New to Group

[Guest guest]

Hi JP,

An affordable way to take large doses of vitamin C is to get a good powdered

crystal form of it, dissolve the 10 grams in distilled water and sip it

throughout the day. Be sure to get sodium ascorbate or other buffered form to

save your gut. You sip it to bowel tolerance. trivita makes a good form that's

easy on the stomach; but I'm sure that there are others.

http://www.trivita.com/Web/US/content/products/product-detail.aspx?id=722

Another and most powerful and gentle on the gut form of getting vitamin c into

the system is my favorite,Liposomal Vitamin C. You can make this yourself

withvitamin c crystals, lecithin, distilled water, and an ultrasonic cleaner.

Liposomal technology gets up to 90% of the nutrient into your system and you

therefore need to take nuch less of it. Has helped many folks with cancers of

all kinds. This is where I get my liposomal vitamin C when I don't want to make

it myself: http://www.nanoliposomals.com/Liposomal_CAN-HELP.html

I know many folks who have been helped by the 'Can Help' combination formulation

as well.

Good luck and if you need the recipe for making your own liposomal vitamin C,

just let me know.

Best,

>

> Ray, can you be specific on Vitamin C 10 grams a day? Do you take 1, 000 mg

> of Vitamin C ten times a day? Or buy high dosage of Vitamin in capsule?

> Please help.

>

>

> In a message dated 2/14/2011 7:58:28 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,

> randall.crossley@... writes:

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> I take 10 grams of Vitamin C a day. and 8000 iu of vitamin D3 a day in

> capsule

> form. But not all at once, liquid cellular Zeolites was 15 drops 4 times

> Day I

> thought this had no efect untill my PSA come back it droped 4 points and

> keep on

> droping Ray

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>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

its amazing stuff vitamin C. I once read a report from a psychiatrist

who treated a patient in 1955.

He was called to the hospital to help a patient who had prostrate cancer that

had gone in to his lungs and part of his brain. the patient had become very

violent, and the family could not handle him any more. At times the patient had

to be restrained, the patient ask psychiatrist please is there any thing you can

do to help me. The psychiatrist at first said no there isn't. then he remembered

that before the 1930 and chemo, most cancers like prostrate cancer, was treated

with vitamin C. But for some reason, it would work well on some patients, and

not work at all on others. But the psychiatrist after talking to his patient

decided to try it any way. 

He administer it by IV. I dont know the dose. it

seem to work, and the condition of the patient improve. Over time the patient

went back to his family,  but before he did he ask the psychiatrist

if he could ask his local GP his doctor to administer the vitamin C for him. So

the

psychiatrist wrote out a referral the GP, who sent a report back to

the psychiatrist on the progress of the patient, saying the patient continued

to improve enough that after six months the vitamin C was stoped. The patient

doctor had regular visits by the patient and the GP continued to be in contact

with the psychiatrist on the progress of the patient for quite a few

years. The prostrate cancer never returned and after 6 years the psychiatrist

and the GP never heard from the patient again. But it shows Vitamin C does

work some. Ray  

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From: rebeck1 <rebecca.jazz@...>

Sent: Tue, 15 February, 2011 2:25:20 AM

Subject: [ ] Re: New to group

Hi JP,

An affordable way to take large doses of vitamin C is to get a good powdered

crystal form of it, dissolve the 10 grams in distilled water and sip it

throughout the day. Be sure to get sodium ascorbate or other buffered form to

save your gut. You sip it to bowel tolerance. trivita makes a good form that's

easy on the stomach; but I'm sure that there are others.

http://www.trivita.com/Web/US/content/products/product-detail.aspx?id=722

Another and most powerful and gentle on the gut form of getting vitamin c into

the system is my favorite,Liposomal Vitamin C. You can make this yourself

withvitamin c crystals, lecithin, distilled water, and an ultrasonic cleaner.

Liposomal technology gets up to 90% of the nutrient into your system and you

therefore need to take nuch less of it. Has helped many folks with cancers of

all kinds. This is where I get my liposomal vitamin C when I don't want to make

it myself: http://www.nanoliposomals.com/Liposomal_CAN-HELP.html

I know many folks who have been helped by the 'Can Help' combination formulation

as well.

Good luck and if you need the recipe for making your own liposomal vitamin C,

just let me know.

Best,

jpking@... wrote:

>

> Ray, can you be specific on Vitamin C 10 grams a day? Do you take 1, 000 mg

> of Vitamin C ten times a day? Or buy high dosage of Vitamin in capsule?

> Please help.

[Guest guest]

I use to take the vitamin C powder ascorbic acid but I now just

take the 1000mg caps of Bio C from Blackamoors as we can Get them from the

supermarket. I take four in the morning three at two and three at night when I

go to bed I am addicted to the if I dont have them I feel sick but the most

importent one I feel is the vitamin D3. Ray

________________________________

From: " jpking@... "

Sent: Mon, 14 February, 2011

Ray, can you be specific on Vitamin C 10 grams a day? Do you take 1, 000 mg

of Vitamin C ten times a day? Or buy high dosage of Vitamin in capsule?

Please help.

______________________________________________________

In a message dated 2/14/2011, randall.crossley writes:

I take 10 grams of Vitamin C a day. and 8000 iu of vitamin D3 a day in capsule

form. But not all at once, liquid cellular Zeolites was 15 drops 4 times Day I

thought this had no efect untill my PSA come back it droped 4 points and keep on

droping. Ray

[Guest guest]

Thank you so much for all this helpful information. I really didn't have much of a starting place till now. So I assume I need to wait for the official written diagnosis before applying for ssi and medicaid. Our insurance is terrible and if there was a way to have medicaid as well it would help a lot. I live in ohio and I noticed you said that you have a social worker come to your house once a week. Any help and advice is greatly appreciated. I worry that once I get the appointments started that my son will give me a really hard time. He is already saying that he won't talk to anyone. He views me getting him evaluated as a punishment and that I dont think he is good enough. No matter how hard I try to tell him that this is all to help him and make things better for him. I tried a counselor once and 10 appointments into it he still wouldn't talk to him and freaked out if I left the room . Has anyone else experienced this problem? Sent from myTouch 4G----- Reply message -----From: " UMgirl " <chevinsea@...>< >Subject: ( ) New to groupDate: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 7:34 am

God Bless you Tami. Hang in there and get to a Psychiatrist and a Psychologist or counselor, Psychiatrist will help you with meds and an eval. Most importantly give you a letter statin his diagnosis. THIS is VERY IMPORTANT. YOur sons IEP will be rewritten, you also should file for SSI ( dont not give up if they deny you the first time ) OH and as you approach your possible divorce make sure that he is taken care of in your settlement. The father just may have to pay all deductables and he may even qualify the medicaid because of his disablity. IF you know all this stuff them Im sorry. I went through 5 counselors for my son and 4 psychiatrist till I found ONE that took the interest to find all the answers. For years DRs said my son had ADHD but I knew in my gut they were missing something. And finally, at the age of 14, he was diagnosed. shew Yes, in Ohio we also get a social worker visiting our home once a wk, he goes to a counselor, psychiatrist. occupational therapist. Drs have become my new full time job but its for a child who is my life.

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> From: tcavins@... <tcavins@...>

> Subject: ( ) New to group

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> Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 12:11 PM

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> My son is 11 and we have always known that there was something not quite right. The Dr at our last physical said that he had always suspected that maybe had a mild form of Asperger's. I wish he would have expressed that to us years ago. My son does have a lot of difficulty in social situations and he does not like to meet new people very often. We went to see my brother last week and I was so embarrassed because my son was very cold and rude wich has been an ongoing problem. He gets very angry and can be very harsh with his words. When he was little sleeping was a huge problem. At the age of 1 he stopped napping completely and would be up past 10pm and awake at sun up. He refuses to play any type of group sport which really upsets his dad. He would not participate in phys ed until about a year ago. We have him enrolled in a very small private school of only about 10 kids because of his anxiety and easy frustration in social situations involving

> many kids. We put him on Daytrana patch in second grade which has helpled a lot in school. Medication of any kind for him is very difficult because he has a phobia of swallowing pills. As he is getting older I am noticing more phobias develop. He will no longer ride in an elevator and he is washing his hands excessively. My husband and I have recently separated and I need help to get control in the home. My son has never been formally tested and when I was talking to someone about where would be the best place for help my son overheard and became very upset. He says he will not go to a counselor or talk to anyone. Has anyone ecxperienced these problems with your kids? Does this sound like Aspergers? I am very frustrated and just don't know where to start.

>

> Tami

>

[Guest guest]

I have the same problem with my son. He hates talking to therapists. He tells me he is not comfortable talking about his feelings. He saw one therapist for about a year and one day went off on her saying he didn't even like her or coming to see her. I made him leave the room to cool down and when he came back he apologized and spent the rest of the session with his head in my lap wanting me to rub his forehead. He just started seeing a new therapist so we'll see how it goes. Good luck with your son!ne

From: tcavins@... <tcavins@...>Subject: Re: ( ) New to group Date: Sunday, March 6, 2011, 2:29 PM

Thank you so much for all this helpful information. I really didn't have much of a starting place till now. So I assume I need to wait for the official written diagnosis before applying for ssi and medicaid. Our insurance is terrible and if there was a way to have medicaid as well it would help a lot. I live in ohio and I noticed you said that you have a social worker come to your house once a week. Any help and advice is greatly appreciated. I worry that once I get the appointments started that my son will give me a really hard time. He is already saying that he won't talk to anyone. He views me getting him evaluated as a punishment and that I dont think he is good enough. No matter how hard I try to tell him that this is all to help him and make things better for him. I tried a counselor once and 10 appointments into it he still wouldn't talk to him and freaked out if I left the room . Has anyone else experienced this problem? Sent from

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----- Reply message -----From: "UMgirl" <chevinsea@...>< >Subject: ( ) New to groupDate: Tue, Mar 1, 2011 7:34 am

God Bless you Tami. Hang in there and get to a Psychiatrist and a Psychologist or counselor, Psychiatrist will help you with meds and an eval. Most importantly give you a letter statin his diagnosis. THIS is VERY IMPORTANT. YOur sons IEP will be rewritten, you also should file for SSI ( dont not give up if they deny you the first time ) OH and as you approach your possible divorce make sure that he is taken care of in your settlement. The father just may have to pay all deductables and he may even qualify the medicaid because of his disablity. IF you know all this stuff them Im sorry. I went through 5 counselors for my son and 4 psychiatrist till I found ONE that took the interest to find all the answers. For years DRs said my son had ADHD but I knew in my gut they were missing something. And finally, at the age of 14, he was diagnosed. shew Yes, in Ohio we also get a social worker visiting our home once a wk, he goes to a counselor, psychiatrist.

occupational therapist. Drs have become my new full time job but its for a child who is my life.> > > From: tcavins@... <tcavins@...>> Subject: ( ) New to group> > Date: Monday, February 28, 2011, 12:11 PM> > > Â > > > > My son is 11 and we have always known that there was something not quite right. The Dr at our last physical said that he had always suspected that maybe had a mild form of Asperger's. I wish he would have expressed that to us years ago. My son does have a lot of difficulty in social situations and he does not like to meet new people very often. We went to see my brother last week and I was so embarrassed because my son was very cold and rude wich has been an ongoing problem. He gets very angry

and can be very harsh with his words. When he was little sleeping was a huge problem. At the age of 1 he stopped napping completely and would be up past 10pm and awake at sun up. He refuses to play any type of group sport which really upsets his dad. He would not participate in phys ed until about a year ago. We have him enrolled in a very small private school of only about 10 kids because of his anxiety and easy frustration in social situations involving> many kids. We put him on Daytrana patch in second grade which has helpled a lot in school. Medication of any kind for him is very difficult because he has a phobia of swallowing pills. As he is getting older I am noticing more phobias develop. He will no longer ride in an elevator and he is washing his hands excessively. My husband and I have recently separated and I need help to get control in the home. My son has never been formally tested and when I was talking to someone about where would

be the best place for help my son overheard and became very upset. He says he will not go to a counselor or talk to anyone. Has anyone ecxperienced these problems with your kids? Does this sound like Aspergers? I am very frustrated and just don't know where to start. > > Tami>

[Guest guest]

Hello! My name is Jonna and I am mom to 4 beautiful boys ages 13, 11, 9, and 7.

I am also a proud military wife and my husband will be deploying later this

year. After a few meetings with a theropist for our 11 year old because of what

we felt was anger issues, the theropist suggested that we see the Dr. on staff.

At the end of our appt. with the Dr., he had our son sit in the waiting room and

he told me that he felt strongly that he has Asperger's and prescribed Prosac

for anxiety. I went to the library to check out some books and did some online

research and a lot fits, but at the same time some things don't. He has a hard

time looking anyone in the eye when talking to them, he has a hard time spitting

out the word when talking with anyone, somewhat like his mind is working faster

then his mouth can form the words, he is fixated on Pokimon, anything and

everything and gets very upset when anyone touches his Pokimon stuff, he can be

happy one minute and like a switch he is very upset, he shys away from his

classmates at school and gets very upset when anyone is in his space, he is very

smart and talented musically, he plays the viola and clarinet, but his hand

writing is like a 1st grader, and he still wets the bed. On the other hand, he

is sensitive to other people's feelings, loves to cuddle with adults he trusts,

loves his family and pets. Now, my husband is very concerned about starting

him on Prosac and wants to talk with the Dr. first. I can understand his view,

but on the other hand, I work in the medical field and have worked with children

with different special needs and have seen how it can help with anxiety. I want

to get a good handle on this with the schools and at home before my husband

deploys and my son starts middle school in the Fall. OK, I am done for now.

Thanks for reading!!!!

[Guest guest]

My son is the same and i recommend zoloft for the panic and anxiety and risperidone for the anger and behavior. it is a great combination and seems to work better. talk to your doctor. Sycamore Art StudiosSycamore Art SchoolDeborah GustlinGraphic & Web DesignArt classes for K-12www.sycamoreartstudios.comwww.sycamoreartschool.comHome: 408-710-0892 Business: 408-710-6070From: Jonna <jmp1869@...> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 11:28:18 AMSubject: ( ) New to Group

Hello! My name is Jonna and I am mom to 4 beautiful boys ages 13, 11, 9, and 7. I am also a proud military wife and my husband will be deploying later this year. After a few meetings with a theropist for our 11 year old because of what we felt was anger issues, the theropist suggested that we see the Dr. on staff. At the end of our appt. with the Dr., he had our son sit in the waiting room and he told me that he felt strongly that he has Asperger's and prescribed Prosac for anxiety. I went to the library to check out some books and did some online research and a lot fits, but at the same time some things don't. He has a hard time looking anyone in the eye when talking to them, he has a hard time spitting out the word when talking with anyone, somewhat like his mind is working faster then his mouth can form the words, he is fixated on Pokimon, anything and everything and gets very upset when anyone touches his Pokimon stuff, he can be happy

one minute and like a switch he is very upset, he shys away from his classmates at school and gets very upset when anyone is in his space, he is very smart and talented musically, he plays the viola and clarinet, but his hand writing is like a 1st grader, and he still wets the bed. On the other hand, he is sensitive to other people's feelings, loves to cuddle with adults he trusts, loves his family and pets. Now, my husband is very concerned about starting him on Prosac and wants to talk with the Dr. first. I can understand his view, but on the other hand, I work in the medical field and have worked with children with different special needs and have seen how it can help with anxiety. I want to get a good handle on this with the schools and at home before my husband deploys and my son starts middle school in the Fall. OK, I am done for now. Thanks for reading!!!!

[Guest guest]

Hey Jonna, my daughter is 4 and is also very loving. She has sensory issues that cause her to almost be too loving. She wants to touch and love everyone (well children and some adults but especially her dad and I). She LOVES to cuddle and that is especially soothing to her. Yet she doesn't always recognize when someone else is upset. I think the important thing to realize is that Autism (which Aspergers is part of) is a SPECTRUM. Some kids are going to have aspects that other don't. There is a saying out there "once you have met a child with autism you have met a child with autism", meaning that no 2 children with autism are exactly alike. That is one of the issues with diagnosing autism and aspergers properly. I think as far as medications go

that it has to be a personal decision, I am going to try to stay away from meds but if needed will change my mind. Good luck to you....

Carolyn

From: Jonna <jmp1869@...> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 1:28:18 PMSubject: ( ) New to Group

Hello! My name is Jonna and I am mom to 4 beautiful boys ages 13, 11, 9, and 7. I am also a proud military wife and my husband will be deploying later this year. After a few meetings with a theropist for our 11 year old because of what we felt was anger issues, the theropist suggested that we see the Dr. on staff. At the end of our appt. with the Dr., he had our son sit in the waiting room and he told me that he felt strongly that he has Asperger's and prescribed Prosac for anxiety. I went to the library to check out some books and did some online research and a lot fits, but at the same time some things don't. He has a hard time looking anyone in the eye when talking to them, he has a hard time spitting out the word when talking with anyone, somewhat like his mind is working faster then his mouth can form the words, he is fixated on Pokimon, anything and everything and gets very upset when anyone touches his Pokimon stuff, he can be happy one minute

and like a switch he is very upset, he shys away from his classmates at school and gets very upset when anyone is in his space, he is very smart and talented musically, he plays the viola and clarinet, but his hand writing is like a 1st grader, and he still wets the bed. On the other hand, he is sensitive to other people's feelings, loves to cuddle with adults he trusts, loves his family and pets. Now, my husband is very concerned about starting him on Prosac and wants to talk with the Dr. first. I can understand his view, but on the other hand, I work in the medical field and have worked with children with different special needs and have seen how it can help with anxiety. I want to get a good handle on this with the schools and at home before my husband deploys and my son starts middle school in the Fall. OK, I am done for now. Thanks for reading!!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi Jonna,

I think it's important to make sure you and your husband are on the same page when it comes to medication, and it's great that he wants to talk to the doctor. Let's hope that once he does talk with the doctor, that he gets on board too. Because I have seen that therapy and other treatments didn't really work well until my son was on medication and was able to tone down his anxiety somewhat.

I know not every kid has every symptom of Asperger's, but if he has enough of them as you describe, then you are doing the right thing in getting him help with those issues. If you have more questions or need help with anything, this group is a great resource. Glad to have you here.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Suzanne

suzmarkwood@...

From: Jonna <jmp1869@...>Subject: ( ) New to Group Date: Thursday, March 17, 2011, 11:28 AM

Hello! My name is Jonna and I am mom to 4 beautiful boys ages 13, 11, 9, and 7. I am also a proud military wife and my husband will be deploying later this year. After a few meetings with a theropist for our 11 year old because of what we felt was anger issues, the theropist suggested that we see the Dr. on staff. At the end of our appt. with the Dr., he had our son sit in the waiting room and he told me that he felt strongly that he has Asperger's and prescribed Prosac for anxiety. I went to the library to check out some books and did some online research and a lot fits, but at the same time some things don't. He has a hard time looking anyone in the eye when talking to them, he has a hard time spitting out the word when talking with anyone, somewhat like his mind is working faster then his mouth can form the words, he is fixated on Pokimon, anything and everything and gets very upset when anyone touches his Pokimon stuff, he can be happy one

minute and like a switch he is very upset, he shys away from his classmates at school and gets very upset when anyone is in his space, he is very smart and talented musically, he plays the viola and clarinet, but his hand writing is like a 1st grader, and he still wets the bed. On the other hand, he is sensitive to other people's feelings, loves to cuddle with adults he trusts, loves his family and pets. Now, my husband is very concerned about starting him on Prosac and wants to talk with the Dr. first. I can understand his view, but on the other hand, I work in the medical field and have worked with children with different special needs and have seen how it can help with anxiety. I want to get a good handle on this with the schools and at home before my husband deploys and my son starts middle school in the Fall. OK, I am done for now. Thanks for reading!!!!

[Guest guest]

Hi Jonna, my Aspie son also liked to cuddle, be hugged. He also showed empathy,

sympathy about things. He'd be the first of my 3 sons to ask if I was okay if

he thought I got hurt, etc.

His writing was also " younger " and he never did learn cursive, though many with

motor skill problems find it easier than printing. Maybe it's partly due to

when he prints he makes some letters " the wrong way, " like an e or l he will

start at the bottom of the line and go up to make them.... He also has an

awkward grasp when he writes.

He's 22 now, we didn't get him evaluated until 8th grade for Aspergers. Though

I always felt he had some autistic traits. I think in middle school it stood

out more than when in elementary school.

Prozac - well, my Aspie also has OCD so I know about Prozac to treat OCD. And a

lot of kids have done well on it, kids younger than your son too. To treat for

OCD usually takes higher doses too. Though, really, any of the meds in that

class (SSRI) are so " individual " as to how they work for each person; i.e., what

works great for one person may affect another with unwanted side effects

(behavioral), etc. It's good to start at a low dose and go up slowly.

My son also loved Pokemon! And would talk on & on & on....!

single mom, 3 sons

>

> Hello! My name is Jonna and I am mom to 4 beautiful boys ages 13, 11, 9, and

7. I am also a proud military wife and my husband will be deploying later this

year. After a few meetings with a theropist for our 11 year old because of what

we felt was anger issues, the theropist suggested that we see the Dr. on staff.

At the end of our appt. with the Dr., he had our son sit in the waiting room and

he told me that he felt strongly that he has Asperger's and prescribed

[Guest guest]

First of all, thank you for all the suggestions, they really help.

Now I am a bit worried and confused. We got a letter from the schools over the

weekend saying that they recommend our son to go into a gifted reading and

research class in middle school next year based on his test scores, class room

work, and teacher recommendation. On his report card that we just got, he is

meeting expectations (they don't do a letter system) and is above in just a

couple of areas and below expectations in reading fluency. I don't want to put

more stress on him with going to a bigger school, dad being deployed, and

figuring out everything else that is going on with him. I also don't want a

great opportunity to slip by if it can really help him.

>

> My son is the same and i recommend zoloft for the panic and anxiety and

> risperidone for the anger and behavior. it is a great combination and seems to

> work better. talk to your doctor.

>

>

> Sycamore Art Studios

> Sycamore Art School

> Deborah Gustlin

> Graphic & Web Design

> Art classes for K-12

> www.sycamoreartstudios.com

> www.sycamoreartschool.com

> Home: 408-710-0892

> Business: 408-710-6070

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: Jonna <jmp1869@...>

>

> Sent: Thu, March 17, 2011 11:28:18 AM

> Subject: ( ) New to Group

>

>

> Hello! My name is Jonna and I am mom to 4 beautiful boys ages 13, 11, 9, and

7.

> I am also a proud military wife and my husband will be deploying later this

> year. After a few meetings with a theropist for our 11 year old because of

what

> we felt was anger issues, the theropist suggested that we see the Dr. on

staff.

> At the end of our appt. with the Dr., he had our son sit in the waiting room

and

> he told me that he felt strongly that he has Asperger's and prescribed Prosac

> for anxiety. I went to the library to check out some books and did some

online

> research and a lot fits, but at the same time some things don't. He has a

hard

> time looking anyone in the eye when talking to them, he has a hard time

spitting

> out the word when talking with anyone, somewhat like his mind is working

faster

> then his mouth can form the words, he is fixated on Pokimon, anything and

> everything and gets very upset when anyone touches his Pokimon stuff, he can

be

> happy one minute and like a switch he is very upset, he shys away from his

> classmates at school and gets very upset when anyone is in his space, he is

very

> smart and talented musically, he plays the viola and clarinet, but his hand

> writing is like a 1st grader, and he still wets the bed. On the other hand,

he

> is sensitive to other people's feelings, loves to cuddle with adults he

trusts,

> loves his family and pets. Now, my husband is very concerned about starting

> him on Prosac and wants to talk with the Dr. first. I can understand his

view,

> but on the other hand, I work in the medical field and have worked with

children

> with different special needs and have seen how it can help with anxiety. I

want

> to get a good handle on this with the schools and at home before my husband

> deploys and my son starts middle school in the Fall. OK, I am done for now.

> Thanks for reading!!!!

>