Guest guest Posted November 13, 2007 Report Share Posted November 13, 2007 you must have great genetics after all it all comes down to your genetics some people can process all that bad fats away and remain healthy- maybe it is your iodine or maybe it is the natural thyroid you take... Re: Re: cholesterol I eat this way! no actually I don't eat too many eggs. Gracia dr. atkins was not advocating only good fats- he was advocating eating bacon, sausage and red meat which has tons of cholesterol. also he advocated eating fatty cheeses and unlimited amounts of eggs which also have cholesterol. he in fact DIED of high cholesterol's effects on the body. Recent Activity a.. 14New Members Visit Your Group Get cancer support Connect w/ others find help & share Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. Healthy Eating Find that are focused on healthy eating. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Quite a few I would imagine. Roni Gracia <circe@...> wrote: don't know. one of my old neighbors died when his dumptruck ran over him. another one had a stroke. one had cancer. they all worked hard until they died. Gracia and I wonder if we autopsied them how many would show lots of fatty deposits in their arteries..... Recent Activity a.. 17New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Healthy Eating on A place for parents to share their ideas. Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I think it is everybody's responsibility to do some research, on both sides medical and natural, and come up with what works for them. If one person for some reason does well on two pounds of sugar a day, it doesn't mean someone with diabetes will do well. Find what works for you and stick to it. Roni Gracia <circe@...> wrote: I eat this way! no actually I don't eat too many eggs. Gracia dr. atkins was not advocating only good fats- he was advocating eating bacon, sausage and red meat which has tons of cholesterol. also he advocated eating fatty cheeses and unlimited amounts of eggs which also have cholesterol. he in fact DIED of high cholesterol's effects on the body. Recent Activity a.. 14New Members Visit Your Group Get cancer support Connect w/ others find help & share Health Looking for Love? Find relationship advice and answers. Healthy Eating Find that are focused on healthy eating. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 get thee some iodine. http://www.helpmythyroid.com Gracia OMG, I'm ROFL. This is my diet now and I'm morbidly obese with high lipids. I live the diet you are suggesting and I can tell you as a gal who inherited an extremely strong family history for bad lipids, it ain't working for me!!!!! Recent Activity a.. 16New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Support Groups on Find answers, connect with others. Healthy Eating A Group for families on how to eat healthy. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 happy b-day deborah my son's b-day is 11/13. gracia who is holding mdog and can't type too well. seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk Not quite true I'm skinny as a rail , and eat well and I have high numbers ,exercise daily and walk 12 miles a day,lift weights etc ,but I do agree that ppl that are HypO have high numbers or numbers out of range I DONOT eat a high fat Diet at all ,hummmm ??? (51 years old will be 52 this month ) Deborah Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. Healthy Eating A resource for families on how to eat healthy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 oh dear! and he was the skinniest of the lot! Gracia one had a stroke... do you know what can cause a stroke? fatty deposits that harden in the arteries that causes blockages which prevents the blood from getting to the brain.... Recent Activity a.. 17New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. FruitaBü Parents on teaching families how to eat healthy. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 Iodine affects genetic expression supposedly. I think we all have great genetics, just need a little help here and there to achieve homeostasis. Allopathic medicine doesn't look at the body this way. Gracia you must have great genetics after all it all comes down to your genetics some people can process all that bad fats away and remain healthy- maybe it is your iodine or maybe it is the natural thyroid you take... Recent Activity a.. 17New Members Visit Your Group Cancer Resources on Find answers, help and support. Healthy Eating Zone Encouraging families to eat healthy. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2007 Report Share Posted November 14, 2007 I never said obesity had to be a factor- it is a common factor but there are plenty of people who have elevated cholesterol and dyslipidemia and clogged arteries that are thin. they are the ones that are the hardest to convince that they need to cut back on those saturated fats. Re: Re: cholesterol oh dear! and he was the skinniest of the lot! Gracia one had a stroke... do you know what can cause a stroke? fatty deposits that harden in the arteries that causes blockages which prevents the blood from getting to the brain.... Recent Activity a.. 17New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. FruitaBü Parents on teaching families how to eat healthy. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 I just don't believe this, it's allopathic blather to me. hope to see my mother's autopsy report soon. Gracia I never said obesity had to be a factor- it is a common factor but there are plenty of people who have elevated cholesterol and dyslipidemia and clogged arteries that are thin. they are the ones that are the hardest to convince that they need to cut back on those saturated fats. Re: Re: cholesterol oh dear! and he was the skinniest of the lot! Gracia one had a stroke... do you know what can cause a stroke? fatty deposits that harden in the arteries that causes blockages which prevents the blood from getting to the brain.... Recent Activity a.. 17New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Health Fit for Life Getting fit is now easier than ever. FruitaBü Parents on teaching families how to eat healthy. . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 my Daughters is Nov 25 ,and my Daughter in Laws is Dec 5 all Sagtarians ,have alot of fun what a hoot (laughing ) hope your son has a great B-day also ,opps hope he had a great b-day.have to get labs done at the end of the Month ,will post results then , Got a Question what makes your eyes change really rapidly to worse in 6 -7 months ,Eye Doc says not looking to good ,jeepers. I think he is wrong,or messed up .I have no time to read messges anymore ,to darn busy , I wish we could make time stop for awhile and hold onto youth ,would that be great/fanastic .Hey! nice throught while it lasted ,I'm reading the Book called the " Secret " super ,super Book ,very intrestering ,got to get off my soap box now . Hugs to all.thanks for the Birthday wish Gracia ,hope all is well with you and everyone else ,you too Chuck . I have 2 small dogs also 3 pds and 5 pds ,my little heartbeats and 2 large tanks of Goldfish ( I swear these Fish talk to me ,ha !)I know my Dogs do ,well almost .have a good Day everyone Re: Re: cholesterol happy b-day deborah my son's b-day is 11/13. gracia who is holding mdog and can't type too well. seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk Not quite true I'm skinny as a rail , and eat well and I have high numbers ,exercise daily and walk 12 miles a day,lift weights etc ,but I do agree that ppl that are HypO have high numbers or numbers out of range I DONOT eat a high fat Diet at all ,hummmm ??? (51 years old will be 52 this month ) Deborah Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. Healthy Eating A resource for families on how to eat healthy . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 My mom lost her eyesight rapidly when she had a pituitary tumor. It was pressing against her optic nerve. -- Re: Re: cholesterol my Daughters is Nov 25 ,and my Daughter in Laws is Dec 5 all Sagtarians ,have alot of fun what a hoot (laughing ) hope your son has a great B-day also ,opps hope he had a great b-day.have to get labs done at the end of the Month ,will post results then , Got a Question what makes your eyes change really rapidly to worse in 6 -7 months ,Eye Doc says not looking to good ,jeepers. I think he is wrong,or messed up .I have no time to read messges anymore ,to darn busy , I wish we could make time stop for awhile and hold onto youth ,would that be great/fanastic .Hey! nice throught while it lasted ,I'm reading the Book called the " Secret " super ,super Book ,very intrestering ,got to get off my soap box now . Hugs to all.thanks for the Birthday wish Gracia ,hope all is well with you and everyone else ,you too Chuck . I have 2 small dogs also 3 pds and 5 pds ,my little heartbeats and 2 large tanks of Goldfish ( I swear these Fish talk to me ,ha !)I know my Dogs do ,well almost .have a good Day everyone Re: Re: cholesterol happy b-day deborah my son's b-day is 11/13. gracia who is holding mdog and can't type too well. seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk Not quite true I'm skinny as a rail , and eat well and I have high numbers ,exercise daily and walk 12 miles a day,lift weights etc ,but I do agree that ppl that are HypO have high numbers or numbers out of range I DONOT eat a high fat Diet at all ,hummmm ??? (51 years old will be 52 this month ) Deborah Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. Healthy Eating A resource for families on how to eat healthy .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 pituitary tumor What are the Symptoms ,do you know ? Do you mean she lost all of her eyesite if so I'm so sorry to hear that ,hope she is doing better Re: Re: cholesterol happy b-day deborah my son's b-day is 11/13. gracia who is holding mdog and can't type too well. seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk Not quite true I'm skinny as a rail , and eat well and I have high numbers ,exercise daily and walk 12 miles a day,lift weights etc ,but I do agree that ppl that are HypO have high numbers or numbers out of range I DONOT eat a high fat Diet at all ,hummmm ??? (51 years old will be 52 this month ) Deborah Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. Healthy Eating A resource for families on how to eat healthy .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Well she had all kinds of diagnosis' like depression, restless leg syndrome, glaucoma (that was the most stupid), asthma. What eventually led to her dx was she started lactating. God had His hand in that since I am the one who told the doc (we had the same one and I was in there w/1 if my kids) that her boobs were leaking I also told him that the eye doc he sent her to said she had glaucoma. My sis is an optometrist so we knew that was a lazy lie. She had a mammogram that came back negative. My sis knew that there must be a pituitary tumor. She had just had a class and talked about this. So she went in for a MRI and it was positive. By that time, she had less than 50% in each eye. It VERY quickly degenerated to the point that they sped up her surgery date. After surgery, she regained all of her eyesight. Praise GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! -- Re: Re: cholesterol pituitary tumor What are the Symptoms ,do you know ? Do you mean she lost all of her eyesite if so I'm so sorry to hear that ,hope she is doing better Re: Re: cholesterol happy b-day deborah my son's b-day is 11/13. gracia who is holding mdog and can't type too well. seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk Not quite true I'm skinny as a rail , and eat well and I have high numbers ,exercise daily and walk 12 miles a day,lift weights etc ,but I do agree that ppl that are HypO have high numbers or numbers out of range I DONOT eat a high fat Diet at all ,hummmm ??? (51 years old will be 52 this month ) Deborah Recent Activity a.. 13New Members Visit Your Group Having cancer is hard Finding help shouldn´t be. Health Live Better Longer Find new ways to stay healthy. Healthy Eating A resource for families on how to eat healthy .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 hollyberrys wrote: > > Got a Question what makes your eyes change really rapidly to worse in 6 -7 > months #1 diabetes #2 infection (uveitis) #3 various diseases of the eye #4 mechanical pressure on the eye, including severe hypertension Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 Before any of you think you have won the argument on cholesterol try looking at the message from the past: hypothyroidism/message/20217 Pat > dr. atkins was not advocating only good fats- he was advocating eating bacon, sausage and red meat which has tons of cholesterol. also he advocated eating fatty cheeses and unlimited amounts of eggs which also have cholesterol. > he in fact DIED of high cholesterol's effects on the body. > Re: Re: cholesterol > > sorry I meant Schwarzbein > Gracia > > hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. > Gracia > > Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused > by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The > prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of > excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and > drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk > factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some > medicines. > > Dusty > > Recent Activity > a.. 13New Members > Visit Your Group > Cancer Support > Groups on > > Find answers, > > connect with others. > > > A family Group > > to share and learn > > about healthy eating. > > Health > Fit for Life > > Getting fit is now > > easier than ever. > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2007 Report Share Posted November 15, 2007 old studies. Re: Re: cholesterol > > sorry I meant Schwarzbein > Gracia > > hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and blames the victim. > Gracia > > Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " caused > by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The > prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of > excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and > drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a risk > factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some > medicines. > > Dusty > > Recent Activity > a.. 13New Members > Visit Your Group > Cancer Support > Groups on > > Find answers, > > connect with others. > > > A family Group > > to share and learn > > about healthy eating. > > Health > Fit for Life > > Getting fit is now > > easier than ever. > . > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 diabetes and hypertension Hi Chuck, that is what it is then ,I have both ,jeppers bought new glasses 6- 7 months ago special lens etc,over $350 bucks now they have changed again ,worse them 6 months ago ,ahhhhh . Re: Re: cholesterol > hollyberrys wrote: >> >> Got a Question what makes your eyes change really rapidly to worse in 6 -7 >> months > > #1 diabetes > #2 infection (uveitis) > #3 various diseases of the eye > #4 mechanical pressure on the eye, including severe hypertension > > Chuck > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2007 Report Share Posted November 16, 2007 Well, that might put an end to this discussion. I think we have a lot of reading to do. VERY interesting. Glad I have put my doctor off regarding using statins on me! Venizia > > dr. atkins was not advocating only good fats- he was advocating > eating bacon, sausage and red meat which has tons of cholesterol. also > he advocated eating fatty cheeses and unlimited amounts of eggs which > also have cholesterol. > > he in fact DIED of high cholesterol's effects on the body. > > Re: Re: cholesterol > > > > sorry I meant Schwarzbein > > Gracia > > > > hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the > book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good > fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle > by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and > blames the victim. > > Gracia > > > > Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " > caused > > by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The > > prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of > > excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and > > drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a > risk > > factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some > > medicines. > > > > Dusty > > > > Recent Activity > > a.. 13New Members > > Visit Your Group > > Cancer Support > > Groups on > > > > Find answers, > > > > connect with others. > > > > > > A family Group > > > > to share and learn > > > > about healthy eating. > > > > Health > > Fit for Life > > > > Getting fit is now > > > > easier than ever. > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2007 Report Share Posted November 17, 2007 So would you elaborate on that statement. Old studies means we disregard them? I get nothing from your statement. Were they proven wrong? Venizia > > dr. atkins was not advocating only good fats- he was advocating > eating bacon, sausage and red meat which has tons of cholesterol. also > he advocated eating fatty cheeses and unlimited amounts of eggs which > also have cholesterol. > > he in fact DIED of high cholesterol's effects on the body. > > Re: Re: cholesterol > > > > sorry I meant Schwarzbein > > Gracia > > > > hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the > book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good > fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle > by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and > blames the victim. > > Gracia > > > > Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " > caused > > by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The > > prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of > > excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and > > drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a > risk > > factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some > > medicines. > > > > Dusty > > > > Recent Activity > > a.. 13New Members > > Visit Your Group > > Cancer Support > > Groups on > > > > Find answers, > > > > connect with others. > > > > > > A family Group > > > > to share and learn > > > > about healthy eating. > > > > Health > > Fit for Life > > > > Getting fit is now > > > > easier than ever. > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 janie has shut down this topic. Re: Re: cholesterol > > > > sorry I meant Schwarzbein > > Gracia > > > > hypothyroidism used to be Dxed by high cholesterol levels. read the > book Hypothyroidism: the Unsuspected Illness by Broda MD. good > fats are perfectly OK, as Dr. Atkins told us. also Swarzbein Principle > by Swarzbein MD. Allopathic medicine just confuses the issue and > blames the victim. > > Gracia > > > > Is this really true? I don't believe that high lipids are " Usually " > caused > > by hypothyroid, though most literature says being hypo may cause it. The > > prevailing factors seem to be family history, high fat diet, lack of > > excercise, being overweight, age and sex (aging increasing lipids) and > > drinking to excess. Generally hypo is listed after all of these as a > risk > > factor, along with liver disease, kidney disease, diabetes and some > > medicines. > > > > Dusty > > > > Recent Activity > > a.. 13New Members > > Visit Your Group > > Cancer Support > > Groups on > > > > Find answers, > > > > connect with others. > > > > > > A family Group > > > > to share and learn > > > > about healthy eating. > > > > Health > > Fit for Life > > > > Getting fit is now > > > > easier than ever. > > . > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Nancie, You wrote: > > janie has shut down this topic. Please introduce us to Janie. Does she claim to be a list moderator? The only person to step forward for that role to my knowledge was Ira Fine. Also, when did Janie shut down this topic? I have not seen any posting to that effect, except this one. Finally, why? Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 oops- wrong group- got confused between thyroid groups, lol- sor nancie Re: Re: cholesterol Nancie, You wrote: > > janie has shut down this topic. Please introduce us to Janie. Does she claim to be a list moderator? The only person to step forward for that role to my knowledge was Ira Fine. Also, when did Janie shut down this topic? I have not seen any posting to that effect, except this one. Finally, why? Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Exactly, thank you Chuck. are you confused with the Natural Thyroid group? That's that only Janie I know. Venizia > > > > janie has shut down this topic. > > Please introduce us to Janie. Does she claim to be a list moderator? The > only person to step forward for that role to my knowledge was Ira Fine. > Also, when did Janie shut down this topic? I have not seen any posting > to that effect, except this one. Finally, why? > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 yep, lol nancie Re: cholesterol Exactly, thank you Chuck. are you confused with the Natural Thyroid group? That's that only Janie I know. Venizia > > > > janie has shut down this topic. > > Please introduce us to Janie. Does she claim to be a list moderator? The > only person to step forward for that role to my knowledge was Ira Fine. > Also, when did Janie shut down this topic? I have not seen any posting > to that effect, except this one. Finally, why? > > Chuck > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 Nancie, You wrote: > > > oops- wrong group- got confused between thyroid groups, lol- Thank you. I was getting worried about what is left of my memory. I was about ready to get my hair analyzed. Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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