Re: Joe Kleins Website

[Guest guest]

So basically you are saying that everything that used to be in a

moldy environment has to be trashed?? Also that it is a good idea I

just shaved my hair off??

Do you have scientific studies, research, links demonstrating what

you just said?

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

My personal experience is discussed at my web site www.stachy.5u.com. The opinions expressed by myself and others are largely anecdotal. However, I have spent my professional career as an orthopaedic surgeon where the issue of contamination is not anecdotal. The standard garb for an operating orthopaedic surgeon includes head to toe coverings including shoe covers, pants, gown and elaborate head coverings. Head coverings at a minimum include a hood which covers every inch of hair, sideburns etc. In addition a full face mask is worn with a protective face shield. For some surgeries, a “space suite” is worn with a bubble/helmet covering the entire head and neck. All air the surgeon exhales is carried outside the operating room by a special exhaust system hooked up to the surgeons head covering (helmet). Contamination is not only an issue for surgeons, it is also an issue for chip makers like Intel. The workers in Intel’s clean rooms, where chips are being manufactured wear the ultimate in “space suits” featuring head to toe covering. Also, the rooms have air filters which are capable of removing very minute particles from the air. Shampooing/washing the hair is not an acceptable method to avoid contamination in either of these environments. It simply can’t get rid of the contamination in a person’s hair. There is simply too much total surface area (combined surface area of all hairs) and too much overlapping of the hairs to thoroughly clean them for the purposes of decontamination. I therefore believe that these principals are transferable to the issue of mold spore/mycotoxin contamination.

Also, Bonnie, here is a post which typifies other posts I have viewed/received which parallel my experiences.

"Subject: [] Joe Kleins Website

From: "erik_johnson_96140" <erikj6@...>

Date: Thu, 25 Apr 2002 15:59:20 -0000

It's absolutely awesome to hear someone else describe the ability of hair to maintain and transport the mold. I found that wool garments are no different.I noticed that some contaminated places give me a huge "hit" but that I could walk away and recover without decontamination. Other places might hit me less, but I would carry the "reaction" with me. This led me to believe that the neurotoxic reaction was to aerosolized mycotoxins and not necessarily inhalation of spores.I tested this by placing a contaminated article in HEPA filters and taking it to my "clean" place. I put it under six layers of blankets and slept on it. I got the usual reaction and removed the article but went back to sleep on the same blankets. The reaction was gone.This convinced me that that spores had not penetrated the filter or blankets and that the toxic gas was truly my primary irritant.This was confirmed by Dr Marinkovich who told me that a housing project in Sweden had recently been identified with sick inhabitants but no spores could be found. Only when the walls were opened up were the colonies found, but they were so tightly sealed in the walls that only the toxic gas could escape.Many places that give me mold hits are strictly VOC hits and not spores. When I leave these areas I do not have to bother with decontamination.-"

J.

bonniescomfortzone <bonniescomfortzone@...> wrote:

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