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I was sure hoping someone would ask this question.

Because our medical system is so lacking here, several

months later we took these tests. I think that the

nuero-testing was excellent to discover cognitive

damage. That explains my fumble fingers in typing at

times. I also had executive damage,and a genius IQ,

that has to do rerouting to survive. I only took a

portion of the physcological before my genius told me

some of the question were invasions of privacy, and

were looking to label. You can request only the

nuero-part. I think if you want a psycological you

should do it seperately. On the few questions I did

answer the doctor tried to label me but couldn't and

admitted that. Not to mention that he flirted

incesstantly and

said I bassically need his care for the reat of my

life.Ha! Get my message??? Use caution, they are only

human too and sometimes not faultless.

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--- Stinkypouf@... wrote:

> Crosspost from ... Hello all,

>

> My doctor (not exactly an ally) has ordered a

> neuropsych evaluation. I would

> like to know if anyone can share their experience/s

> regarding documentation

> of illness/impairment through this means. I am

> scared to hear more of the

> same garbage about being " fine " . I also am scared

> to hear " psychogenic

> origin " (which we all know is utter falsity, but

> that never stops'em).

> Please share what you can. Thank you so much.

>

> K

> stinkypouf@...

>

>

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I had a neuropsychological evaluation about a year ago after my toxic

exposure. I knew nothing about this going into it. Mine lasted from

8am to 5:30 pm with an hour break for lunch, and no other breaks. I

would highly recommend breaking it up into two days to help alleviate

fatigue if the psychologist will do this. My brain was so fried

after a few hours that I think the last tests done were near

worthless. What ever you do...TRY AS HARD AS YOU CAN ON THE TESTS

THEN TRY A LITTLE MORE. I tried as hard as I could on the tests, and

was completely honest, and still had a rotten report written by the

doctor, saying " unable to determine motivational factors "

and " cognitive impairment may be at least partially psychogenic in

origin " . So in other words, the doctor implied I was possibly faking

for my lawsuit or too depressed to determine how much impairment was

simply neurological or faked or caused by depression. Many of the

tests are trying to find faking or malingering...my doctor was like a

dog with a bone trying to find faking or depression. I cannot stress

to you the importance of this report in a lawsuit. Had I known

anything about these things, I would have found the money *somehow*

and seen a neuropsychologist who is open to exploring neurological

impairment in unusual situations like a toxic exposure. I left the

long day of tests thinking I had tried *so* hard that they would not

find cognitive impairment, and was shocked when I recieved the report

that it documented severe cognitive impairment. Lucky for me my

referring doctor knew the suspicions of faking or depression were not

correct and he referred me to an excellent neuropsychologist who did

rehabilitation for over a year.

If you are in litigation or will be, this report will follow you and

can determine the course of your case. So, if you have an attorney I

would recommend speaking with him/her about the neuropsychologist

before you have this done. Hope this helps.

> Crosspost from ... Hello all,

>

> My doctor (not exactly an ally) has ordered a neuropsych

evaluation. I would

> like to know if anyone can share their experience/s regarding

documentation

> of illness/impairment through this means. I am scared to hear more

of the

> same garbage about being " fine " . I also am scared to

hear " psychogenic

> origin " (which we all know is utter falsity, but that never

stops'em).

> Please share what you can. Thank you so much.

>

> K

> stinkypouf@a...

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You could request to do only the neuro tests, but the report would

not be considered an accurate neuropsychological evaluation without

the MMPI (psychological) test along with the neuro-cognitive tests.

Doing only the cognitive tests could provide good information to you

or your doctor but would not be considered an accurate or complete

evaluation for medical or legal purposes. I also think the

neuropsychological evaluation is wonderful at finding cognitive

impairment...I just cannot stress enough making sure you see the

right neuropsychologist. Lucky for me mine was videtaped so I have

evidence that the doctor ignored my repeated statements regarding a

hearing impairment that she ignored and that skewed my results and

her report.

> > Crosspost from ... Hello all,

> >

> > My doctor (not exactly an ally) has ordered a

> > neuropsych evaluation. I would

> > like to know if anyone can share their experience/s

> > regarding documentation

> > of illness/impairment through this means. I am

> > scared to hear more of the

> > same garbage about being " fine " . I also am scared

> > to hear " psychogenic

> > origin " (which we all know is utter falsity, but

> > that never stops'em).

> > Please share what you can. Thank you so much.

> >

> > K

> > stinkypouf@a...

> >

> >

>

>

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>

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While doing only the neuro-cognitive tests could provide good

information to you and your doctor, the psychological tests are

mandatory, along with a review of medical records to be considered an

actual neuropsychological evaluation to determine neurological damage

for medical and/or legal purposes. I think the neuropsychological

evaluation can be wonderful also, I just cannot stress enough seeing

the right doctor.

> > Crosspost from ... Hello all,

> >

> > My doctor (not exactly an ally) has ordered a

> > neuropsych evaluation. I would

> > like to know if anyone can share their experience/s

> > regarding documentation

> > of illness/impairment through this means. I am

> > scared to hear more of the

> > same garbage about being " fine " . I also am scared

> > to hear " psychogenic

> > origin " (which we all know is utter falsity, but

> > that never stops'em).

> > Please share what you can. Thank you so much.

> >

> > K

> > stinkypouf@a...

> >

> >

>

>

> __________________________________________________

>

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Certainly I would agree, except that the pychologist I had, had a personal issue going on himself. You have to be realistic too in this. My former spouses uncle was a pyschiatrist, he committed suicide, my Mother's psych. did too. For years they were treating people by locking them in mental wards for mental illness when in actuality it was a vitamin B defiency corrected as they added the B's and niacin to breads. Once my s got thrown on top of his car and hit by a furious DPS officer. It turned out he was going through a divorce. Now my x is an officer. Go figure!! I guess he liked the control factor.

My Grandmother lived to miss her 100th birthday by one month. She always used home canned and garden fresh, non-pesticided food. She lived long enough to see a couple of wars, several presidents, and even the ages when England tested by putting children in orphanages away from their Mother's to see if they would thrive.(psychological testing.) Of course they also used to have debtors prison. The babies were left to themselves daily, even though they were fed., they died. There were hundreds. The test proved what they should have known, they needed a Mother's love, a Mother's touch, a Mother's voice, and a Mother's love. Go figure!!!

What I am saying is that, psycological impairment will present whether there is a mold issue or not on these tests and it is impossible to distinquish between prior and after exposure. The cognitive tests are better for that. You can also set yourself up to lose your case if the Judge or Jury is convinced this was a pre-existant problem. We all should learn from Melinda Ballard's case which was not won on medical evidence. It was won because of the truth and damages to her property. While it is disheartening that she couldn't win on the medical issues.She is smart and lucky to have sued for enough to cover both health and property. I heard she won on Property damage and fraud, bad faith.

Because medicine is not an exact science sometimes it is difficult to prove. a cause and effect connection so to speak.. Medical negligence, is easier to prove, particularly when there are no laws that govern toxic mold issues presently. It makes it very important to have a jury on these cases, because most states only require a "preponderance of the evidence" which most of us can prove.

In my own personal case the psychologist had difficulty believing who my family was. He made that an issue. Of course I am suing him presently, so now he will meet my family!!! Such is the life in a family of the Rich and Famous, see they even have problems in a different way.

Sometimes, predjudices happen in medicine too. We see it everyday with Medicaid and Medicare discrimination. I once had a physician refuse to treat my children during all of this. She tried to put me on tranquilizers.. It would have killed me because I was already having heart problems from carbon-monoxide. My heart was surpressed as well as my brain functions. Then another offered a muscle relaxer. That would have been "curtains" certain death. I finally got real impatient and said "Look just because you take Prozac doesn't mean everyone wants to! Ha!"

You are positively right. Shop around for psycological work. Some are honest, some are not. Not everyone in the medical field abides by the HIPPOCRATIC OATH, some abide only by the "$"

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thelisamisa <thelisamisa@...> wrote: ,You could request to do only the neuro tests, but the report would not be considered an accurate neuropsychological evaluation without the MMPI (psychological) test along with the neuro-cognitive tests. Doing only the cognitive tests could provide good information to you or your doctor but would not be considered an accurate or complete evaluation for medical or legal purposes. I also think the neuropsychological evaluation is wonderful at finding cognitive impairment...I just cannot stress enough making sure you see the right neuropsychologist. Lucky for me mine was videtaped so I have evidence that the doctor ignored my repeated statements regarding a hearing impairment that she ignored and that skewed my results and her report. > > Crosspost from ... Hello all, > > > > My doctor (not exactly an ally) has ordered a> > neuropsych evaluation. I would > > like to know if anyone can share their experience/s> > regarding documentation > > of illness/impairment through this means. I am> > scared to hear more of the > > same garbage about being "fine". I also am scared> > to hear "psychogenic > > origin" (which we all know is utter falsity, but> > that never stops'em). > > Please share what you can. Thank you so much.> > > > K> > stinkypouf@a...> > > > > > > __________________________________________________>

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