police, and a short time for her in the Crisis Center during one of her meltdowns due to a girl at school telling her to shut up... It has become old hat for us.. We don't abuse her, and couldn't if we wanted to. She is strong and we are old..and on coumadin etc..It kind of goes with the rest of the drama of AS... Few school staffs understand that if she says her life is not worth living, she is not suicidal. She means," I am in a situation I need to get out of right now. I know this phrase gets me out of school."

From: sandee C <irsandee@...> Sent: Fri, January 21, 2011 6:33:38 PMSubject: Re: ( ) I am so done.

Sympathies to you ! Four daughters??? Anyway, just wanted to share that I have an Aspie 16 year old who is horrible and I mean horrible during her period.. It was like that bad nne Barr episode... The doctor prescribed Prozac for the emotional part and Seasonique as a hormone suppressant. It is a type of birth control pill that goes for 90days and during that time she has no period, then, has one for a week, and we start all over. I know many people have conflicting feelings about birth control, but this was a desperate situation. We just finished the first 90 day cycle and it was great to have the break. When she had the week of "cycle" I was reminded of why we did this.. Ms. Witch.. Since she is also epileptic and on meds for that, it is not really complete birth control, so no guilt for encouraging sexual behavior, but if she ever does show and interest

in sex, I will gladly increase the dose..

From: patricia <Zazoo81198@...>Aspergers Treatment Sent: Thu, January 20, 2011 7:11:18 PMSubject: ( ) I am so done.

I don't know where else to turn besides people who know what I am feeling right now. I have a aspie daughter who is 12 and three other daughters who are NT. Madeline hit puberty and lord have mercy it's been a whirlwind. Her behaviors have worsened and It's just draining me. Tonight we were at girl scouts and my younger daughter still had her meeting after my older daughters. I haven't felt well and my husband and I were going to trade places. After telling my older dd she was coming home with me she had a massive meltdown. Changing anything in the lineup just sends her into a major meltdown. Normally they aren't that big and they can be handled on the QT. Tonight..nope..it was bad. I am still waiting for the knock on the door from the cops that I know another mom probably called on me. She screamed, kicked the van door and the window...Sometimes I just wish life was soo much more simple.

Mom to my 4 girlsMadeline, Cayla, Arabella, & Vincenza"You are the TRIP I did not takeYou are the PEARLS I cannot buyYou are the blue Italian LAKEYOU are my piece of foreign SKY"---Anne ----

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