Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Laurie: you've put forward some pretty scary information but it would be more helpful if you could cite at least a few of the websites or articles that state the risk of developing cancer from low doses of methotrexate is greater than 50%. Additionally, I'm wondering why your rheumy believes that Enbrel caused your lupus. Lupus is a disease that's in some ways very similar to PsA, RA and others that are caused by our immune system. Is there a possibility that you were simply mis-diagnosed at the beginning? Anything more concrete you could provide would be very helpful on either topic. Also with regard to the diet you say has helped. I'm too have questions about whether or not I have PsA. My rheumy is convinced I have it; I'm not and my internist is skeptical, too, though at one point two years ago, it is clear that I did have an immunological " thing " going on that responded to Enbrel within a few short months. But it has never returned, even when I went off all medications for a while. I am taking MTX right now but mostly to satisfy my rheumy. Joanna Hoelscher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Joanna, Did you go back on MTX just to satisfy your rheumy or did you have exacerbation of symptoms? Just curious. I went off my meds (much to my MDs chagrin) and was OK for about 8 weeks but than had to go back on MTX and prednisone as I had a flare and could not function. I do know that I have PsA and unfortunately diet, though it helps a lot, doesn't seem to be enough to keep mine in check. My goal is for highest function with the least amount of meds possible but it is not always clear how to achieve that. Hope you have a pain-free day. God bless, Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 8, 2010 Report Share Posted February 8, 2010 Patty: I did not have any symptoms but went on it to satisfy her. I'd been off Enbrel for six months, though I did discuss it with both the rheumy and my internist before stopping it. As far as my rheumy can tell me from x-rays, the only place I have any evidence of inflammatory disease is in my sacrum and the radiologist did diagnose mild sacroillitis there. But she's done x-rays of my neck, hands, feet and ankles (as well as my sacrum) and there is no other evidence of anything but osteo-arthritis any place else. Whatever I had at the very beginning, though, was very bad and came on quickly. My physical therapist first noticed it - I was in rehab after shoulder surgery and nearly finished with it when she started telling me that she felt inflammation in my body that was not there before. Then as the weeks passed, I began really hurting all over. The PT finally insisted that I see my internist because she was convinced I was - for some reason - suddenly developing a systemic inflammatory disease. My internist - being the pragmatist that she is - said that statistically the most likely reason for muscle pain in my case was Lipitor so she tried taking me off that for two months but I just got worse. So, she did blood tests which did show evidence of inflammation (CRP was normal but sed rate was about 60); so she sent me to a rheumy who first said I had fibromyalgia. But then she noticed I had a history of mild psoriasis and immediately said, " Oh, you have psoriatic arthritis, " I'd never even heard of it before. She put me on Enbrel and within a couple of months I was back to normal. But the inflammation had been bad - particularly in my feet/legs. They were so swollen I could hardly get a pair of shoes on and before starting on Enbrel there were a few nights when I literally crawled up the stairs to go to bed because I couldn't walk, I hurt so much. Arms hurt too so it was even hard to get up out of a chair. So, as I told the rheumy during this discussion that I remembered how bad that time was and didn't want to do anything " stupid " ; at the same time, I'm with you - I don't want to take powerful medications if I really don't need them. So, I guess the jury's still out but I don't feel any different since going on MTX and it's been about six months. As an interesting little sidelight, when I had this discussion about stopping Enbrel with my rheumy and mentioned not wanting to make a mistake that would cause a re-occurrence of how I felt when I first went to her, she said, " Oh, that wasn't psoriatic arthritis; it was fibromyalgia! " Now that one really threw me . . . . . .. . and is just one more reason why I'm a bit skeptical about the PsA diagnosis. I'm not even sure I have fibro but I sure had that fibromyalgia fog at the time. Couldn't concentrate (I love to read and I couldn't remember anything from one page to the next), couldn't stay awake if I was driving. It was scary! These diseases that don't have definitive tests by which you can diagnose them can really be a challenge . . . . . . . Joanna Hoelscher - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Patty, Thank you so much for your thorough post regarding this subject. I just started on methotrexate, and am starting Humira in one week. I had taken Enbrel before, and I did develop some neurological symptoms (slurred Speech, memory problems, coordination, incontinence), so I did have to stop it. It did take about a year to clear up, but it went away. I believe I remember reading that Enbrel can cause a ³lupus-like² syndrome: This is from the Enbrel website: ENBREL can cause serious side effects including: Infections, including serious infections like TB; hepatitis B can become active if you already have had it; nervous system problems, such as multiple sclerosis, seizures, or inflammation of the nerves of the eyes; blood problems (some fatal); new or worsening heart failure; new or worsening psoriasis; allergic reactions; autoimmune reactions, including a lupus-like syndrome and autoimmune hepatitis. I have never read the 50% figure regarding methotrexate, and I do think that we need to be careful when saying Something like this on this board, that there is a reliable source for that information. Whether it is true or not, Someone might really be having sever joint damage done, and decide not to have treatment based on that information. I think opinions are fine but we need to be careful. Kristy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2010 Report Share Posted February 9, 2010 Debbie, Hi, my name is Lori, I was diagnosed last month with PsA after being misdiagnosed in 2005 with fibro. I am due to start Humira on Friday, I am so excited and hopeful that this drug will give me relief. I am 41 and already my hands are slightly deformed from PsA. I would be very interested to know about your diet and supplements that you take daily as well as what happens when you stray from your plan. I myself am having trouble adjusting to limitations on what I can do and what I can eat without feeling the effects. I wonder if you or anyone has put together a small book of diet do's and dont's, I know that everyone has a different trigger but I do believe that the main foods are close to the same for us all. I would also be interested to know if anyone has any info on how they stay active, I can't even think of exercise at this time, I never know when my knees or ankles are going to give out and then there is the almost constant pain. I think it would be very helpful for people with PsA and other similar health problems to have a booklet talking about food triggers, supplements, exercise and disability help. I work in a pharmacy call center dealing with insurance rejections all day. I am surrounded by about 150 people at any given time and am concerned about catching viruses, etc... I am constantly on the internet looking up as much as I can about PsA and the medications used to treat it and the side effects. Education is the key, it is so important for all of us to know as much as we can about our disease and treatments. It still surprises me how most people have no idea about the medication they take, why they take it and how their insurance works. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 27, 2010 Report Share Posted April 27, 2010 Welcome , We are sorry you are here, but it is great to hear from you. At this point, trust me when I say that, while there may be a couple of hiccups, it gets easier to deal with every day. Craig, Dad to , 7 year old dude DX 9/8/09 w/ std risk ALL From: rachaelsheller <rachaelsheller@...>Subject: [ ] New to group Date: Tuesday, April 27, 2010, 9:55 AM Hello everyone,I am new to the group and so happy to have found you. My 14 year old son was diagnosed with ALL a month ago and our family is trying so very hard to cope with this. We just started the Consolidation phase of his treatment and he seems to be doing well. Can anyone offer any insight on what to expect over the next few months? When I read things on medical websites, it can get very discouraging. I know he is receiving the best of care, but I dont' want to overlook anything that may help him. Thank you! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 What do you think guys, given the symptoms he sure sounds low to me. > > I posted before, but did not see it show up, so I will try again. New to the forum. I think that I might have a testosterone/estrogen imbalance. I am 55, and took Zoloft for about 6/7 years, I really can't recall just when I started. Anyways, I stopped cold turkey back in September of last year. I started noticing sexual side effects the last couple of years I was on it, and tried to stop a few times, but the withdrawal was shear hell. But I finally did withdraw and suffered from the symptoms for a good 5 weeks. Anyways, I got ED real bad after stopping. My libido is low as well. I was prescribed Viagra, and this worked just fine for a few months. But then suddenly, it stopped working for me. I belong to another forum, SSRI Medication, and read somewhere to take DIM Plus. So I went through a bottle. And low and behold, the Viagra started working again. But about a month or so, it stopped again. I got my testosterone level checked a few weeks ago, and the result showed my level to be around 340. The doctor said this was normal, and that I would not need any TRT treatment. I just recently started DIM again, and I am taking Zinc with copper in addition, so I shall see. But someone on the other forum said that my level is probably too low. I am pretty healthy, and would like to get my libido back, and maybe not have to rely on Viagra. But I don't know how much is due to my age, and how much is due to taking the SSRI drug. Any feedback would be appreciated. All I know, is I used to have a real healthy libido, but I am 55 and don't know if this is a natural consequence of my age. Thanks for listening. > > Ed > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 20, 2010 Report Share Posted May 20, 2010 I replyed to this post the first day he joined don't know what happened to it. SSRI meds will lower your Testostreone if not make it worse. http://www.priory.com/psych/sexdys.htm When I first got sick a long story I was told I am suffering from Major Depression and put on meds for 5 yrs I lost 5 yrs of my life on the it was low testosterone that was what was wrong with me. Read this link to my story. http://forums.realthyroidhelp.com/viewtopic.php?f=5 & t=9239 Bottom line here is to find out why you low if it can be fixed your levels will come back up. Going on TRT with out knowing why your low makes it dam hard to figure out why your low and you might end up like me. Co-Moderator Phil > From: robbnc1 <no_reply > > Subject: Re: New to group > > Date: Thursday, May 20, 2010, 2:55 PM > What do you think guys, given the > symptoms he sure sounds low to me. > > > > > > I posted before, but did not see it show up, so I will > try again. New to the forum. I think that I might have a > testosterone/estrogen imbalance. I am 55, and took Zoloft > for about 6/7 years, I really can't recall just when I > started. Anyways, I stopped cold turkey back in September of > last year. I started noticing sexual side effects the last > couple of years I was on it, and tried to stop a few times, > but the withdrawal was shear hell. But I finally did > withdraw and suffered from the symptoms for a good 5 weeks. > Anyways, I got ED real bad after stopping. My libido is low > as well. I was prescribed Viagra, and this worked just fine > for a few months. But then suddenly, it stopped working for > me. I belong to another forum, SSRI Medication, and read somewhere > to take DIM Plus. So I went through a bottle. And low and > behold, the Viagra started working again. But about a month > or so, it stopped again. I got my testosterone level checked > a few weeks ago, and the result showed my level to be around > 340. The doctor said this was normal, and that I would not > need any TRT treatment. I just recently started DIM again, > and I am taking Zinc with copper in addition, so I shall > see. But someone on the other forum said that my level is > probably too low. I am pretty healthy, and would like to get > my libido back, and maybe not have to rely on Viagra. But I > don't know how much is due to my age, and how much is due to > taking the SSRI drug. Any feedback would be appreciated. All > I know, is I used to have a real healthy libido, but I am 55 > and don't know if this is a natural consequence of my age. > Thanks for listening. > > > > Ed > > > > > > > ------------------------------------ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Welcome to the group. I hope you find the support you need here. Have you modified your diet at all? If I eat sugar and flour I hurt. I am on methotrexate and a breath of prednisone and can not control my PsA with diet alone but it has made a big difference for me. It is tough not eating flour in our world today but it may be worth a try for you. God bless, Patty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Welcome, this group is great for questions and advice. I would say your comments about your son are very familiar. My son is in 5th and he struggles with writing too. Especially creative writing, he says he has too many ideas in his head and he can't pick one to start writing about. If we give him the idea or topic, he will do much better. When your son is depressed, all you can do is remind him of the good things he does have in life. And if he feels lonely, you can help him by trying to encourage friendships, maybe with the other kids in his social skills group. It sounds like you are doing all the right things, but sometimes it is s slow process to see improvements. I have to ask if he is on any medications? If he is, maybe they need to be tweaked to help with his anger and frustration before the therapy and coping skills will be start to be effective. If he's not, it may be something to talk to your doctor about. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Suzanne suzmarkwood@... From: judes11111 <wnjfabian@...>Subject: ( ) New to group Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 9:12 AM Hi all! I am new to your group. I have a 10 year old son with Aspergers, OCD, Anxiety, sensory issues and soon to be determined possible Bipolar or ADHD. He is a great kid with a huge heart. He is in 4th grade and does fairly well at school with the exception of writing assignments and anything where he needs to give an opinion or express a feeling. Anyone have the same struggles with that? He also has a VERY hard time with his anger and frustration. His current method of coping with it is hitting. Usually himself, sometimes objects. We have tried many many many many coping skills with him, but his immediate reaction is the hitting. Any suggestions?? He also gets into these really low depressed times when he sobs and says how terrible his life is, etc. So heartbreaking to see him go through it! He see's a CBT weekly and social worker weekly at school with a small group. Another social skills class will start in a few weeks outside of school also. Busy, busy, busy! We have many conversations (fights) with the school to try to get the services we know he needs. It's like pulling teeth! So frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Not on meds...yet. We are going to psychiatrist on the 17th to discuss possibility of them. Does anyone have modifications for writing assignments?? They gave us an extra day for each one, but I think that just prolongs the anxiety. From: judes11111 <wnjfabian@...>Subject: ( ) New to group Date: Tuesday, January 11, 2011, 9:12 AM Hi all! I am new to your group. I have a 10 year old son with Aspergers, OCD, Anxiety, sensory issues and soon to be determined possible Bipolar or ADHD. He is a great kid with a huge heart. He is in 4th grade and does fairly well at school with the exception of writing assignments and anything where he needs to give an opinion or express a feeling. Anyone have the same struggles with that? He also has a VERY hard time with his anger and frustration. His current method of coping with it is hitting. Usually himself, sometimes objects. We have tried many many many many coping skills with him, but his immediate reaction is the hitting. Any suggestions?? He also gets into these really low depressed times when he sobs and says how terrible his life is, etc. So heartbreaking to see him go through it! He see's a CBT weekly and social worker weekly at school with a small group. Another social skills class will start in a few weeks outside of school also. Busy, busy, busy! We have many conversations (fights) with the school to try to get the services we know he needs. It's like pulling teeth! So frustrating. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 11, 2011 Report Share Posted January 11, 2011 Hi, I just joined the group yesterday hoping to get help with the same issues you are going through. I have a 7 year old boy with ADHD, OCD, Aspergers and Sensory Issues. He also struggles with any writting topics in school, luckily everything else he really excels at. However, this school year he started hitting other students and having uncontrollable outburts at school and home. Whenever he would get frustrated he would yell at the teacher and run out of the classroom, once the AID had to chase him all the way across campus and caught him before he ran off school grounds. My husband and I thought it was his ADHD medicine that was causing this (it can be a side effect from Foclin) after changing his meds 3 times nothing changed. We finally moved him to a school that has an SDP for children with behavioral issues. Although his is very mild compared to other kids in his class we figured it would be best that he was the really good kid in class instead always the one in trouble. They meet with a councilor every week and have social skills training every day. So far we haven't seen a big improvement but he started a month before winter break so we can't expect much. My big concern is that I have a 2 year old and 1 year old that watch these outburts and now the 2 year old is taking on this lovely trait and I feel like I have no control over his actions and I am finding it more and more difficult to punish the 2 year old for her actions because she assumes she is doing something totally normal. Although I can't offer you much in the advice area I just wanted you to know that you're not alone and it seems you are doing everything you can right now help your child. I know the classes and therapy take time (sometimes a lot of it). Good Luck! Shana > > Hi all! I am new to your group. I have a 10 year old son with Aspergers, OCD, Anxiety, sensory issues and soon to be determined possible Bipolar or ADHD. He is a great kid with a huge heart. He is in 4th grade and does fairly well at school with the exception of writing assignments and anything where he needs to give an opinion or express a feeling. Anyone have the same struggles with that? He also has a VERY hard time with his anger and frustration. His current method of coping with it is hitting. Usually himself, sometimes objects. We have tried many many many many coping skills with him, but his immediate reaction is the hitting. Any suggestions?? He also gets into these really low depressed times when he sobs and says how terrible his life is, etc. So heartbreaking to see him go through it! He see's a CBT weekly and social worker weekly at school with a small group. Another social skills class will start in a few weeks outside of school also. Busy, busy, busy! We have many conversations (fights) with the school to try to get the services we know he needs. It's like pulling teeth! So frustrating. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Dave, I doubt that the lesion on your back had anything to do with the Rituxan. I think it was a smart decision to continue with it and it is a smart decision to continue continuing. Your B-cell lymphoma started off indolent. As it picked up steam many/most of the transformed cells remained low grade and did not adequately take up the chemo. As you have opted for radiation, take vitamin E succinate. This can kick up the cytotoxic sensitivity to radiation while protecting sane cells. There is no reason that you can’t do low dose naltrexone with metenkephlin. You have many other options. One physician in Tijuana uses a combination of 10 mg prednisone every other day along with cimetidine. I have not tried this and I can’t verify effectiveness. Iron deprivation and copper deprivation are both strategies that have been used. I suggest that you complement iron deprivation with gallium. If you have retained your chemistry skills you might make an azelaic acid salt of it; maltolate ligands can be used PO. Copper deprivation must be monitored by watching ceruloplasmin levels. You can conveniently use this for angiogenesis inhibition along with a differentiation therapy (to address residual low grade cells) by combining d-penicillamine with benzaldehyde these can be covalently hitched without refluxing. You have many good options, Mr. Lucky Man. PS: Don’t watch “Law and Order – UK”. It is far too addictive. _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Dave Khaliel Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:43 AM Subject: [ ] New to group Hello. I am new here. My name is Dave Khaliel and I have been diagnosed with stage 1 undifferentiated indolent follicular lymphoma since 12/2008. " Wait and watch " became " we have to treat " as the disease was rapidly progressing through my lungs (non-indolently as it were) and I got to where I could barely breathe. R-CVP seemed to clear the PET scan completely but I elected an additional 2yr course of rituximab. After 3 doses in, a lump appeared on my back, was excised and biopsied as large B-cell lymphoma. A further, larger excision still showed atypical lymphoid cells around the margins (but PET scan still otherwise completely clear) so I am to begin a 28 treatment radiation therapy procedure on the area starting tomorrow. Cancer-wise that is my story in a nutshell. I am a married 68 yo retired pharmacist (wife also retired) with an interest in photography, shooting (firearms), computers and British TV shows. My best to all. " I myself am a patchwork of flaws stitched together with good intentions " ---Augusten Burrows Ô¿Ô ~ Cosmos Mariner, destination unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Hi Dave, with your understanding of pharmacy i think you would like to look into a product we have used in our family for over 9 yrs now. It has good science, history, case studies and is under a phase II trial in NY. www.polymva.com It is quite an interesting product on how it is put together and what it can do, we used it as great player in our health.....combined in the right way it really changed the tide. if i can help or explain more, feel free to ask. all the best and god speed, regards al _____ From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Dave Khaliel Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2011 7:43 AM Subject: [ ] New to group Hello. I am new here. My name is Dave Khaliel and I have been diagnosed with stage 1 undifferentiated indolent follicular lymphoma since 12/2008. " Wait and watch " became " we have to treat " as the disease was rapidly progressing through my lungs (non-indolently as it were) and I got to where I could barely breathe. R-CVP seemed to clear the PET scan completely but I elected an additional 2yr course of rituximab. After 3 doses in, a lump appeared on my back, was excised and biopsied as large B-cell lymphoma. A further, larger excision still showed atypical lymphoid cells around the margins (but PET scan still otherwise completely clear) so I am to begin a 28 treatment radiation therapy procedure on the area starting tomorrow. Cancer-wise that is my story in a nutshell. I am a married 68 yo retired pharmacist (wife also retired) with an interest in photography, shooting (firearms), computers and British TV shows. My best to all. " I myself am a patchwork of flaws stitched together with good intentions " ---Augusten Burrows Ô¿Ô ~ Cosmos Mariner, destination unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 : Thank you for your reply and suggestions. I want to clarify one thing and then ask a question. To clarify, I had a full course of 6 treatments of R-CVP, ending 3/2010. At that point I elected to continue the rituximab though scans showed no activity. I do not blame the rituximab for the transformation but I do wonder about the process of this one subcutaneous " bubble " of transformation with no other activity showing and what that means vis-a-vis the possibility of future " bubbles " or a full blown large scale eruption. I know about the possibility of transformation but somehow this bump on my back took me by surprise. I thought transformation would be on a larger scale with accompanying severe symptoms. At the moment all my blood work is fine except for Hgb 1 point below normal, Ca 0.1 point below normal and immunoglobulins slightly below normal. I don't know why but this lone invasive clump rose up in a seemingly otherwise health field worries me quite a bit. I guess I just expected full peace and quiet for a while or else an all out attack. My question is this. Where would one find these chemicals and drugs you mention and the knowledgeable person to administer them. I very highly doubt my oncologist would consider these (though I will broach the subject if it comes to it), or that he would know the protocols to use them or that my insurance would pay for them. Also, where to have the tests run to monitor the levels you suggest, should it come to that? Thanks again for your time and kind attention. Dave K " I myself am a patchwork of flaws sewn together with good intentions " ---Augustin Burrows Ô¿Ô ~ Cosmos Mariner, destination unknown On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Gammill <vgammill@...>wrote: > As you have opted for radiation, take vitamin E succinate. This can > kick up the cytotoxic sensitivity to radiation while protecting sane cells. > There is no reason that you can’t do low dose naltrexone with metenkephlin. > You have many other options. One physician in Tijuana uses a combination of > 10 mg prednisone every other day along with cimetidine. I have not tried > this and I can’t verify effectiveness. > > Iron deprivation and copper deprivation are both strategies that have > been used. I suggest that you complement iron deprivation with gallium. If > you have retained your chemistry skills you might make an azelaic acid salt > of it; maltolate ligands can be used PO. Copper deprivation must be > monitored by watching ceruloplasmin levels. You can conveniently use this > for angiogenesis inhibition along with a differentiation therapy (to > address > residual low grade cells) by combining d-penicillamine with benzaldehyde > these can be covalently hitched without refluxing. > > You have many good options, Mr. Lucky Man. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Al Thanks for your reply. Can you tell me more about the product with respect to use in lymphoma? Experience? Results? Thanks Dave K On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 4:05 PM, Al S. wrote: > Hi Dave, with your understanding of pharmacy i think you would like to look > into a product we have used in our family for over 9 yrs now. It has good > science, history, case studies and is under a phase II trial in NY. > > www.polymva.com It is quite an interesting product on how it is put > together and what it can do, we used it as great player in our > health.....combined in the right way it really changed the tide. > > if i can help or explain more, feel free to ask. > > all the best and god speed, > > regards al Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Hi Dave, Sorry to hear of your diagnosis...it's never an easy thing to hear but there are very many things you can do on your own to help your situation. As far as your diet I would get on the Budwig diet and Protocol ASAP. Dr. Johanna Budwig had great success treating cancer patients for over 60 years by changing the way they ate, having them eat only good oils as opposed to the bad oils most Westerners eat in their diets. It is a great adjunct to any other protocol you may choose to use and is easily done by yourself. There is a FlaxSeedOil2 group you can join that will thoroughly explain the diet and protocol plus it has many testimonials of how effective it is. FlaxSeedOil2/ As with many alternative therapies there are those who poo poo this wonderful protocol but as they say the proof is in the pudding. I personally believe one should attack cancer from every angle possible. Many good thoughts and wishes to you, Cosmos Mariner...surely you have some destination in mind. Sandy Cancer-wise that is my story in a nutshell. I am a married 68 yo retired pharmacist (wife also retired) with an interest in photography, shooting (firearms), computers and British TV shows. My best to all. " I myself am a patchwork of flaws stitched together with good intentions " ---Augusten Burrows Ô¿Ô ~ Cosmos Mariner, destination unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 9, 2011 Report Share Posted February 9, 2011 Dave, I am pleased that you are not a victim of " post hoc ergo propter hoc. " The new metastatic lesion could represent an epithelial-to-mesenchymal transition. If the " Bubble " is the only manifestation and you have no alternatives then conformal radiation might be smart. If it is shallow enough you can use microwave hyperthermia instead. If it extends deeper than 2 cm then I would inject it with xylocaine with epinephrine to block pain and perfusion, and then nuke it with the microwaves. This is focused through a horn-like antenna placed over the lesion. Incidentally the FDA has approved microwave ablation and this can be very useful. A microwave antenna (looks like a thin pencil) is inserted into the heart of the lesion and it is fried for about ten minutes. I prefer this to radiofrequency ablation. With RFA the business end of the probe will fan out like the ribs of an umbrella and curl back toward the probe to give it a spherical cooking element. You can also look into cryoablation. There are any number of meds that you can inject straight into the lesion. This can include hemotoxylin in DMSO (25% w/v), copper DIPS (diisopropyl salicylate) which I would use with an ascorbate strategy. Others have tried infiltrating with laetrile or with a 15% aq. urea soln. You can kill any tissue with ethanol, but it hurts. Bromopyruvate is useful but it can cause swelling before you see shrinkage. I know of one fellow in Northern California who cured his B-cell lymphoma about 15 years ago by using plain zeolite such as you would find at an agricultural supply store. If interested I can suggest ways to modify it to enhance uptake. No oncologist will follow any of these chemical suggestions so don't alarm them by asking. I am giving you a few suggestions as these are all easy enough to do yourself and none are terribly expensive. Re: [ ] New to group : Thank you for your reply and suggestions. I want to clarify one thing and then ask a question. To clarify, I had a full course of 6 treatments of R-CVP, ending 3/2010. At that point I elected to continue the rituximab though scans showed no activity. I do not blame the rituximab for the transformation but I do wonder about the process of this one subcutaneous " bubble " of transformation with no other activity showing and what that means vis-a-vis the possibility of future " bubbles " or a full blown large scale eruption. I know about the possibility of transformation but somehow this bump on my back took me by surprise. I thought transformation would be on a larger scale with accompanying severe symptoms. At the moment all my blood work is fine except for Hgb 1 point below normal, Ca 0.1 point below normal and immunoglobulins slightly below normal. I don't know why but this lone invasive clump rose up in a seemingly otherwise health field worries me quite a bit. I guess I just expected full peace and quiet for a while or else an all out attack. My question is this. Where would one find these chemicals and drugs you mention and the knowledgeable person to administer them. I very highly doubt my oncologist would consider these (though I will broach the subject if it comes to it), or that he would know the protocols to use them or that my insurance would pay for them. Also, where to have the tests run to monitor the levels you suggest, should it come to that? Thanks again for your time and kind attention. Dave K " I myself am a patchwork of flaws sewn together with good intentions " ---Augustin Burrows T?T ~ Cosmos Mariner, destination unknown On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:30 PM, Gammill <vgammill@...>wrote: > As you have opted for radiation, take vitamin E succinate. This can > kick up the cytotoxic sensitivity to radiation while protecting sane cells. > There is no reason that you cant do low dose naltrexone with metenkephlin. > You have many other options. One physician in Tijuana uses a combination of > 10 mg prednisone every other day along with cimetidine. I have not tried > this and I cant verify effectiveness. > > Iron deprivation and copper deprivation are both strategies that have > been used. I suggest that you complement iron deprivation with gallium. If > you have retained your chemistry skills you might make an azelaic acid salt > of it; maltolate ligands can be used PO. Copper deprivation must be > monitored by watching ceruloplasmin levels. You can conveniently use this > for angiogenesis inhibition along with a differentiation therapy (to > address > residual low grade cells) by combining d-penicillamine with benzaldehyde > these can be covalently hitched without refluxing. > > You have many good options, Mr. Lucky Man. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Hello Dave, sorry for what you going through. I suppose we are all going though it too, I have advanced prostrate cancer stage 4. In 2008 my doctors said they were also out of options to what they could do for me to. but Im fine now, thanks to the diet my naturopath put me on. Also I dont know how it does it but patients from this and other forums have said that they have had good results using Cellular Zeolites. It's no cure but it just helps them if you want to have a look type in Cellular Zeolites and lymphoma in any search engine. You'll see what I mean. But what a lot of us do is stop all sugary foods, increase our intake of vitamin C about 10 grams a day and Vit D 8000 IUs a day. I also have a glass of veggie juice ever morning. all the best Ray ________________________________ From: Dave Khaliel <dkhaliel@...> Sent: Thu, 10 February, 2011 Hello. I am new here. My name is Dave Khaliel and I have been diagnosed with stage 1 undifferentiated indolent follicular lymphoma since 12/2008. " Wait and watch " became " we have to treat " as the disease was rapidly progressing through my lungs (non-indolently as it were) and I got to where I could barely breathe. R-CVP seemed to clear the PET scan completely but I elected an additional 2yr course of rituximab. After 3 doses in, a lump appeared on my back, was excised and biopsied as large B-cell lymphoma. A further, larger excision still showed atypical lymphoid cells around the margins (but PET scan still otherwise completely clear) so I am to begin a 28 treatment radiation therapy procedure on the area starting tomorrow. Cancer-wise that is my story in a nutshell. I am a married 68 yo retired pharmacist (wife also retired) with an interest in photography, shooting (firearms), computers and British TV shows. My best to all. Cosmos Mariner, destination unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Ray, how do you take 10 grams of Vit C a day? Powder or capsule? where do you get it ? How much Zeolite to take to get results? Thanks. In a message dated 2/13/2011 3:17:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, randall.crossley@... writes: HelloDave,sorry for what you going through. I suppose we are all going though it too, I have advanced prostrate cancer stage 4. In 2008 my doctors said they were also out of options to what they could do for me to. but Im fine now, thanksto the diet my naturopath put me on. AlsoI dont know how it does it but patients from this and other forums have said that they have had good results using Cellular Zeolites.It'sno cure butit just helps them if you want to have a look type in Cellular Zeolites and lymphoma in any search engine. You'll see what I mean. But what a lot of us do is stopall sugary foods, increaseourintake of vitamin C about 10 grams a day and Vit D 8000 IUs a day. I also have a glass of veggie juice evermorning. all the best Ray ________________________________ From: Dave Khaliel <_dkhaliel@..._ (mailto:dkhaliel@...) > Sent: Thu, 10 February, 2011 Hello. I am new here. My name is Dave Khaliel and I have been diagnosed with stage 1 undifferentiated indolent follicular lymphoma since 12/2008. " Wait and watch " became " we have to treat " as the disease was rapidly progressing through my lungs (non-indolently as it were) and I got to where I could barely breathe. R-CVP seemed to clear the PET scan completely but I elected an additional 2yr course of rituximab. After 3 doses in, a lump appeared on my back, was excised and biopsied as large B-cell lymphoma. A further, larger excision still showed atypical lymphoid cells around the margins (but PET scan still otherwise completely clear) so I am to begin a 28 treatment radiation therapy procedure on the area starting tomorrow. Cancer-wise that is my story in a nutshell. I am a married 68 yo retired pharmacist (wife also retired) with an interest in photography, shooting (firearms), computers and British TV shows. My best to all. Cosmos Mariner, destination unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 Ray, Thanks for the info. I have seen zeolites mentioned before and will look into it. At first blush it appears that zeolites might also bind/remove any supplements one is taking or even the healthy vitamins and minerals from the foods one is eating. Any thoughts on that? Can you expand a little bit on the diet your naturopath put you on? I have begun juicing and am contemplating the Budwig diet. Thanks for your time and interest. Dave K " I myself am a patchwork of flaws sewn together with good intentions " ---Augustin Burrows Ô¿Ô ~ Cosmos Mariner, destination unknown On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 3:01 AM, Randall Crossley < randall.crossley@...> wrote: > > > Hello Dave, sorry for what you going through. I suppose we are all going > though > it too, I have advanced prostrate cancer stage 4. In 2008 my doctors said > they were also out of options to what they could do for me to. but Im fine > now, thanks to > the diet my naturopath put me on. Also I dont know how it does it but > patients > from this and other forums have said that they have had good results using > Cellular Zeolites. It's no cure but it just helps them if you want to have > a look type in Cellular Zeolites and lymphoma in any search engine. You'll > see what I mean. But what a lot of us do is stop all sugary foods, > increase our intake of vitamin C > about 10 grams a day and Vit D 8000 IUs a day. I also have a glass of > veggie juice > ever morning. > all the best Ray > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2011 Report Share Posted February 13, 2011 HI I have seen a few of my friends beat breast and colon cancer with no invasive surgery from boosting their immune system consuming high dosages of a blend of medicinal mushrooms researched at www.pegausbp.org and their commercial site is at www.mmushroom.com  Ray, how do you take 10 grams of Vit C a day? Powder or capsule? where do you get it ? How much Zeolite to take to get results? Thanks. In a message dated 2/13/2011 3:17:55 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, randall.crossley@... writes: HelloDave,sorry for what you going through. I suppose we are all going though it too, I have advanced prostrate cancer stage 4. In 2008 my doctors said they were also out of options to what they could do for me to. but Im fine now, thanksto the diet my naturopath put me on. AlsoI dont know how it does it but patients from this and other forums have said that they have had good results using Cellular Zeolites.It'sno cure butit just helps them if you want to have a look type in Cellular Zeolites and lymphoma in any search engine. You'll see what I mean. But what a lot of us do is stopall sugary foods, increaseourintake of vitamin C about 10 grams a day and Vit D 8000 IUs a day. I also have a glass of veggie juice evermorning. all the best Ray ________________________________ From: Dave Khaliel <_dkhaliel@..._ (mailto:dkhaliel@...) > Sent: Thu, 10 February, 2011 Hello. I am new here. My name is Dave Khaliel and I have been diagnosed with stage 1 undifferentiated indolent follicular lymphoma since 12/2008. " Wait and watch " became " we have to treat " as the disease was rapidly progressing through my lungs (non-indolently as it were) and I got to where I could barely breathe. R-CVP seemed to clear the PET scan completely but I elected an additional 2yr course of rituximab. After 3 doses in, a lump appeared on my back, was excised and biopsied as large B-cell lymphoma. A further, larger excision still showed atypical lymphoid cells around the margins (but PET scan still otherwise completely clear) so I am to begin a 28 treatment radiation therapy procedure on the area starting tomorrow. Cancer-wise that is my story in a nutshell. I am a married 68 yo retired pharmacist (wife also retired) with an interest in photography, shooting (firearms), computers and British TV shows. My best to all. Cosmos Mariner, destination unknown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Ray, can you be specific on Vitamin C 10 grams a day? Do you take 1, 000 mg of Vitamin C ten times a day? Or buy high dosage of Vitamin in capsule? Please help. In a message dated 2/14/2011 7:58:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, randall.crossley@... writes: I take 10 grams of Vitamin C a day. and 8000 iu of vitamin D3 a day in capsule form. But not all at once, liquid cellular Zeolites was 15 drops 4 times Day I thought this had no efect untill my PSA come back it droped 4 points and keep on droping Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 Hi Dave that OK my diet a no process sugary food diet not bread and at first when I went on it  I was told to lay off all fruit and milk products as well but I can all the vegtables I want.  I some times sit reading and eat frozen veg for a snack so I also have soy milk ever day in my cups of green tea my PSA was going up but it sloyly droping it now 11 but it ust to be mush higher I have prostrate bone mets yet I feel no pain any more I take apre cot pits because a study showed on it own it has all most no efect on cancer but just have ing six a day  it can stop cancer mets dead in it tracks how did your valinines day go take care Ray Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2011 Report Share Posted February 14, 2011 I take 10 grams of Vitamin C a day. and 8000 iu of vitamin D3 a day in  capsule form. But not all at once,  liquid cellular  Zeolites was 15 drops 4 times Day I thought this had no efect untill my PSA come back it droped 4 points and keep on droping Ray   Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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