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Spitting has always been yeast overgrowth for my youngest one(3.5 yrs).

Are you chelating? What are you using for controlling yeast?

Madhuri

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> My grandson has recently started to spit on kids and some adults.

> What would be causing this most recent behavior.

> He is non-verbal.

> Thanks if anyone has any suggestions on what he is lacking etc.

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My son has done this off and on for years. When he does it we increase his

yeast protocol

and it goes away in a couple of days. It's always yeast for him. Vicki

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> > My grandson has recently started to spit on kids and some adults.

> > What would be causing this most recent behavior.

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> > Thanks if anyone has any suggestions on what he is lacking etc.

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> The first thing that comes to my mind is wondering if he has heard

> someone use the expression " spitting on someone " to indicate an

> insult. If so, he may be taking that literally, whether he intends it

> as an insult or not.

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> Alternately, he may like the reaction it gets out of people. My

> oldest will respond to strong reactions, and it doesn't have to be

> something I would consider positive or would want to encourage if it

> were me. I have known a few people who thrived on getting strong

> reactions out of people and who also seemed incapable of

> discriminating between " good " and " bad " reactions. They don't

> necessarily mean to cause trouble, they just hunger for some kind of

> feedback or they crave something emotionally. It seems to me being

> non-verbal would be very socially isolating. If spitting on people is

> getting a reaction out of them, this may be some means for him to

> connect. If that's the main motivation, then I would try to find some

> means to channel that more constructively.

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> It also seems to me that if it is related to a desire for more social

> connection, it could also indicate a recent improvement in

> awareness/ability to reach out. I have been cranky and socially

> dissatisfied in recent weeks and finally realized it is because I

> finally have the energy for socializing again, after not having the

> energy for it for a very long time. Just realizing that is one of my

> issues has helped me make peace with it and look for more constructive

> solutions.

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> Good luck with this, whatever the answer turns out to be.

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> Michele

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Parasites. You can do a cleanse or if you have a DAN! ask for Vermox. You can

also have your regular doctor prescribe Vermox. But there are many OTC products

as well.

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> Anyone have any ideas as to why a 5 year old would suddenly start spitting. It

started about 3 months ago. It is terrible. Does it all day long. Driving us

crazy.

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> JoAnn

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Hi JoAnn

Whilst it is worth looking at possible yeast and other physiological reasons I

personally would not overlook behavioural reasons.

What may have started out as a sensory/physical reason for spitting, your child

may have quickly learnt that this gets a big reaction as you have suggested when

you said that it drives you crazy and this therefore may reinforce his spitting

it may also turn into a stim. Spitting seems to be very difficult to stop as it

seems to provoke such a big reaction, sometimes more than other behaviours such

as headbanging, etc as it seems more defiant. Along with trying bio-med

interventions I would also try to make sure that his spitting would meet with

possible loss of reinforcement or rewards and the lack of spitting even for a

few minutes(which can gradually be extended) would meet with lots of

reinforcement, rewards, praise, warmth and attention.

Even then I must admit from personal experience it is still very difficult, but

also still quite possible.

Kenny

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started about 3 months ago. It is terrible. Does it all day long. Driving us

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Yeast.

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> Anyone have any ideas as to why a 5 year old would suddenly start spitting. It

started about 3 months ago. It is terrible. Does it all day long. Driving us

crazy.

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> Anyone have any ideas as to why a 5 year old would suddenly start spitting. It

started about 3 months ago. It is terrible. Does it all day long. Driving us

crazy.

For my son, this meant carnitine deficiency, caused by giving a few supplements

without carnitine.

Dana

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Thanks Dana. I will give it a try.

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Subject: [ ] Re: Spitting

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> Anyone have any ideas as to why a 5 year old would suddenly start spitting. It

started about 3 months ago. It is terrible. Does it all day long. Driving us

crazy.

For my son, this meant carnitine deficiency, caused by giving a few supplements

without carnitine.

Dana

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I have 2 supplements here, but can't remember which was recommended for

'spitting'..either Choline or Acetyl-L-Carnitine..can someone help out here?

Donna

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Sent: Sat, 6 February, 2010 2:00:13 PM

Subject: [ ] Spitting

 

My son(3) is suddenly constantly spitting. Why?

He does happen to have pink eye right now but I assume that is unrelated.

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It's carnitine. Take a look at this thread:

/message/271475

It seems to stop my son from playing with his saliva, but I don't know why.

-Ann

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'spitting'..either Choline or Acetyl-L-Carnitine..can someone help out here?

> Donna

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Hi

I know that this is primarily a bio-med group, but I would not rule out a

behavioural reason for this, especially if this continues after trying the

helpful advice here.

Spitting is very hard to stop if it is behavioural because it almost always

guarantees a response, as he is still very young it might not seem too bad at

the moment, but it might be a different kettle of fish if this is still

happening when school starts, teachers really don't like it.

Giving no attention to it and giving lots of attention for appropriate behaviour

might work if you can put up with this for a while, alternatively unfortunately

giving negative punishment meaning restricting or taking away favourite things

when this happens and trying to make it clear the reason for this whilst at the

same time giving lots of positive attention for good behaviour and absence of

unappropriate behaviour might help.

If this lingers on then consistency may become very important.

Kenny

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Hi,My son is having the same problem with spitting-the GSE was helping for a

while but now it has come back (though I give him GSE daily) and he also started

daytime/nighttime wetting which is new-would L-Carnitine help for wetting too.

 Also how much L-Carnitine is recommended and how often? Thanks.

Jackie

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Subject: [ ] Re: Spitting

Date: Saturday, February 6, 2010, 5:36 AM

 

It's carnitine. Take a look at this thread:

http://health. groups.. com/group/ / message/271475

It seems to stop my son from playing with his saliva, but I don't know why.

-Ann

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'spitting'.. either Choline or Acetyl-L-Carnitine. .can someone help out here?

> Donna

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It sounds like yeast. Maybe alternate yeast treatment.

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How much GSE? You may need to increase it or add more probiotics. Spit play is

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Hi Guys,

I wondered if any of you have issues with your children spitting, the school called me yesterday to tell me Gregor had spat in another boys face, I told her he had done it before and that it my be something to do with his Aspergers, she said she didn't think there was a connection. On asking Gregor the boy in question had been pointing at him and laughing (without making any noise) of course the teacher didn't see any of this, but then Gregor spat at him and he told the teacher. I just wondered if any of you have had similar experiences, and how to stop the spitting, Gregor just kept saying I couldn't stop my self.

Cheers

Lorraine

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