Hyperlexia

[Guest guest]

Deanna,

You are correct. Hyperlexia is not a stand-alone diagnosis. It's more of a

red flag; a symptom that indicates you probably have a child with an autism

spectrum disorder on your hands. My daughter began reading

spontaneously at age 2 and could read just about anything - magazines,

physics textbooks, you name it. Her first word was " three. " At 2 1/2, she

developed (without being taught) a system of counting on her fingers that

included place value. She would hold up her fingers one at a time like

normal as we counted from one to nine, but when we said ten she would make a

fist with her right hand and hold up the index finger of the left. If we

said eleven, she would hold up both index fingers. For twelve, she would

show you the index finger of her left hand and two fingers on the right, and

so on right on up to 55. She no longer qualifies as truly hyperlexic now, at

7, because she does comprehend quite well what she reads. Echolalia and a

fascination with counting is not necessarily hyperlexia. You need to see an

extremely precocious ability to decode words. By the way, I was also able to

read at 2 but nobody had ever heard of hyperlexia way back then.

Janette

http://home.sprintmail.com/~janettevance/

The Asperger's Express

Re: Digest Number 633

Hi Dannilynn- , correct me if I'm wrong, Hyperlexia is not a

stand-alone diagnosois or it shouldn't be anyway. At the very least

it would be Hyperlexia with Autistic Tendencies. Labels, Labels,

Labels...Don't let it drive you crazy, I don't even care anymore, she

is who she is and I love her.

Deanna

> , hi this hyerlexia sounds like my three year old a lot of

echolalia,and

> she does like to count she has some social problems,but not as bad

as a lot

> of other autisic kids i've seen i would like to chech into this are

they

> diagnosing our children wrong or is this common with autisics?

[Guest guest]

Hi Janette- hey, how was your homeschooling experience last year?

Have you found another Montessori school for your girl?

Deanna

> > , hi this hyerlexia sounds like my three year old a lot of

> echolalia,and

> > she does like to count she has some social problems,but not as bad

> as a lot

> > of other autisic kids i've seen i would like to chech into this

are

> they

> > diagnosing our children wrong or is this common with autisics?

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hyperlexia is not a medical diagnosis, as far as I know. When we were first researching why our daughter was developing the way she was,

the first thing that fit was Hyperlexia. So we thought, oh...that's it...but

when we got aroung to school evals, the psychs' didn't even know what hyperlexia

was. As a matter of fact, I'll bet if you ask doctors, psych's and other professionals,

osome of them won't know what it is. With my daughter, it is a " part " of her Autism. I think some people are more apt to want their children to be Hyperlexic rather

than Autisitic, because it has positive traits associated with it. Penny-------------------------------------------------------- " Just remember this: Plenty of Horsepower, No Traction " - R. S. on

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The url is www.hyperlexia.org.

Funny thing is when I looked at the list of traits, I found MYSELF there as well

as my daughter!

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[Guest guest]

The easiest way to explain Hyperlexia is early reader. Most children that

receive that diagnosis from what I've found have started reading well before

it is expected for a child at a particular developmental level/age. From what

I've discovered there is a controversy as to whether to label it a language

disorder or group it in the autism spectrum disorders as 'symptoms' of both

appear in the children. One problem with Hyperlexia is the children seem to

learn language in blocks and phrases, as one site put it, learning English for

children with Hyperlexia is like an adult trying to learn French from a

Guidebook. You could learn the phrase you needed but you wouldn't really learn

French.

Cari

[Guest guest]

The easiest way to explain Hyperlexia is early reader. Most children that

receive that diagnosis from what I've found have started reading well before

it is expected for a child at a particular developmental level/age. From what

I've discovered there is a controversy as to whether to label it a language

disorder or group it in the autism spectrum disorders as 'symptoms' of both

appear in the children. One problem with Hyperlexia is the children seem to

learn language in blocks and phrases, as one site put it, learning English for

children with Hyperlexia is like an adult trying to learn French from a

Guidebook. You could learn the phrase you needed but you wouldn't really learn

French.

Cari

[Guest guest]

my daughter non ds was also on adderal at one point , it made her eratable

and cranky all the time so took her off it she is now on concerta and doing

good with that , so i think its the adderal that causes this and would talk

to the dr about chaging meds ...

Angel mom to 4, ( 13 adhd)( 12)

(ia 7 months) and (ie DS)

()()

-- Hyperlexia

Okay folks, I've got a question for you. Does anyone here have a child

(with DS), besides me, that also has a diagnosis of Hyperlexia

Developmental

Delay Disorder? If so, how is it being addressed? Nick is on Adderall Xr

5mg.

(Was on Adderall Xr 10mg., but became, in my opinion, overly irritable,

cranky and whiny at that dosage. We also saw an increase in sleep problems

) The

problem we are having on the lower dose is the inappropriate behaviors are

increasing. (Nick received 3 demerits from August until September while on

10mg. Upon returning to school after the Christmas Break (and on 5 mg.)

his

behaviors increased resulting in to date 13 demerits (total for year 16).)

Thanks!

Cari

[Guest guest]

my daughter non ds was also on adderal at one point , it made her eratable

and cranky all the time so took her off it she is now on concerta and doing

good with that , so i think its the adderal that causes this and would talk

to the dr about chaging meds ...

Angel mom to 4, ( 13 adhd)( 12)

(ia 7 months) and (ie DS)

()()

-- Hyperlexia

Okay folks, I've got a question for you. Does anyone here have a child

(with DS), besides me, that also has a diagnosis of Hyperlexia

Developmental

Delay Disorder? If so, how is it being addressed? Nick is on Adderall Xr

5mg.

(Was on Adderall Xr 10mg., but became, in my opinion, overly irritable,

cranky and whiny at that dosage. We also saw an increase in sleep problems

) The

problem we are having on the lower dose is the inappropriate behaviors are

increasing. (Nick received 3 demerits from August until September while on

10mg. Upon returning to school after the Christmas Break (and on 5 mg.)

his

behaviors increased resulting in to date 13 demerits (total for year 16).)

Thanks!

Cari

[Guest guest]

What is hyperplexia???

Hyperlexia

Okay folks, I've got a question for you. Does anyone here have a child

(with DS), besides me, that also has a diagnosis of Hyperlexia

Developmental

Delay Disorder? If so, how is it being addressed? Nick is on Adderall Xr

5mg.

(Was on Adderall Xr 10mg., but became, in my opinion, overly irritable,

cranky and whiny at that dosage. We also saw an increase in sleep problems

) The

problem we are having on the lower dose is the inappropriate behaviors are

increasing. (Nick received 3 demerits from August until September while on

10mg. Upon returning to school after the Christmas Break (and on 5 mg.)

his

behaviors increased resulting in to date 13 demerits (total for year 16).)

Thanks!

Cari

[Guest guest]

What is hyperplexia???

Hyperlexia

Okay folks, I've got a question for you. Does anyone here have a child

(with DS), besides me, that also has a diagnosis of Hyperlexia

Developmental

Delay Disorder? If so, how is it being addressed? Nick is on Adderall Xr

5mg.

(Was on Adderall Xr 10mg., but became, in my opinion, overly irritable,

cranky and whiny at that dosage. We also saw an increase in sleep problems

) The

problem we are having on the lower dose is the inappropriate behaviors are

increasing. (Nick received 3 demerits from August until September while on

10mg. Upon returning to school after the Christmas Break (and on 5 mg.)

his

behaviors increased resulting in to date 13 demerits (total for year 16).)

Thanks!

Cari

[Guest guest]

what is hyperlexia? Is it related to ADHD? My Nic is on Dexadrine 10mg. Had

switched him to strattera at Christmas and it made his violent/aggressive.

Di

Hyperlexia

Okay folks, I've got a question for you. Does anyone here have a child

(with DS), besides me, that also has a diagnosis of Hyperlexia

Developmental

Delay Disorder? If so, how is it being addressed? Nick is on Adderall Xr

5mg.

(Was on Adderall Xr 10mg., but became, in my opinion, overly irritable,

cranky and whiny at that dosage. We also saw an increase in sleep problems

) The

problem we are having on the lower dose is the inappropriate behaviors are

increasing. (Nick received 3 demerits from August until September while on

10mg. Upon returning to school after the Christmas Break (and on 5 mg.)

his

behaviors increased resulting in to date 13 demerits (total for year 16).)

Thanks!

Cari

[Guest guest]

what is hyperlexia? Is it related to ADHD? My Nic is on Dexadrine 10mg. Had

switched him to strattera at Christmas and it made his violent/aggressive.

Di

Hyperlexia

Okay folks, I've got a question for you. Does anyone here have a child

(with DS), besides me, that also has a diagnosis of Hyperlexia

Developmental

Delay Disorder? If so, how is it being addressed? Nick is on Adderall Xr

5mg.

(Was on Adderall Xr 10mg., but became, in my opinion, overly irritable,

cranky and whiny at that dosage. We also saw an increase in sleep problems

) The

problem we are having on the lower dose is the inappropriate behaviors are

increasing. (Nick received 3 demerits from August until September while on

10mg. Upon returning to school after the Christmas Break (and on 5 mg.)

his

behaviors increased resulting in to date 13 demerits (total for year 16).)

Thanks!

Cari

[Guest guest]

so where does the Adderall come in?

Di

Re: Hyperlexia

The easiest way to explain Hyperlexia is early reader. Most children that

receive that diagnosis from what I've found have started reading well before

it is expected for a child at a particular developmental level/age. From

what

I've discovered there is a controversy as to whether to label it a language

disorder or group it in the autism spectrum disorders as 'symptoms' of both

appear in the children. One problem with Hyperlexia is the children seem to

learn language in blocks and phrases, as one site put it, learning English

for

children with Hyperlexia is like an adult trying to learn French from a

Guidebook. You could learn the phrase you needed but you wouldn't really

learn

French.

Cari

[Guest guest]

so where does the Adderall come in?

Di

Re: Hyperlexia

The easiest way to explain Hyperlexia is early reader. Most children that

receive that diagnosis from what I've found have started reading well before

it is expected for a child at a particular developmental level/age. From

what

I've discovered there is a controversy as to whether to label it a language

disorder or group it in the autism spectrum disorders as 'symptoms' of both

appear in the children. One problem with Hyperlexia is the children seem to

learn language in blocks and phrases, as one site put it, learning English

for

children with Hyperlexia is like an adult trying to learn French from a

Guidebook. You could learn the phrase you needed but you wouldn't really

learn

French.

Cari

[Guest guest]

Here's another website about Hyperlexia:

http://hyperlexia.org/

The website is inactive, but still has a lot of great information. There is also a link to a group on the main page.

My son is hyperlexic -- the main problem is that he could always read words above his age range, but didn't know what they meant (lack of comprehension).

Sandi

Philadelphia, PA

[Guest guest]

Same here....my son is also hyperlexic and was reading by 3, but stuggled with comprehension.-- ssmcnally@... wrote:

My son is hyperlexic -- the main problem is that he could always read words above his age range, but didn't know what they meant (lack of comprehension).

Sandi

Philadelphia, PA

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[Guest guest]

Hyperlexia is a disease of it’s

own. You can have both or only one. My son has both. Hyperlexia

is the ability to decode words but not comprehend them. Dyslexia is the

inability to decode but you can comprehend. NSLD is when you can’t

do either. My son can read anything you put in front of him phonetically –

a newspaper, anything, but cannot answer wh questions about it nor explain what

he read. L

Hey, the “ONE LESS”

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From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of christine

Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007

10:30 PM

EOHarm

Subject: hyperlexia

Does

anyone know the difference between Hyperlexia and Autism?

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

Not sure. I was never on the spectrum, but had a college reading level by the

time I was in

the fifth grade. But even with that, I wouldn't call it hyperlexia. I read a LOT

back then. I think

that term applies to someone who has fluent reading very early, like

kindergarten.

>

> Does anyone know the difference between Hyperlexia and Autism?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

[Guest guest]

Andy Cutler has said this the diagnosis a child gets when he/she is smarter than

the

doctor's kids. Many " gifted " kids are reading fluently at ages 2 and 3.

I think there may be some kind of link between intelligence and vulnerability to

mercury

toxicity. IMO " hyperlexic " kids are probably the really smart kids who start

reading early,

but are so mercury etc. toxic, they have comprehension problems, or, more likely

can't

fluently express what they understand, or can't understand what they are being

asked

about what they have read (due to CAPD) or attention issues.

Sue

> >

> > Does anyone know the difference between Hyperlexia and Autism?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear ,

Traditionally, hyperlexia was a term to describe a savant skill in people with autism, which assumed the ability to read at a very young age without comprehension. It is also a term used to describe a group of children who have social and behavioral deficits parallel to those of austistic children but who are fascinated by numbers and letters and who teach themselves to read before the age of five. This term was popularized by speech pathologists Phyllis Kupperman and Sally Bligh at the Center for Speech and Language Disorders in Elmhurst, Illinois. This is not a DSM disgnosis and would only be provided by SLP's. When my son was little I was very involved on the hyperlexia listservs and there was a great deal of debate and arguing as to whether hyperlexia was on the spectrum or was a different disorder with a more positive outcome. The thing is that since both autism and hyperlexia are defined behaviorally and both share many characteristics, any child diagnosed with hyperlexia would automatically get a diagnosis of pdd-nos at least. The good thing about hyperlexia is that because the kids can read, you can use this skill to help them which may be result in improved outcome. For example, instructions can be written down so the child can read and follow them. My son Avi, now twelve was evaluated at 3.5 at the CSLD in Chicago and was found to have the reading level of a kid in the middle of first grade. His reading was amazing but he couldn't answer a wh question correctly. When Avi was young his reading ability made him stand out ( he started reading words at age 2) but now the other kids have caught up so he doesn't stand out so much anymore. There us a book written by s called Reading Too Soon which describes the "hyperlexic learing style". In my personal opinion, hyperlexic kids are a sub group of kids on the autistic spectrum. I haven't been involved with the hyperlexic community for many years so my information may be out of date about what people think hyperlexia is. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any more questions.

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From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of christineSent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007 10:30 PMEOHarm Subject: hyperlexia

Does anyone know the difference between Hyperlexia and Autism?Thanks,

[Guest guest]

hi... my son is hyperlexic... meets all criteria. It is classified as a language learning disorder. with pdd symptoms that drop off as language increases. The prognosis as stated by the ASA in some journals as good. NOW... I do believe that mercury is responsible for this AS WELL. there is huge debate as if hyperlexia is in fact autism with this "twist ".. my son sounds and acts different than some kids with autism or aspergers. HE STRUGGLES WITH PUTTING SENTENCES TOGETHER and has struggles with who .. what.. the w questions. The kid with hyperlexia knows the answers.. but does not understand the question. The website is great. My son is fixated on the written word and was spelling with plastic letters at 2. he spelled logos and needed to read to calm down. today... he does not have many pdd symptoms... other than "train talk".. thomas the tank engine.. do you think there is a THOMAS INDUCED AUTISM?????????????????????????????????????lololo... LiaSee what's free at AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

very true.. my son is an EXCELLENT DECODER but struggles with comphrension. BUT.... if it is about his love of something.. he absorbs just fine.. LiaSee what's free at AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

right on stacy... so great to hear a parent describe it just so... LiaSee what's free at AOL.com.

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I don't want to say anything to hurt anyone.. but truly.. If I had a nickle for everytime an autism teacher said to me.. "I NEVER HAD A STUDENT LIKE CHRISTOS"... I would be rich. The hyperlexia makes the child stand out. My son has more typical behaviors and the kids with hyperlexia act different but then, they don't.. hard to explain..nonethe less... he still had the diahrrea.. the tantrums... the rashes... the food elimination.. the bad leaky gut dx's.. the long chain fatty acid absorption issues... we don't know how the mecury.."DECIDES" who will be more severe or mild or hyperlexic or adhd... that is the mystery and the nightmare.. LiaSee what's free at AOL.com.

[Guest guest]

Andy Cutler is no-so-gifted then.

Hyperlexia is an actual learning disability marked by real criteria. It’s

not just precocious reading – it must be accompanied by substantial lack

of comprehension skills. CAPD and ADD do not eliminate your ability to

comprehend.

From: EOHarm [mailto:EOHarm ] On Behalf Of learningstillalways

Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2007

11:56 PM

EOHarm

Subject: Re: hyperlexia

Andy Cutler has said this the diagnosis a child gets

when he/she is smarter than the

doctor's kids. Many " gifted " kids are reading fluently at ages 2 and

3.

I think there may be some kind of link between intelligence and vulnerability

to mercury

toxicity. IMO " hyperlexic " kids are probably the really smart kids

who start reading early,

but are so mercury etc. toxic, they have comprehension problems, or, more

likely can't

fluently express what they understand, or can't understand what they are being

asked

about what they have read (due to CAPD) or attention issues.

Sue

> >

> > Does anyone know the difference between Hyperlexia and Autism?

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

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