Guest guest Posted June 29, 2004 Report Share Posted June 29, 2004 Yes, Mt Sterling is a cheese plant in Wisconsin. We have two local dairy goat farmers that sell their milk to them. They both have herds of over 100 milking goats and are making pretty good money right now. They live in Austin and New Richland, Minnesota. By the way, I make kefir all the time with our goat milk and have not had any problem with it being goaty. Believe me, I know what that tastes like! Shari Goats > Thanks, , Mt Sterling is the maker of the goat butter I saw in Winona. I > think it may be from Wisconsin. This could be the start of something big if > there is a market. I've noticed that the number of goat farmers at the grazing > meetings is shooting up. This bodes well for goat milk lovers. Rebekah has > tried the goat kefir but it was way too " goaty " for her. > > I felt bad last spring there was one goat farmer up around St Cloud who was > going to produce something like 30-50 gallons of goat milk a day. It was raw, > organic and pastured but he had no marketing plan. I worked my butt off > trying to help him find a place to market it to no avail. Everyone would say, > " Oh I love goat milk, I could take a half pint every now and then, if it was > delivered and if it is cheap, and if it is certified organic, except I'll be gone all > summer and and and.... " , ha ha, that was too funny. > > I never did find out what happened. He was unable to deliver it or process it, > and, understandably, only wanted to produce the milk. To get it, one would > have had to pick up the ENTIRE lot every day or create a bulk tank system all > of which was more than I wanted to bite off then. He also had plenty of goat > meat as well. I'm sure the Somali market, for one, would love his products. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 You know, we should really refer to the 'goaty' taste as a " bucky " taste since it comes from the males. Especially since that leads me to think of 'Bucky' Fuller and results in a cascade of word associations that ends with a molecular word association that sets me to laughing because of its relationship to the source of that flavor. ...and that's all I should say about that. ;-) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 > You know, we should really refer to the 'goaty' taste as a " bucky " taste since it comes from the > males. *boggle* , since when did bucks start producing milk? ~Joe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 30, 2004 Report Share Posted June 30, 2004 > *boggle* , since when did bucks start producing milk? > ~Joe Funny! Seriously though, I'm told that bucks hanging with the does make for funky milk...funky like old socks not funky like Moloko from A Clockwork Orange. Apparently their musk or something is able to permeate everything. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2005 Report Share Posted July 18, 2005 I am also looking for ways to feed goats without the use of grain. Our goats here at Camphill get a mixture of grains, mostly oats, with some sunflower seeds as a treat. They also seem to enjoy pea pods, kale, willow, and other leftovers from the garden. I'm wondering if I can reduce their grain when they are getting all these good veggies. I talked to our beef farmer and she said that the only grain they use with the cattle is a very small amount of oats for the babies in winter. I am very impressed with the farming here. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Lynn, I used to work as a nurse on a cruise ship (in a past life-or at least many moons ago when I was young and single). I used to eat curried goat alot at a restaurant in Jamaica. They had the goats tied up outside! I agree it is good; can sometimes be a little tough and stringy though. Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 19, 2005 Report Share Posted August 19, 2005 Depends on how old the goat is and how it's cooked. Lynn I used to eat curried goat alot at a > restaurant in Jamaica. They had the goats tied up outside! I agree it is good; > can sometimes be a little tough and stringy though. > > Kathy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 Sam, We just sold our goats a few months ago after no one in our house could drink the milk anymore, due to allergies (probably due to leaky gut). They are fun pets, and not hard to care for, but you do need to commit to milking everyday, rain, shine, hot, cold, at home or on vacation. Depending on your situation, this can tie you down a lot. We were lucky to have a neighborhood teenager who liked to milk, and she would care for them whenever we left town. Our children loved them, and they are a good wholesome activity for kids, but you need the right set up for them. samadamfamily wrote: thank you so much for that nancy- your totally right, we're not dealing with autism or anything like that just leaky gut which caused the food allergies which we're also dairy, soy and corn free. when we started the WAPF diet i saw a big improvements in my son but my other son still had problems with yeast and gluten. he had whole oats and rice coming out in his bm's so that's when we started SCD. which we were doing fine with just removing illegals but then since doing the stages i got some severe hemmroids from being so backed up so i think we're going to add more veggies like you said. we started the nut muffins too. do you still have your goats? and are the easy to take care of? my dad lives on a farm and we said if the boys could tolerate goat milk we were thinking of getting some goats. > Sam, > > There are 3 of us in my house doing GAPS, and we have done it > differently for each one. We all started right after Thanksgiving by > just removing all illegals (before we really knew about stages). We > were already GF/CF/soy free. We all had mild die off symptoms > (headache, cranky etc). DD2 has only done GAPS this way and is doing > great. With great trepidation, I just gave her 1/8 tsp SCD yogurt this > a.m. and am crossing my fingers that she can tolerate it. She was > constipated the first week or 2 of GAPS, but that has passed. She has > run mucous out of her nose on and off, but has been clear for a few > weeks now. She has color in her cheeks, and looks well. > > With DD1, we went back and started intro right after Christmas as she > just wasn't improving well and she was having stomachaches again. She > started to improve well after intro, but late Jan we went away overnight > and I brought a coconut milk and red lentil soup to eat in the hotel. > The nasal mucous flared big time, as well as the return of the dark > circles under the eyes and looking unwell (it took me a few weeks to > figure out it was probably the coconut causing symptoms.). I put her > back to foods she had tolerated well before, and within 24 hours there > was improvement. We did not progress as slowly as pecanbread > suggested. She is not autistic, so I didn't feel like I had to move > that slowly. We went from intro, added some cooked fruits, added well > cooked veggies, went with easy to digest foods. She still is off of > nuts, dairy, coconut, legumes and is steadily improving, but it is slow, > slow, slow. Her main complaints were nasal congestion which led to poor > sleep, sores under the nose, and general misery. Before going GF she > had headaches, stomachaches and profound fatigue for an 8 year old. She > has been dairy free for ages--after weaning we went to goat milk (even > bought goats) because she couldn't tolerate cows milk, but after a few > years on goat milk, she couldn't tolerate that, either. Almost all of > her dairy in her life has been raw, much of it cultured, but she has > been totally dairy free for maybe 2 years now. > > I have a long list of health complaints, mostly lumped under the heading > of Chronic Fatigue (low blood pressure, dizziness, fatigue, frequent > headaches and the list goes on...). It has taken me almost 3 months on > GAPS to finally tackle intro for myself, mostly because I am intolerant > of eggs and had trouble lasting more than half a day on just soups. I > added SCD yogurt about a month ago (after being dairy free for over a > year), and that has gone OK. So, my version of intro is soups and > yogurt with banana. I am about 8 days into that, and the first 5 or 6 > days I had die off reactions much worse than when I went to GAPS in > Nov--severe headaches, really foul smelling stool, fatigue, crankiness > etc. I am just coming out of all of that, and am planning to add well > cooked veggies in next. > > To answer your question about stages, I think we need to keep in mind > that people on pecanbread are trying to heal their children from very > serious, deep seated health issues, so a really rigorous approach may > make sense for them. If your family is working more with less severe > complaints, I think it makes sense to use a milder version of the diet. > I would still avoid the really hard to digest foods (legumes and the > like), but you may want to add really well cooked veggies and see how > that goes. If I remember, your son passed whole food in his stools--I > would think that would be a good indicator of what he can and can't > tolerate. If something comes out undigested, hold off on that food. > Veggies should help ease the constipation. > > Hope this helps, > > > > > samadamfamily wrote: > > > nancy- did you guys go through the stages (peacanbread stages) or did > > you just intro one > > food at a time or did you just remove all scd illegals and eat > > whatever was legal? i'm just > > wondering because we're having some difficulties on the stages and i > > was just wondering > > how important they really are. we've been having horrible constipation > > problems and we > > never had this problem before when we were doing scd just not the > > intro/stages but since > > doing them we can't get regular. > > thanks > > sam > > > > > Sam, > > > > > > Thanks for the S. Boulardii info. My healthcare person is a GAPS > > > believer. And he said to be patient--that it may take as long as a year > > > to restore vigorous health. That's so hard when you're in the day to > > > day of it all, but we're game--we are on month 3 already. > > > > > > > > > > > > samadamfamily wrote: > > > > > > > thanks nancy- i guess your right it doesn't really matter what > > bugs we > > > > have-what did your > > > > healthcare provider tell you to do to help fix the gut bug problem? > > > > thanks > > > > sam > > > > > > > > > Sam, > > > > > > > > > > We used enterolab for food sensitivities. I don't believe they > > do stool > > > > > cultures. Great Smokies Lab and Diagnos-Techs will do the > > cultures, but > > > > > I think you need to have a health care provider order the tests for > > > > > you. I did GSL for myself several years ago, and I can't say it was > > > > > that helpful. This time around our healthcare provider didn't > > think it > > > > > was worth the money. The theory being that it doesn't matter all > > that > > > > > much which bugs you have, the way to restore gut health is the > > same. He > > > > > felt we were better off putting the dollars towards good food and > > > > needed > > > > > kitchen equipment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > samadamfamily wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > which one did you order and did it tell you what strains of > > > > > > bacteria/yeast is effecting you? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > sam > > > > > > > We just used enterolab.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2008 Report Share Posted February 17, 2008 thank you nancy- i hope our children will be able to handle goat milk in the future, in a couple years we're going to move out to the country with my dad and we're going to have chickens and goats i hope. i have a friend who has goats and she invested in a milking machine so her kids could hook up the goats and help milk everyday. i also found a lady here in ohio that makes movable chicken coupes that can be moved around your yard so the chickens get fresh bugs and help furtalize the yard! this is a silly question but do you have to keeping getting the goats pregnant to keep their milk supply? what do you do the babies? do you keep them? do you have to do it every year? thanks sam > Sam, > > We just sold our goats a few months ago after no one in our house could > drink the milk anymore, due to allergies (probably due to leaky gut). > They are fun pets, and not hard to care for, but you do need to commit > to milking everyday, rain, shine, hot, cold, at home or on vacation. > Depending on your situation, this can tie you down a lot. We were lucky > to have a neighborhood teenager who liked to milk, and she would care > for them whenever we left town. Our children loved them, and they are > a good wholesome activity for kids, but you need the right set up for them. > > > samadamfamily wrote: > > > thank you so much for that nancy- your totally right, we're not > > dealing with autism or > > anything like that just leaky gut which caused the food allergies > > which we're also dairy, soy > > and corn free. when we started the WAPF diet i saw a big improvements > > in my son but my > > other son still had problems with yeast and gluten. he had whole oats > > and rice coming out > > in his bm's so that's when we started SCD. which we were doing fine > > with just removing > > illegals but then since doing the stages i got some severe hemmroids > > from being so > > backed up so i think we're going to add more veggies like you said. we > > started the nut > > muffins too. do you still have your goats? and are the easy to take > > care of? my dad lives on > > a farm and we said if the boys could tolerate goat milk we were > > thinking of getting some > > goats. > > > Sam, > > > > > > There are 3 of us in my house doing GAPS, and we have done it > > > differently for each one. We all started right after Thanksgiving by > > > just removing all illegals (before we really knew about stages). We > > > were already GF/CF/soy free. We all had mild die off symptoms > > > (headache, cranky etc). DD2 has only done GAPS this way and is doing > > > great. With great trepidation, I just gave her 1/8 tsp SCD yogurt this > > > a.m. and am crossing my fingers that she can tolerate it. She was > > > constipated the first week or 2 of GAPS, but that has passed. She has > > > run mucous out of her nose on and off, but has been clear for a few > > > weeks now. She has color in her cheeks, and looks well. > > > > > > With DD1, we went back and started intro right after Christmas as she > > > just wasn't improving well and she was having stomachaches again. She > > > started to improve well after intro, but late Jan we went away > > overnight > > > and I brought a coconut milk and red lentil soup to eat in the hotel. > > > The nasal mucous flared big time, as well as the return of the dark > > > circles under the eyes and looking unwell (it took me a few weeks to > > > figure out it was probably the coconut causing symptoms.). I put her > > > back to foods she had tolerated well before, and within 24 hours there > > > was improvement. We did not progress as slowly as pecanbread > > > suggested. She is not autistic, so I didn't feel like I had to move > > > that slowly. We went from intro, added some cooked fruits, added well > > > cooked veggies, went with easy to digest foods. She still is off of > > > nuts, dairy, coconut, legumes and is steadily improving, but it is > > slow, > > > slow, slow. Her main complaints were nasal congestion which led to poor > > > sleep, sores under the nose, and general misery. Before going GF she > > > had headaches, stomachaches and profound fatigue for an 8 year old. She > > > has been dairy free for ages--after weaning we went to goat milk (even > > > bought goats) because she couldn't tolerate cows milk, but after a few > > > years on goat milk, she couldn't tolerate that, either. Almost all of > > > her dairy in her life has been raw, much of it cultured, but she has > > > been totally dairy free for maybe 2 years now. > > > > > > I have a long list of health complaints, mostly lumped under the > > heading > > > of Chronic Fatigue (low blood pressure, dizziness, fatigue, frequent > > > headaches and the list goes on...). It has taken me almost 3 months on > > > GAPS to finally tackle intro for myself, mostly because I am intolerant > > > of eggs and had trouble lasting more than half a day on just soups. I > > > added SCD yogurt about a month ago (after being dairy free for over a > > > year), and that has gone OK. So, my version of intro is soups and > > > yogurt with banana. I am about 8 days into that, and the first 5 or 6 > > > days I had die off reactions much worse than when I went to GAPS in > > > Nov--severe headaches, really foul smelling stool, fatigue, crankiness > > > etc. I am just coming out of all of that, and am planning to add well > > > cooked veggies in next. > > > > > > To answer your question about stages, I think we need to keep in mind > > > that people on pecanbread are trying to heal their children from very > > > serious, deep seated health issues, so a really rigorous approach may > > > make sense for them. If your family is working more with less severe > > > complaints, I think it makes sense to use a milder version of the diet. > > > I would still avoid the really hard to digest foods (legumes and the > > > like), but you may want to add really well cooked veggies and see how > > > that goes. If I remember, your son passed whole food in his stools--I > > > would think that would be a good indicator of what he can and can't > > > tolerate. If something comes out undigested, hold off on that food. > > > Veggies should help ease the constipation. > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > samadamfamily wrote: > > > > > > > nancy- did you guys go through the stages (peacanbread stages) or did > > > > you just intro one > > > > food at a time or did you just remove all scd illegals and eat > > > > whatever was legal? i'm just > > > > wondering because we're having some difficulties on the stages and i > > > > was just wondering > > > > how important they really are. we've been having horrible > > constipation > > > > problems and we > > > > never had this problem before when we were doing scd just not the > > > > intro/stages but since > > > > doing them we can't get regular. > > > > thanks > > > > sam > > > > > > > > > Sam, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the S. Boulardii info. My healthcare person is a GAPS > > > > > believer. And he said to be patient--that it may take as long as > > a year > > > > > to restore vigorous health. That's so hard when you're in the day to > > > > > day of it all, but we're game--we are on month 3 already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > samadamfamily wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > thanks nancy- i guess your right it doesn't really matter what > > > > bugs we > > > > > > have-what did your > > > > > > healthcare provider tell you to do to help fix the gut bug > > problem? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > sam > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sam, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We used enterolab for food sensitivities. I don't believe they > > > > do stool > > > > > > > cultures. Great Smokies Lab and Diagnos-Techs will do the > > > > cultures, but > > > > > > > I think you need to have a health care provider order the > > tests for > > > > > > > you. I did GSL for myself several years ago, and I can't say > > it was > > > > > > > that helpful. This time around our healthcare provider didn't > > > > think it > > > > > > > was worth the money. The theory being that it doesn't matter > > all > > > > that > > > > > > > much which bugs you have, the way to restore gut health is the > > > > same. He > > > > > > > felt we were better off putting the dollars towards good > > food and > > > > > > needed > > > > > > > kitchen equipment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > samadamfamily wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which one did you order and did it tell you what strains of > > > > > > > > bacteria/yeast is effecting you? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > sam > > > > > > > > > We just used enterolab.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2008 Report Share Posted February 18, 2008 Sam, We have chickens as well, and they run around our backyard all day. They are fun to watch and we enjoy them, and, boy, are the eggs good. Yes, you do need to breed the goats every year to keep a good milk supply. Some goats will "milk through"(keep milking without being bred), but you won't get much milk. It's not practical to keep all the babies as your herd will explode in no time (each mom has 2 babies each year). Most baby boys end up as meat, most baby girls can be sold as milkers. When you get serious about goats, order the book "Stories guide to raising goats" They also have a book on chickens. samadamfamily wrote: thank you nancy- i hope our children will be able to handle goat milk in the future, in a couple years we're going to move out to the country with my dad and we're going to have chickens and goats i hope. i have a friend who has goats and she invested in a milking machine so her kids could hook up the goats and help milk everyday. i also found a lady here in ohio that makes movable chicken coupes that can be moved around your yard so the chickens get fresh bugs and help furtalize the yard! this is a silly question but do you have to keeping getting the goats pregnant to keep their milk supply? what do you do the babies? do you keep them? do you have to do it every year? thanks sam > Sam, > > We just sold our goats a few months ago after no one in our house could > drink the milk anymore, due to allergies (probably due to leaky gut). > They are fun pets, and not hard to care for, but you do need to commit > to milking everyday, rain, shine, hot, cold, at home or on vacation. > Depending on your situation, this can tie you down a lot. We were lucky > to have a neighborhood teenager who liked to milk, and she would care > for them whenever we left town. Our children loved them, and they are > a good wholesome activity for kids, but you need the right set up for them. > > > samadamfamily wrote: > > > thank you so much for that nancy- your totally right, we're not > > dealing with autism or > > anything like that just leaky gut which caused the food allergies > > which we're also dairy, soy > > and corn free. when we started the WAPF diet i saw a big improvements > > in my son but my > > other son still had problems with yeast and gluten. he had whole oats > > and rice coming out > > in his bm's so that's when we started SCD. which we were doing fine > > with just removing > > illegals but then since doing the stages i got some severe hemmroids > > from being so > > backed up so i think we're going to add more veggies like you said. we > > started the nut > > muffins too. do you still have your goats? and are the easy to take > > care of? my dad lives on > > a farm and we said if the boys could tolerate goat milk we were > > thinking of getting some > > goats. > > > Sam, > > > > > > There are 3 of us in my house doing GAPS, and we have done it > > > differently for each one. We all started right after Thanksgiving by > > > just removing all illegals (before we really knew about stages). We > > > were already GF/CF/soy free. We all had mild die off symptoms > > > (headache, cranky etc). DD2 has only done GAPS this way and is doing > > > great. With great trepidation, I just gave her 1/8 tsp SCD yogurt this > > > a.m. and am crossing my fingers that she can tolerate it. She was > > > constipated the first week or 2 of GAPS, but that has passed. She has > > > run mucous out of her nose on and off, but has been clear for a few > > > weeks now. She has color in her cheeks, and looks well. > > > > > > With DD1, we went back and started intro right after Christmas as she > > > just wasn't improving well and she was having stomachaches again. She > > > started to improve well after intro, but late Jan we went away > > overnight > > > and I brought a coconut milk and red lentil soup to eat in the hotel. > > > The nasal mucous flared big time, as well as the return of the dark > > > circles under the eyes and looking unwell (it took me a few weeks to > > > figure out it was probably the coconut causing symptoms.). I put her > > > back to foods she had tolerated well before, and within 24 hours there > > > was improvement. We did not progress as slowly as pecanbread > > > suggested. She is not autistic, so I didn't feel like I had to move > > > that slowly. We went from intro, added some cooked fruits, added well > > > cooked veggies, went with easy to digest foods. She still is off of > > > nuts, dairy, coconut, legumes and is steadily improving, but it is > > slow, > > > slow, slow. Her main complaints were nasal congestion which led to poor > > > sleep, sores under the nose, and general misery. Before going GF she > > > had headaches, stomachaches and profound fatigue for an 8 year old. She > > > has been dairy free for ages--after weaning we went to goat milk (even > > > bought goats) because she couldn't tolerate cows milk, but after a few > > > years on goat milk, she couldn't tolerate that, either. Almost all of > > > her dairy in her life has been raw, much of it cultured, but she has > > > been totally dairy free for maybe 2 years now. > > > > > > I have a long list of health complaints, mostly lumped under the > > heading > > > of Chronic Fatigue (low blood pressure, dizziness, fatigue, frequent > > > headaches and the list goes on...). It has taken me almost 3 months on > > > GAPS to finally tackle intro for myself, mostly because I am intolerant > > > of eggs and had trouble lasting more than half a day on just soups. I > > > added SCD yogurt about a month ago (after being dairy free for over a > > > year), and that has gone OK. So, my version of intro is soups and > > > yogurt with banana. I am about 8 days into that, and the first 5 or 6 > > > days I had die off reactions much worse than when I went to GAPS in > > > Nov--severe headaches, really foul smelling stool, fatigue, crankiness > > > etc. I am just coming out of all of that, and am planning to add well > > > cooked veggies in next. > > > > > > To answer your question about stages, I think we need to keep in mind > > > that people on pecanbread are trying to heal their children from very > > > serious, deep seated health issues, so a really rigorous approach may > > > make sense for them. If your family is working more with less severe > > > complaints, I think it makes sense to use a milder version of the diet. > > > I would still avoid the really hard to digest foods (legumes and the > > > like), but you may want to add really well cooked veggies and see how > > > that goes. If I remember, your son passed whole food in his stools--I > > > would think that would be a good indicator of what he can and can't > > > tolerate. If something comes out undigested, hold off on that food. > > > Veggies should help ease the constipation. > > > > > > Hope this helps, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > samadamfamily wrote: > > > > > > > nancy- did you guys go through the stages (peacanbread stages) or did > > > > you just intro one > > > > food at a time or did you just remove all scd illegals and eat > > > > whatever was legal? i'm just > > > > wondering because we're having some difficulties on the stages and i > > > > was just wondering > > > > how important they really are. we've been having horrible > > constipation > > > > problems and we > > > > never had this problem before when we were doing scd just not the > > > > intro/stages but since > > > > doing them we can't get regular. > > > > thanks > > > > sam > > > > > > > > > Sam, > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for the S. Boulardii info. My healthcare person is a GAPS > > > > > believer. And he said to be patient--that it may take as long as > > a year > > > > > to restore vigorous health. That's so hard when you're in the day to > > > > > day of it all, but we're game--we are on month 3 already. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > samadamfamily wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > thanks nancy- i guess your right it doesn't really matter what > > > > bugs we > > > > > > have-what did your > > > > > > healthcare provider tell you to do to help fix the gut bug > > problem? > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > sam > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sam, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > We used enterolab for food sensitivities. I don't believe they > > > > do stool > > > > > > > cultures. Great Smokies Lab and Diagnos-Techs will do the > > > > cultures, but > > > > > > > I think you need to have a health care provider order the > > tests for > > > > > > > you. I did GSL for myself several years ago, and I can't say > > it was > > > > > > > that helpful. This time around our healthcare provider didn't > > > > think it > > > > > > > was worth the money. The theory being that it doesn't matter > > all > > > > that > > > > > > > much which bugs you have, the way to restore gut health is the > > > > same. He > > > > > > > felt we were better off putting the dollars towards good > > food and > > > > > > needed > > > > > > > kitchen equipment. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > samadamfamily wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > which one did you order and did it tell you what strains of > > > > > > > > bacteria/yeast is effecting you? > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > > > > > sam > > > > > > > > > We just used enterolab.com. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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