Guest guest Posted November 18, 2007 Report Share Posted November 18, 2007 LMAO! That'll be the day... > > Re: cholesterol > <hypothyroidism/message/32730;_ylc=X3oDMTJxdGFxMmJ\ wBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzE0NTY2NARncnBzcElkAzE3MDkyNTEwODIEbXNnSWQDMzI3MzAEc2V\ jA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE5NTQyODA4Ng--> > > > > Posted by: " Chuck B " gumboyaya@... > <mailto:gumboyaya@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20cholesterol> > gumbo482001 <gumbo482001> > > > Sun Nov 18, 2007 3:19 pm (PST) > > Nancie, > > You wrote: > > > > > > oops- wrong group- got confused between thyroid groups, lol- > > Thank you. I was getting worried about what is left of my memory. I was > about ready to get my hair analyzed. > > Chuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 She recommends liver cleanses. Lori > > What does Dr say about high cholesterol? > > Joyce > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 Joyce, The best articles on cholesterol are by Enig who is a big coconut oil fanatic. High cholesterol is not what you have led to believe. It has very little bearing to heart disease as you will read. Cholesterol surrounds the blood cell to protect it from viruses, free radicals and other harmful sources in the body. In essence, it is a protective coating. Saturated fats are a necessity to the body. Why zapping and ridding your body of parasites is so important is that parasites create viruses and other diseases which prompts the body to produce cholesterol to protect the blood cells. Yes, you are unhealthy when you have high cholesterol but as you will read in 's work, it has very little to do with heart disease. In her work, extra virgin coconut oil is a great source of healthy fat and possesses many ingredients which rids the body of parasites and viruses. That is why the societies that live on this source of healthy fat have hardly any instances of heart disease. Dr. 's work is so important because her methods rid the body of diseases and viruses. When these are present in the body, the body fights it by producing cholesterol to protect the cells. So what do we do when we have high coholesterol ??? Go on a no fat diet !!! How stupid. We should be loading up on fat like coconut oil and ridding our body of the viruses and diseases which make the body need this cholesterol to protect our cells. Dr. s work is right on for ridding your body of high cholesterol. Just not as you would think. I think you will find your answers in Enig's work. She and DR. would make a good pair. Good luck, snafflesnshelties <snaffles@...> wrote: What does Dr say about high cholesterol? Joyce Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 17, 2008 Report Share Posted May 17, 2008 she also says 200 plus your age so if youre 45 that would be 245 - only statement that she has EVER made that I question lol Dr@...: howland@...: Sat, 17 May 2008 13:24:41 +0000Subject: Re: cholesterol She recommends liver cleanses.Lori>> What does Dr say about high cholesterol?> > Joyce> _________________________________________________________________ Keep your kids safer online with Windows Live Family Safety. http://www.windowslive.com/family_safety/overview.html?ocid=TXT_TAGLM_WL_Refresh\ _family_safety_052008 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 You should maybe be thinking about raising your HDL instead of lowering your LDL. This is getting off topic, but do you take fish oil? That can help raise HDL. Also, exercise and plenty of good fats. BarbF In a message dated 6/7/2008 10:14:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mlawson66@... writes: Looking at the lab, I've got a red flag on the HDL. It is supposed to be > 40 **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Hi Barb, > You should maybe be thinking about raising your HDL instead of lowering your > LDL. Yeah, I quit taking the statin long ago. I have been supplementing with flax, hemp, and pumpkin seed oil, but I Topper's site had some good data that those oils are bad for thyroid. I picked up some cod liver oil, and ordered a bunch of Krill oil. It just seems funny that after all these lectures about avoiding fats, I need to supplement with them. > This is getting off topic, but do you take fish oil? That can help > raise HDL. Also, exercise and plenty of good fats. Got the exercise covered, will work on getting some healthy fats back into my diet. Right now my diet consists of a blue berry rice and hemp protein shake every morning, a plate full of peas carrots and celery that I graze on all day, and a black bean and rice non dairy low fat burrito for supper. Been doing this since the new year trying to lose weight. I've lost more weight after 2 weeks or so of Armour than I had for the previous several months. Maybe now I can eat something once in a while, but wait. I've got no appetite now. I'm sure that it will all balance out eventually. Thanks for all the good input. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 7, 2008 Report Share Posted June 7, 2008 Hi, Read your post about lowering your HDL. My HDL is 69 (40-59). I do take Fish Oil and the endo told me to cut my Vytorin in half. I try to exercise so will this take care of the matter. I was under the impression that it was good to keep this high. Thank you - Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hi Bonnie, > Read your post about lowering your HDL. > > My HDL is 69 (40-59). I do take Fish Oil and the endo told me to cut my Vytorin in half. I try to exercise so will this take care of the matter. Wow, I think I need to start glugging down lots of Fish Oil. Those are great numbers. Congratulations on being able to lower your dose of Vytorin. > I was under the impression that it was good to keep this high. You are absolutely right, they want the LDL as low as you can get it, HDL as high as you can get it, as long as the total cholesterol number is less than 200. > Thank you - Bonnie You bet, and thanks for helping me decide to try Fish Oil. Best, -Mike Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Amazing...we can do everything but wire our jaws shut and if the thyroid isn't working we get fat. Good to hear the weight is coming off. BarbF In a message dated 6/7/2008 6:17:10 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mlawson66@... writes: I've lost more weight after 2 weeks or so of Armour than I had for the previous several months **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 Hi Bonnie. You are right...It is good to keep HDL up...I thought that was what my post said. But you never know with me...I can twist things around in a heartbeat! BarbF In a message dated 6/7/2008 11:14:22 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, Retirement2004@... writes: I was under the impression that it was good to keep this high. **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 8, 2008 Report Share Posted June 8, 2008 nothing is off topic to me! and this is good advice. Gracia You should maybe be thinking about raising your HDL instead of lowering your LDL. This is getting off topic, but do you take fish oil? That can help raise HDL. Also, exercise and plenty of good fats. BarbF In a message dated 6/7/2008 10:14:16 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, mlawson66@... writes: Looking at the lab, I've got a red flag on the HDL. It is supposed to be > 40 **************Get trade secrets for amazing burgers. Watch " Cooking with Tyler Florence " on AOL Food. (http://food.aol.com/tyler-florence?video=4? & NCID=aolfod00030000000002) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2008 Report Share Posted June 10, 2008 you never want to lower your HDL- this is the good protective cholesterol. you wart to lower the LDL, VLDL, but NOT the HDL From: Retirement2004@... Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 8:14 PM hypothyroidism ; hypothyroidism Cc: Bbircie@... Subject: Re: Re: Cholesterol Hi, Read your post about lowering your HDL. My HDL is 69 (40-59). I do take Fish Oil and the endo told me to cut my Vytorin in half. I try to exercise so will this take care of the matter. I was under the impression that it was good to keep this high. Thank you - Bonnie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Hi That is my concern as well ..... I've been taking cholesterol meds for several years now and my family and friends are telling me the same that I'm going to get in trouble (with higher cholesterol) on such a high fat and high protein diet. There's heart disease in my family so I have to be extra careful about those things. I can't seem to find the cholesterol article either I did hear that too .... liver and kidney functioned could be compromised by the diet but I don't know if that is true or not .... millersonbroad <rn.miller1@...> wrote: Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group. My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet! Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet will cause these problems. Thankyou . M Oz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Hi, I found the cholesterol articles, they were here in the files, I was looking on Bee's website. > Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the > cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group. > My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that > my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet! > Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet > will cause these problems. > > Thankyou > > . M > Oz > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 >Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group. >My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet! >Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet will cause these problems. >Thankyou >. M >Oz It's explained quite well in here http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro2.php but you can also go to Bee's site www.healingnaturallybybee.com <http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/> and do a search on 'cholesterol' in the top right corner. It will give you some more articles. Also, this is not a high protein diet by any means. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Cholesterol has little to do with heart disease. In fact, low cholesterol is dangerous. If you read the black box that Lipitor comes in, it states that the statin does not reduce the risk of heart attack. In other words, the drug is useless. The liver regulates cholesterol production. Cholesterol in foods simply replaces cholesterol manufactured in the liver so any attempt to reduce cholesterol consumption (there is no reason to do so) will be compensated for by increased production in the liver. All these dangerous drugs is to lower the efficiency of the liver by inhibiting the production of a substance that is required to remain healthy. The higher the cholesterol the less there is a risk of cancer. There is no such thing as 'bad' cholesterol. It is the lipoprotein (a) that forms protective plaques over arteries weakened by poor collagen production that would otherwise rupture and cause a hemorrhage. Lowering of cholesterol levels is a stupid and dangerous thing to do. The real risk for heart disease is the level of inflammation which is measured by C-reactive protein produced often by a subacute infection going on somewhere in the body. About 1/2 of those who suffer heart attacks do not have excessive plaques in their arteries. Most heart attacks are electrical in nature due to a build-up of acid in the ventricles of the heart. Exercise produces lactic acids which, when added to existing acids in the blood, will cause a loss of electrical conductivity in the ventricular impulse nerves that produce a co- ordinated rhythm in the left ventricular muscle producing an infarct. Rigerous exercise is unnecessary and has killed many people who are usually out of shape suddenly decide to go out for a run only to keel over in the driveway from an acid over-load. Cayenne pepper placed under the tongue works faster and better than does a defibrilator in restoring normal heart pumping. > Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the > cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group. > My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that > my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet! > Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet > will cause these problems. > > Thankyou > > . M > Oz > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 > > Also, this is not > a high protein diet by any means. > > a > Yes, I was going to point that out too. This isn't a high-protein program. It's actually a high-fat program which scares people even more! I found the best way to handle it with my family is just not tell them much. I haven't been able to make anyone else understand, so I just quit trying. Thank goodness my husband is so open-minded and we can share this journey together, but as for everyone else, I just keep it to myself now. , if your mom is anything like mine, it's probably best just to not tell her much about this program. Good luck. in Tennessee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 It's funny you say that as I don't tell my friends any more either. They think I'm crazy when I try to explain to them what is going on even my own daughter thinks I'm NUTS and is starving myself just to be thin .... ya no kidding, I sure wish I could gain a few pounds these days and feel better. People say I look very pale and thin and ask if I'm ok and I just say yes now and nothing more..... Singhurst <sarahwalker168@...> wrote: > > Also, this is not > a high protein diet by any means. > > a > Yes, I was going to point that out too. This isn't a high-protein program. It's actually a high-fat program which scares people even more! I found the best way to handle it with my family is just not tell them much. I haven't been able to make anyone else understand, so I just quit trying. Thank goodness my husband is so open-minded and we can share this journey together, but as for everyone else, I just keep it to myself now. , if your mom is anything like mine, it's probably best just to not tell her much about this program. Good luck. in Tennessee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 My mom has the same concerns, > > Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the > cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group. > My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that > my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet! > Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet > will cause these problems. > > Thankyou > > . M > Oz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Check some of these out. Irene ><http://www.westonaprice.org/knowyourfats/fats_phony.html>http://www.westonapri\ ce.org/knowyourfats/fats_phony.html >http://www.ravnskov.nu/myth1.htm ><http://www.mercola.com/2005/feb/26/high_cholesterol.htm>http://www.mercola.com\ /2005/feb/26/high_cholesterol.htm >http://www.mercola.com/2000/jan/23/thyroid_disease_high_cholesterol.htm <http://www.thincs.org/>http://www.thincs.org/ http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/index.html ><<http://www.jpands.org/vol10no3/colpo.pdf>http://www.jpands.org/vol10no3/colpo\ ..pdf>http://www.jpands.org/vol10no3/colpo.pdf If you are interested in cholesterol these two are short: < wcaHp4 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8SSCNaaDcE & feature=related And if you have a bit of time, this one is 9 minutes: < VcXo1I If you like the technical stuff this is the REALLY interesting one: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHIA8usGxEM & feature=related>http://www.youtube.c\ om/watch?v=fHIA8usGxEM & feature=related 9 minutes of everything you never knew about statins: <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jE_RIQY53ys & feature=related>http://www.youtube.c\ om/watch?v=jE_RIQY53ys & feature=related At 04:51 AM 6/28/2008, you wrote: >Hi > >That is my concern as well ..... I've been taking cholesterol meds for >several years now and my family and friends are telling me the same that >I'm going to get in trouble (with higher cholesterol) on such a high fat >and high protein diet. There's heart disease in my family so I have to be >extra careful about those things. > >I can't seem to find the cholesterol article either > >I did hear that too .... liver and kidney functioned could be compromised >by the diet but I don't know if that is true or not .... > > > >millersonbroad <<mailto:rn.miller1%40bigpond.com>rn.miller1@...> >wrote: >Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the >cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group. >My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that >my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet! >Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet >will cause these problems. > >Thankyou > >. M >Oz > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Excellent description. I just found this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=awA2fsa94MI & feature=related which basically says what you just said. Irene At 05:54 AM 6/28/2008, you wrote: >Cholesterol has little to do with heart disease. In fact, low >cholesterol is dangerous. If you read the black box that Lipitor >comes in, it states that the statin does not reduce the risk of heart >attack. In other words, the drug is useless. The liver regulates >cholesterol production. Cholesterol in foods simply replaces >cholesterol manufactured in the liver so any attempt to reduce >cholesterol consumption (there is no reason to do so) will be >compensated for by increased production in the liver. All these >dangerous drugs is to lower the efficiency of the liver by inhibiting >the production of a substance that is required to remain healthy. The >higher the cholesterol the less there is a risk of cancer. There is >no such thing as 'bad' cholesterol. It is the lipoprotein (a) that >forms protective plaques over arteries weakened by poor collagen >production that would otherwise rupture and cause a hemorrhage. >Lowering of cholesterol levels is a stupid and dangerous thing to do. > >The real risk for heart disease is the level of inflammation which is >measured by C-reactive protein produced often by a subacute infection >going on somewhere in the body. About 1/2 of those who suffer heart >attacks do not have excessive plaques in their arteries. Most heart >attacks are electrical in nature due to a build-up of acid in the >ventricles of the heart. Exercise produces lactic acids which, when >added to existing acids in the blood, will cause a loss of electrical >conductivity in the ventricular impulse nerves that produce a co- >ordinated rhythm in the left ventricular muscle producing an infarct. >Rigerous exercise is unnecessary and has killed many people who are >usually out of shape suddenly decide to go out for a run only to keel >over in the driveway from an acid over-load. Cayenne pepper placed >under the tongue works faster and better than does a defibrilator in >restoring normal heart pumping. > > > > Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article >explaining the > > cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the >group. > > My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and >that > > my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet! > > Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein >diet > > will cause these problems. > > > > Thankyou > > > > . M > > Oz > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 , this diet is moderate protein, not high protein. However even if it was high protein it wouldn't cause any health problems whatsoever. If it did the Eskimos Dr. Price studied would have had mega health problem because they only ate meats and fats. However they were so healthy they didn't even have cavities. See the Myths & Truths About Beef on my website to understand more about protein: http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/meat2.php Bee > > Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the > cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group. > My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that > my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet! > Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet > will cause these problems. > > Thankyou > > . M > Oz > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 > > Hi > > That is my concern as well ..... I've been taking cholesterol meds for several years now and my family and friends are telling me the same that I'm going to get in trouble (with higher cholesterol) on such a high fat and high protein diet. There's heart disease in my family so I have to be extra careful about those things. > > I can't seem to find the cholesterol article either > > I did hear that too .... liver and kidney functioned could be compromised by the diet but I don't know if that is true or not .... ==>If you type cholesterol in Search on my website you will get 3 good articles in the top 4 that come up. You can also search our message archives, or search on www.westonaprice.org or www.mercola.com for cholesterol information. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 > > Hi, I found the cholesterol articles, they were here in the files, I > was looking on Bee's website. ==>, when I typed cholesterol in the search on my website 3 articles came up of the first 4 listed. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2008 Report Share Posted June 28, 2008 Thankyou so much for all your input re; cholesterol, I have some research to do! Sorry I didn't find the articles myself, still not very techno-savvy. . M > >Hi, could someone please give me a link to the article explaining the > >cholesterol myth? I'm sorry, I can't find it, still new to the group. > >My mother is worried that I am going to have high cholesterol and that > >my kidney and liver function will be compromised due to this diet! > >Have you heard this? Apparently some people think a high-protein diet > >will cause these problems. > > > >Thankyou > > > >. M > >Oz > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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