Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 Ok brilliant ladies and gentlemans…I’m asking a question on behalf of a friend of mine, who’s son is 13yrs old and has been DX’d with ADHD and ODD, but I’m CERTAIN he’s on the spectrum (and it’s something they’re looking into). Anyway… as of late, she’s REALLY been struggling with him taking things, either without permission, or when he’s already been told no. Things like – taking someone elses pack of gum, and hiding the wrapper in his room… or taking two cans of pop to school for lunch when he’s been told not to – and when his mom tries to stop him in the morning, he pushes and shoves her, and she ends up giving up, because she can’t match him, physically (and he’s ONLY 13, that’s scary L) She does the positive lines… she takes things away from him, etc… but none of it seems to be making much difference. Have any of you dealt with this before, and/or have any suggestions for her? Thanks in advance, you guys are the best =) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 She can contact the Yale Parent and Child Conduct Clinic and work with one of their therapists over the phone. They are experts in oppostional behaviors like this. I have had the training and follow up for the past 6 months and I tell you there is not a simple solution. If he has anger or outbursts behaviors whenever something is not just right that she should start with a psychiatrist and see about calming the outbursts. I would not have gotten anywhere with my daughter's oppositional behavior when she had a guick trigger on angry and rage. For us zoloft brought this way down and then I could work on the behavior issues with Yale. With the Yale method the child earns rewards with a child so explosive you would not take things away you would add very small rewards. The rewards do not have to be big. If he hits his Mom he has to do a small chore before he gets to have priveleges. If he is so enraged that you don't think this is a possiblity then see the psychiatrist. AS kids like routine often and respond to shaping programs. Kids with ADHD and ODD do best with these type of shaping/token systems according to the experts. Shaping methods like Yale's do work but not if the child is not stable. Hope this helps! Pam > > Ok brilliant ladies and gentlemans. > > I'm asking a question on behalf of a friend of mine, who's son is 13yrs old > and has been DX'd with ADHD and ODD, but I'm CERTAIN he's on the spectrum > (and it's something they're looking into). > > > > Anyway. as of late, she's REALLY been struggling with him taking things, > either without permission, or when he's already been told no. Things like - > taking someone elses pack of gum, and hiding the wrapper in his room. or > taking two cans of pop to school for lunch when he's been told not to - and > when his mom tries to stop him in the morning, he pushes and shoves her, and > she ends up giving up, because she can't match him, physically (and he's > ONLY 13, that's scary L) > > > > She does the positive lines. she takes things away from him, etc. but none > of it seems to be making much difference. > > > > Have any of you dealt with this before, and/or have any suggestions for her? > > > > Thanks in advance, you guys are the best > > > > =) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 14, 2010 Report Share Posted May 14, 2010 I think the mom should take defensive classes to learn how to safely restrain her son they neither one gets hurt.From: Pamela <susanonderko@...>Subject: ( ) Re: Taking things... Date: Friday, May 14, 2010, 9:12 PM She can contact the Yale Parent and Child Conduct Clinic and work with one of their therapists over the phone. They are experts in oppostional behaviors like this. I have had the training and follow up for the past 6 months and I tell you there is not a simple solution. If he has anger or outbursts behaviors whenever something is not just right that she should start with a psychiatrist and see about calming the outbursts. I would not have gotten anywhere with my daughter's oppositional behavior when she had a guick trigger on angry and rage. For us zoloft brought this way down and then I could work on the behavior issues with Yale. With the Yale method the child earns rewards with a child so explosive you would not take things away you would add very small rewards. The rewards do not have to be big. If he hits his Mom he has to do a small chore before he gets to have priveleges. If he is so enraged that you don't think this is a possiblity then see the psychiatrist. AS kids like routine often and respond to shaping programs. Kids with ADHD and ODD do best with these type of shaping/token systems according to the experts. Shaping methods like Yale's do work but not if the child is not stable. Hope this helps! Pam > > Ok brilliant ladies and gentlemans. > > I'm asking a question on behalf of a friend of mine, who's son is 13yrs old > and has been DX'd with ADHD and ODD, but I'm CERTAIN he's on the spectrum > (and it's something they're looking into). > > > > Anyway. as of late, she's REALLY been struggling with him taking things, > either without permission, or when he's already been told no. Things like - > taking someone elses pack of gum, and hiding the wrapper in his room. or > taking two cans of pop to school for lunch when he's been told not to - and > when his mom tries to stop him in the morning, he pushes and shoves her, and > she ends up giving up, because she can't match him, physically (and he's > ONLY 13, that's scary L) > > > > She does the positive lines. she takes things away from him, etc. but none > of it seems to be making much difference. > > > > Have any of you dealt with this before, and/or have any suggestions for her? > > > > Thanks in advance, you guys are the best > > > > =) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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