Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 In a message dated 8/18/2003 6:50:21 PM Eastern Daylight Time, drf218@... writes: > ? School starts Monday...YEA! > So soon? I thought you were in Pa. School doesn't start here in NYC until 9/8! Kathy, Liam's mom( 5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 In a message dated 8/19/2003 10:21:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, drf218@... writes: > What is BIP? > Behavioral Intervention Plan. In NYC (anyway) it is created from an FBA (Functional Behavioral Assessment) and becomes part of the IEP. Kathy, Liam's mom( 5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 In a message dated 8/19/2003 10:21:20 AM Eastern Daylight Time, drf218@... writes: > What is BIP? > Behavioral Intervention Plan. In NYC (anyway) it is created from an FBA (Functional Behavioral Assessment) and becomes part of the IEP. Kathy, Liam's mom( 5) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 School started here already-1/2 day yesterday and today and tomorrow whole days. Sue & Alyssa-MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2003 Report Share Posted August 21, 2003 School started here already-1/2 day yesterday and today and tomorrow whole days. Sue & Alyssa-MI Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2004 Report Share Posted March 4, 2004 at the bottom of Will's IEP I had them add a section under the parents wants that if Will is having a bad day or if he has a seizure in school they have to give him what ever time he needs to regroup himself and if he needs a nap then he has to take it. Lori Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 20, 2004 Report Share Posted April 20, 2004 Macey's IEP expires within the school year and so we have to have a meeting then. The IEP covers the school year but expires at an odd time it seems. Ursula Holleman mom to (11 yrs old) and Macey (8 yr. old with CVID, Diabetes Insipidus, colonic inertia) http://members.cox.net/maceyh Immune Deficiency Foundation - Peer Contact for GA http://www.primaryimmune.org / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 21, 2004 Report Share Posted April 21, 2004 ---While some schools have been known to do that forma practice (writing the IEP's for only the school year) it is considered illegal. Also, as a parent you can call an IEP meeting at ANY TIME!!!!! It is your right ! the school shold be understanding of the moving situation, anyhow. I would request an IEP meeting asap, and waive your rights for a 10 day notice, just to get things going. If her casemanager doesn't get on the ball, call the special ed. department chair, or superintendent. Just mention the words " due process " and they will move at the speed of lightnening! Good luck! susan In , " Becky McClure " <beckymcclure825@m...> wrote: > I know that many of you out there can help me, and I hope someone can answer this question. > > > Maddie's IEP for 2nd grade was written on 4-22-03. Inside the IEP it states it is for services from Aug 2003 to May 30, 2004. > > My mom told me-she is a CASA (court appointed special advocate for children) that since we did the IEP on 4-22-03 that it expires on that date-regardless of what the inside dates are. The special ed dept at my daughters school disagrees and say that it is still valid. I work in special education and noone I work for has ever seen this done. My concern is that we may have to move within the next few months-and I do not want any issues with getting this iep transferred-and knowing the school the way I do-I am afraid something will happen with Maddie healthwise, and then they will come back and say the iep is no good and tough luck. THey are not the most understanding people at our school-as a matter of fact they were rude about me questioning them about all of this. > > Any advice would be great. > > Becky in IN-mom to Maddie, IgA def, gerd, asthma, mild cp, mitochondrial disease........ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 Tameika, You can ask to be included in the IEP meeting so that everyone will be working together towards the same goals, and offer suggestions on how to deal with his behavior, but that is probably it. You can certainly write up an explanation of how you deal with behavior problems, and see if it will work in the classroom, or if there is some comprimise. If the suggestions are endorssed by the parents, then they should be some how incorporated in the IEP. Wheter the school allows you at the meeting is upp to the school, and will also depend on how much mom pushes for you to be there. Some schools prefer to have a representative from the home program, others want to just do things their way. It depends on the district and the school. Amnesty > Hi, > For the parents in the group: I am working as a therapist for a child > with no consultant, or other therapists. His Mom would like me to > write up a behavior plan including procedures I use in ABA, to take > to his IEP meeting. Does anyone know if the school will allow this to > be included in his IEP? Also, would the school allow me to present > it, or would Mom have to? This Mom is newly diagnosed and not sure if > she can make the school handle behaviors the same way I am in his ABA > therapy. Thank you > Tameika Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 29, 2004 Report Share Posted September 29, 2004 I think the parents can bring whoever they want to the IEP. If the parents want you there, the school cannot exclude you. My school always asked for advance notice of who I was bringing. If you get invited come armed with data that what you are doing is working and ideas for ways it can fit into the school program. That's my opinion. Good luck. H. On Sep 29, 2004, at 11:18 PM, Amnesty wrote: > Tameika, > You can ask to be included in the IEP meeting so that everyone will > be working together towards the same goals, and offer suggestions on > how to deal with his behavior, but that is probably it. You can > certainly write up an explanation of how you deal with behavior > problems, and see if it will work in the classroom, or if there is > some comprimise. If the suggestions are endorssed by the parents, > then they should be some how incorporated in the IEP. Wheter the > school allows you at the meeting is upp to the school, and will also > depend on how much mom pushes for you to be there. Some schools > prefer to have a representative from the home program, others want > to just do things their way. It depends on the district and the > school. > Amnesty > >> Hi, >> For the parents in the group: I am working as a therapist for a > child >> with no consultant, or other therapists. His Mom would like me to >> write up a behavior plan including procedures I use in ABA, to > take >> to his IEP meeting. Does anyone know if the school will allow this > to >> be included in his IEP? Also, would the school allow me to present >> it, or would Mom have to? This Mom is newly diagnosed and not sure > if >> she can make the school handle behaviors the same way I am in his > ABA >> therapy. Thank you >> Tameika > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2004 Report Share Posted September 30, 2004 In a message dated 9/29/04 11:19:43 PM, amnestyb@... writes: << Wheter the school allows you at the meeting is upp to the school, and will also depend on how much mom pushes for you to be there. Some schools prefer to have a representative from the home program, others want to just do things their way. It depends on the district and the school. >> If the parents want you to be at the IEP meeting, they should inform the school in advance (when returning the IEP meeting notice) that you will accompany them. This is a courtesy that should be given to the school. You are then a member of the IEP team and your input should be considered. However, (and this is a big one) the school does not have to follow your recommendations - they only have to consider them. So, parents have the right to include anyone who has knowledge of their child in the IEP meeting. The school district cannot refuse to allow you to be included IF the parents want you there. (Although, it may cause them to bring in additional " experts " of their own.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 Tell her you want evaluations by everyone in the district (speech, language, physical therapy, psychologists, teachers, etc.). That seems ridiculous that they would completely drop the IEP...I can understand modifying it, but ending it, that's just absurd. IEP Question My 11 year old ds has been on an IEP since kindergarten for Developmental Delays and Aspergers Syndrome. At the IEP meeting yesterday, the Sp. Ed Director announced that he was all better and doing so well that they were going to end his IEP. He still has an IQ of 72 and still is an Aspie. He has terrrible grades and is almost twelve stuck in 4th grade. Does anyone have any recommendations that might help get her to not do this? Geriwife to mom to Logan, Joanna, Krista, Christain, Sadie, Abigail, and Shelbie¸...¸ ___/ /\ \___,·´º o`·,/__/ _/\_ \__\```)¨(´´´ | | | | | | | || |l¸,.-·²°´ ¸,.-·~·~·-.,¸ `°²·-. :º°As for me and my house, we will serve the LordAdoptiveParentsSupport/ No virus found in this incoming message.Checked by AVG Free Edition.Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.5/300 - Release Date: 4/3/2006 has notified the sender that this message has been received. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 4, 2006 Report Share Posted April 4, 2006 If he is almost 12 and still in the 4th grade, that means that THEY are not doing what is necessary to educate him. Do they find his grades acceptible????? I would fight them on that one. I would contact an advocate or even a lawyer familiar with education law. Dont let them do it!!!!! in Lancaster, CaGeris5@... wrote: My 11 year old ds has been on an IEP since kindergarten for Developmental Delays and Aspergers Syndrome. At the IEP meeting yesterday, the Sp. Ed Director announced that he was all better and doing so well that they were going to end his IEP. He still has an IQ of 72 and still is an Aspie. He has terrrible grades and is almost twelve stuck in 4th grade. Does anyone have any recommendations that might help get her to not do this? Geriwife to mom to Logan, Joanna, Krista, Christain, Sadie, Abigail, and Shelbie¸...¸ ___/ /\ \___,·´º o`·,/__/ _/\_ \__\```)¨(´´´ | | | | | | | || |l¸,.-·²°´ ¸,.-·~·~·-.,¸ `°²·-. :º°As for me and my house, we will serve the LordAdoptiveParentsSupport/ How low will we go? Check out Messenger’s low PC-to-Phone call rates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 6, 2006 Report Share Posted April 6, 2006 --Go to www.childpsychologist.com This offers you free Advocacy Training Videos This is a shortened course to give you the training to be able to use the laws to your advantage in you IEP meetings. I've only finished three of the videos and it is amazing what the laws can do for you. - In Autism and Aspergers Treatment , Geris5@... wrote: > > My 11 year old ds has been on an IEP since kindergarten for Developmental > Delays and Aspergers Syndrome. At the IEP meeting yesterday, the Sp. Ed Director > announced that he was all better and doing so well that they were going to > end his IEP. He still has an IQ of 72 and still is an Aspie. He has terrrible > grades and is almost twelve stuck in 4th grade. Does anyone have any > recommendations that might help get her to not do this? > > Geri > wife to > mom to Logan, Joanna, Krista, Christain, Sadie, Abigail, and Shelbie > > > ¸...¸ ___/ /\ \___ > ,·´º o`·,/__/ _/\_ \__\ > ```)¨(´´´ | | | | | | | || |l > ¸,.-·²°´ ¸,.-·~·~·-.,¸ `°²·-. :º° > As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord > > _AdoptiveParentsSupport/_ > (AdoptiveParentsSupport/) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2006 Report Share Posted July 26, 2006 In Washington State if the child isn't 2 years behind in any subject they would be put on a 504 plan instead of an IEP. My daughter who will be a junior this year is on a 504 plan and I strongly suggest it. Most of the times you can get a teacher to work with you but you always run into the ones who won't. We have on coming up this fall that says she can't be in honors due to her absences and that is against the law. Her 504 plan prevents this teacher to make this decision and will have to allow her to be in the honors program. Yes it will be a battle to get the teacher to follow the plan but we have the law behind us that she can't discriminate against my daughter. I don't know what state you live in and IEP and 504 are different in some states and school districts. I hope this helps! Lorri ( 16 CVID) IEP question Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 I somehow missed the previous posts related to your response (we had no power for 5 days) so I don't know what the IEP question was but I too have a 16 yr old daughter who will be a junior and the school was talking IEP but someone else (from this group) had recommended a 504. Is the 504 is more limited? But it still allows provisions for things like " grading will be based on work completed, " correct? How did you find out about this specific law about the honors classes? My daughter was denied one of her honors courses due to absences (actually due to having to complete missed work independently last summer). We live in California and the education code is overwhelmingly long. This spring, her chemistry teacher was the only instructor that went out of his way to work with us so she could complete her coursework (my daughter missed all but 2 weeks of the spring semester). This fall will be her first 504 or IEP because I had to learn the hard way that her school (magnet school with tech program and national reputation to protect) only cares about the students that are producing stellar test scores (my daughter wasn't even there for testing). One or two mom's with high schooler's offered their input a while back (most had grade school age children) but I would welcome any suggestions you might have. ( 16 CVID) Lorri Kraft <llkraft@...> wrote: In Washington State if the child isn't 2 years behind in any subject they would be put on a 504 plan instead of an IEP. My daughter who will be a junior this year is on a 504 plan and I strongly suggest it. Most of the times you can get a teacher to work with you but you always run into the ones who won't. We have on coming up this fall that says she can't be in honors due to her absences and that is against the law. Her 504 plan prevents this teacher to make this decision and will have to allow her to be in the honors program. Yes it will be a battle to get the teacher to follow the plan but we have the law behind us that she can't discriminate against my daughter. I don't know what state you live in and IEP and 504 are different in some states and school districts. I hope this helps! Lorri ( 16 CVID) IEP question __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2006 Report Share Posted July 28, 2006 A 504 or an IEP are both Federal programs. They are exactly the same but one is an IEP for being behind in academics and a 504 is for everything else. The website I got all my information is a parent advocate for parents in Washington State but I am sure you can get info from there. If you go to your search engine and type in " 504 plan laws " you will get all the federal laws and information for California. You can get examples and then tell the school that under section(fill in the blank) it states you can not discriminate against my child. The district has to follow the federal laws or get a lawyer. That is all there is to it! Lorri ( 16 CVID) IEP question __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2006 Report Share Posted July 29, 2006 The school has called and suggested that we get together to get her either a 504 or IEP under other health impaired. I think this is a great idea-but my mom's friend who is a high school teacher-is ADAMANTLY against it. I have no idea why she would be against it. But, it is very important that you do get one, the school is RIGHT. Good for them for suggesting it!! Can I ask you what her arthritis symptoms are? Janet, mom to Brittany CVID age 15 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 This was posted a while ago by someone else. I saved it and am sharing it with you. Hope it helps. 504/IEP: If you have school age kids w/asthma please go to the following web sites. Asthma is a covered disability under Section 504 of the Americans with Disability's Act. Which does my child need a 504 or an IEP? There are two types of written plans, which must be developed and implemented by public schools regarding students with disabilities. First, students with disabilities requiring only reasonable accommodation must have a written plan under Section 504; this is commonly referred to as a 504 plan. Each public school should have a person (usually an assistant principal or a guidance counselor, but not a special educator) who serves as the school's " 504 coordinator. " This person should coordinate the development, maintenance, and implementation of 504 plans. 504 plans should be developed by a committee, consisting of the student with a disability (if appropriate), the student's parent(s)/guardian(s), the student's teacher(s), the student's counselor, and the 504 coordinator. Additionally, special educators often serve as advisors to 504 committees. The student's disability and corresponding need for reasonable accommodation are identified and documented in the plan. Likewise, the plan delineates the specific accommodations, which will be implemented by the school. All school staff involved in the provision of accommodations should be contacted by the 504 coordinator and made aware of their duties and responsibilities. The plan itself should be updated at least annually. For students with disabilities who require specialized instruction, the IDEA controls the procedural requirements. The IDEA process is more involved than that required under Section 504. Instruction and accommodation under the IDEA are provided in accord with a plan called an Individualized Education Program, known as an IEP. A student's IEP is a legal document which, in part, sets forth the duties and responsibilities of the school district and staff regarding that student. It is the responsibility of special educators, regular education teachers, administrators, counselors, and other professional educators to be thoroughly familiar with the provisions of the IEP for EACH of their students with disabilities. The remainder of this document sets forth the general procedural information that regular educators should know about the IEP/IDEA process. REMEMBER: Be safe. Seek the advice of special educators. Whether you are a teacher, an administrator, or a counselor, you will save yourself considerable time and trouble -- and you will do a much better job for your students with disabilities -- if you learn to appreciate these specialists as a valuable resource. http://www.slc.sevier.org/iepv504.htm also One stop place for 504 information. Section 504 is a civil rights law that prohibits discrimination against individuals with disabilities. Section 504 ensures that the child with a disability has equal access to an education. The child may receive accommodations and modifications. Unlike the Individuals with Disabilities Education Act (IDEA), Section 504 does not require the school to provide an individualized educational program (IEP) that is designed to meet the child's unique needs and provides the child with educational benefit. Fewer procedural safeguards are available for disabled children and their parents under Section 504 than under IDEA. Advocacy To be an effective advocate for a child with a disability, you need to know your rights and responsibilities under the IDEA and Section 504. The text of the Section 504 statute and regulations are in slaw: Special Education Law. Learn about Section 504 protections in slaw: From Emotions to Advocacy (pages 175-184). http://www.wrightslaw.com/info/sec504.index.htm Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 I can see why a teacher might be adamantly against a kid getting an IEP or 504 plan: they're a lot of work for the teacher, sometimes a whole lot of work. Just one or two kids on an IEP or 504 plan can sometimes double a teacher's workload for that class. Since a teacher has only a limited amount of time each day, time spent meeting special needs is time the teacher can't spend on other classroom activities. That's particularly problematic when you're working with honors kids who have otherwise shown they have the ability to more than keep up and do great work, and both expect and deserve a little more from their teachers and classroom experience. The problem with IEPs and 504 plans is that the law requires compliance but doesn't provide additional classroom resouces to do so. -- > The school has called and suggested that we get together to > get her either a 504 or IEP under other health impaired. I > think this is a great idea-but my mom's friend who is a high > school teacher-is ADAMANTLY against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 , I say to bad for the teacher! I work in the education field with all of my students on IEP and I feel I need to do it so does everyone else! Lorri *( 16 cvid) Re: IEP question I can see why a teacher might be adamantly against a kid getting an IEP or 504 plan: they're a lot of work for the teacher, sometimes a whole lot of work. Just one or two kids on an IEP or 504 plan can sometimes double a teacher's workload for that class. Since a teacher has only a limited amount of time each day, time spent meeting special needs is time the teacher can't spend on other classroom activities. That's particularly problematic when you're working with honors kids who have otherwise shown they have the ability to more than keep up and do great work, and both expect and deserve a little more from their teachers and classroom experience. The problem with IEPs and 504 plans is that the law requires compliance but doesn't provide additional classroom resouces to do so. -- > The school has called and suggested that we get together to > get her either a 504 or IEP under other health impaired. I > think this is a great idea-but my mom's friend who is a high > school teacher-is ADAMANTLY against it. This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional advice. To unsubscribe -unsubscribegroups (DOT) To search group archives go to: /messages Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2006 Report Share Posted July 30, 2006 Yup. My son, who has learning disabilities (I'm the one with a PID, not him) has been on an IEP since the third grade. I'm constantly having to apply pressure on the school and teachers to make sure they actually do the things laid out in the IEP. -- > > The school has called and suggested that we get together to > > get her either a 504 or IEP under other health impaired. I > > think this is a great idea-but my mom's friend who is a high > > school teacher-is ADAMANTLY against it. > > > > > > > This forum is open to parents and caregivers of children diagnosed with a > Primary Immune Deficiency. Opinions or medical advice stated here are the > sole responsibility of the poster and should not be taken as professional > advice. > > To unsubscribe -unsubscribegroups (DOT) > To search group archives go to: > /messages > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 17, 2006 Report Share Posted September 17, 2006 That seems TOTALLY bizzare to me. I put my son in a private school this year, but when he was in public school, they certainly tried to formulate goals that met HIS needs, not some expectation for the school system that he just couldn't do. In our school district, we were allowed to " opt out " of testing in special ed. Are you able to do so? If so, you might want to consider that, and then the teacher might not feel so pressured to make academic goals that are unreasonable. In the meantime, refuse to sign the IEP. IEP Question > >My son, , is 11 years old and began the 6th grade this year at >Glynn Middle School in Glynn County, Georgia. Last week we sat down to >work on an IEP with his teacher (who seems to be a very bright, >capable person). > > has a limited vocabulary. He can write his first name with >help. He can count to 20. He can't tell time. He can't read. In >other words, he is classed as " moderately to severely autistic. " > >The teacher told us that this year, special needs children in Glynn >County have to meet Georgia's testing standards and for his IEP we >have to choose goals like " will read a novel and write about its >meaning " or " will learn the basic concepts of Algebra. " > >This is a child who speaks in two or three word sentences and has >trouble using the bathroom. He can't brush his own teeth. But he is >supposed to read a novel and learn Algebra and earth sciences. I've >only scratched the surface of what he is supposed to do. My question >is, is this being done on a state wide level or is this just Glynn >County? What we are being asked to formulate is not an " Individual " >education plan. > >Thanks > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 In a message dated 9/17/06 12:51:41 PM, j_principato@... writes: >The teacher told us that this year, special needs children in Glynn > >County have to meet Georgia's testing standards and for his IEP we > >have to choose goals like " will read a novel and write about its > >meaning " or " will learn the basic concepts of Algebra. " This teacher does not understand (or did not explain correctly) how can access the same curriculum as other students in the same grade level. 's IEP goals should be written so that he is able to participate at his own level. He does not have to READ a novel and WRITE about it's meaning. IF the 5th grade is reading " Where the Red Fern Grows " then he could listen to it on tape, have it read to him, see the movie, or have a picture book made for him that abbreviates and simplifies the story. So . . . he doesn't have to actually DO what the other students are doing - but what he is doing in school should align with what the other students are doing. Teachers will have to be creative in finding ways for each student to gain access to the curriculum. There is training going on across the state to guide teachers in writing goals and creatively adapting the Georgia Performance Standards for our children with intellectual disabilities. It can be done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 18, 2006 Report Share Posted September 18, 2006 IEP goals must be objective. I am a firm believer that they should be based on grade level IGOs. Marilyn Pyles Lilburn, GAKAddams@... wrote: In a message dated 9/17/06 12:51:41 PM, j_principato writes:>The teacher told us that this year, special needs children in Glynn>>County have to meet Georgia's testing standards and for his IEP we>>have to choose goals like " will read a novel and write about its>>meaning" or " will learn the basic concepts of Algebra."This teacher does not understand (or did not explain correctly) how can access the same curriculum as other students in the same grade level. 's IEP goals should be written so that he is able to participate at his own level. He does not have to READ a novel and WRITE about it's meaning. IF the 5th grade is reading "Where the Red Fern Grows" then he could listen to it on tape, have it read to him, see the movie, or have a picture book made for him that abbreviates and simplifies the story. So . . . he doesn't have to actually DO what the other students are doing - but what he is doing in school should align with what the other students are doing. Teachers will have to be creative in finding ways for each student to gain access to the curriculum. There is training going on across the state to guide teachers in writing goals and creatively adapting the Georgia Performance Standards for our children with intellectual disabilities. It can be done. Stay in the know. Pulse on the new .com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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