Hi - new here

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In a message dated 10/17/99 8:41:16 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

cloudninedesign@... writes:

> I only take them to the docs when it is absolutely necessary, so do

> you guys ever get nervous about your decision to not vaccinate ?

As a grandma, I do not worry that my first granddaughter has had NO vaccines.

She had a Vit K shot and was treated for a urinary tract infection (caused

by the nurses) right after she was born so I have worried about those

injections!

I worry more that my daughter and SIL might be coerced into getting shots for

belle by going to the Dr for " wellness " visits!

I had two daughter's and stopped ALL Dr visits after I found out how

detrimental the vaccines are! Yes, that wasn't til my 2nd child had had one

set of shots. (the first had had everything! ugh!)

I found out about Natural Hygiene and their explanation of how the body works

and how to keep it healthy.

(hacres.com or do a search for American Natural Hygiene Society)

Try to relax and enjoy your baby! The time goes so quickly!

Becki aka Granni

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In a message dated 10/17/1999 8:41:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

cloudninedesign@... writes:

<< so do

you guys ever get nervous about your decision to not vaccinate ? >>

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In a message dated 10/17/1999 8:41:09 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

cloudninedesign@... writes:

<< so do

you guys ever get nervous about your decision to not vaccinate ? >>

For the most part, no. If you research the natural course of many of

the diseases (homeopathy books are terrific for this!) that are vaccinated

for, you will find they are rather benign. A healthy immune system is key.

Arming yourself with alternative treatments will also boost your confidence

immensely! If after doing your research, you decide thata certain vaccine

has benefits for your situation, you can always choose to partially vaccinate

as another option. It doesn't have to be all or nothing. Just be sure you

are making the decision and not a doctor.

Cheryl

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Sure, it is a natural part because we have been so conditioned that

vaccinated children don't get the diseases. I always have Smart Medicine

for a Healthier Child by Zand, et al...on hand.

I also keep Prescription for Nutritional Healing. How to Raise a Healthy

Child In Spite of your Doctor by Dr. Mendolsohn....and I just ordered a

new book called Vaccine Free Prevention and Treatment with Homeopathy by

Dr. Starre. (I can't wait to see it because it has treatmetns

appparantly for evertyhing including typhoid, bubonic plague, etc.) You

can order it from him at 330-739-6025...cost about $11.00 w/s & h. These

are like my " bibles " . After awhile you get more comfortable with your

decision...we are more conscientious about washing hands, no sugar diet,

etc for our daughter and if she is not feeling well,...we stay home...or

rearrange the playdate.

This is a great list and it offers an incredible amount of support and

resources.

Best wishes and welcome....invest in those books they are a great

resource in the middle of the night.

Cloud Nine Design wrote:

>

> From: Cloud Nine Design <cloudninedesign@...>

>

> Hi everyone I am new to this list. My name is and my husband, Jeff,

> and I have two beautiful children. Baylee, almost 2, and , almost 9

> months. We chose not to vaccinate our children in February of 99. Our

> daughter did get her shots up until she was a year, which I still regret. My

> son got a hepB shot in the hospital and the pku test at the docs later. I

> have always hated the thought of getting them shots, but only because of the

> pain they go through during and after the shots. Neither one has ever had a

> reaction to a vaccination. I do have a question though. Everytime my

> children get sick, whether it be a simple cold or the croup (which they have

> right now), or anything! I get so nervous that it might be something more

> serious. I only take them to the docs when it is absolutely necessary, so do

> you guys ever get nervous about your decision to not vaccinate ? I'm really

> glad to be a part of this group, I'm sure I will get some very useful

> information from all of you.

>

>

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Hi , I only get nervous when someone tries to force vaccines on my

child. She will be 3 in less than 5 months, she doesn't get sick, however

she just got over 3 days of sniffles. If she were the type of child that is

always sick (ear infections, throat infections, gastrointestinal problems

and fevers), I guess I would be nervous and begin to think that maybe she

should be vaccinated. But from what I can see, she's healthier than all the

vaccinated children I know because she has never had any of the

above...never. I don't want anything to interfere with that and I'm

comfortable with my decision.

Hi - New Here

>From: Cloud Nine Design <cloudninedesign@...>

>

>Hi everyone I am new to this list. My name is and my husband, Jeff,

>and I have two beautiful children. Baylee, almost 2, and , almost 9

>months. We chose not to vaccinate our children in February of 99. Our

>daughter did get her shots up until she was a year, which I still regret.

My

>son got a hepB shot in the hospital and the pku test at the docs later. I

>have always hated the thought of getting them shots, but only because of

the

>pain they go through during and after the shots. Neither one has ever had

a

>reaction to a vaccination. I do have a question though. Everytime my

>children get sick, whether it be a simple cold or the croup (which they

have

>right now), or anything! I get so nervous that it might be something more

>serious. I only take them to the docs when it is absolutely necessary, so

do

>you guys ever get nervous about your decision to not vaccinate ? I'm

really

>glad to be a part of this group, I'm sure I will get some very useful

>information from all of you.

>

>

>

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I was so fortunate to have a doctor who shares my beliefs, so I know that

when my kids were little and got sick I am sure she did think of those

diseases as she diagnosed my children. I would like to point out that my

most of my children had very few ear infections, some of them none at all,

and two of them had

just 2 infections, they have been very very healthy and I feel it is due to

the fact that I did not immunize them and they had a healthy diet which

didn't include milk. Theresa

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I would be interested in possibly purchasing some of his work, does anyone

know if sells his photos?

[Guest guest]

>...I would LOVE to see more of the photographer's

> works - he was incredible!!! So if anyone knows anything

>(websites) I would greatly appreciate you sharing with me,

> paixful@t... .

If you are still here:

http://www.ricardogil.com/

Maurice

[Guest guest]

Tasha,

It's typical for Lexapro to cause you to be jittery. Give it at least 6

weeks for it's positive effects. When you are ready to go off of it, it has

to be done slowly, it's true and under doctor's care cause a sudden stopping

of the medication has bad sad effects.

>I started Lexapro yesterday and this is my first time on any Psych

>medication. I suffer from Major Depressive Disorder and have tried

>therapy only, but felt I needed meds to get through some dark times

>right now.

>

>Now I " m scared. After reading so much (darn internet), my main

>concerns are coming off the drug and the withdrawals that people seem

>to go through. It scares me so much! Also, the side effects.

>

>I took my first dose, 10mg, last night. When I got up this morning, I

>felt a little jittery and kind of " strange " , but that went away after

>a few hours. Is this typical? Will it go away?

>

>Glad I found this group...

>

>Tasha

>

>

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Larissa,

I do. I take it for panic attacks, general anxiety , and agoraphobia.

questions? alison

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:04:37 -0400 " soothing "

<soothingsolutions@...> writes:

> I guess no one takes lexapro for agoraphobia or anxiety huh?

> Larissa

>

>

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In a message dated 8/25/2005 3:56:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

oraidergrl@... writes:

Can I just cut the 10mg in half?

Yes. I used a razor blade...they are hard to cut!

Marilyn

[Guest guest]

I guess no one takes lexapro for agoraphobia or anxiety huh? Larissa

[Guest guest]

I take for Social and General Anxiety. That's its' main purpose for me.

>I guess no one takes lexapro for agoraphobia or anxiety huh? Larissa

>

>

[Guest guest]

Of course for anxiety. Anti-depressants are for depression and anxiety, not just

depression.

Re: Hi - New Here

I guess no one takes lexapro for agoraphobia or anxiety huh? Larissa

[Guest guest]

Larrissa,

ok here goes.. My agaraphobia is fairly bad. I had to cancell a therapy

appointment yesterday cause I coudl not leave. Generally I am able to

force myself oout of the house after about 2 hours of panic and then I am

still shaking like a leaf. I often have panic attacks once I am out which

kinda makes me stay in a lot. fear of fear. panic about possible panic (

so mucha circular trap) Are you housebound?

I have been on the lex for about 6 months.. and here is where I am a bad

example... I am so drug sensitive I am only taking 4 mg. I started on

one. I use a liquid form .Because lex can intensify anxiety to start with

that is where it is good to have benzos to ward off the anxiety of going

on. the SSRI. I was terrified to even take the stuff at all and stared

at it for a month or something 1st I would cry if I even saw the box.,

.. SO because I am not at a therapudic dosage I am a bad example. I still

have horrible anxiety. Here is the thing..I still think some days it is

better.. then I tend to have a week of being a freak. I am trying hard to

up the dosage but I am still scared of the drug ( this is not entirely a

rational thing besides that messing with brain chemicals is a serious

thign in my book) Well, Larissa I think the lex is worth a try ..it is

very low on side effects in comparison to other drugs. I do also

recommend therapy. beign agoraphobic is no way to live .. I am sure you

would agree.

I am here for you whenever you need support. I am home almost all the

tiem as my anxiety is such that I cannot work right now.

do not let my current situation deter you..cause until I am on at least

10 or 20 mg there is no tellign if the lex is useful for me or not.

alison

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:22:47 -0400 " soothing "

<soothingsolutions@...> writes:

> Larissa,

>

> I do. I take it for panic attacks, general anxiety , and

> agoraphobia.

> questions? alison

>

> Hi Alison, yes I have a few if you dont mind. How bad is your

> agoraphobia? Are you housebound? How long have you been on lex, any

> side effects, what dosage, and how long did it take before you

> noticed improvement with th agoraphobia? Im starting it in a couple

> weeks and my husband is quitting smoking the day I start them. He

> really wants me to get better, and I want him healthy. Thank you

> Alison in advance for answering. Larissa

>

>

[Guest guest]

Larissa,

I do. I take it for panic attacks, general anxiety , and agoraphobia.

questions? alison

Hi Alison, yes I have a few if you dont mind. How bad is your agoraphobia? Are

you housebound? How long have you been on lex, any side effects, what dosage,

and how long did it take before you noticed improvement with th agoraphobia? Im

starting it in a couple weeks and my husband is quitting smoking the day I start

them. He really wants me to get better, and I want him healthy. Thank you Alison

in advance for answering. Larissa

[Guest guest]

Just a thought: Instead of thinking of it as messing with the brain

chemicals, look at it as correcting brain chemicals.

>Larrissa,

>

>ok here goes.. My agaraphobia is fairly bad. I had to cancell a therapy

>appointment yesterday cause I coudl not leave. Generally I am able to

>force myself oout of the house after about 2 hours of panic and then I am

>still shaking like a leaf. I often have panic attacks once I am out which

>kinda makes me stay in a lot. fear of fear. panic about possible panic (

>so mucha circular trap) Are you housebound?

>

>I have been on the lex for about 6 months.. and here is where I am a bad

>example... I am so drug sensitive I am only taking 4 mg. I started on

>one. I use a liquid form .Because lex can intensify anxiety to start with

>that is where it is good to have benzos to ward off the anxiety of going

>on. the SSRI. I was terrified to even take the stuff at all and stared

>at it for a month or something 1st I would cry if I even saw the box.,

>

>. SO because I am not at a therapudic dosage I am a bad example. I still

>have horrible anxiety. Here is the thing..I still think some days it is

>better.. then I tend to have a week of being a freak. I am trying hard to

>up the dosage but I am still scared of the drug ( this is not entirely a

>rational thing besides that messing with brain chemicals is a serious

>thign in my book) Well, Larissa I think the lex is worth a try ..it is

>very low on side effects in comparison to other drugs. I do also

>recommend therapy. beign agoraphobic is no way to live .. I am sure you

>would agree.

>

>I am here for you whenever you need support. I am home almost all the

>tiem as my anxiety is such that I cannot work right now.

>

>do not let my current situation deter you..cause until I am on at least

>10 or 20 mg there is no tellign if the lex is useful for me or not.

>

>alison

>On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:22:47 -0400 " soothing "

><soothingsolutions@...> writes:

> > Larissa,

> >

> > I do. I take it for panic attacks, general anxiety , and

> > agoraphobia.

> > questions? alison

> >

> > Hi Alison, yes I have a few if you dont mind. How bad is your

> > agoraphobia? Are you housebound? How long have you been on lex, any

> > side effects, what dosage, and how long did it take before you

> > noticed improvement with th agoraphobia? Im starting it in a couple

> > weeks and my husband is quitting smoking the day I start them. He

> > really wants me to get better, and I want him healthy. Thank you

> > Alison in advance for answering. Larissa

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

ok I got ya .. that is my anxiety talking. PLUS I am not convinced it is

a brain chemical problem .. No one tested my brain to see if there i

chemical issue or not..so how can they say they are correcting a chemical

problem. I am not sayign you are wrong.. I am sayign how I think or what

I worry abotu. - alison

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 15:47:27 -0500 " Myers "

<topmercedes40@...> writes:

> Just a thought: Instead of thinking of it as messing with the brain

> chemicals, look at it as correcting brain chemicals.

>

>

>

> >Larrissa,

> >

> >ok here goes.. My agaraphobia is fairly bad. I had to cancell a

> therapy

> >appointment yesterday cause I coudl not leave. Generally I am able

> to

> >force myself oout of the house after about 2 hours of panic and

> then I am

> >still shaking like a leaf. I often have panic attacks once I am out

> which

> >kinda makes me stay in a lot. fear of fear. panic about possible

> panic (

> >so mucha circular trap) Are you housebound?

> >

> >I have been on the lex for about 6 months.. and here is where I am

> a bad

> >example... I am so drug sensitive I am only taking 4 mg. I started

> on

> >one. I use a liquid form .Because lex can intensify anxiety to

> start with

> >that is where it is good to have benzos to ward off the anxiety of

> going

> >on. the SSRI. I was terrified to even take the stuff at all and

> stared

> >at it for a month or something 1st I would cry if I even saw the

> box.,

> >

> >. SO because I am not at a therapudic dosage I am a bad example. I

> still

> >have horrible anxiety. Here is the thing..I still think some days

> it is

> >better.. then I tend to have a week of being a freak. I am trying

> hard to

> >up the dosage but I am still scared of the drug ( this is not

> entirely a

> >rational thing besides that messing with brain chemicals is a

> serious

> >thign in my book) Well, Larissa I think the lex is worth a try

> ..it is

> >very low on side effects in comparison to other drugs. I do also

> >recommend therapy. beign agoraphobic is no way to live .. I am sure

> you

> >would agree.

> >

> >I am here for you whenever you need support. I am home almost all

> the

> >tiem as my anxiety is such that I cannot work right now.

> >

> >do not let my current situation deter you..cause until I am on at

> least

> >10 or 20 mg there is no tellign if the lex is useful for me or

> not.

> >

> >alison

> >On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 16:22:47 -0400 " soothing "

> ><soothingsolutions@...> writes:

> > > Larissa,

> > >

> > > I do. I take it for panic attacks, general anxiety , and

> > > agoraphobia.

> > > questions? alison

> > >

> > > Hi Alison, yes I have a few if you dont mind. How bad is your

> > > agoraphobia? Are you housebound? How long have you been on lex,

> any

> > > side effects, what dosage, and how long did it take before you

> > > noticed improvement with th agoraphobia? Im starting it in a

> couple

> > > weeks and my husband is quitting smoking the day I start them.

> He

> > > really wants me to get better, and I want him healthy. Thank

> you

> > > Alison in advance for answering. Larissa

> > >

> > >

[Guest guest]

This is not true, . Not all anti-depressants are for both depression and

anxiety. Lexapro, however, is recommended for both.

Re: Hi - New Here

I guess no one takes lexapro for agoraphobia or anxiety huh? Larissa

[Guest guest]

Annie -

You are right. She should follow her doctor's orders, and no one else's.

Duh.

That thought did cross my mind....I figured her doctor would tell her how to

take it.

Marilyn

[Guest guest]

you may want to get a pull cutter lex crumbles a lot - alison

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:59:07 EDT Eltat2mom@... writes:

>

>

> In a message dated 8/25/2005 3:56:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> oraidergrl@... writes:

>

> Can I just cut the 10mg in half?

>

>

>

> Yes. I used a razor blade...they are hard to cut!

>

> Marilyn

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i meant a PILL cutter - alison

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 17:21:20 -0700 alisonjoan@... writes:

> you may want to get a pull cutter lex crumbles a lot - alison

> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:59:07 EDT Eltat2mom@... writes:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/25/2005 3:56:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

>

> > oraidergrl@... writes:

> >

> > Can I just cut the 10mg in half?

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes. I used a razor blade...they are hard to cut!

> >

> > Marilyn

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

ok I am sure I should stay out of this..and each person should follow

their drs advice..but in my case my dr did tell me if I couldn't handle

a full dose to cut it down until i could handle it. I am basically in

total control of upping the dose or bringing it down according to my

comfort level. Further ..it is my body so I feel I should be the one to

decide. it doesn;t sound like the original writer has been on it long

enough to have withdrawels.. so to lower the doese does not sound so

horribly dangerous to me. BUT NO I AM NOT a dr.. I felt the question was

just being asked could it be cut.. not what are the dangers .. the

answer is yes it can be cut.so that was the answer given. - alison

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 20:28:55 -0700 (PDT) Annie Houlihan

<gvhoulihan@...> writes:

> Who is the M.D. on this site?????

> Taking a chance on giving advice is an absolute mistake. If ther are

> ANY questions as to amt of mg's of Lexipro, talk it over with your

> Doc. This site is NOT medically knowlegible to make thse chabges.

> Annie in AZ

>

> alisonjoan@... wrote:

> you may want to get a pull cutter lex crumbles a lot - alison

> On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:59:07 EDT Eltat2mom@... writes:

> >

> >

> > In a message dated 8/25/2005 3:56:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

>

> > oraidergrl@... writes:

> >

> > Can I just cut the 10mg in half?

> >

> >

> >

> > Yes. I used a razor blade...they are hard to cut!

> >

> > Marilyn

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

Sorry I have to write this, but......Who ordered your present presciption and

dosage? You mentioned you were going to try to cut it in half......If you got

the Lexapro for a certain mg, are you just deciding on your own to change the

prescription, or have you contacted your M.D.? This is not a drug to fool with.

If your M.D. ordered you to cut it in half, OK. However your post makes it sound

as though you are doing this without his orders. Why go to a Doc if you aren't

going to follow his orders. It's a waste of your time as well as the Doc's!

Annie in AZ

Eltat2mom@... wrote:

In a message dated 8/25/2005 3:56:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

oraidergrl@... writes:

Can I just cut the 10mg in half?

Yes. I used a razor blade...they are hard to cut!

Marilyn

[Guest guest]

Who is the M.D. on this site?????

Taking a chance on giving advice is an absolute mistake. If ther are ANY

questions as to amt of mg's of Lexipro, talk it over with your Doc. This site is

NOT medically knowlegible to make thse chabges.

Annie in AZ

alisonjoan@... wrote:

you may want to get a pull cutter lex crumbles a lot - alison

On Thu, 25 Aug 2005 18:59:07 EDT Eltat2mom@... writes:

>

>

> In a message dated 8/25/2005 3:56:26 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,

> oraidergrl@... writes:

>

> Can I just cut the 10mg in half?

>

>

>

> Yes. I used a razor blade...they are hard to cut!

>

> Marilyn

>

>

>