just wondering

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My eyes went from both blue to one blue and one brown when I was

around 4 months. I did a reasearch project on heterochromia and I

learned that when eyes quickly change color it can be the sine of a

brain tumor. Not to scare you but my doctor never checked and as my

research showed he should have. If no one else in your family has hc

you may want to ask you doctor about it.

I am left handed and born in early March. Its totally a weird fluke

though..our eyes are genetic!!!

-- In heterochromia , " Dupon " <mdupon@...>

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> From: heterochromia

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> On Behalf Of julie@...

> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:13 PM

> heterochromia

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> My son, , is also a righty (I'm pretty sure anyway) and born

in

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> He just turned one last weekend and we are getting the referral to

go see

> an opthamologist. His eyes were the same color (deep blue) when he

was

> born and around 5 months, one stayed blue and the other turned

mostly

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> >> hi, i have a question, i've met 4 or 5 people with

heterochromia, and

> >> the thing is, they've all been left handed and born in february

like

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Right handed , November 10bobfv1 <bobfv@...> wrote: > > > what percent of people have heterochromia, it's still a shock for me > to find out this many people have it. and also how many have > heterochromia iridis, which is more rare? Any one who knows please > shre the info. thanks for your time. Ashlee I'm right handed and born in

November too! Maybe we have a new trend..... >

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Well, I admit, even the remote possibility of a brain tumor (or anything

of the sort) freaks me out as my sister-in-law and a former boyfriend have

both recently passed away of brain tumors within just 2 years of each

other, one at age 29 and one at 30. (Obviously, the mention of brain

tumors at all is extremely disconcerting!)

On a positve note, we had the regular pediatric check-up today for my son

turning 1 and since he appears perfectly healthy otherwise, we're going to

see the opthamologist just to be sure there isn't anything else going on.

Keep your fingers crossed and I'm assuming all is indeed good. And since

you mentioned it, no, we have no family history of hc on either side (that

we know of).

Thanks to everyone for sharing all and any info you know - folks like me

appreciate it!

> My eyes went from both blue to one blue and one brown when I was

> around 4 months. I did a reasearch project on heterochromia and I

> learned that when eyes quickly change color it can be the sine of a

> brain tumor. Not to scare you but my doctor never checked and as my

> research showed he should have. If no one else in your family has hc

> you may want to ask you doctor about it.

> I am left handed and born in early March. Its totally a weird fluke

> though..our eyes are genetic!!!

>

>

> -- In heterochromia , " Dupon " <mdupon@...>

> wrote:

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>> Mine changed when I was 10 months and are still the same.

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>> From: heterochromia

> [mailto:heterochromia ]

>> On Behalf Of julie@...

>> Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:13 PM

>> heterochromia

>> Subject: Re: Re: just wondering

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>> My son, , is also a righty (I'm pretty sure anyway) and born

> in

>> September.

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>> He just turned one last weekend and we are getting the referral to

> go see

>> an opthamologist. His eyes were the same color (deep blue) when he

> was

>> born and around 5 months, one stayed blue and the other turned

> mostly

>> brown with a little blue.

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>> >> hi, i have a question, i've met 4 or 5 people with

> heterochromia, and

>> >> the thing is, they've all been left handed and born in february

> like

>> >> me. Is this a coincidence or are there more of you out there?

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I'm finding all of this fascinating stuff thanks to everybody,

My son is 18mths old next month and I may just take him to the Doctors after all, I didn't know about that brain tumour thing.

Is it normally only when there is no hereditary connection then? his eye seemed to "go" all at once at about 5mths. But as I said in another e mail there is another case of it on my husbands side (but it isn't sectoral with her) so does that mean he should be ok?... I'll have to get a picture of him posted to show you all.

Also does anybody know what the odds are that my baby daughter will have it? She is 4 months and we keep watching her blue eyes but nothing seems to be happening as yet.

Re: Re: just wondering>>>>>>>> My son, , is also a righty (I'm pretty sure anyway) and born> in>> September.>>>> He just turned one last weekend and we are getting the referral to> go see>> an opthamologist. His eyes were the same color (deep blue) when he> was>> born and around 5 months, one stayed blue and the other turned> mostly>> brown with a little blue.>>>> > Right handed born in September>> >>> > >> >>>> >> hi, i have a question, i've met 4 or 5 people with> heterochromia, and>> >> the thing is, they've all been left handed and born in february> like>> >> me. Is this a coincidence or are there more of you out there?>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>>>>

[Guest guest]

no actually...it can be any disease that changes eye color so

suddenly...any illness...especially at a young age can cause it...and

no...eye color is NOT NECESSARILY hereditary, it is a polygenic

trait...it all depends on how much melanin your body produces...which

differs for EVERY living thing with eyes...minus potatoes lol

-Sam

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I was born on Groundhogs Day (2/2) and am right-handed when it comes

to writing...yet do everything else left-handed.. i.e. I snowboard and

am " goofy footed " , meaning that I skate opposite of what a 'righty'

would do.

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Heidi,

I just know you will get all kinds of good advice from this group from people

who care, but I just want you to know that you are not alone.

My daughter does not have thyroid or add/adhd problems (yet), but I have sure

gone through the feeling of wondering what can happen next. She has been an

escape artist - she got lost from me on vacation recently - like I had to find a

policeman to help locate her, in a place where most everyone spoke French. Then,

while I napped on our couch (I know, what was I thinking, taking a nap? I was

just so tired) She went out the back door, out the gate from the backyard, and

into our van, parked in the driveway. My sons and I found her, maybe 15-30

minutes later, in the van crying, and it was hot. God knows what could have

happened if we hadn't found her. The next week she went in the basement with me

to put laundry away, except that she made a stop in the bathroom, turned on a

faucet, and flooded the bathroom, I found out hours later. I started thinking I

should give her away before I let her do real harm to herself.

You don't say how old ph is, but I have a son who is now 23, and acts like a

polite young man. He was a hyperactive troublesome kid for most of his young

years though, I often can't believe he is as well-mannered as he is now. So, I

do have some proof that the wild impulsive behavior Joe is showing you can be

curbed as he ages.

Take care, Patty

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At first when I read this post, nothing came to me, but after reading Patty's

post I have some interesting thoughts. We have had Myah on Adderall for about 2

months now and it has made all the difference in the world. I wish we would have

gotten to this point sooner-I turely mean it. She was so impulsive and

destructive, you never knew what was coming next. We have locks on the tops of

ALL of the doors inside and outside the house. The back door has a deadbolt that

requires a key on both sides after she got out 2 days early in the AM before we

knew she was up-once she was out in the snow almost naked. We have spring rods

holding her windows shut because at 7AM one morning I found her and our almost 2

years old at the time reaching out the window to get the blanket that was stuck

on the roof because she opened the locks and baby locks and threw everything

from her room out the window-toys, sheets and all. So, I know what you are

dealing with. A month or so ago we went to a local ARC event which was a

luncheon and style show featuring people with disabilities. We sat at an

assigned table with the most wonderful family. Their son, , has downs and

he is 36. He sat next to me. Honestly with Myah being only 6 I do no yet know

exactly how to act around an adult with disabilities-just the truth. Let me tell

you that this guy was absolutely awesome. I had the best time talking to him and

kidding with him. He was truely a joy to have lunch with and I would actually

like to contact the family and plan another time out. Anyway, his mother is a

teacher and his father is a pastor. Because we were the ambassador family for

our county, everyone knows Myah, so they were asking a bunch of questions about

Myah and I was filling them in about the recent meds and the difference it

made-we can actually go somewhere! I said that I knew it was a little

controversial, but that it worked for us. They looked at each other and laughed

and said, well was on it at 3! lol They said he took the meds until he was

15 and then he calmed right down. As we were going through our search for

answers we had people tell us that when Myah was 6, her behavior would improve,

so we thought we could just tough it out, but 15 is a long time. The truth is

that each person is different, but I do think there is an end somewhere.

was not hyperactive or impulsive or inappropriate by any means. He was very well

adjusted and knew just about everyone in the room including the local radio host

that was hosting the event. Just a little hope you for. Hang in there.

, mom to Myah 6 DS, Shianne 2.5 and baby due in 6 weeks.

Re: Just wondering

Heidi,

I just know you will get all kinds of good advice from this group from people

who care, but I just want you to know that you are not alone.

My daughter does not have thyroid or add/adhd problems (yet), but I have sure

gone through the feeling of wondering what can happen next. She has been an

escape artist - she got lost from me on vacation recently - like I had to find a

policeman to help locate her, in a place where most everyone spoke French. Then,

while I napped on our couch (I know, what was I thinking, taking a nap? I was

just so tired) She went out the back door, out the gate from the backyard, and

into our van, parked in the driveway. My sons and I found her, maybe 15-30

minutes later, in the van crying, and it was hot. God knows what could have

happened if we hadn't found her. The next week she went in the basement with me

to put laundry away, except that she made a stop in the bathroom, turned on a

faucet, and flooded the bathroom, I found out hours later. I started thinking I

should give her away before I let her do real harm to herself.

You don't say how old ph is, but I have a son who is now 23, and acts like

a polite young man. He was a hyperactive troublesome kid for most of his young

years though, I often can't believe he is as well-mannered as he is now. So, I

do have some proof that the wild impulsive behavior Joe is showing you can be

curbed as he ages.

Take care, Patty

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Hi Heidi,

I can relate to the broken windows. broke several last summer

- including one that caused him to have injuries. Like you, I know

that the unstructured summer time is a major issue and behaviors will

peak in August. In all honestly I believe that that with time, my son

will be a wonderful gentleman. We are getting there - slowly. I see

that Joe is on alot of meds. So is my son. Metadate is given for his

ADHD. That was our wonder drug - he can still be impulsive, but it's

been wonderful (didn't help with the windows- that is an OCD thing

with my son). He's on lexapro now. He's still OCDish with blinds.

We moved - so instead of windows, it's the three sliding glass doors

in the rear. In the morning, light streams in the front of the house

- and my large living room windows do not open up. He'll open and

shut the blinds though. 's bedroom window also has a wire mesh

screen (can easily be pushed out in case of fire) that he knows he

can't open/shut. The screen was already on there when we bought the

house - we live on a golf course and that side of the house is known

for getting hit.

We thought the sleep issues would never be part of 's list of

issues. It slowly crept up on us. Trazadone is a wonderful drug! I

have to remind dad that he gets it right before bed and not at 6:00

when he gets his other meds (he also is on seizure meds).

It takes a long time to figure out which medications work. Do seek a

second opinion if you feel the need to.

Is Joe happy? For a year, the only time that I saw smile was

right before he drifted off to sleep. We also put him in a

self-contained program (he is happy there - he'd be better off if

there were fewer kids, too).

As for yourself, if you are feeling depressed, get some help for

yourself. As for Joe, remember it's not him, but how he is wired and

he is so dependent on you to figure him out. You can't do it alone -

you need supportive help. Do praise him every chance you get - and

never talk about his negative behavior in front of him.

On the bright side, my son has made major progress in the last few

years. He is now an uncle and he is so tender with his niece. We now

take him out in public more(he's more comfortable) - but we wish he

could learn to be patient with us - b/c when he is ready to leave, we

better leave. I have many materials to make visual schedules - but I

am waiting for the school to loan me boardmaker. I know this will

help. I bought a job chart thingy at a teacher store.

As for wondering behaviors - the first night we had our alarm system

in place, it went off at 5:00 am. My son had gotten up again, got

dressed, packed his lunch and was out the door. He successfully did

that the week before and I had to call the school to see if he was

there. This time, the alarm woke us up. He had 2 1/2 hours before

the bus came. Who knows what he would have done if it weren't for the

alarm?

Hang in there. You certainly are not alone.

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Hey Carol,

I am on the same fence, having been implanted in 2000 with the

Cochlear Platinum. Super results for me but the main deterrent is

another surgery. It just isnt something I want to go through again

without GREAT incentive.

However, I don't think it will be a question of some radically new

technology that can't replace the CI's ~ since the current implants

dont destroy a large amount of tissue or nerves being implanted and

then explanted, or so I was told a few years back. So we could

still, presumably anyway, get almost full benefit from some later

developments or new approaches. And that also presumes that the

future technology relies on the same nerve endings as the current

CI's. For me, it is the idea of another general surgery mostly, and

of course having to maintain two CI's. I am very outdoor oriented and

have trashed a few units already. Seems like twice the expense and

risk for less than twice the benefit... or so goes the view from my

fence.

Anyone else have a commment or advice from personal experience?

Terry

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,

Any such advancements in medical technology are years away. As is

always said, today is the day, for tomorrow may never come.

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Hello

My take on it is, live for TODAY. If anything major in the line of

C.I.'s was in the offing, in the next 10 years, it would have

probably been leaked. I think the only major advances in the

forseeable future, will be in software updates. Why deprive ones self

of two C.I.'s if one has the chance to get them. Not everybody has

that option. Its like sitting around waiting for a cure for cancer,

even if they find one that they reckon is very good, clinical trials

will take years, before they are allowed to use it on a worldwide

scale.

Ted F.

>

> I have been thinking of this a lot and now would like some feed

back.. I was considering getting implanted on my other ear also.. BUT

asking around a few people told me to wait.. What if down the roan

medical technology comes out with something unbelievable BUT you

cannot have had a implant to qualify.. And why would you want to have

both ears if one works fine.... Thinking this over I have to agree

with the comments I have received... Why do people have both ears

done??? Some day they may invent something that can be worn

internally instead of having wires and hooks hanging on the

outside... I can dream... Any feedback on this .....

> Thanks

> Have a great weekend...

>

> Implanted 1-2007

>

>

[Guest guest]

Yes that is true... But the clinical trials maybe worth looking into and waiting

maybe???

Well I do not know if I am up to going thru that adventure one more time.. I

had a really bad 3 months of not good things when I was implanted the first

time.. So I was just asking for others thoughts on getting 2.. Many thanks for

giving it,,, Take care

" Ted F. " <ted.fletcher@...> wrote:

Hello

My take on it is, live for TODAY. If anything major in the line of

C.I.'s was in the offing, in the next 10 years, it would have

probably been leaked. I think the only major advances in the

forseeable future, will be in software updates. Why deprive ones self

of two C.I.'s if one has the chance to get them. Not everybody has

that option. Its like sitting around waiting for a cure for cancer,

even if they find one that they reckon is very good, clinical trials

will take years, before they are allowed to use it on a worldwide

scale.

Ted F.

>

> I have been thinking of this a lot and now would like some feed

back.. I was considering getting implanted on my other ear also.. BUT

asking around a few people told me to wait.. What if down the roan

medical technology comes out with something unbelievable BUT you

cannot have had a implant to qualify.. And why would you want to have

both ears if one works fine.... Thinking this over I have to agree

with the comments I have received... Why do people have both ears

done??? Some day they may invent something that can be worn

internally instead of having wires and hooks hanging on the

outside... I can dream... Any feedback on this .....

> Thanks

> Have a great weekend...

>

> Implanted 1-2007

>

>

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While I understand your apprehension, I have to say I agree with Ted - why

wait for what might not come during your liftime?

Kat

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From: LINDA nnjl97@...

Date: Mon, 31 Mar 2008 06:37:55 -0700 (PDT)

Subject: Re: Re: Just wondering

Yes that is true... But the clinical trials maybe worth looking into and

waiting maybe???

Well I do not know if I am up to going thru that adventure one more

time.. I had a really bad 3 months of not good things when I was implanted

the first time.. So I was just asking for others thoughts on getting 2..

Many thanks for giving it,,, Take care

" Ted F. " <ted.fletcher@...> wrote:

Hello

My take on it is, live for TODAY. If anything major in the line of

C.I.'s was in the offing, in the next 10 years, it would have

probably been leaked. I think the only major advances in the

forseeable future, will be in software updates. Why deprive ones self

of two C.I.'s if one has the chance to get them. Not everybody has

that option. Its like sitting around waiting for a cure for cancer,

even if they find one that they reckon is very good, clinical trials

will take years, before they are allowed to use it on a worldwide

scale.

Ted F.

>

> I have been thinking of this a lot and now would like some feed

back.. I was considering getting implanted on my other ear also.. BUT

asking around a few people told me to wait.. What if down the roan

medical technology comes out with something unbelievable BUT you

cannot have had a implant to qualify.. And why would you want to have

both ears if one works fine.... Thinking this over I have to agree

with the comments I have received... Why do people have both ears

done??? Some day they may invent something that can be worn

internally instead of having wires and hooks hanging on the

outside... I can dream... Any feedback on this .....

> Thanks

> Have a great weekend...

>

> Implanted 1-2007

>

>

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Jeannie,

In times of extreme pain I have had this happen. I have had back & neck

disorders & chronic pain for years. My boyfriend also has back and other

health problems and has experienced this. It is like a quick flush. We

do not register a raised temperature either when it happens. I have also

spoken with doctors about this, most don't have an answer and a couple

have said it can't happen. Guess we are lucky since we seem to be

medical mysteries. Keep taking Tylenol if it helps. Sorry I can't give

you an answer. I hope someone can I would love to know why and how this

happens.

JaneH

>

> Hi all

> I've been disabled with my back and neck problems for over 5 years

now, and at least twice a week, I start getting very hot and start

perspiring, then I get chills, and it will go on for hours until I use

Tylenol, and that will usually help. But-I never have a fever, my

thermometer just reads the usual 98.6. If my husband touches me, he can

feel how hot my skin is, and his body will do the same thing, only it's

not the same time it happens with me. I asked my pain dr., he thought I

was in menopause, not possible as I had a hystersectomy when I was 23

and have been taking estrogen for 30 years. Then he thought I might be

getting a virus. I think he's clueless, as why would this be happening

so frequently, and it happens with my husband too, he has problems with

his legs and circulation.

> I was wondering if anyone has this happen to them, and what it could

be, and why it happens so much? I had asked my primary care dr. about it

a couple years ago, she didn't know either. Does this happen to anyone

else in the group, and what is it? We're not having fun going back and

forth th the thermostat raising and lowering the temperature!

> Thanks for any help

> Jeannie

>

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Bipley,

Well said. For many years people who have had stomach cancer and had part of the stomach removed have had excellent results with this surgery. This wasn't surgery for weight loss for them, but surgery to survive cancer. They eat just like we do, small amounts of healthy food, chewing and more chewing and they seem to be living life just like any other person and live a long and happy life. So I happen to agree with Bipley this is the NEW weight loss surgery that makes the most sense to me right now. Things will always be changing and one day they may find something that is much better than the sleeve, but for me I am putting my life in the hands of Dr. A & staff and my choice to have the sleeve.

Suzanne

In a message dated 9/20/2009 6:48:53 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, Bipley@... writes:

The sleeve is actually older than the adjustable band. They have been doing a sleeve for a long time as a two part procedure for bypass and DS. Medicine has also been doing partial and full gastrectomies for much longer for other stomach conditions. We DO know the long term effects of a smaller stomach. What we do not know are weight loss stats for a sleeve 20 years out. The sleeve is not new, WL stats are new.

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:25 PM, akitresssmith <akitresssmith > wrote:

I been reading several site and boards which talks about the lap band not being a permanent weight loss surgery, people are saying that 10-20 yrs fom now,we dont know what the band will do.. But as i was reading neithr do we know what the sleeve will do. I know the vsg is a newer weight loss procedure,so how will we know what it will do to us and our body 20 yrs from now. From reading the post on this board i have not seen one person yet that has had the sleeve over 3 years. My BIG questions is why are people thinking the sleeve is much better than the band? Done get me wrong i love the pros of the sleeve but i mean really we should be thinking about our future here..Please respond back everyone

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Hi Marie,

You touched on sooooooooooo many of the important things. This is a tool and it is our tool to use how we want. I think that it has taught all of us better and healthy ways to eat. We like where we are now, and will continue to use it FOREVER. None of us ever want to go back to where we were before we had the WLS. It takes effort, love and the desire to become a new and better person. And we got that from ourselves. No one can give it to us. It is great to have family and support, but ultimately we are the only ones who can make it work for us. It is an addiction and the WLS is our tool to learn to overcome the addiction.

You hear about people gaining weight back who have had the band and bypass. They can eat around what they have just like we can. I believe they may be able to stretch out the band pouch and bypass pouch, therefore gain the weight back or just eat all the wrong foods. It is harder to stretch out a sleeve and you don't want to overeat because it is painful. You can eat all the wrong things if you want, but that is the part that says this is my tool and how am I going to use this tool that I paid for with my $$$$$$$$$$. I had surgery on my stomach, but some ways it is connected to my brain and it allows me to make good and healthy choices for ME.

Suzanne

In a message dated 9/20/2009 7:18:41 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time, apanther97@... writes:

The one thing I do know is that the sleeve has changed my eating habits for the better, I also know that there is no taking the sleeve off and having that huge feed bag back that I used to call my stomach. Remember what ever tool you choose is just that a tool you have to be willing to do the had part and change your eating habbits and change your lifestyle. I KNOW I will be healthier in 20 years for having my sleeve done. Will I keep all of the 196 lbs I have lost so far off, I dont know but I bet you I will be doing my very best to ensure I never end up being the unhealthy person I was before my sleeve. By the way my sleeve was 18 mths ago and the scale still moves a little bit south each month.It is a lifestyle change not a miricale you have to be willing to do the work that goes with it! Hope that helps. Marie Kindness is the language the blind can see and the deaf can hear. - Mark Twain

I been reading several site and boards which talks about the lap band not being a permanent weight loss surgery, people are saying that 10-20 yrs fom now,we dont know what the band will do.. But as i was reading neithr do we know what the sleeve will do. I know the vsg is a newer weight loss procedure,so how will we know what it will do to us and our body 20 yrs from now. From reading the post on this board i have not seen one person yet that has had the sleeve over 3 years. My BIG questions is why are people thinking the sleeve is much better than the band? Done get me wrong i love the pros of the sleeve but i mean really we should be thinking about our future here..Please respond back everyone

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The sleeve is actually older than the adjustable band.  They have been doing a sleeve for a long time as a two part procedure for bypass and DS.  Medicine has also been doing partial and full gastrectomies for much longer for other stomach conditions.  We DO know the long term effects of a smaller stomach.  What we do not know are weight loss stats for a sleeve 20 years out.  The sleeve is not new, WL stats are new.

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:25 PM, akitresssmith <akitresssmith@...> wrote:

 

I been reading several site and boards which talks about the lap band not being a permanent weight loss surgery, people are saying that 10-20 yrs fom now,we dont know what the band will do.. But as i was reading neithr do we know what the sleeve will do. I know the vsg is a newer weight loss procedure,so how will we know what it will do to us and our body 20 yrs from now. From reading the post on this board i have not seen one person yet that has had the sleeve over 3 years. My BIG questions is why are people thinking the sleeve is much better than the band?

Done get me wrong i love the pros of the sleeve but i mean really we should be thinking about our future here..

Please respond back everyone

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The one thing I do know is that the sleeve has changed my eating habits for the better, I also know that there is no taking the sleeve off and having that huge feed bag back that I used to call my stomach. Remember what ever tool you choose is just that a tool you have to be willing to do the had part and change your eating habbits and change your lifestyle. I KNOW I will be healthier in 20 years for having my sleeve done. Will I keep all of the 196 lbs I have lost so far off, I dont know but I bet you I will be doing my very best to ensure I never end up being the unhealthy person I was before my sleeve. By the way my sleeve was 18 mths ago and the scale still moves a little bit south each month.It is a lifestyle change not a miricale you have to be willing to do the work that goes with it! Hope that helps. Marie Kindness is the language the blind can see and the deaf can hear. - Mark Twain

I been reading several site and boards which talks about the lap band not being a permanent weight loss surgery, people are saying that 10-20 yrs fom now,we dont know what the band will do.. But as i was reading neithr do we know what the sleeve will do. I know the vsg is a newer weight loss procedure,so how will we know what it will do to us and our body 20 yrs from now. From reading the post on this board i have not seen one person yet that has had the sleeve over 3 years. My BIG questions is why are people thinking the sleeve is much better than the band? Done get me wrong i love the pros of the sleeve but i mean really we should be thinking about our future here..Please respond back everyone

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Bipley, how much was it when you switched to thesleeve? I am thinking I may need to do that in the near future as I am having issues with my band after about 2+ years. Do you have to re-qualify? I have maintained my weightloss now for awhile. I really dont need to lose anymore, coould stand to lose maybe 10 more but not too concerned. Did you lose when you switched? I just dont want to re-gain what I have lost. How did the surgeries compare? Which was more painful and how about the recovery time?

Thanks for the info, I used to post back when you first got banded. You have been very helpful.

Deborah

Re: Just wondering

The sleeve is actually older than the adjustable band. They have been doing a sleeve for a long time as a two part procedure for bypass and DS. Medicine has also been doing partial and full gastrectomies for much longer for other stomach conditions. We DO know the long term effects of a smaller stomach. What we do not know are weight loss stats for a sleeve 20 years out. The sleeve is not new, WL stats are new.

On Sat, Sep 19, 2009 at 9:25 PM, akitresssmith <akitresssmith > wrote:

I been reading several site and boards which talks about the lap band not being a permanent weight loss surgery, people are saying that 10-20 yrs fom now,we dont know what the band will do.. But as i was reading neithr do we know what the sleeve will do. I know the vsg is a newer weight loss procedure,so how will we know what it will do to us and our body 20 yrs from now. From reading the post on this board i have not seen one person yet that has had the sleeve over 3 years. My BIG questions is why are people thinking the sleeve is much better than the band?

Done get me wrong i love the pros of the sleeve but i mean really we should be thinking about our future here..

Please respond back everyone

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My son has taken a long time to potty train. We had enormous problems with pooping (ie, him refusing to and holding it in as long as possible), which we just overcame about 4 months ago (he just turned 4). Now he poops every single night in his potty and puts a sticker on the "poopy calendar" I made him. He JUST started wearing underwear on his 4th birthday. He was very happy to pee in a diaper for a looooooong time. It took a lot of talking & explaining about the benefits of not having to wear diapers anymore. He told me right before his birthday that when he turned 4 he was going to start wearing underwear all the time, and he has. At bedtime, though, I still put him in a regular diaper. He cannot possibly hold his pee all night yet, although sometimes he wakes up dry. I expect he'll be wearing a

night-time diaper for at least several more months, if not longer. Anyway, I hope this gives you hope. For my son, it had to be "his idea" and he had to feel in control of it. I never pressured him to potty train.

My son also does the asking incessant questions all day long every day, and frequently repeats the same question. After I answer the same question 3 times, I tell him that he already knows the answer to that question and Mommy's not going to answer it again.

Hope that helps you.

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thanks that does help a lot zack has been wearing underwear for about a year and

a half now he pees just fine in the potty its pooping we have a problem with i

dont know if he just dosnt think about it or what and its nice to know that

there are other as kids who repet questions over and over

>

> My son has taken a long time to potty train.  We had enormous problems with

pooping (ie, him refusing to and holding it in as long as possible), which we

just overcame about 4 months ago (he just turned 4).  Now he poops every single

night in his potty and puts a sticker on the " poopy calendar " I made him.  He

JUST started wearing underwear on his 4th birthday.  He was very happy to pee in

a diaper for a looooooong time.  It took a lot of talking & explaining about the

benefits of not having to wear diapers anymore.  He told me right before his

birthday that when he turned 4 he was going to start wearing underwear all the

time, and he has.  At bedtime, though, I still put him in a regular diaper.  He

cannot possibly hold his pee all night yet, although sometimes he wakes up dry. 

I expect he'll be wearing a night-time diaper for at least several more months,

if not longer.  Anyway, I hope this gives you hope.  For my son, it had to be

" his

> idea " and he had to feel in control of it.  I never pressured him to potty

train. 

> My son also does the asking incessant questions all day long every day, and

frequently repeats the same question.  After I answer the same question 3 times,

I tell him that he already knows the answer to that question and Mommy's not

going to answer it again.

> Hope that helps you.

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Oh, and my son was constantly asking questions...why this and why that and it never stopped. I used to ask ...when will this stop....and guess what it hasn't. LOL and he is 14. It because they want to know...to know why things work the way they work ...my boss at the time, a lic. psychologist, said it is a sign of intelligence. Hmmm! Not so sure...but at least it is a sign that they need to know how things work ...or why they work...curiousity...they just don't take the standard..."because that is the way it is" ...they want to know more ...why is that the way it is. Once I realized this...I never minded his contant questioning everything...

Jan

"In the Midst of Difficulty lies Opportunity" Albert Einstein

Success is not measured by one's position but by the obstacles one has overcome to obtain that position

From: candacelbaine <candacelbaine@...> Sent: Tue, July 13, 2010 10:30:23 PMSubject: ( ) Re: just wondering

thanks that does help a lot zack has been wearing underwear for about a year and a half now he pees just fine in the potty its pooping we have a problem with i dont know if he just dosnt think about it or what and its nice to know that there are other as kids who repet questions over and over>> My son has taken a long time to potty train. We had enormous problems with pooping (ie, him refusing to and holding it in as long as possible), which we just overcame about 4 months ago (he just turned 4). Now he poops every single night in his potty and puts a sticker on the "poopy calendar" I made him. He JUST started wearing underwear on his 4th birthday. He was very happy to pee in a diaper for a

looooooong time. It took a lot of talking & explaining about the benefits of not having to wear diapers anymore. He told me right before his birthday that when he turned 4 he was going to start wearing underwear all the time, and he has. At bedtime, though, I still put him in a regular diaper. He cannot possibly hold his pee all night yet, although sometimes he wakes up dry. I expect he'll be wearing a night-time diaper for at least several more months, if not longer. Anyway, I hope this gives you hope. For my son, it had to be "his> idea" and he had to feel in control of it. I never pressured him to potty train. > My son also does the asking incessant questions all day long every day, and frequently repeats the same question. After I answer the same question 3 times, I tell him that he already knows the answer to that question and Mommy's not going to answer it again.

> Hope that helps you. > -- >