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Hi Chris

So you're off and running, eh? We don't start until Tuesday and it will be a

hard year for my son, too, in Gr. 10, since he's going full-fledged academic

level (university-bound in Canada). Last year he was in a less-demanding

'applied' level for English. Not this year. In other words, we've pulled out one

of his 'crutches'. Should be interesting.

I was impressed that one of your son's teachers would offer the safety of her

room should he need time away. It's great that she could see this as a need he

might have. My son would never use it, but at least you'd know that this teacher

has some insight and understanding of his stresses.

I'm wondering how you manage to 'explain' your son on an open house night. The

few times I've gone, I've felt so rushed that I couldn't imagine getting into

the whole complicated explanation. Have you ever tried setting up a meeting with

the semester teachers? That's what we did last year, and will likely again. At

the beginning of the semester my dh and I meet with them and the special ed

consultant and bring our 'Summary of Sam' sheet that describes his behaviour as

it relates to the classroom, what to expect and what's motivating him. So far,

the teachers have seemed open and curious. I've found that few really take the

time to look at my son's IEP otherwise, even if I mention that he has one. This

way, they're a captive audience and they're forewarned. And later, should

difficutlies arise, they've got this 'background paper' - Summary of Sam, to

refer back to.

I like your idea, though, of suggesting they watch for changes and keep in

touch. That's so important.

kimz

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Hi Kim,

When started 9th grade there, we had to meet to set up his

504 Plan, as here it doesn't transfer on over to the high school. I

guess because the set-up is different or something, don't know. So

was told at end of middle school, we'd be writing up the 504 Plan

again in 9th. So I met with 1st semester teachers, the school psych

(who covers several schools) and the guidance counselor. Pretty much

we just carried on over all from middle school, but still had to

write on a new Plan. Oh, and that was when I added the Aspergers

diagnosis also, that he'd gotten the last of 8th grade. Then I met

with 2nd semester teachers for 9th.

I know I didn't meet with 10th grade 2nd semester teachers for a 504

meeting, I'm trying to recall did I meet with 1st semester 10th

grade.... I decided at some point since he was doing well, not to

meet and see how things went. So I didn't plan to set up an official

meeting this year (11th) either, but do want teachers to be aware he

has a plan since he is going to be worked so hard (hasn't had this

much work at one time the prior 2 years) and he's not on medication.

I didn't figure they'd know yet he had a 504, really would have been

surprised if they had (past experience!).

(Of course in middle school, there were many meetings, that's when

all the problems were. Had never heard of a 504 Plan until then.)

Apparently this was a last-minute open house so unless kids told

parents or something, no one knew, so it wasn't that crowded. So I

lucked up in being able to talk with the teachers a bit with no one

to hear.

Hopefully nothing will turn up this year, but if problems arise that

the 504 addresses and a teacher isn't following the 504, the school's

principal will be hearing from me as it's THEIR responsibility to

follow it, just as important as an IEP. It'll depend on what mood

I'm in as to just how I'd deal with it, LOL! Sometimes I'm ready for

a good " fight " and other times I'm in a nicer mood! ;) Whenever

issues have arose with , I think of all those other kids in

school who aren't getting their needs met and feel like making sure

the school personnel get trained quickly in what their responsibility

is.

I'm already a bit " miffed " at the state school system in that they

give a Writing Test to students in certain grades where the scores

show if they are at Level I, II, III or IV. II or below is failing.

Well, the test is only for " school accountability " and doesn't affect

the student. Well, if they are not at a III then they are not at

grade level. doesn't get III's. Actually &

each got a II last year. So, again as I did in 7th grade when

failed, I asked what was the school going to do about it,

they're not on grade level, college is in a couple years, etc.

Well...guidance said I'll just have to let this year's English

teacher know so she can work with them, blah, blah, blah. Doesn't

even say WHY they failed the writing test. Ha! Anyway, I feel the

school accountability stuff is just...garbage I guess, high schools

don't address it; and middle school didn't, just had retake

it and we never found out if he passed the 2nd time. I think 4th

grade might work with the failing students. The state gives the

writing test in 4th, 7th and 10th grades. Oh well, if I'm in

my " fighter " mood one day, I might write a letter to the state! The

end-of-course tests count against the student though, have to pass

those.

Enough venting, LOL!

's taking more " honors " courses this year too (this semester)

so I'm sure your son and he will both be working hard. It WILL be

interesting for both of them (and us!). Only my kids are now beyond

my knowledge in their classes, as I didn't take the college-bound

courses so my math, science, etc., classes didn't go as high as

their's. I will be NO help!

> Hi Chris

> So you're off and running, eh? We don't start until Tuesday and it

will be a hard year for my son, too, in Gr. 10, since he's going full-

fledged academic level (university-bound in Canada). Last year he was

in a less-demanding 'applied' level for English. Not this year. In

other words, we've pulled out one of his 'crutches'. Should be

interesting.

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Hi Kim,

When started 9th grade there, we had to meet to set up his

504 Plan, as here it doesn't transfer on over to the high school. I

guess because the set-up is different or something, don't know. So

was told at end of middle school, we'd be writing up the 504 Plan

again in 9th. So I met with 1st semester teachers, the school psych

(who covers several schools) and the guidance counselor. Pretty much

we just carried on over all from middle school, but still had to

write on a new Plan. Oh, and that was when I added the Aspergers

diagnosis also, that he'd gotten the last of 8th grade. Then I met

with 2nd semester teachers for 9th.

I know I didn't meet with 10th grade 2nd semester teachers for a 504

meeting, I'm trying to recall did I meet with 1st semester 10th

grade.... I decided at some point since he was doing well, not to

meet and see how things went. So I didn't plan to set up an official

meeting this year (11th) either, but do want teachers to be aware he

has a plan since he is going to be worked so hard (hasn't had this

much work at one time the prior 2 years) and he's not on medication.

I didn't figure they'd know yet he had a 504, really would have been

surprised if they had (past experience!).

(Of course in middle school, there were many meetings, that's when

all the problems were. Had never heard of a 504 Plan until then.)

Apparently this was a last-minute open house so unless kids told

parents or something, no one knew, so it wasn't that crowded. So I

lucked up in being able to talk with the teachers a bit with no one

to hear.

Hopefully nothing will turn up this year, but if problems arise that

the 504 addresses and a teacher isn't following the 504, the school's

principal will be hearing from me as it's THEIR responsibility to

follow it, just as important as an IEP. It'll depend on what mood

I'm in as to just how I'd deal with it, LOL! Sometimes I'm ready for

a good " fight " and other times I'm in a nicer mood! ;) Whenever

issues have arose with , I think of all those other kids in

school who aren't getting their needs met and feel like making sure

the school personnel get trained quickly in what their responsibility

is.

I'm already a bit " miffed " at the state school system in that they

give a Writing Test to students in certain grades where the scores

show if they are at Level I, II, III or IV. II or below is failing.

Well, the test is only for " school accountability " and doesn't affect

the student. Well, if they are not at a III then they are not at

grade level. doesn't get III's. Actually &

each got a II last year. So, again as I did in 7th grade when

failed, I asked what was the school going to do about it,

they're not on grade level, college is in a couple years, etc.

Well...guidance said I'll just have to let this year's English

teacher know so she can work with them, blah, blah, blah. Doesn't

even say WHY they failed the writing test. Ha! Anyway, I feel the

school accountability stuff is just...garbage I guess, high schools

don't address it; and middle school didn't, just had retake

it and we never found out if he passed the 2nd time. I think 4th

grade might work with the failing students. The state gives the

writing test in 4th, 7th and 10th grades. Oh well, if I'm in

my " fighter " mood one day, I might write a letter to the state! The

end-of-course tests count against the student though, have to pass

those.

Enough venting, LOL!

's taking more " honors " courses this year too (this semester)

so I'm sure your son and he will both be working hard. It WILL be

interesting for both of them (and us!). Only my kids are now beyond

my knowledge in their classes, as I didn't take the college-bound

courses so my math, science, etc., classes didn't go as high as

their's. I will be NO help!

> Hi Chris

> So you're off and running, eh? We don't start until Tuesday and it

will be a hard year for my son, too, in Gr. 10, since he's going full-

fledged academic level (university-bound in Canada). Last year he was

in a less-demanding 'applied' level for English. Not this year. In

other words, we've pulled out one of his 'crutches'. Should be

interesting.

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Hi Chris. It sounds like you had a good open house experience. It is great

that is taking on extra challenges this year. I am impressed that so

far he is handling it and without meds. That is great. It is good to know if

it gets to be too much that his teachers appear willing to help. I am wishing

him an enjoyable year. Keep us updated on how he does. Kim

In a message dated 9/2/2005 2:51:49 PM Central Standard Time,

@... writes:

So - is loaded with work each nite and is on no meds. I even

reminded him earlier this week that we have inositol powder AND

Celexa, to let me know if he needs either. He used to break around

the holidays it seems to me, so we shall see!

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In a message dated 9/2/2005 6:54:35 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

writes:

So far, the teachers have seemed open and curious. I've found that few

really take the time to look at my son's IEP otherwise, even if I mention that

he

has one.

I've found the same. During the first week of school I sent an email to all

the teachers, as well as 's school counselor, who knows all the

details. She's in 8th grade and is on a 504. I mentioned the current

compulsions,

her rubberband phobia (if she jumps up and screams, it's not an act), her

tics, and a short description of OCD. I also mentioned that she was on a

number

of meds -- and if she was yawning in class, not to take it personally, but

to let me know if it became too frequent. Finally, I mention that the meds

tend to make her gassy and to please allow her to go to the restroom as needed.

All the teachers were very appreciative of the info, and wrote back to say

she seemed to be doing well -- Whew! I also use the email to give heads up on

high anxiety days or doctor appts. Suzanne in CA

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  • 3 years later...

My 13 yr old ds can still be this way sometimes. I find he is more

like this when I am around. He just looks at it when he gets this way

that he is in a movie and then he is ok. He knows that the people

will go away soon and he can back home to relax and draw. He already

has an IEP in place and he gets one on one time with that teacher 1

hour a day. That is his oasis.

If you have your IEP in place, i would insist that he gets that one

on one time. It will help recharge his battery and give him someone

that he can go to when he starts to feel panic.

Good luck!

Janice in Wisconsin

On Aug 28, 2009, at 9:02 PM, debbieln60 wrote:

> Last evening was the open house at our son's new high school.

> This is going to be his first year back at regular public

> schooling. For the last 3 yrs. homeschooled, with the last 2 years

> via online virtual academy here in Minnesota. Caleb is 15.

> We picked up his schedule. We were hoping to go to each room and

> hopefully meet his teachers. We did pick up the schedule. He

> said, ok..please let's go. I asked him if he wanted to go up to

> his classes. He was mildly panicked. He all but jogged back to the

> car. There was a lot of people there. He said 'please, let's just

> go'. I asked him if he was alright. He said yes, I just want to

> leave. I had my tour the other day.

> When we got home. He was calmed down. I asked him were you a

> little overwhelmed with everyone. He admitted he was. He then

> said, I will be fine. I know this isn't going to be easy, but I

> need this. He then admitted that he would be 'praying alot to keep

> calm'.

> So, here is my concern. I wonder what Tuesday will bring. He is

> going to take the bus. He insists on that, and I am fine with it.

> Actually proud that he made that decision. But, what if he gets

> off the bus and walks in and just freaks. I am wondering if I

> would be able to ask his social worker there at school if she could

> meet him at the door and just reassure him.

> What do y'all think?

>

>

>

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That might not be a bad idea...but would your son be upset with that decision? The social worker could be there just to keep an eye on him and make it look like she wasn't just waiting for him. If your son does freak....I am sure the school will handle it okay...most likely they will call you unless they can calm him down.

We have a girl in our school....who freaks out and it has been getting worse....I have worked with her...we ususally go for walks and talk it out ...we don't go back to the classroom until she is completely calm...sometimes we take her to the library as she loves to read and this will calm her down. I think there was only 1 time we had to call her mom to come pick her up.

Will your son have a Paraprofessional (TSS) in school or know where he can go when he is overwhelmed? Do the teachers all know that he can feel panicky and know how to handle this or where to send him? Maybe he could have a buddy?

Just a few ideas...and my son is panicing too...he is going into a new school (same kids) but it is a bigger school and he has been in the same school since 1st grade. So this is a big thing for him. And, would you believe that they give the kids 4 min. to get to classes.

jan

Janice Rushen

"I will try to be open to all avenues of wisdom and hope"

From: debbieln60 <Debbieln60@...>Subject: ( ) School open house Date: Friday, August 28, 2009, 10:02 PM

Last evening was the open house at our son's new high school.This is going to be his first year back at regular public schooling. For the last 3 yrs. homeschooled, with the last 2 years via online virtual academy here in Minnesota. Caleb is 15.We picked up his schedule. We were hoping to go to each room and hopefully meet his teachers. We did pick up the schedule. He said, ok..please let's go. I asked him if he wanted to go up to his classes. He was mildly panicked. He all but jogged back to the car. There was a lot of people there. He said 'please, let's just go'. I asked him if he was alright. He said yes, I just want to leave. I had my tour the other day.When we got home. He was calmed down. I asked him were you a little overwhelmed with everyone. He admitted he was. He then said, I will be fine. I know this isn't going to be easy, but I need this. He then admitted that he would be 'praying alot to keep calm'.So, here is my

concern. I wonder what Tuesday will bring. He is going to take the bus. He insists on that, and I am fine with it. Actually proud that he made that decision. But, what if he gets off the bus and walks in and just freaks. I am wondering if I would be able to ask his social worker there at school if she could meet him at the door and just reassure him.What do y'all think?

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> I am wondering if I would be able to ask his social worker there at school if

she could meet him at the door and just reassure him.

> What do y'all think?

I think that would be highly embarrassing for a teenage boy and very not good

for his public image. What I would suggest is having someone simply there to

keep an eye on him, just in case. If they understand his needs, they may

already be planning on doing this and just not have said much. I would ask the

school what their plans are for handling this.

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Good idea.  I never thought about the embarrassment.  See how good it is to talk

with other folks.  I just feel like a new mom sort of...not knowing how or what to do

with all this.  Thanks a bunch!  I will be talking with her Monday, and will ask her about

that.

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 10:04 AM, r_woman2 <me2ruth@...> wrote:

 

>> I am wondering if I would be able to ask his social worker there at school if she could meet him at the door and just reassure him.

> What do y'all think?I think that would be highly embarrassing for a teenage boy and very not good for his public image. What I would suggest is having someone simply there to keep an eye on him, just in case. If they understand his needs, they may already be planning on doing this and just not have said much. I would ask the school what their plans are for handling this.

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He had a tour of the building last Monday.  I like the idea of going in again

this Monday.  I am thinking if I took the afternoon off from work and brought

him over there that would be ideal.  I know she wanted to meet with us again 

before school started..so, perhaps this will be a good time.

I appreciate the feed back from everyone so far. 

Thanks!!

Deb

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 7:11 AM, Ellen <e.c.bernard@...> wrote:

 

Debbie,I teach in a junior high, not high school, so I am not sure how your highschool works, as we don't have an open house as you described.Does you school start Tuesday but the teachers/staff are there Monday?

If so, could you get a map of the building, and highlight his schedule'srooms and find out where students report that first day?Help him figure out how to get to that location. Maybe take him in on Monday

and without the other students around, have him walk through his schedule?You could probably arrange this with his social worker or guidancecounselor. If you can't do that on Monday, in my building, I think the social worker or

guidance counselor would field your call and agree to either meet your sonas you suggested, or, if they have quite a few such requests as we are a bigbuilding, see if a student, perhaps a neighbor or other acquaintance known

to your son could accompany him to his homeroom, or wherever they go thefirst day. Are all the students in your son's grade new to the building?Seventh graders are new to the building so we ask at the end of each 7th

grade class " Where are you going? Who else is going to that room? " But if it is an eighth or ninth grade class and most of the students hadbeen in the building the previous year, then the teachers probably wouldn't

do that. So as an 8th or 9th grade teacher I wouldn't know that your sondidn't know the building unless I was told. If I were aware, then I wouldlook at his schedule and find another student going in that direction to

help him.The sw/gc could probably contact the teacher who is with the student at thebeginning of the day, either the homeroom teacher or the first periodteacher and give the teacher a heads up that your son might be anxious.

If our gc told me about the situation, I would probably have the studenthelp me to hand out papers or sharpen pencils or some other little task tokeep his mind from becoming too anxious.In my district, we report on Wednesday for in-services, classes start the

following week. When I was a new teacher, I would go in the previous day, Tuesday, to workon my room even though we can work on it the following Tuesday before thestudents arrive.The first few years, I would be a bit miffed because the tour for new

students would take place and I was interrupted every 10 minutes by adifferent group. But with experience I realized that the tours weren't justfor new students but also for anxious students and their parents. So now I

really don't expect to get any real work done, and I am in my room and takethe time to greet and reassure students. This is outside my contract. Noteacher has to be there. But every year, that time invested in being there

that day pays off with helping students and parents with their anxiety.There are teachers like me all over the country. I hope one of them willtake your son under his or her wing.E.C.Bernard__________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature

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The IEP is not in place yet.  But, they will be doing the eval over the next month.

The social worker thinks it will go quicker than usual as their " docket doesn't seem

very busy thus far'.  Lordy I will be so glad when this is done and we know what is

going to happen.  I am glad though, he seems really up and positive. 

On Sat, Aug 29, 2009 at 6:33 AM, Janice Swartz <janices@...> wrote:

 

My 13 yr old ds can still be this way sometimes. I find he is more like this when I am around. He just looks at it when he gets this way that he is in a movie and then he is ok. He knows that the people will go away soon and he can back home to relax and draw. He already

has an IEP in place and he gets one on one time with that teacher 1 hour a day. That is his oasis.If you have your IEP in place, i would insist that he gets that one on one time. It will help recharge his battery and give him someone

that he can go to when he starts to feel panic.Good luck!Janice in WisconsinOn Aug 28, 2009, at 9:02 PM, debbieln60 wrote:> Last evening was the open house at our son's new high school.

> This is going to be his first year back at regular public > schooling. For the last 3 yrs. homeschooled, with the last 2 years > via online virtual academy here in Minnesota. Caleb is 15.> We picked up his schedule. We were hoping to go to each room and

> hopefully meet his teachers. We did pick up the schedule. He > said, ok..please let's go. I asked him if he wanted to go up to > his classes. He was mildly panicked. He all but jogged back to the

> car. There was a lot of people there. He said 'please, let's just > go'. I asked him if he was alright. He said yes, I just want to > leave. I had my tour the other day.> When we got home. He was calmed down. I asked him were you a

> little overwhelmed with everyone. He admitted he was. He then > said, I will be fine. I know this isn't going to be easy, but I > need this. He then admitted that he would be 'praying alot to keep

> calm'.> So, here is my concern. I wonder what Tuesday will bring. He is > going to take the bus. He insists on that, and I am fine with it. > Actually proud that he made that decision. But, what if he gets

> off the bus and walks in and just freaks. I am wondering if I > would be able to ask his social worker there at school if she could > meet him at the door and just reassure him.> What do y'all think?

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