Spitting

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My son (8) spits at his brother to annoy him. He loves to see how he can upset him. He knows this is annoying. Just like another parent stated you can't just say stop it and it will go away. Even though it appears they are aware of what they are doing they don't know what is socially acceptable. I also agree with a social story. My son started going to 7Eleven alone. I sent in a social story to his teacher. She went over it, had classmates talk about how you don't go to the store alone only with parents. They discussed it for about a week and he has never done it again!! The social story and the other kids reinforcing that it was not okay helped him to "get it."

Chelly

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I have a colleague whose son with autism spits. It's his way of showing frustration or anger at a person. He's nonverbal as well.

Missy in Md.

P.S. If you'd like for me to put you in touch with her, I can. E-mail me privately and I'll forward it to her.

-----Original Message-----From: mybrandyskye [mailto:mybrandyskye@...]Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:37 PMautism Subject: Re: SpittingWould a social story help to give her another way to communicate? Is she verbal? If she spits can they redirect her to something she doesn't want to do? Like write sentences "I won't spit, I won't spit" over and over?My friend's kid has been spitting and hitting but it is because after seizure activity he acts out.Could she be having acid reflux, not feeling good, and getting too much saliva in her mouth?Let us know what works.> I just got a call from my daughters school to come pick her up > because she is spitting in peoples faces. I got a letter yesterday > regarding the same thing. She had spit in the past but always on > the floor when she is angry. I don't know what to do to get her to > stop spitting. The school seems to think that all I need to do is > talk to her about how it is wrong and she will just stop. I have > discussed this with her until I am blue in the face and she still > spits. Any suggestions... Please... I don't know what to do at this > point. Thanks for any help.. Shirley

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I have a colleague whose son with autism spits. It's his way of showing frustration or anger at a person. He's nonverbal as well.

Missy in Md.

P.S. If you'd like for me to put you in touch with her, I can. E-mail me privately and I'll forward it to her.

-----Original Message-----From: mybrandyskye [mailto:mybrandyskye@...]Sent: Friday, October 10, 2003 1:37 PMautism Subject: Re: SpittingWould a social story help to give her another way to communicate? Is she verbal? If she spits can they redirect her to something she doesn't want to do? Like write sentences "I won't spit, I won't spit" over and over?My friend's kid has been spitting and hitting but it is because after seizure activity he acts out.Could she be having acid reflux, not feeling good, and getting too much saliva in her mouth?Let us know what works.> I just got a call from my daughters school to come pick her up > because she is spitting in peoples faces. I got a letter yesterday > regarding the same thing. She had spit in the past but always on > the floor when she is angry. I don't know what to do to get her to > stop spitting. The school seems to think that all I need to do is > talk to her about how it is wrong and she will just stop. I have > discussed this with her until I am blue in the face and she still > spits. Any suggestions... Please... I don't know what to do at this > point. Thanks for any help.. Shirley

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In a message dated 11/16/2004 1:06:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

Any ideas on how to stop a child from spitting??

When Sheila went through this phase I would: Take her to the bathroom with

the comment " Oh, I see you feel like spitting. " Once I got her there I would

calmly say to her " We do not spit on people. Spitting in the toilet is okay. "

The

first time she thought it was great fun, however when she spit once and was

ready to leave I calmly told her she would have to spit until I told her to

stop. All of a sudden it wasn't fun any more. She tested me 2 or 3 more times

and

she was done with spitting on people.

nancy

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In a message dated 11/16/2004 1:06:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

writes:

Any ideas on how to stop a child from spitting??

When Sheila went through this phase I would: Take her to the bathroom with

the comment " Oh, I see you feel like spitting. " Once I got her there I would

calmly say to her " We do not spit on people. Spitting in the toilet is okay. "

The

first time she thought it was great fun, however when she spit once and was

ready to leave I calmly told her she would have to spit until I told her to

stop. All of a sudden it wasn't fun any more. She tested me 2 or 3 more times

and

she was done with spitting on people.

nancy

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If Trent had of been into spitting - I think this course of action

would of worked for me.

Jan, mother of Trent 20yo w/Ds - 2 weeks until we are off to

UK,Europe & Lapland -

In , NEHolroyd@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/16/2004 1:06:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> writes:

> Any ideas on how to stop a child from spitting??

> When Sheila went through this phase I would: Take her to the

bathroom with

> the comment " Oh, I see you feel like spitting. " Once I got her

there I would

> calmly say to her " We do not spit on people. Spitting in the

toilet is okay. " The

> first time she thought it was great fun, however when she spit

once and was

> ready to leave I calmly told her she would have to spit until I

told her to

> stop. All of a sudden it wasn't fun any more. She tested me 2 or 3

more times and

> she was done with spitting on people.

>

> nancy

>

>

>

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If Trent had of been into spitting - I think this course of action

would of worked for me.

Jan, mother of Trent 20yo w/Ds - 2 weeks until we are off to

UK,Europe & Lapland -

In , NEHolroyd@a... wrote:

> In a message dated 11/16/2004 1:06:37 PM Eastern Standard Time,

> writes:

> Any ideas on how to stop a child from spitting??

> When Sheila went through this phase I would: Take her to the

bathroom with

> the comment " Oh, I see you feel like spitting. " Once I got her

there I would

> calmly say to her " We do not spit on people. Spitting in the

toilet is okay. " The

> first time she thought it was great fun, however when she spit

once and was

> ready to leave I calmly told her she would have to spit until I

told her to

> stop. All of a sudden it wasn't fun any more. She tested me 2 or 3

more times and

> she was done with spitting on people.

>

> nancy

>

>

>

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I may get flamed for child abuse but for my two youngest (one with DS,

and one without), spitting was a bad habit. My SIL told me that soap

was the quickest, always with you whereever you were, kind of solution.

I didn't want to try this, but I was unsuccessful at anything else. So,

I told them that spitting was yucky, and that if they spit, I would

clean their mouth with soap. Within an hour, spit at someone.

I calmly took a tiny dab of liquid soap from the dispenser and wiped it

on her tounge. She was mad! Then I held her up over the kitchen sink

and she spit and spit and spit, trying to get rid of the soap. I let

her do this for about a minute or so, then gave her a glass of wate to

clean her mouth out with (and more spitting in the sink)r. Told her

that would happen if she spit. She did not start up again for over a

year, then started again. Reminded her that spitting girls got soap,

she stopped, but then got into the habit again. Did soap once more, and

haven't had to do it again. Did this one time for a couple

years ago (and I hated every second of it, much more so than my other

one :-), but I knew that school would have a fit if she did this at

school. Once was enough for her..... she has never spit again.

Good luck to you!

, mom to (9), (6 DS), and (5)

Leis wrote:

> Any ideas on how to stop a child from spitting??

>

>BJ for some reason keeps spitting on ppl.

>

>It is a disgusting habit and it is one that needs to be broken very quickly.

>

>Any help appreciated guys

>

>TIA

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I may get flamed for child abuse but for my two youngest (one with DS,

and one without), spitting was a bad habit. My SIL told me that soap

was the quickest, always with you whereever you were, kind of solution.

I didn't want to try this, but I was unsuccessful at anything else. So,

I told them that spitting was yucky, and that if they spit, I would

clean their mouth with soap. Within an hour, spit at someone.

I calmly took a tiny dab of liquid soap from the dispenser and wiped it

on her tounge. She was mad! Then I held her up over the kitchen sink

and she spit and spit and spit, trying to get rid of the soap. I let

her do this for about a minute or so, then gave her a glass of wate to

clean her mouth out with (and more spitting in the sink)r. Told her

that would happen if she spit. She did not start up again for over a

year, then started again. Reminded her that spitting girls got soap,

she stopped, but then got into the habit again. Did soap once more, and

haven't had to do it again. Did this one time for a couple

years ago (and I hated every second of it, much more so than my other

one :-), but I knew that school would have a fit if she did this at

school. Once was enough for her..... she has never spit again.

Good luck to you!

, mom to (9), (6 DS), and (5)

Leis wrote:

> Any ideas on how to stop a child from spitting??

>

>BJ for some reason keeps spitting on ppl.

>

>It is a disgusting habit and it is one that needs to be broken very quickly.

>

>Any help appreciated guys

>

>TIA

>

>

>

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Thanks guys- 2 great ideas will try each one and see how she goes

Kerrigan wrote:

>tiny dab of liquid soap from the dispenser and wiped it

>on her tounge.

>

--

Aussie Leis- mum to BJ - 7 yrs Friday - ds, Natasha 2.5 yrs and 1

" Lead me not into temptation; I can find the way myself. "

Rita Mae Brown

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Thanks guys- 2 great ideas will try each one and see how she goes

Kerrigan wrote:

>tiny dab of liquid soap from the dispenser and wiped it

>on her tounge.

>

--

Aussie Leis- mum to BJ - 7 yrs Friday - ds, Natasha 2.5 yrs and 1

" Lead me not into temptation; I can find the way myself. "

Rita Mae Brown

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Have you tried rewarding non-spitting? I trained Karac to stop screaming in Sunday school by rewarding non-screaming. In the beginning about every 15 minutes I would give him a little gummie and say "good being calm and quiet." Then I was able to increase the time before I gave a reward. Karac is now 12 years old and screaming hasn't been a problem for years. How often does your son spit? Does he go an hour without spitting? Any way, I think you get the idea. Good luck. Pat K

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CB was a spitter...whenever he got mad, look out ! I suggested that the family ignore it, abruptly disengage in activity. Everybody thought I was nuts.... Started giving CB a time for spitting. Bought bubbles...said "Spit at the bubbles and pop them" He did, till he went absolutely dry. The family Finally tried it my way...it worked. The reason they spit at you ,and CB would go right for your face, is because they get a reward response of disgust. Remember they dont percieve that like we do , give it a try.

CB's Granny

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I agree with CB"s Granny. My dd was a spitter-right in your face. We tried EVERYTHING. What worked was absolutely NO reaction. That is hard to do I know! Her father had a hard time doing that but when he was finally able to not react she quit with him too. One of her teachers face would turn red and spit at her too until the teacher got to the place where she could control that and it ended. Once in a great while she will try it but if no one says a word she doens't repeat. Once I said stop and immediately she did it again. It has been months now. She will test out a new person though-just once. We make sure that any new therapist or teachers know not to react since we figured that out.

Elaine

Re: Spitting

CB was a spitter...whenever he got mad, look out ! I suggested that the family ignore it, abruptly disengage in activity. Everybody thought I was nuts.... Started giving CB a time for spitting. Bought bubbles...said "Spit at the bubbles and pop them" He did, till he went absolutely dry. The family Finally tried it my way...it worked. The reason they spit at you ,and CB would go right for your face, is because they get a reward response of disgust. Remember they dont percieve that like we do , give it a try. CB's Granny

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I have the same problem with the spitting I have a 6 year old daughter that has been doing it the whole school year almost. We have tried everything. I guess its just a behavior that will change in time with a new behavior that seems to be the pattern!!!

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My daughter does not Run out of salvia I thought about taking her to the dentist thinking she has extra just think swallowing that stuff all the time could make ones belly hurt. My daughter though does not show a behavioral problem when doing it like she does not do it when shes angry. She just does it pretty much I think when shes bored or steming.

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Hey,

One of our 12 year old twins has been a spitter off and on.... It

is so tough to ignore him, but that is truely the trick to get him to

quit.... but he spits at strangers and at his brother... 14 year old

asperger's guy..... same at school... he will spit at the other autistic

students and how do you get them to ignore him, ugh. What seems to

work for us is making him spit in a cup... usually a stirofoam one so it

doesn't hurt his mouth. He has to spit 20 times and he's a big guy

so we have to physically contain him like in a corner so he won't

run off... he is non-verbal but he does understand when we say

" do you need a cup " Sometimes we don't have a cup,

so we make him spit in some kleenex or just squat down if he's

outside. He generally gives up after one round of us taking control

of the behavior.

..At 12:54 PM 4/15/2005 -0400, you wrote:

CB was a

spitter...whenever he got mad, look out ! I suggested that the

family ignore it, abruptly disengage in activity. Everybody thought I was

nuts.... Started giving CB a time for spitting. Bought bubbles...said

" Spit at the bubbles and pop them " He did, till he went

absolutely dry. The family Finally tried it my way...it worked. The

reason they spit at you ,and CB would go right for your face, is

because they get a reward response of disgust. Remember they dont

percieve that like we do , give it a try.

CB's Granny

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Wow, never thought of that ! Great Idea. I will try that with my daughter. I swear she could be a baseball player as much as she spits. LOL I do think its when shes not busy. I notice it the most. She does not do it when shes doing writing or other things that involves her hands. Or even swinging. Sometimes though she holds it in her mouth if shes not sure if shes in a place she can spit. Like at the store I usually just let her spit on the floor because I do not want her to get sick from holding it.The school does the paper cup thing with a napkin in it. She does not spit at people though I guess I am lucky for that. KNOCK ON WOOD!!! Thanks for that idea though I am gonna try it

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My mikey was of spitter and what to stopped of him to sounds of mean

but this is what I to do. If he to spit on me I to wipe it off wioth

my hand amd smear it back to hims face or arms. He to hated that and

thinked is so much an aversive that it stopped the behavior much

quick.

Now at age of 13 he to did one spit episode at hims sister . Both

were at the pool and hims sister was of stand near him butnot with

intent was showing off of the flippers she to had on her feet and it

splashed at Mike, he to spit at her. I to asked him why he to chose

to do that, he to say, " she was getting me wet so I to get her wet

back " . So had to do social story of the rude and not good choise of

that action to any human being in life. He to simply lacked there

was a social rule to that as being a high standard form of human

degrade and then felt bad to do that and will hopefully never repeat

of the actions. Many lack the fact we do that which we do not

understand. Maybe having a set rule of where he can spit such as

saying one can only spit into the toilet bowl or when outside on

trees or grass or what ever the rule is to be. It is also much hard

to tell us with a dx no spitting when 50% or so of all teen males

and some girls spit daily and is of a social accepted gesture among

that age groups. Not saying adults to support or like of it but

teens tend to have thems own cultural codes that defy parental and

others boundaries for a time. So one has to massure he is not mixed

up on the social standards he sees others doing but lacks the

boundary of that gesture that other teens would know such as they

might spit outside but not in the school hallway, we to lack that

part of the knowing to the rule so may spit anywhere. So clearly

define the space and place where spitting can occur if of teen. If

it is of done in aggression to another it is of behavior that needs

redirected of extinguished becuase it will isolate and prevent

social acceptance of them.

Sondra

Sondra

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HI,

I would like to thank everyone for the help both off and online. I am

hoping that he will soon change to something else other than spitting.

Until then, I am going to try some of the good ideas that many of you

have given me.

thanks

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Yes, your probably right, I sometimes forget he attends an SLD school with many behaviours, have already noticed when I pick him up from school he rocks back and forth and just about every child in his school does that!

It's a difficult one as he is too severe to attend anything other than SLD but at the same time he is inclined to copy what he sees.

Vicky

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Yes, your probably right, I sometimes forget he attends an SLD school with many behaviours, have already noticed when I pick him up from school he rocks back and forth and just about every child in his school does that!

It's a difficult one as he is too severe to attend anything other than SLD but at the same time he is inclined to copy what he sees.

Vicky

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>

> From nowhere we have spitting, if anyone remembers tiswas and spit

the

> dog then that is what it looks and sounds like!

> Not following from food or a yucky supp, just out of the blue, no

> temper involved, getting a good 10-15 minutes at a time, it's

> completely out of the blue.

> Anyone else ever had this?

> Ignoring it at the moment in the hope he will stop, otherwise

> everything fine.

> Vicky

>

Could he have learnt it from somebody? We had licking out of the

blue, but then dd fessed up and said she'd taught it to him during

one of their incomprehensible games. So I told her to unteach him

it. Amazing to think that the spirit of Spit the Dog has survived

into the 21st century! Hope you can extinguish it soon though....

Anne-Marie

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>

> From nowhere we have spitting, if anyone remembers tiswas and spit

the

> dog then that is what it looks and sounds like!

> Not following from food or a yucky supp, just out of the blue, no

> temper involved, getting a good 10-15 minutes at a time, it's

> completely out of the blue.

> Anyone else ever had this?

> Ignoring it at the moment in the hope he will stop, otherwise

> everything fine.

> Vicky

>

Could he have learnt it from somebody? We had licking out of the

blue, but then dd fessed up and said she'd taught it to him during

one of their incomprehensible games. So I told her to unteach him

it. Amazing to think that the spirit of Spit the Dog has survived

into the 21st century! Hope you can extinguish it soon though....

Anne-Marie

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In a message dated 2/28/2007 2:25:43 PM Eastern Standard Time,

jannbriggs@... writes:

It's almost like my son is under the watchful eye of all of his classmates,

the aide, the teacher, and others so that when he does do something negative,

EVERYONE points it out, and he isn't verbal enough to let us know why he

does things. I don't want him labeled as having behavior problems when actually

they just may not know how to identify why they are occurring.

Boy do I hear you Jill!!! I have been getting reports of my son pushing and

hitting but when I hve gone to the class for school functionsx I have seen

none of this I questioned whether something else could be going on. Of

course it was " jno " > Anyway I went to a class party for valentines day and

hung

around while the kids were lining up for gym (supposedly the worst place for

him to get into trouble). While the teacher was busy with other kids and

Micah's aide was talking with another child the two kids in front of Micah

turned

around and started slapping at him. Now mind you they wer playing, not

really trying to hurt him but of course he started slapping back. This went on

back and forth until the boy caught my eye. He immediately yelled " Micah hit

me!!! " Boy was I livid. I told the aide what I had seen and she admitted

that the two kids in front of Micah had some issues! Well now i know why he

has been getting bad reports. He can't speak for himself and no one was

watching so if someone looks then Micah makes a great scapegoat. Get your

school

to do an FBA (Full Behavioral analysis) so they can see why, when and what

happens when this behavior accurs. Could be he is frustrated by something and

is doing it in response. Or for some other reason. DO not let them use any

spray in his mouth or wear a mask...are you kidding me or what!!! They

wouldn't think of putting a mask on a typical child for doing the same thing.

They need to figure out why the behavior is occuring dn then go from their.

Maybe someone is spitting at him on the playground or some other place where he

has learned the bhehanvior. Is this new?? I have always said that whenever

my child does something he is judged 10 tuimes as hard and it is blamed on

the fact that he has Down Syndrome. All kids have quirks they don't get moved

into the self contained classroom for them. Just my 2 pennies!

Loree

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