Guest guest Posted March 18, 2011 Report Share Posted March 18, 2011 > > Can anyone describe to me how this works? > If my son works with an ABA therapist or attends social skills sessions, how do they get what is learned to carry over to different environments, like school? > He did attend social skills groups last summer, and none of it was generalized to anywhere else... > Thanks > TJ > TJ, is the ABA therapist giving you feedback on the techniques that they are working on? Mostly, for my son, I was the one carrying the feedback back and forth between the different therapists and the teachers. I did sign a permission form for the teacher to call the therapist (and for the therapist to take the call -- both need records of permission granted), but I don't think the call ever happened. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 He doesn't have a therapist yet. I've been thinking about finding one, but was trying to figure out how it would be beneficial for his specific needs. Thanks TJ > > > > Can anyone describe to me how this works? > > If my son works with an ABA therapist or attends social skills sessions, how do they get what is learned to carry over to different environments, like school? > > He did attend social skills groups last summer, and none of it was generalized to anywhere else... > > Thanks > > TJ > > > > TJ, is the ABA therapist giving you feedback on the techniques that they are working on? Mostly, for my son, I was the one carrying the feedback back and forth between the different therapists and the teachers. > > I did sign a permission form for the teacher to call the therapist (and for the therapist to take the call -- both need records of permission granted), but I don't think the call ever happened. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 What I've found is that generalizing into every day is one of the hardest parts. The social skills groups did help my son learn the basics such as sharing, etc when he was younger but as social skills got more complex I found that having social skills groups made up of kids that he would never see again weren't effective. I made this argument with the school who recently wanted me to bring my son to a private social skills group (they would have paid the fees). I felt that my son needed to practice his social skills with kids that he may see in the hallways at school. That way he potentially could carry over the skills in a natural setting. So if you can get the school to provide a social skills group or if you can find a private one locally with kids that your son may know already then it may help your son generalize the skills in every day life better. Don't have any experience with ABA so can't comment on that. Caroline > > Can anyone describe to me how this works? > If my son works with an ABA therapist or attends social skills sessions, how do they get what is learned to carry over to different environments, like school? > He did attend social skills groups last summer, and none of it was generalized to anywhere else... > Thanks > TJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 Generalizing is a part of the learning process. An ABA therapist would have generalization as part of the process. i.e. it is part of the learning, not an afterthought. In ABA, he would be taught skills and each skill is generalized as part of the program. Social skill groups tend to not be as likely to have generalization as part of the program. But this doesn't mean it shouldn't or can't be done. First, you need to identify what skills are being taught. Then you need to figure out how that will be generalized to daily life. So if you are teaching eye contact, for instance, you need to keep that practice going in the real world in every day life. You should coordinate with the teacher so that you can cue the skill being taught when it is appropriate in the real world activities. If it's at school and a goal, the generalization should be factored in as part of the goal or as a separate goal. Roxanna May those who love us, love us And those who don't love us, May God turn their hearts And if he can't turn their hearts, May he turn their ankles So we will know them by their limping! ( ) Generalizing skills Can anyone describe to me how this works? If my son works with an ABA therapist or attends social skills sessions, how do they get what is learned to carry over to different environments, like school? He did attend social skills groups last summer, and none of it was generalized to anywhere else... Thanks TJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 20, 2011 Report Share Posted March 20, 2011 , in truth, not all ABA or Behavior Mod programs are created equally and have set goals for a child to generalize skills learned in every apsect of one's life. School-based and home-based programs that lack a social/community service component fall short in helping the child go out into the world and applying what one has learned in a general way. What you end up with are children who know how to do a specific task/goal in the environment in which they learned. This has been the major criticism of operant condition is that one is conditioned in a specific environment. But, things are changing. The company that we used for ABA was highly skilled in this area. I'll give you an example. My son at age 3 could not sit in a chair. Simply put, he couldn't do it. He had a lot of sensory issues and behavior/brain issues as well. His ABA provider worte multiple programs over the course of a year and we worked with him long and hard on sitting and once he achieved this at home and at school, the next step was to generalize that skill -- totake him to restaurants, movies, other people's houses, the library and work in those environments for him to achieve the same results. And, I have to tell you...sitting in a chair at home in a controlled environment was a lot different than sitting in one where he had to process the environment. My son would just rip! I mean, I personally worked side-by-side with his aides until we could get him under control. But, after several years of this, he can do it! He can generalize. It did not happen overnight. But, today, he can go anywhere, any place at anytime and sit like a typical-developing child. He can go into a 4-star restaurant or see the ballet. It took a couple years of training, but that's how he was able to generalize that one skill into the real world...into life. Without that training he probably would not be mainstreamed today because there was no way he could sit in a chair. He also gets Social Skills Training and I think this is one of the most imporant programs for Aspergers/autistics to have when they're young. I think that skills gained young will help our children go out there into the world one day and sit at a board table and be able to throw down with the best of them, make eye contact, understand other's perspectives and not miss a beat. I really support Social Skills Programs because I have heard from many, many adult Aspies who say that this is the one area that has kept them unemployed and not living life to their fullest potential. Social Skills Programs are a great way to take our kids out into the community and work on how to relate to others and conduct themselves. Does that help? Let me know. And, forgive the typos. Thanks! > > Can anyone describe to me how this works? > If my son works with an ABA therapist or attends social skills sessions, how do they get what is learned to carry over to different environments, like school? > He did attend social skills groups last summer, and none of it was generalized to anywhere else... > Thanks > TJ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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