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  • 6 months later...
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Dearest group,

I need to share something very strange that is happening to Levi and get some

commentary.

Have any of you noticed metal flakes coming up through the scalp, especially

during or after chelation?

Following the last two rounds of chelation: about two to three days later I

found small pimples near Levi's hair line, at his face, concentrated near his

face, hidden in the hair line. Levi is ten years old,, a bit early for acne.

If it were acne I would expect a pimple on his nose, one on his back, one on

his cheek, and so on. But these pimples are just inside his hair line from

the top of his ears spaced up to just near the center part of his hair. I

have not seen any at the back of his hair line, the nape of the neck.

While looking at the pimples in his hair I spotted something dark twinkling

at me with an orange ring around it. a bit further back close to where his

soft spot used to be. Then another dark sparkle, and another, all with

orange rust-like rings around the dark sparkles.

I have one of those Intel* play computer microscopes. I picked one of the

sparkles off his head, put in under the scope, and was amazed to see a metal

flake. It looked like a tiny metal corn flake, very thin and barely gathered

together. I plucked another from his scalp, and the same thing, another

metal flake.

I thought maybe these flakes got in his scalp at the beach, like sand that is

hard to get out, so I didn't notify the doctors. I just took note.

A couple of weeks later, I had to give Levi a 24 hour EEG, so I shaved his

head. I took time to notice his scalp; I literally went through it with a

fine tooth comb. :_)

I was paying close attention to his scalp, and there were no more dark shiny

flakes.

Shaved his head on Tuesday, EEG on Thursday, chelated on the following

Wednesday, Thursday, Friday (3on- 11off). Saturday he had pimples in the

hair line and two metal flakes in the scalp. This time we hadn't been to the

beach.

For those of you who are really interested still, there is more!!

The two flakes found yesterday are in the top right section of his head, over

the ear about an inch short of the tip top. This is interesting to me

because this is the same spot that used to swell up and get inflamed when he

was a toddler. It is also the same spot that had heavy dense markings on his

EEG. I don't know what all this means.

Two Questions:

1. I want to get a Doctor to look at it so I need to see what you all think -

a dermatologist, a neurologist, or other?

2. Where should I send these flakes for solid determination of what they

consist of?

Please read this note at least twice before you respond. And then please do

respond.

Judy bronze3n1@...

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In a message dated 7/19/2002 12:33:33 PM Central Standard Time,

shippahoy@... writes:

> Can you get me back on? All I get is the digest since we got back

> yesterday.Thanks,

HI :)

Tis done :) at 3:23pm central time heehee

Kathy mom to Sara 10.......ooooooh on Sat 7-20-02

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Hi y'all,

I am ready to jump back in wholeheartedly and I've inadvertently deleted my

HB/Neutral/Avoid lists from my computer. If anyone else has this please

email me directly. I have loads of O friendly recipes to share/trade.

Thank you in advance,

ccbouchard@...

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http://www.foodforyourblood.com <http://www.foodforyourblood.com/>

Re: Digest Number 1231

Hi y'all,

I am ready to jump back in wholeheartedly and I've inadvertently deleted

my

HB/Neutral/Avoid lists from my computer. If anyone else has this please

email me directly. I have loads of O friendly recipes to share/trade.

Thank you in advance,

ccbouchard@...

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When I asked to be included in the test they said their loaner unit was out

and they would send it as soon as available, but they later said that their

tests with prostate cancer was not successful, so they would not send it.

I assume that either this was actually the case, or they decided that it

would not be wise to advertise or publicize Geipe for treatment of cancer. I

understand the need to stay under the RADAR until they have enough hard

evidence to fight the system.

Dick

Re: Giepe

>

> ..they discouraged you from it, in other words? hmmm. Did they

> describe a protocol for applying the electrodes, Dick?

>

> Bob

>

>

>> They were going to lend me a unit to treat my prostate, but then

> reported

>> that the results for this were not positive.

>>

>> Dick

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

> devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

> advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing,

> you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages

> from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually.

> We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

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> your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

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When I asked to be included in the test they said their loaner unit was out

and they would send it as soon as available, but they later said that their

tests with prostate cancer was not successful, so they would not send it.

I assume that either this was actually the case, or they decided that it

would not be wise to advertise or publicize Geipe for treatment of cancer. I

understand the need to stay under the RADAR until they have enough hard

evidence to fight the system.

Dick

Re: Giepe

>

> ..they discouraged you from it, in other words? hmmm. Did they

> describe a protocol for applying the electrodes, Dick?

>

> Bob

>

>

>> They were going to lend me a unit to treat my prostate, but then

> reported

>> that the results for this were not positive.

>>

>> Dick

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________________________________________________

> ________________________________________________________________________

>

>

> The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of Godzilla

> devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not medical

> advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by joing,

> you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from damages

> from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or individually.

> We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

> repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits. Thanks, for

> your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

> ------------------------------------------------------------------------

>

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thnx...well, reason I asked was I'd heard that applying it just to

the skin was probably too remote to really hit the gland. But,

applying it via an anally inserted electrode would get a much more

direct hit. I was wondering had they tested something like that.

Voltage: they use 3 volts. We use 6 volts. It's really the

current, however, not the volts. With larger electrodes 3 volts

gives same current as we get with smaller less conductive electrodes.

What to do: use a meter and a potentiometer of about 100k to adjust

the current, and hook these both up in series on one of the leads of

the Apprentice Godzilla. An inserted electrode could be made from

the usual available items sold in drugstores for enema usage and

douching. Just run the wire in the center of the applicator. Use

the longer one with a slight curve to it that can press against the

area. Only the tip needs to be hot, so only put the cloth around it

about an inch in all, and just on the side that will touch the area.

Wet with baking soda-water as usual. Keep current low and it might

work. If not, what's the risk? I'm not really sure how sensitive an

area you have inside the rectum vs DC currents. We use it various

places like the mouth, etc that are also pretty sensitive, so don't

quite know the comparison there. Perhaps someone can comment from a

medical perspective on it?

bG

> >> They were going to lend me a unit to treat my prostate, but then

> > reported

> >> that the results for this were not positive.

> >>

> >> Dick

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

______________________________________________________________________

__

> >

______________________________________________________________________

__

> >

> >

> > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> > devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not

medical

> > advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by

joing,

> > you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

damages

> > from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

individually.

> > We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

> > repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits.

Thanks, for

> > your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

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> >

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thnx...well, reason I asked was I'd heard that applying it just to

the skin was probably too remote to really hit the gland. But,

applying it via an anally inserted electrode would get a much more

direct hit. I was wondering had they tested something like that.

Voltage: they use 3 volts. We use 6 volts. It's really the

current, however, not the volts. With larger electrodes 3 volts

gives same current as we get with smaller less conductive electrodes.

What to do: use a meter and a potentiometer of about 100k to adjust

the current, and hook these both up in series on one of the leads of

the Apprentice Godzilla. An inserted electrode could be made from

the usual available items sold in drugstores for enema usage and

douching. Just run the wire in the center of the applicator. Use

the longer one with a slight curve to it that can press against the

area. Only the tip needs to be hot, so only put the cloth around it

about an inch in all, and just on the side that will touch the area.

Wet with baking soda-water as usual. Keep current low and it might

work. If not, what's the risk? I'm not really sure how sensitive an

area you have inside the rectum vs DC currents. We use it various

places like the mouth, etc that are also pretty sensitive, so don't

quite know the comparison there. Perhaps someone can comment from a

medical perspective on it?

bG

> >> They were going to lend me a unit to treat my prostate, but then

> > reported

> >> that the results for this were not positive.

> >>

> >> Dick

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

______________________________________________________________________

__

> >

______________________________________________________________________

__

> >

> >

> > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

Godzilla

> > devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not

medical

> > advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by

joing,

> > you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

damages

> > from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

individually.

> > We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

> > repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits.

Thanks, for

> > your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

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> >

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Hi baby_grand,

THere is this unit tha uses heat to work on the prostate, might get some ideas

for the size of the probe from this product.

http://magneticjewelryshop.com/html/anal_heater.html

Take care,

V

http://www.theledman.net

http://www.pulsepowermeter.com

> thnx...well, reason I asked was I'd heard that applying it just to

> the skin was probably too remote to really hit the gland. But,

> applying it via an anally inserted electrode would get a much more

> direct hit. I was wondering had they tested something like that.

> Voltage: they use 3 volts. We use 6 volts. It's really the

> current, however, not the volts. With larger electrodes 3 volts

> gives same current as we get with smaller less conductive electrodes.

> What to do: use a meter and a potentiometer of about 100k to adjust

> the current, and hook these both up in series on one of the leads of

> the Apprentice Godzilla. An inserted electrode could be made from

> the usual available items sold in drugstores for enema usage and

> douching. Just run the wire in the center of the applicator. Use

> the longer one with a slight curve to it that can press against the

> area. Only the tip needs to be hot, so only put the cloth around it

> about an inch in all, and just on the side that will touch the area.

> Wet with baking soda-water as usual. Keep current low and it might

> work. If not, what's the risk? I'm not really sure how sensitive an

> area you have inside the rectum vs DC currents. We use it various

> places like the mouth, etc that are also pretty sensitive, so don't

> quite know the comparison there. Perhaps someone can comment from a

> medical perspective on it?

> bG

>

>> >> They were going to lend me a unit to treat my prostate, but then

>> > reported

>> >> that the results for this were not positive.

>> >>

>> >> Dick

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

> ______________________________________________________________________

> __

>> >

> ______________________________________________________________________

> __

>> >

>> >

>> > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

> Godzilla

>> > devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not

> medical

>> > advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by

> joing,

>> > you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

> damages

>> > from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

> individually.

>> > We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

>> > repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits.

> Thanks, for

>> > your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

> ------

>> >

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Hi baby_grand,

THere is this unit tha uses heat to work on the prostate, might get some ideas

for the size of the probe from this product.

http://magneticjewelryshop.com/html/anal_heater.html

Take care,

V

http://www.theledman.net

http://www.pulsepowermeter.com

> thnx...well, reason I asked was I'd heard that applying it just to

> the skin was probably too remote to really hit the gland. But,

> applying it via an anally inserted electrode would get a much more

> direct hit. I was wondering had they tested something like that.

> Voltage: they use 3 volts. We use 6 volts. It's really the

> current, however, not the volts. With larger electrodes 3 volts

> gives same current as we get with smaller less conductive electrodes.

> What to do: use a meter and a potentiometer of about 100k to adjust

> the current, and hook these both up in series on one of the leads of

> the Apprentice Godzilla. An inserted electrode could be made from

> the usual available items sold in drugstores for enema usage and

> douching. Just run the wire in the center of the applicator. Use

> the longer one with a slight curve to it that can press against the

> area. Only the tip needs to be hot, so only put the cloth around it

> about an inch in all, and just on the side that will touch the area.

> Wet with baking soda-water as usual. Keep current low and it might

> work. If not, what's the risk? I'm not really sure how sensitive an

> area you have inside the rectum vs DC currents. We use it various

> places like the mouth, etc that are also pretty sensitive, so don't

> quite know the comparison there. Perhaps someone can comment from a

> medical perspective on it?

> bG

>

>> >> They were going to lend me a unit to treat my prostate, but then

>> > reported

>> >> that the results for this were not positive.

>> >>

>> >> Dick

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

>> >

> ______________________________________________________________________

> __

>> >

> ______________________________________________________________________

> __

>> >

>> >

>> > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

> Godzilla

>> > devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum, not

> medical

>> > advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but by

> joing,

>> > you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator, from

> damages

>> > from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

> individually.

>> > We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything about

>> > repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits.

> Thanks, for

>> > your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

>> > ------------------------------------------------------------------

> ------

>> >

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looks like 3 " is about right for the probe, based on this. It looks

like the probe is very thin for an electrical source, however. I'd

think at least 1/2 " wide at the contact point would have to be for

electricity.

> >> >> They were going to lend me a unit to treat my prostate, but

then

> >> > reported

> >> >> that the results for this were not positive.

> >> >>

> >> >> Dick

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >

______________________________________________________________________

> > __

> >> >

> >

______________________________________________________________________

> > __

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

> > Godzilla

> >> > devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum,

not

> > medical

> >> > advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but

by

> > joing,

> >> > you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator,

from

> > damages

> >> > from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

> > individually.

> >> > We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything

about

> >> > repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits.

> > Thanks, for

> >> > your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------

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> > ------

> >> >

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looks like 3 " is about right for the probe, based on this. It looks

like the probe is very thin for an electrical source, however. I'd

think at least 1/2 " wide at the contact point would have to be for

electricity.

> >> >> They were going to lend me a unit to treat my prostate, but

then

> >> > reported

> >> >> that the results for this were not positive.

> >> >>

> >> >> Dick

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >> >

> >

______________________________________________________________________

> > __

> >> >

> >

______________________________________________________________________

> > __

> >> >

> >> >

> >> > The group's main page has a menu to the left, with photos of

> > Godzilla

> >> > devices and info. This is a discussion, free speech forum,

not

> > medical

> >> > advice. All info is free to members. Membership is free, but

by

> > joing,

> >> > you agree to hold harmless the posters, including moderator,

from

> > damages

> >> > from anything you find here whether jointly, severally, or

> > individually.

> >> > We are interested in your results, but cannot say anything

about

> >> > repeatability, or whether this might have medical benefits.

> > Thanks, for

> >> > your understanding, good luck researching. --bG

> >> > ---------------------------------------------------------------

---

> > ------

> >> >

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Hi baby_grand,

Yes the probe is about 1/2 inch dia. at the tip and the metal part is 3 1/4 inch

long.

Take care,

V

> looks like 3 " is about right for the probe, based on this. It looks

> like the probe is very thin for an electrical source, however. I'd

> think at least 1/2 " wide at the contact point would have to be for

> electricity.

>

>> Hi baby_grand,

>>

>> THere is this unit tha uses heat to work on the prostate, might get

> some ideas for the size of the probe from this product.

>> http://magneticjewelryshop.com/html/anal_heater.html

>>

>>

>>

>>

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Hi baby_grand,

Yes the probe is about 1/2 inch dia. at the tip and the metal part is 3 1/4 inch

long.

Take care,

V

> looks like 3 " is about right for the probe, based on this. It looks

> like the probe is very thin for an electrical source, however. I'd

> think at least 1/2 " wide at the contact point would have to be for

> electricity.

>

>> Hi baby_grand,

>>

>> THere is this unit tha uses heat to work on the prostate, might get

> some ideas for the size of the probe from this product.

>> http://magneticjewelryshop.com/html/anal_heater.html

>>

>>

>>

>>

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In a message dated 10/16/2005 11:11:59 AM Pacific Daylight Time,

Hepatitis C writes:

Message: 1

Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2005 23:21:47 -0000

From: " Suzy " <suzygriffin@...>

Subject: Re: California Cops Go To Pot

Trust me, Bill, the pot is NOT free.

By the way, I've never heard of anyone getting HCV from smoking pot.

I can be a smart ass too.

>

> What is this post? Move to Cali and smoke pot for

> free. Aren't you leaving a good message out

> there.Smoke pot for HepC. I am sorry, but all of those

> bad habbits is what got me in the shape that I am in

> today. I think I just might go to Cali and use again.

> Yippee. Bill

>

Hi..i have not posted in a long time..just happened by chance to read this

post..I have a

question that would like some input that relates somewhat to this.

I go to a Hep C doctor in Oakland,CA...oasisclilnic.org.

It is a long story how the oaisis clinic part came about..Doctor was there

first and things

just took off in another direction. She is also an Addictionologist, well

known advocate of

Hep C and in particular those needing treatment with drug history.

She has worked very hard, very committed politically also. I have gone to

Sacramento a

couple times with clinic to fight for Hep C rights.

Well..she finally was able to move the clinic to a bigger place and so

forth..has put much

work into it. Ironically right across the street from Mayor's loft!!

Oakland has cutback it's cannibas clubs from seven to a anxious waiting 4.

Well..one of the chosen '4' find a spot (hard to find now in oakland, this

is all downtown.)

The spot is right next door to the Doctor's office and Support clinic.

This did not set well with clinic..conflicting reasons..altho doctor has

given lectures and

studies showing pot smoking has helped patients with tx..still...we have had

robberies,

and just negative happenings with the pot clubs. Personally we all agree

they should be

legal but not next to our Doctor's office.

We went to City Hall to protest..pot club is given temporary stay of about 2

wks..then

decision will be made how long they have to relocate.

I have somewhat mixed feelings..sorta just in limbo..what does anyone else

think?

thanks,

Csue

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Hey, CSue.

Just a few thoughts off the top off my head: Oakland? Are you for

real? Are you actually having to go downtown?

If this is your only choice, I would advise you to concentrate on

the UNDESIRABLE elements you encounter while attending to your

illness. DO NOT go to Oakland. I sure as F... wouldn't.

Who gives a crap about mj next to your FREE medical programs??

Aren't you gay? Whoooooooooooooooohhhoooooooooooooooooooooooooo,

Let's ALL promote BS.

Remember, DUDE. You are among the few in the US who actually

receive gov't help. And if that's all there is, WELL,

helppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppppp.\

> >

>

>

> > What is this post? Move to Cali and smoke pot for

> > free. Aren't you leaving a good message out

> > there.Smoke pot for HepC. I am sorry, but all of those

> > bad habbits is what got me in the shape that I am in

> > today. I think I just might go to Cali and use again.

> > Yippee. Bill

> >

>

>

>

>

> Hi..i have not posted in a long time..just happened by chance to

read this

> post..I have a

> question that would like some input that relates somewhat to this.

> I go to a Hep C doctor in Oakland,CA...oasisclilnic.org.

> It is a long story how the oaisis clinic part came about..Doctor

was there

> first and things

> just took off in another direction. She is also an

Addictionologist, well

> known advocate of

> Hep C and in particular those needing treatment with drug history.

> She has worked very hard, very committed politically also. I have

gone to

> Sacramento a

> couple times with clinic to fight for Hep C rights.

> Well..she finally was able to move the clinic to a bigger place

and so

> forth..has put much

> work into it. Ironically right across the street from Mayor's

loft!!

> Oakland has cutback it's cannibas clubs from seven to a anxious

waiting 4.

> Well..one of the chosen '4' find a spot (hard to find now in

oakland, this

> is all downtown.)

> The spot is right next door to the Doctor's office and Support

clinic.

> This did not set well with clinic..conflicting reasons..altho

doctor has

> given lectures and

> studies showing pot smoking has helped patients with

tx..still...we have had

> robberies,

> and just negative happenings with the pot clubs. Personally we

all agree

> they should be

> legal but not next to our Doctor's office.

> We went to City Hall to protest..pot club is given temporary stay

of about 2

> wks..then

> decision will be made how long they have to relocate.

>

> I have somewhat mixed feelings..sorta just in limbo..what does

anyone else

> think?

>

> thanks,

> Csue

>

>

>

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