Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 when he was autopsied they found that his arteries were occluded with cholesterol plaques and he had many of the signs of hyperlipidemia- like fatty liver. so if if he didn't have head trauma as you said then he would have died from a MI. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 his diet also advocated eating more protein than it is recommended and many people who followed his diet ended up with acute renal failure. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 You don't know that. You are making an assumption, unless you have the inside track with the one above. Roni Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: when he was autopsied they found that his arteries were occluded with cholesterol plaques and he had many of the signs of hyperlipidemia- like fatty liver. so if if he didn't have head trauma as you said then he would have died from a MI. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I do- a professor of mine knew him and thus knows the results of the autopsy. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 People who are diabetic, and on drugs for this condition, as well as hypertension drugs, (which many of them are on) end up with acut renal failure from the fact that some of those drugs destroy the kidneys. One of them was my husband. Roni Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: his diet also advocated eating more protein than it is recommended and many people who followed his diet ended up with acute renal failure. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 The point I was making is that he didn't die of a heart attack because of his diet, he died of complications from his head injury. How does your friend become privy to the autopsy report, just because he knew him? Roni Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: I do- a professor of mine knew him and thus knows the results of the autopsy. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 they were friends for many years and thus knows the family. and the medical examiner. since it was a traumatic injury they have to have a autopsy. my point was that if he didn't die of the head injury he would have died form the hyperlipidemia. they talked about at a medical conference I went to after his death. it was the " big scandal " sarcastic grin. my old professor was speaking at pri-med and he talked about it. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 yes it can happen, so can eating too much protein. because the protein molecules are very big and the stress out the kidney cells as they are eliminated from the organ. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I am willing to agree that if you do anything too much it is probably not good for you, But I certainly couldn't agree that I would ever be happy someone had hyperlipidemia because he subscribed to an idea in which I didn't believe. Roni Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: yes it can happen, so can eating too much protein. because the protein molecules are very big and the stress out the kidney cells as they are eliminated from the organ. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 why would you be happy? why would I be happy? I don't get what you are saying. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 DUsty, what thyroid meds are you taking? You need to eat high fiber diet for cholesterol. Every time you eat some meat you should be eating high fiber. This helps pull the meat through and block the absorption of the bad stuff. Eating eggs are fine as this is a good fat. ALso, you should be using coconut oil in place of ALL other's for cooking. Olive oil is good at low temps. Those also are good fats. It really is the good fats and high fibers that you should be seeking. -- Re: Re: cholesterol Just like the statement statins are good for you, fat is bad for is also wrong. Dr. Atkins died after he fell on the ice and injured his head. If fat is bad for you and raises your cholesterol, I challenge you to eliminate carbohydrates from your diet except for vegetables (no potatoes, peas ,beets or corn either) and fruits like berries, watermelon, cantaloupe. That means no bread, corn chips or popped corn, potato chips, cereal and anything else that says carbohydrate. Choose lean meat (you don't have to go nuts), fish, poultry, nuts, eggs, cheese, cream (no milk), no caffeine, salad, (limited tomatoes) veggies, butter, olives, oil. Do this for four weeks and have your cholesterol and lipids checked and tell us what you see. Also, you will be losing weight, so I hope you are not skinny to start. Roni Nancie Barnett <deifspiritmsn (DOT) <mailto:deifspirit%40msn.com> com> wrote: dr. atkins was not advocating only good fats- he was advocating eating bacon, sausage and red meat which has tons of cholesterol. also he advocated eating fatty cheeses and unlimited amounts of eggs which also have cholesterol. he in fact DIED of high cholesterol's effects on the body. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 In one of your posts you stated you had a sarcastic smile when you heard about his hyperlipedemia. Roni Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: why would you be happy? why would I be happy? I don't get what you are saying. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Or a plane wreck, car crash, robbery gone bad, stroke, cancer............... ....... -- Re: Re: cholesterol when he was autopsied they found that his arteries were occluded with cholesterol plaques and he had many of the signs of hyperlipidemia- like fatty liver. so if if he didn't have head trauma as you said then he would have died from a MI. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 you didn't see his organs- they were covered in fatty deposits. my professor stated. he was apparently an heart attack waiting to happen and his kidneys were starting to go as well. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I've never understood how a drug that is " derived " from a plant can cause so many side effects, like headache, constipation, dry mouth, death (I could go on and on). It just seems like you get more problems than you had before when you take these new drugs. -- Re: Re: cholesterol People who are diabetic, and on drugs for this condition, as well as hypertension drugs, (which many of them are on) end up with acut renal failure from the fact that some of those drugs destroy the kidneys. One of them was my husband. Roni Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@...> wrote: his diet also advocated eating more protein than it is recommended and many people who followed his diet ended up with acute renal failure. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 no what I said was that at the medical conference I went too the news was like a " scandal " - many medical professionals have very dark humor and that is what happened. I didn't say I thought it was funny. this list group doesn't allow my emoticons to go through so I was typing it out. oh well. that is problem with email the true intent never comes through. Re: Re: cholesterol sorry I meant Schwarzbein Gracia hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. Gracia Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some medicines. Dusty Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I don't believe there was an autopsy... > > Re: cholesterol > <hypothyroidism/message/32529;_ylc=X3oDMTJxb21qZWh\ lBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzI1MjkEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NTAwMDAxMw--> > > > > Posted by: " Nancie Barnett " deifspirit@... > <mailto:deifspirit@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20cholesterol> > aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1> > > > Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:04 pm (PST) > > when he was autopsied they found that his arteries were occluded with > cholesterol plaques and he had many of the signs of hyperlipidemia- > like fatty liver. so if if he didn't have head trauma as you said then > he would have died from a MI. > Re: Re: cholesterol > > By the way, I forgot to include alcoholic beverages, ice cream, > yogurt, sugar (of cours), > any kind of syrup in my list of don't eat. > > Roni > > Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@... > <mailto:deifspirit%40msn.com><mailto:deifspirit@... > <mailto:deifspirit%40msn.com>>> wrote: > dr. atkins was not advocating only good fats- he was advocating eating > bacon, sausage and red meat which has tons of cholesterol. also he > advocated eating fatty cheeses and unlimited amounts of eggs which > also have cholesterol. > he in fact DIED of high cholesterol' > s effects on the body. > ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 According to Snopes there was no autopsy. For some reason I cannot copy the quote, but it's on this page near the bottom: http://www.snopes.com/medical/doctor/atkins.asp It's in the fourth paragraph from the bottom, and specifically states that no autopsy was performed. > > Re: cholesterol > <hypothyroidism/message/32539;_ylc=X3oDMTJxMXZmbjl\ yBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzI1MzkEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NTAwMDAxMw--> > > > > Posted by: " Nancie Barnett " deifspirit@... > <mailto:deifspirit@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20cholesterol> > aspenfairy1 <aspenfairy1> > > > Tue Nov 13, 2007 4:25 pm (PST) > > they were friends for many years and thus knows the family. and the > medical examiner. since it was a traumatic injury they have to have a > autopsy. > my point was that if he didn't die of the head injury he would have > died form the hyperlipidemia. they talked about at a medical > conference I went to after his death. it was the " big scandal " > sarcastic grin. my old professor was speaking at pri-med and he talked > about it. > Re: Re: cholesterol > > The point I was making is that he didn't die of a heart attack because > of his diet, > he died of complications from his head injury. How does your friend > become privy to > the autopsy report, just because he knew him? > > Roni > > Nancie Barnett <deifspirit@... > <mailto:deifspirit%40msn.com><mailto:deifspirit@... > <mailto:deifspirit%40msn.com>>> wrote: > I do- a professor of mine knew him and thus knows the results of the > autopsy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Why not? You are aware that many plants are poisonous, right? > > Re: cholesterol > <hypothyroidism/message/32548;_ylc=X3oDMTJxaGlkbHB\ mBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzI1NDgEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NTAxNTk5Mw--> > > > > Posted by: " Crystal " sweetnwright@... > <mailto:sweetnwright@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20cholesterol> > sweetenloe1 <sweetenloe1> > > > Tue Nov 13, 2007 5:04 pm (PST) > > I've never understood how a drug that is " derived " from a plant can > cause so > many side effects, like headache, constipation, dry mouth, death (I > could go > on and on). It just seems like you get more problems than you had before > when you take these new drugs. > > -- Re: Re: cholesterol > > People who are diabetic, and on drugs for this condition, as well as > hypertension > drugs, (which many of them are on) end up with acut renal failure from the > fact that > some of those drugs destroy the kidneys. One of them was my husband. > > Roni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I live in Maine. The old crusty Mainers eat and used to eat protein morning, noon and night. They were really healthy and some of the funniest ppl I have ever met. I have an old cook book I think it is called Maineways with some history in it. So interesting--I think the average Mainer used to eat 6,000 calories a day. milk, cream, lard, butter with everything. Gracia his diet also advocated eating more protein than it is recommended and many people who followed his diet ended up with acute renal failure. ----- Recent Activity a.. 17New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 Yes, and I wouldn't eat THEM either ! -- Re: Re: cholesterol > > People who are diabetic, and on drugs for this condition, as well as > hypertension > drugs, (which many of them are on) end up with acut renal failure from the > fact that > some of those drugs destroy the kidneys. One of them was my husband. > > Roni Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 and I wonder if we autopsied them how many would show lots of fatty deposits in their arteries..... Re: Re: cholesterol I live in Maine. The old crusty Mainers eat and used to eat protein morning, noon and night. They were really healthy and some of the funniest ppl I have ever met. I have an old cook book I think it is called Maineways with some history in it. So interesting--I think the average Mainer used to eat 6,000 calories a day. milk, cream, lard, butter with everything. Gracia his diet also advocated eating more protein than it is recommended and many people who followed his diet ended up with acute renal failure. ----- Recent Activity a.. 17New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. A family Group to share and learn about healthy eating. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 I eat this way! no actually I don't eat too many eggs. Gracia dr. atkins was not advocating only good fats- he was advocating eating bacon, sausage and red meat which has tons of cholesterol. also he advocated eating fatty cheeses and unlimited amounts of eggs which also have cholesterol. he in fact DIED of high cholesterol's effects on the body. Recent Activity a.. 14New Members Visit Your Group Get cancer support Connect w/ others find help & share Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. Healthy Eating Find that are focused on healthy eating. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 don't know. one of my old neighbors died when his dumptruck ran over him. another one had a stroke. one had cancer. they all worked hard until they died. Gracia and I wonder if we autopsied them how many would show lots of fatty deposits in their arteries..... Recent Activity a.. 17New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Healthy Eating on A place for parents to share their ideas. Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 one had a stroke... do you know what can cause a stroke? fatty deposits that harden in the arteries that causes blockages which prevents the blood from getting to the brain.... Re: Re: cholesterol don't know. one of my old neighbors died when his dumptruck ran over him. another one had a stroke. one had cancer. they all worked hard until they died. Gracia and I wonder if we autopsied them how many would show lots of fatty deposits in their arteries..... Recent Activity a.. 17New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Healthy Eating on A place for parents to share their ideas. Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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