Re: Mad as hell & not going to take it anymore!!!

[Guest guest]

i'm experiencing the same thing here in Florida hun..... they just want to pass the kids on as problem children, and not as children with problems... you can use my quote if you'de like.

Under IDEA, students with disabilities are supposed to get a free appropriate public education. If this is not met, other things can be done. The child can be placed in another school, or possibly be approved for a scholarship for a privats school (depending upon state). DEMAND RULES in IEP forms! Research modifications and special needs for Asperger's. They have some useful information on the web regardin special modifications under the dept of education websites, and also check wrightslaw.com

From: "lakombert@..." <lakombert@...> Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 6:16:45 PMSubject: ( ) Mad as hell & not going to take it anymore!!!

Our grandson is 8 years old, in the 3rd grade. There are 11 days left in this school year.

Since the first day of school, I have asked, begged and implored that if there are any problems in school, that we be called.

Instead we get emails from the teacher days after there's been a problem. Our grandson stole $88. from home. Went to school, handed it out to classmates. The teacher witnessed this. She did absolutely nothing about it. I thought someone broke into my home and stole the money. I called the police and everything. Four days later we get an email from the teacher telling us that Dillon had money in school and was handing it out.

The last straw was on Monday. We went to a counseling appointment with Dillon and his case manager was there. She informed us that for the past two weeks, Dillon has been raging in school. No call from the teacher or anyone at the school.

I've had it! I sent an email to the Principal, Vice Principal, and teacher. I want action taken. I've made threats that I plan on following through with such as contacting the school board and also someone who is well versed in the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Oh yes, we've asked for numerous parent teacher meetings to no avail as well. Of course now that I've made threats, they want to meet with us.

I don't care if there is only 11 days left in this school year. This teacher has not communicated with us at all during this entire year. I don't think we're the only ones. Someone told me that "that's the way it is here in TN". Well not with MY grandson!

I'm going to call the principal back in the morning to set up a meeting. Anyone have any ideas? I'm absolutely livid but don't want to go in there like a loose cannon.

I don't want another family to ever have to go through this with this teacher again. I'm the oldest of 10 children and raised most of my brothers & sisters, raised my 6 children, plus I'm raising my grandson. In all the years that I've been involved with schools, I have never ever seen such nonsense like this with no communication at all from a teacher.

It's not like she's over worked either. She has 17 students and a sometimes teacher's aide. The ratio in NY was 32:1. Yet they still communicated with me.

Thanks for any advice that you can give me.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

I was told by an advocate that if you call the district and ask to

speak to the special ed director sound very much like you are just

looking for help as to what you should do to get your child help

rather than complaining and they will frequewntly get things moving a

lot more quickly. It may be the end of the year but I just had iep

mtgs for my 3 and 5 year olds for next year and have a mtg for my 10

year old next week (where I will bring dh and our advocate to keep me

from going livid on them).

On 5/13/10, lakombert@... <lakombert@...> wrote:

> Our grandson is 8 years old, in the 3rd grade. There are 11 days left in

> this school year.

>

> Since the first day of school, I have asked, begged and implored that if

> there are any problems in school, that we be called.

>

> Instead we get emails from the teacher days after there's been a problem.

> Our grandson stole $88. from home. Went to school, handed it out to

> classmates. The teacher witnessed this. She did absolutely nothing about

> it.

> I thought someone broke into my home and stole the money. I called the

> police and everything. Four days later we get an email from the teacher

> telling us that Dillon had money in school and was handing it out.

>

> The last straw was on Monday. We went to a counseling appointment with

> Dillon and his case manager was there. She informed us that for the past

> two

> weeks, Dillon has been raging in school. No call from the teacher or

> anyone at the school.

>

> I've had it! I sent an email to the Principal, Vice Principal, and

> teacher. I want action taken. I've made threats that I plan on following

> through with such as contacting the school board and also someone who is

> well

> versed in the Americans with Disabilities Act.

>

> Oh yes, we've asked for numerous parent teacher meetings to no avail as

> well. Of course now that I've made threats, they want to meet with us.

>

> I don't care if there is only 11 days left in this school year. This

> teacher has not communicated with us at all during this entire year. I

> don't

> think we're the only ones. Someone told me that " that's the way it is here

> in TN " . Well not with MY grandson!

>

> I'm going to call the principal back in the morning to set up a meeting.

> Anyone have any ideas? I'm absolutely livid but don't want to go in there

> like a loose cannon.

>

> I don't want another family to ever have to go through this with this

> teacher again. I'm the oldest of 10 children and raised most of my

> brothers &

> sisters, raised my 6 children, plus I'm raising my grandson. In all the

> years that I've been involved with schools, I have never ever seen such

> nonsense like this with no communication at all from a teacher.

>

> It's not like she's over worked either. She has 17 students and a

> sometimes teacher's aide. The ratio in NY was 32:1. Yet they still

> communicated

> with me.

>

> Thanks for any advice that you can give me.

>

> Laurie

>

>

>

--

Sent from my mobile device

-mommy to Emma, Becca, ,

, , and baby girl no name (yeah I know, nothing new, does

ever pick a name in a timely manner?) July 2010

[Guest guest]

I'd be upset too! Advice - well, venting here is good. Vent now so you can go

in calm. Go in calm but tell them you are upset and frustrated. Give your

examples, as you did here, and that there was no reason you shouldn't have been

informed that day/each day. You should be the first person called, the case

manager next. I think you said it all pretty well here, just be calm there,

" keep your cool, " once you lose *your* control then they are in control (if you

know what I mean, don't know if I phrased that the best way).

Let us know how the meeting goes!!!

>

> Our grandson is 8 years old, in the 3rd grade. There are 11 days left in

> this school year.

>

> Since the first day of school, I have asked, begged and implored that if

> there are any problems in school, that we be called.

>

> Instead we get emails from the teacher days after there's been a problem.

> Our grandson stole $88. from home. Went to school, handed it out to

> classmates. The teacher witnessed this. She did absolutely nothing about

it.

> I thought someone broke into my home and stole the money. I called the

> police and everything. Four days later we get an email from the teacher

> telling us that Dillon had money in school and was handing it out.

>

> The last straw was on Monday. We went to a counseling appointment with

> Dillon and his case manager was there. She informed us that for the past two

> weeks, Dillon has been raging in school. No call from the teacher or

> anyone at the school.

>

> I've had it! I sent an email to the Principal, Vice Principal, and

> teacher. I want action taken. I've made threats that I plan on following

> through with such as contacting the school board and also someone who is well

> versed in the Americans with Disabilities Act.

>

> Oh yes, we've asked for numerous parent teacher meetings to no avail as

> well. Of course now that I've made threats, they want to meet with us.

>

> I don't care if there is only 11 days left in this school year. This

> teacher has not communicated with us at all during this entire year. I don't

> think we're the only ones. Someone told me that " that's the way it is here

> in TN " . Well not with MY grandson!

>

> I'm going to call the principal back in the morning to set up a meeting.

> Anyone have any ideas? I'm absolutely livid but don't want to go in there

> like a loose cannon.

>

> I don't want another family to ever have to go through this with this

> teacher again. I'm the oldest of 10 children and raised most of my brothers

&

> sisters, raised my 6 children, plus I'm raising my grandson. In all the

> years that I've been involved with schools, I have never ever seen such

> nonsense like this with no communication at all from a teacher.

>

> It's not like she's over worked either. She has 17 students and a

> sometimes teacher's aide. The ratio in NY was 32:1. Yet they still

communicated

> with me.

>

> Thanks for any advice that you can give me.

>

> Laurie

>

[Guest guest]

You've already found out that the people you're talking to aren't doing anything, so it's time to go over their heads. Calmly tell them the reoccurring issues that you've documented. At the very least your son needs a FBA and you need to get some sort of communication book/email put in your child's iep. I think maybe that would be the reason you'd have to meet with the stooges in your school, unfortunately, and ask for an emergency iep meeting NOW! Oh, and prepare an agenda, so you don't get sidetracked. Best of luck to you.  Remember, when you're going through hell, keep going!!

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:16 PM, <lakombert@...> wrote:

 

Our grandson is 8 years old, in the 3rd grade.  There are 11 days left in this school year. 

 

Since the first day of school, I have asked, begged and implored that if there are any problems in school, that we be called. 

 

Instead we get emails from the teacher days after there's been a problem.  Our grandson stole $88. from home.  Went to school, handed it out to classmates.  The teacher witnessed this.  She did absolutely nothing about it.  I thought someone broke into my home and stole the money.  I called the police and everything. Four days later we get an email from the teacher telling us that Dillon had money in school and was handing it out.

 

The last straw was on Monday.  We went to a counseling appointment with Dillon and his case manager was there.  She informed us that for the past two weeks, Dillon has been raging in school.  No call from the teacher or anyone at the school.

 

I've had it!  I sent an email to the Principal, Vice Principal, and teacher.  I want action taken.  I've made threats that I plan on following through with such as contacting the school board and also someone who is well versed in the Americans with Disabilities Act.

 

Oh yes, we've asked for numerous parent teacher meetings to no avail as well.  Of course now that I've made threats, they want to meet with us. 

 

I don't care if there is only 11 days left in this school year.  This teacher has not communicated with us at all during this entire year.  I don't think we're the only ones.  Someone told me that " that's the way it is here in TN " .  Well not with MY grandson!

 

I'm going to call the principal back in the morning to set up a meeting.  Anyone have any ideas?  I'm absolutely livid but don't want to go in there like a loose cannon.

 

I don't want another family to ever have to go through this with this teacher again.  I'm the oldest of 10 children and raised most of my brothers & sisters, raised my 6 children, plus I'm raising my grandson.  In all the years that I've been involved with schools, I have never ever seen such nonsense like this with no communication at all from a teacher.

 

It's not like she's over worked either.  She has 17 students and a sometimes teacher's aide.  The ratio in NY was 32:1. Yet they still communicated with me.

 

Thanks for any advice that you can give me. 

 

Laurie

 

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Laurie, It's true I've f ound that having your details and facts on paper or outlined so that if something is said that upsets you ... you will have your outline to come back to in order to keep focused. When it is realized that you have details and keep your calm ( so to speak) and think like a lawyer... facts and to the point without letting others take you off track with excuses or even accusations.

You need to know your rights, your grandsons rights and their obligations as well as what is plain common sense. Which some people do not have. They know what obligations they are under when you request an emergency IEP and especially if you put it in writing as well as verbally. Please do document everything as you go along and well as whats happening with your grandson. It will be so very important when you are asked a question as well as when you put it to them why they didn't have a better handle on the communication with you.

Go for it and best wishes!!!!!!!!

Ginny

From: <doyourecycle@...> Sent: Thu, May 13, 2010 8:45:20 PMSubject: Re: ( ) Mad as hell & not going to take it anymore!!!

You've already found out that the people you're talking to aren't doing anything, so it's time to go over their heads. Calmly tell them the reoccurring issues that you've documented. At the very least your son needs a FBA and you need to get some sort of communication book/email put in your child's iep. I think maybe that would be the reason you'd have to meet with the stooges in your school, unfortunately, and ask for an emergency iep meeting NOW! Oh, and prepare an agenda, so you don't get sidetracked. Best of luck to you. Remember, when you're going through hell, keep going!!

On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 6:16 PM, <lakombertaol (DOT) com> wrote:

Our grandson is 8 years old, in the 3rd grade. There are 11 days left in this school year.

Since the first day of school, I have asked, begged and implored that if there are any problems in school, that we be called.

Instead we get emails from the teacher days after there's been a problem. Our grandson stole $88. from home. Went to school, handed it out to classmates. The teacher witnessed this. She did absolutely nothing about it. I thought someone broke into my home and stole the money. I called the police and everything. Four days later we get an email from the teacher telling us that Dillon had money in school and was handing it out.

The last straw was on Monday. We went to a counseling appointment with Dillon and his case manager was there. She informed us that for the past two weeks, Dillon has been raging in school. No call from the teacher or anyone at the school.

I've had it! I sent an email to the Principal, Vice Principal, and teacher. I want action taken. I've made threats that I plan on following through with such as contacting the school board and also someone who is well versed in the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Oh yes, we've asked for numerous parent teacher meetings to no avail as well. Of course now that I've made threats, they want to meet with us.

I don't care if there is only 11 days left in this school year. This teacher has not communicated with us at all during this entire year. I don't think we're the only ones. Someone told me that "that's the way it is here in TN". Well not with MY grandson!

I'm going to call the principal back in the morning to set up a meeting. Anyone have any ideas? I'm absolutely livid but don't want to go in there like a loose cannon.

I don't want another family to ever have to go through this with this teacher again. I'm the oldest of 10 children and raised most of my brothers & sisters, raised my 6 children, plus I'm raising my grandson. In all the years that I've been involved with schools, I have never ever seen such nonsense like this with no communication at all from a teacher.

It's not like she's over worked either. She has 17 students and a sometimes teacher's aide. The ratio in NY was 32:1. Yet they still communicated with me.

Thanks for any advice that you can give me.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I'm so sorry for you.

Sounds to me like you know exactly what to do and say. Go for it!!!

Shame on those people. Be strong and good luck.

Hugs.

Ahhhhh, Laughter................

Robin

From: lakombert@... <lakombert@...>Subject: ( ) Mad as hell & not going to take it anymore!!! Date: Thursday, May 13, 2010, 5:16 PM

Our grandson is 8 years old, in the 3rd grade. There are 11 days left in this school year.

Since the first day of school, I have asked, begged and implored that if there are any problems in school, that we be called.

Instead we get emails from the teacher days after there's been a problem. Our grandson stole $88. from home. Went to school, handed it out to classmates. The teacher witnessed this. She did absolutely nothing about it. I thought someone broke into my home and stole the money. I called the police and everything. Four days later we get an email from the teacher telling us that Dillon had money in school and was handing it out.

The last straw was on Monday. We went to a counseling appointment with Dillon and his case manager was there. She informed us that for the past two weeks, Dillon has been raging in school. No call from the teacher or anyone at the school.

I've had it! I sent an email to the Principal, Vice Principal, and teacher. I want action taken. I've made threats that I plan on following through with such as contacting the school board and also someone who is well versed in the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Oh yes, we've asked for numerous parent teacher meetings to no avail as well. Of course now that I've made threats, they want to meet with us.

I don't care if there is only 11 days left in this school year. This teacher has not communicated with us at all during this entire year. I don't think we're the only ones. Someone told me that "that's the way it is here in TN". Well not with MY grandson!

I'm going to call the principal back in the morning to set up a meeting. Anyone have any ideas? I'm absolutely livid but don't want to go in there like a loose cannon.

I don't want another family to ever have to go through this with this teacher again. I'm the oldest of 10 children and raised most of my brothers & sisters, raised my 6 children, plus I'm raising my grandson. In all the years that I've been involved with schools, I have never ever seen such nonsense like this with no communication at all from a teacher.

It's not like she's over worked either. She has 17 students and a sometimes teacher's aide. The ratio in NY was 32:1. Yet they still communicated with me.

Thanks for any advice that you can give me.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

Laurie:

I can't give you any advice, because my children are home school, but I can wish you luck and I will light and candle for you and your little one.

--

Chesa Devon

( ) Mad as hell & not going to take it anymore!!!

Our grandson is 8 years old, in the 3rd grade. There are 11 days left in this school year.

Since the first day of school, I have asked, begged and implored that if there are any problems in school, that we be called.

Instead we get emails from the teacher days after there's been a problem. Our grandson stole $88. from home. Went to school, handed it out to classmates. The teacher witnessed this. She did absolutely nothing about it. I thought someone broke into my home and stole the money. I called the police and everything. Four days later we get an email from the teacher telling us that Dillon had money in school and was handing it out.

The last straw was on Monday. We went to a counseling appointment with Dillon and his case manager was there. She informed us that for the past two weeks, Dillon has been raging in school. No call from the teacher or anyone at the school.

I've had it! I sent an email to the Principal, Vice Principal, and teacher. I want action taken. I've made threats that I plan on following through with such as contacting the school board and also someone who is well versed in the Americans with Disabilities Act.

Oh yes, we've asked for numerous parent teacher meetings to no avail as well. Of course now that I've made threats, they want to meet with us.

I don't care if there is only 11 days left in this school year. This teacher has not communicated with us at all during this entire year. I don't think we're the only ones. Someone told me that "that's the way it is here in TN". Well not with MY grandson!

I'm going to call the principal back in the morning to set up a meeting. Anyone have any ideas? I'm absolutely livid but don't want to go in there like a loose cannon.

I don't want another family to ever have to go through this with this teacher again. I'm the oldest of 10 children and raised most of my brothers & sisters, raised my 6 children, plus I'm raising my grandson. In all the years that I've been involved with schools, I have never ever seen such nonsense like this with no communication at all from a teacher.

It's not like she's over worked either. She has 17 students and a sometimes teacher's aide. The ratio in NY was 32:1. Yet they still communicated with me.

Thanks for any advice that you can give me.

Laurie

[Guest guest]

Your grandson is classifed right? Schools are cautious now days

about reporting behaviors because then they would have to call

in a behaviorist. Now that they said something to you, you

can ask for a functional behavioral assessement (FBA). They

probably won't do anything until the fall. An FBA has to be done

by a behaviorist. The issue may not be that your AS grandson was

raging but what did they do or not do to calm him down. It

is very easy to escalate kids with issues. Ask for a behaviorist

to write a behavior plan on how to handle outbursts and other

unwanted behaviors. They will have to enlist the help of a

certified behaviorist. You will like the plan they come up with

it will be based on positive reinforcement. The behavioral intervention plan

(BIP) is part of the IEP. Schools have changed

a lot. Schools are very are cautious about sharing

information because they fear it sets them up to provide

services. If they were to report social issues, you could argue for

social skill classes. If they look away, they can ignore the problem.

There are lots of great teachers. I am not critizing them but we

all have to advocate for limited services. It does amount to waging a

resource battle with the unwritten policies of school districts. And

sometimes it is the teacher if they see AS as poor parenting and

just don't understand. That doesn't help either. My experience

though it is the school boards and principals that set the tone

for a school.

Pam

- In , lakombert@... wrote:

>

> Our grandson is 8 years old, in the 3rd grade. There are 11 days left in

> this school year.

>

> Since the first day of school, I have asked, begged and implored that if

> there are any problems in school, that we be called.

>

> Instead we get emails from the teacher days after there's been a problem.

> Our grandson stole $88. from home. Went to school, handed it out to

> classmates. The teacher witnessed this. She did absolutely nothing about

it.

> I thought someone broke into my home and stole the money. I called the

> police and everything. Four days later we get an email from the teacher

> telling us that Dillon had money in school and was handing it out.

>

> The last straw was on Monday. We went to a counseling appointment with

> Dillon and his case manager was there. She informed us that for the past two

> weeks, Dillon has been raging in school. No call from the teacher or

> anyone at the school.

>

> I've had it! I sent an email to the Principal, Vice Principal, and

> teacher. I want action taken. I've made threats that I plan on following

> through with such as contacting the school board and also someone who is well

> versed in the Americans with Disabilities Act.

>

> Oh yes, we've asked for numerous parent teacher meetings to no avail as

> well. Of course now that I've made threats, they want to meet with us.

>

> I don't care if there is only 11 days left in this school year. This

> teacher has not communicated with us at all during this entire year. I don't

> think we're the only ones. Someone told me that " that's the way it is here

> in TN " . Well not with MY grandson!

>

> I'm going to call the principal back in the morning to set up a meeting.

> Anyone have any ideas? I'm absolutely livid but don't want to go in there

> like a loose cannon.

>

> I don't want another family to ever have to go through this with this

> teacher again. I'm the oldest of 10 children and raised most of my brothers

&

> sisters, raised my 6 children, plus I'm raising my grandson. In all the

> years that I've been involved with schools, I have never ever seen such

> nonsense like this with no communication at all from a teacher.

>

> It's not like she's over worked either. She has 17 students and a

> sometimes teacher's aide. The ratio in NY was 32:1. Yet they still

communicated

> with me.

>

> Thanks for any advice that you can give me.

>

> Laurie

>

[Guest guest]

Bring a tape recorder to the meeting, too. In the fall, bring an advocate to the

meeting to help make it clear that the school has a legal obligation to follow

the IEP.

[Guest guest]

Laurie,

I went through several time when our district pulled stuff that sent me reeling.

I a principal who once claimed my son did not need a 3 year full review since he

did not have an IEP. Ahhh,yes he did. He had IEP's in place from the time he was

13 months old with problems other than AS (he was not diagnosed with AS until he

was 16 1/2). The teacher had been trying to get the testing done so we could

have the IEP with his annual parent conference as I had done in the past and

since she had had my son in her class once before, she absolutely knew there was

an IEP in place. I sent a letter to the school superintendent and EVERY board

member. This scared everyone that a law suit would be pending shortly (I never

mentioned the words law suit in my letter) that they were on it pronto.

Don't wait for more problems. Contract the top dogs NOW! With budget cuts, a law

suit and a write up in the paper is definitely what they need. Demand that there

be communication.

Debbi in SO CA

>

> Our grandson is 8 years old, in the 3rd grade. There are 11 days left in

> this school year.

>

> Since the first day of school, I have asked, begged and implored that if

> there are any problems in school, that we be called.

>

> Instead we get emails from the teacher days after there's been a problem.

> Our grandson stole $88. from home. Went to school, handed it out to

> classmates. The teacher witnessed this. She did absolutely nothing about

it.

> I thought someone broke into my home and stole the money. I called the

> police and everything. Four days later we get an email from the teacher

> telling us that Dillon had money in school and was handing it out.

>

> The last straw was on Monday. We went to a counseling appointment with

> Dillon and his case manager was there. She informed us that for the past two

> weeks, Dillon has been raging in school. No call from the teacher or

> anyone at the school.

>

> I've had it! I sent an email to the Principal, Vice Principal, and

> teacher. I want action taken. I've made threats that I plan on following

> through with such as contacting the school board and also someone who is well

> versed in the Americans with Disabilities Act.

>

> Oh yes, we've asked for numerous parent teacher meetings to no avail as

> well. Of course now that I've made threats, they want to meet with us.

>

> I don't care if there is only 11 days left in this school year. This

> teacher has not communicated with us at all during this entire year. I don't

> think we're the only ones. Someone told me that " that's the way it is here

> in TN " . Well not with MY grandson!

>

> I'm going to call the principal back in the morning to set up a meeting.

> Anyone have any ideas? I'm absolutely livid but don't want to go in there

> like a loose cannon.

>

> I don't want another family to ever have to go through this with this

> teacher again. I'm the oldest of 10 children and raised most of my brothers

&

> sisters, raised my 6 children, plus I'm raising my grandson. In all the

> years that I've been involved with schools, I have never ever seen such

> nonsense like this with no communication at all from a teacher.

>

> It's not like she's over worked either. She has 17 students and a

> sometimes teacher's aide. The ratio in NY was 32:1. Yet they still

communicated

> with me.

>

> Thanks for any advice that you can give me.

>

> Laurie

>