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This is about the 1/2 days verses full day of kindergarten. Here in our

town, all the kind. go all day. I know most of the schools here in Iowa have

full day of Kind. I just wondered what you parents think of this for any

type of child? I always felt that it was too much for a child to go all day.

But in afternoons at school they have rest time. The teachers say most of

the kids do fall asleep, but by christmas time, not many kids fall asleep

and have adjusted to the rutine. Nikki is only 7 months, so I do have a few

more years before I worry about that. But I was just curious of what ya

thought, and did your kids fall asleep at school too?

Joyce mom to 5 including Nikki 7 months DS

New school

> Ok. I just got off the phone with the principal at the elementary school

> that the boys will go to if we get the house we REALLY want. It's a

small

> corporation, only about 780 students, total, in the whole district.

That's 2

> townships, plus. Gosh, I love the country.

>

> They have 2 elementary schools, one has K-2, the other has 3-5. The

> principal herself has a hearing impaired child. So, she can see my point.

> They do mostly inclusion, with a resource teacher to help. In the more

> severe cases, they do send a few children to the city to get their special

> needs met, but I don't see us in that category. The only therapy Austin

> needs is speech, and he can get that at the school.

>

> The kindy program works like this. 1/2 day, preschool/daycare setting,

> lunch, then 1/2 day kindy. All of this is inclusion, no separates unless

> it's pull outs for specific things, which I can control. That's for all

kindy

> kids. Not just spec needs, but all. SO, BOTH my boys would go full day.

> Gee, can they start today??? LOL Or, it would be turned around, with

1/2

> day kindy, with 1/2 day pre/daycare. This is of course free, and

considered

> regular kindy. In the current town we live in, there is a lottery for

kids

> to go to full day kindy, with only about 10% of kids getting it.

>

> I am very optimistic about the school system. At least on the elementary

> level. If the way is paved just a little bit there, then I can easily

jump

> in. Now, that gives me a few years to work on the middle/high schools if

> need be. Gee, now all we have to do is get this house before somebody

else

> does. LOL

>

>

> Any opinions on this and how it sounds would be great! Thanks in advance,

> Beth, mommy to austin, ds/5 dakota, nonds/5, indiana

>

>

>

>

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I'm not sure if this ever went through the mail deman sent it back. hehe. I

hate that gremlin. :-)

In a message dated 4/10/02 7:01:38 PM Central Daylight Time,

MAILER-DAEMON@... writes:

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> In a message dated 4/10/02 4:03:39 PM Central Daylight Time,

> circles@... writes:

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> >> I just wondered what you parents think of this for any

>> type of child? I always felt that it was too much for a child to go all

>> day.

>> But in afternoons at school they have rest time. The teachers say most of

>> the kids do fall asleep, but by christmas time, not many kids fall asleep

>> and have adjusted to the rutine

>

> I love it!! :-) No it's not to much for the children, and they actually

> get stuff done rather then what they accomplished in 1/2 days. I mean as

> Mrs. Liskow said for 1/2 days they'd arrive, and have to get all thier

> outdoor things off and hung up, go and find their place. then they'd work

> on something like reading/math for a little bit and then have to stop for

> recess...which meant putting on all the outside things and going out to

> play, with her having to help with buttons, snaps, zips and boots and even

> snowsuits during winter months then when they come back in it's time for

> bathroom break and snack time. all things like story time, center time,

> craft time also have to be worked in, in the end they did very little

> actual academics and alot of getting ready.

>

> My 25 yo had 1/2 day K. It was also a pain in the rear for us because we'd

> spend the morning doing chores and if we needed to make a run to town we

> either had to hurry up with the chores and then rush into town and back to

> make sure we got home when she did or we had to wait til she got home at

> 11:30. (note school started at 8, with all the above and having to leave

> at 11, they really had to rush through everything)

>

> My 23 yo was in the first class to go all day, our school does the all day

> everyother day, it was one of the first schools to go to all day in this

> area and there were all those same doubts. None of them ever came true.

> The full day gives them time to interact with each other and it also give

> the teacher time to help each child individually, which was really hard to

> do when you have 20-25 little ones and trying to get writing, reading and

> math introduction done plus giving them time for play. My 19 yo also had

> all day every other day K, and she was so tiny in K that the boysalwys

> thought she needed help. hehe. also has been in school all

> day...everyday since she was 4 1/2 I think it was. The biggest problem in

> her case was it took me another couple years to get it through their heads

> that when they let her nap they were making problems for us at night. She

> didn't need a nap. LOL

>

> Now all the schools around here go all day, (and every single one went

> through the same arguments when debating whether to change, but not having

> a noon bus helps keep the money in the classroom) most even go every day

> instead of every other, just depends on how they set it up. But it truely

> is much more relaxed by letting them do things over a full day rather then

> cramming everything into a coupld hrs. IMO of course. :-)

>

> Oh they do have a time when they can rest if they so choose, for the most

> part they choose not to. hehe

>

> Joy, Mom to 12, ds...and 3 older girls. in MN

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In a message dated 4/10/2002 4:03:30 PM Central Standard Time,

circles@... writes:

> did your kids fall asleep at school too?

HI

Sara went to all day Kindy, in fact she's never gone half days for anything,

not Preschool Sped either.

Heehee Sara was not a napper, wouldn't have been so bad but she would keep

the other kids awake too lolol she would whisper " Hey...hey you sleep???? "

Soooooo the team decided this would be the perfect time for pullouts, for her

therapies smart move

Kathy mom to Sara 10.......now she wants to nap at school lol and can't in

3rd grade

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>, so I do have a few

> more years before I worry about that. But I was just curious of what ya

> thought, and did your kids fall asleep at school too?

Joyce,

had all day Kind. because he was in special ed and it was GREAT for

him. He gave up his nap at around 3 1/2 (just the time we adopted my

daughter...I wanted to cry!). Grace, however, will be in regular ed and it

is only 1/2 day. I do have to make the decision whether to send her morning

or afternoon and I'd prefer afternoon because the classes are smaller. But

she is still sleepy in the afternoons and still takes naps a couple of times

a week. I think every child is different. Grace would probably do great

with a full day of kindergarten if they included a rest in the PM.

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Our school district just went to all day kindy this year. They have " quiet

time " every day at about 1:00, where the

kids spread out towels and rest on the floor for about 40 minutes. All the

kids, at one time or another, fall asleep.

They may be getting sick, or just had a late night, but sooner or later each of

them really needs it for whatever

reason. Even on the days when they don't fall asleep, it is a nice winding down

period after lunch and recess.

I am a big nap-advocate. I take them on a regular basis!

Karla in Texas

Ronca wrote:

> >, so I do have a few

> > more years before I worry about that. But I was just curious of what ya

> > thought, and did your kids fall asleep at school too?

>

> Joyce,

>

> had all day Kind. because he was in special ed and it was GREAT for

> him. He gave up his nap at around 3 1/2 (just the time we adopted my

> daughter...I wanted to cry!). Grace, however, will be in regular ed and it

> is only 1/2 day. I do have to make the decision whether to send her morning

> or afternoon and I'd prefer afternoon because the classes are smaller. But

> she is still sleepy in the afternoons and still takes naps a couple of times

> a week. I think every child is different. Grace would probably do great

> with a full day of kindergarten if they included a rest in the PM.

>

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In a message dated 4/30/2002 8:06:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, modoyo@...

writes:

<< What do think of his teacher? I love the fact

they get to go on trips and outside oganizations come in. >>

Maureen,

That's great. I love the fact that they will be in the same class, too.

It's a great place with a really great staff. His teacher and the two aides

are awesome. I trust them to take great care of him and they do.

He has learned so much this year and he's so happy there. I can't say enough

about the place. You'll be welcomed there anytime which is nice. Since he's

been there I've learned that some of my friends kids have gone there too.

One child with CP & one with a general delay. They all loved it.

Kathy, Liam's mom(4)

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Anyone in the colorado springs area there are a group of ambitious

women that started a autistic school in the springs area! These women are

very ambitious and last time I heard from them they were trying to make this

a charter school with CDE. I havent opened up there web site yet but this

may be one of the answers!!!!!1

-- New School

We are writing to announce the opening of a school and Outreach Services

availible to children on the Autism Spectrum in Colorado! We are proud to

officially open our doors in September 2002 look forward to providing the

first school for children with Autism in the state of Colorado. We have a

web site that is now fully up and running with all the infomation about the

services we provide. Our building will be on Southgate Road right next to

Cedar Springs Hospital, but we will be providing outreach services all over

the area. We look forward to serving the community and the children who face

the challanges of Autism.

Our web site is www.coloradoinstituteofautism.org

Thank you for your support.

Colorado Institute of Autism

PO Box 50254

Colorado Springs, CO 80949

(719) 593-7334

colorado_institute_of_autism@...

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Sue,

This sounds great! I know what you mean about the speech. After fighting with

them for 2 years they finally have worked with Bridget on " Conversational

Speech " . I had it written in the IEP that way. It has made a difference. She

has now on several occasions made comments about things that taste good on her

own initiative. And if you can't understand her, she changes what she is saying

to " Having fun! "

If you would like some info on how to work on the conversational speech, check

out www.jamesdmacdonald.org

mom to Bridget 11 ds in Upstate SC

New school

Tim had his first visit to his new school yesterday, mostly an admin job but

he also got to meet some of his classmates (about half will be new to school

like him in september so weren't there), he met his new teacher (who will also

be new to school) and most important of all he met the dinner lady who will have

him and she introduced him to the cook. For a man who thinks on his stomach

like tim does this was an imprressive added bonus to the trip! He was not

terribly impressed over all becoz he hates change and knows his current TA will

not be going to the school with him, but his dinner lady showed him a photo

display of all the lunch time activities which included video watching and he

was won over (for lunch time any way, no way of knowing about the class sessions

yet!!).

The class will have 8, possibly 9 children and three (4 if the 9th child wins

his appeal) adults (1 teacher the rest TA's). All but one of the children are

boys with a range of different learning disabilities from general delays, ASD,

visual impairment with learning difficulties, CP and tim with DS.

His speech therapy will change with more emphasis on social use of language

rather than specific targets in sounds etc becoz over the last couple of years

it has become apparant that although tim is meeting all his targets in 1:1

sessions he isn't generalising those skills into his school day and at home. I

noticed yesterday that when the other children introduced themselves they either

said hello tim my name is... or my name is ... in such a way it was obvious they

had been taught, but this is just what tim needs, to be taught specifically pat

phrases for different social situations and I have had very little success with

this (probably becoz I am not terribly consistent!).

Anyway, he has a smart new purple sweatshirt and polo shirt (the school

uniform) ready for his next session in June when he will spend time in the

classroom and stay for lunch. I'm excited even if he is somewhat underwhelmed!!

sue wong

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That sounds like a great school; is CB going there now? Pat K

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Just entered the admission stage. When we were talking to the admistrator, she said CB sounded like an aspy, we then explained he lost all language at 15 months. She said he could still be an aspy. Doctors at UCLA dx'ed him an auty, could this be the reason for behaviors ? I havent a clue as to what we might do diffently.

CB was on "theraputic Break" on Monday, due to a major meltdown in class, however one of the examples given by the principal was that CB removed the sock of one of the other kids and tickled the kids foot.How do you explain to these people that meltdowns happen, that the said meltdowns are not unusual for autistics. This was the first meltdown since I started going with him to school. And it was caused when the Asst. Teacher gave redirection over mine. He needed quiet and she said NO...he sits at his desk. BOOM ! I hope we can find a school that will understand his need to have "quiet time ".

CB's Granny

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I would be talking to Evan's principal if this happened to Evan. If a student goes into meltdown if not allowed to have his quiet time when needed then it is the Ass. Teacher's fault. Sounds like the Ass. Teacher wanted to show authority.

Betty

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From: LornaBerry@... And it was caused when the Asst. Teacher gave redirection over mine. He needed quiet and she said NO...he sits at his desk. BOOM ! I hope we can find a school that will understand his need to have "quiet time ". CB's Granny

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Hi everyone,

My son's current public school has not provided him FAPE. We have had 3 IEP meetings and all of them failed to meet his needs. So we are voluntarily pulling him out and putting him at Mt. Helix academy where the class rooms are smaller. But he is so resistant to change. The new school starts Wed!!! And we haven't told him yet. I want to start this school on a postive note. For all you in this position before, how did you tell your child(hes 8)? Did you offfer treats or incentives if he goes without a meltdown?

It's getting to where school causes him so much anxiety we have a tantrum every morning. I'm at a loss. Any ideas are helpful. He's on Prozac for anxiety but is there something else you know of that's more appropriate for anxiety?

Thanks a lot,