Running

[Guest guest]

,

I have heard that moderate exercise is good for Lyme disease, time will

tell if the running you did today was too much or not.

Best to you,

Marta

>From: Iggy81@...

>

>I was wondering what most people say about us Lymies exercising? I just

came

>back from a one mile run, and it has made me feel better for the time

being.

>I am sure I will pay for it later, sleeping an extra hour or two at least.

Is

>this good to do?

>

>

[Guest guest]

Jen~ If I was you, and you really want to run,

start slow, if you can be comfortable with walking

30-45 min, gradually begin a walk/jog interval.

Example: jog 1 min walk 5min and repeat up to 30-45min

total. If this is ok with your knee, try 2 min jog etc.

Remember be smart and pain is your guide. Have you tried a

patella neoprene knee sleeve? don't rush it, walking can

be an excellent source of exercise too.

[Guest guest]

What is the neoprene knee sleeve? I am curious! I am trying to appreciate

walking since I am thinking that running may be too painful. Thanks for your

response?

[Guest guest]

It is just a simple pull on brace with a hole cut

out for the patella. There are a lot of fancy braces

designed to keep the knee cap in place, but my experience

is that the simple 15$ one from your local pharmacy

works as well. Also if you are in PT ask your PT about

McConnel taping. It is temporary but helps hold the

patella stable during exercise and may help reduce your

pain. It works well for me. I have actually been taping

for years, it allows me to do so much more activity.

[Guest guest]

Ann-I really appreciate your advise. I have a

donjoy brace my PT gave me after lateral release surgery

years back. It does helps during excercise put I still

have pain afterwards. I remember she told me to not

depend on it for support- instead, depend on keeping my

quad muscles strong. However, as I have strengthened

my quads, my knees still grind and hurt alot. So I

use it! I would like to look into the taping process

especially since both knees are affected now- two braces

seem cumbersome. Jen

[Guest guest]

Jen~ my advice about bracing or taping is if it

helps, use it! of course we would rather have the quad

strength to go without it, but that is one catch with PFC~

pain usually shuts the quad down and prevents it from

firing full force. And if bracing allows you to be more

active then it is the best for the joint. Are you icing

after exercise?

[Guest guest]

What is it with running? Jeez!

Because there is not much that matches the feeling of finishing a Marathon,

and not many people walk a marathon....

-Amy o+ sec, 2 time marathon finisher

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In a message dated 8/1/2002 12:45:57 AM Central Daylight Time,

writes:

<<

,

Your sounds just like my ! He was 3 in April and looks to

be headed in the same direction as . He constantly runs away,

laughs whenever he knows he's in trouble or doing something wrong, and does

the whole stop drop and flop no matter what surface he is on!! It's getting

very difficult to handle him sometimes. And he is so heavy now and so

strong. I have just started looking into a Baby Jogger because he has also

become Houdini with escaping from every traditional stroller. I think the

baby jogger would be a good investment with both the 5 point harness to keep

him in and also the fact that it holds up to around 65 lbs so it will last as

he grows!!!

I am headed to that website for some ideas. I have to say it's comforting

to know I'm not the only one going through this type of behavior.

thanks,

jayne >>

and Jayne,

One pointer is not to comment when you retrieve them from wherever they are

going. It is a game to them and of course you have to stop them but if you

scold them and give them attention for it they will repeat it more and more.

I think the things that worked best for us was ignoring him after I had

retrieved him, walked/ carried him back with out talking to him. Prevention.

keeping him close so he couldn't get far.

has outgrown this thank goodness. OK, mostly, he still has his stubborn

moments.

Good luck,

Karyn

[Guest guest]

> One pointer is not to comment when you retrieve them from wherever they

are

> going. It is a game to them and of course you have to stop them but if you

> scold them and give them attention for it they will repeat it more and

more.

> I think the things that worked best for us was ignoring him after I had

> retrieved him, walked/ carried him back with out talking to him......

Great advice, and it will be hard for me to do. LOL! However, if I expect

to change her behavior, I guess I can be expect to change mine as

well!

[Guest guest]

's got some pretty good ones. I believe she said a 10 would be

like if Jack the Ripper were chasing you. A 6-8 might be nearly

conversational running. A 5 would be moving on but comfortable. The

intensity is in the effort of your legs to cover the ground. The

faster they move you along the more intense it is. Sprinting is

considered a 10 but you can't last too long at it. A few intervals of

this for 20 minutes will crank your fatburning power up for the whole

day however.

Stasia

[Guest guest]

for me a 10 effort in running is when i'm ready to barf up a lung.

-cera

S Bachrach wrote:

>'s got some pretty good ones. I believe she said a 10 would be

>like if Jack the Ripper were chasing you. A 6-8 might be nearly

>conversational running. A 5 would be moving on but comfortable. The

>intensity is in the effort of your legs to cover the ground. The

>faster they move you along the more intense it is. Sprinting is

>considered a 10 but you can't last too long at it. A few intervals of

>this for 20 minutes will crank your fatburning power up for the whole

>day however.

>

>Stasia

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

CB's Granny, that is so interesting! What a great experience for CB. Do you think we have found one of the answers? Maybe these kids run because they have cabin fever! LOL, Pat K

[Guest guest]

LOL....well it does make sence. Our kids are curious about this wacky world, we as the parents and grandparents tend to keep them "safe ", due to meltdowns and running. Maybe they are trying to tell us they have outgrown the yard, it would be reasonable for a 6, 7, 8 etc. to want out. Today the family will be going to a carnival around 2. Lots of noise, colors, LOL but there will be 5 of us "spotting "CB. this should be interesting .

Happy Day ! )

CB's Granny

[Guest guest]

I know that Evan 'runs' most of the time because he wants to examine the world around here. Trouble is, that his curiosity leads him to go into strangers' homes or back yards.

BETTY ANN-62 yo, possibly undx'd Bipolar Effexor, Buspar

grandma toANDREW - 12 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD, HomeschooledEVAN - 10 yo-- nonverbal autismDAVID 7 yo Bipolar/ADHD

and mother to ANDREA -33 yo, their mom

wife to BOB - 72 yo, a very tired grandpa

[Guest guest]

Karac use to be the same way. One time Karac actually went into some men's apartment. We were at a swimming pool at an apartment complex. It didn't occur to me that he would suddenly jump out of the pool and run into one of the apartments. It was so embarassing running after him in my bathing suit! LOL, Pat K

[Guest guest]

Add CB to that list as well, most of the time we explain and the folks are really nice. If they have kids or elderly they say bring him back to play. I think i told you about the elderly couple down the street from his house. They have a lovely garden with cute animals and gnomes, CB just loves to sit there LOL.

CB's Granny

[Guest guest]

Bless their hearts. Most people are very understanding now.....but when they get older, oh, boy, can that turn out bad.

BETTY

----- Original Message -----

From: pkuenstler@...

Karac use to be the same way. One time Karac actually went into some men's apartment. We were at a swimming pool at an apartment complex. It didn't occur to me that he would suddenly jump out of the pool and run into one of the apartments. It was so embarassing running after him in my bathing suit! LOL, Pat K

[Guest guest]

Barbara, the regression may just be from adjusting to going off the medication. One time Karac got out of the car while I was getting gasoline at the service station. He ran into one of the busiest intersections in Dallas. I screamed, "Help me! Karac is autistic". Like you I was afraid to run after him because he would just have run further into the traffic and laugh. A long legged, athletic looking black man appeared out of nowhere, grabbed him, and buckled him into the back seat of my car. I had, "How much do I owe you?" He said, "Nothing, just think God." Then, he was gone. I haven't stopped for gasoline with Karac in the car since.I can't remember ever being more scared. I don't think Karac would do it now, but I'm not taking any more chances. LOL, Pat K

[Guest guest]

Barbara and Pat,

Hi! JJ took off on his bike a couple of years ago and go on I-81 heading to the mall!!!!!!! I couldn't find him and called the police-Here a boy in his class at school was with his mom in the car and saw J and they followed him. A big rig came running down the road and stopped and got J off the road and the police got him!!!!!!!!! My nerves was a wreck for a week! He is 16 now and STILL takes off when he gets a thought. Lois

Re: Running

Barbara, the regression may just be from adjusting to going off the medication. One time Karac got out of the car while I was getting gasoline at the service station. He ran into one of the busiest intersections in Dallas. I screamed, "Help me! Karac is autistic". Like you I was afraid to run after him because he would just have run further into the traffic and laugh. A long legged, athletic looking black man appeared out of nowhere, grabbed him, and buckled him into the back seat of my car. I had, "How much do I owe you?" He said, "Nothing, just think God." Then, he was gone. I haven't stopped for gasoline with Karac in the car since.I can't remember ever being more scared. I don't think Karac would do it now, but I'm not taking any more chances. LOL, Pat K

[Guest guest]

Once when and Mark were living in a motor home in a trailer park, I left Evan with them for awhile because he really missed being with his mom. I asked her if she might fall asleep because her asthma was bothering and that usually made her sleepy. She did not think that or Evan would let her sleep. After I got home, Bob was listening to his scanner and heard that a blonde boy in his underwear was running down the middle of R street, stopping only to check out the parked cars. Bob immediately decided that it was Evan but I told him that only the week before he had thought the boy wandering around town in that area was . Well, anyway, I called the police and it was not long before I agreed with Bob that it was Evan. CPS finally called me (one of the good times) and told me where I could pick him up. Two of them had him in their car, in the front of their office (it was the weekend). They had found him a shirt and he was as happy as could be. They had been worried though because they did not have a clue as to what to do with a nonverbal boy who was very obvious autistic. They listened to my explanation that I had left him with his mom, I had custody and they had no phone that I could call them. When I arrived at the motorhome I knocked on the door and waited. got up and saw Evan was gone and started scrambling around, looking in every corner, screaming for Evan. She was terrified before and after I let her know that I had him. Not only did the boys let her and Mark go to sleep but so did . Then Evan crawled over them and out the tiny window, right over Mark. That was the last time he stayed with them in that trailer. CPS went over and talked with and she told them what happened and that was the end of it.

Will our boys ever stop this running?

BETTY ANN-62 yo, possibly undx'd Bipolar Effexor, Buspar

grandma toANDREW - 12 yo-- Bipolar/ADHD, HomeschooledEVAN - 10 yo-- nonverbal autismDAVID 7 yo Bipolar/ADHD

and mother to ANDREA -33 yo, their mom, also Bipolar/ADHD

wife to BOB - 72 yo, a very tired grandpa

[Guest guest]

> Got a chair and unlocked the top lock and was off. Thank God the neighbor called me. <

We have screw type locks on all our windows and our doors have dead bolts that we keep locked and I carry a key in my pocket all the time. We have to keep our doors locked inside too most of the time. I carry a little key that fits those locks in the other pocket. Such is life with autism. We have not been able to lock our frig because of the style of it. I know people lock those too.

[Guest guest]

I run every day, I go at a leisurely pace on off days. I need to run to

relieve my stresses, it would be worse for me if I didn't!

MN

[Guest guest]

I think it's an individual decision. Some do, some don't. Maggie never seems

to take much of a break, LOL... dunno about ... but I say if you feel

like it, go for it. Just don't feel OBLIGATED to work out on your free day.

If you FEEL like resting, let yourself... and don't feel guilty about it!

Good luck, and HTH!

: )

~Lydia

" Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in

a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways, thoroughly

used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow - what a Ride!' "

~~ Sage (entrepreneur and speaker)

running

i was thinking about running today, but I decided not to..does

anything think it would of been ok, I wouldnt have done HIIT but

just done a medium high speed, or should you always have one day

off??

[Guest guest]

I thnk I 'm not going to run today cause during the week I basically

do cardio 6 times a week...and on Saturday I did two sessions of

cardio...so I think I 'm taking the day off!!

> I think it's an individual decision. Some do, some don't. Maggie

never seems

> to take much of a break, LOL... dunno about ... but I say if

you feel

> like it, go for it. Just don't feel OBLIGATED to work out on your

free day.

> If you FEEL like resting, let yourself... and don't feel guilty

about it!

>

> Good luck, and HTH!

> : )

> ~Lydia

>

> " Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving

safely in

> a pretty and well preserved body, but rather to skid in sideways,

thoroughly

> used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming 'Wow - what a

Ride!' "

> ~~ Sage (entrepreneur and speaker)

>

> running

>

> i was thinking about running today, but I decided not to..does

> anything think it would of been ok, I wouldnt have done HIIT but

> just done a medium high speed, or should you always have one day

> off??

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

Hey! That's not true. I've been slacking horribly for the nearly all

of this past week between challenges

I've eaten pretty clean (except for a bday party for a friend last

night when I dove into the chips and marshmallows, and had a piece of

chocolate cake) and today (official free day with lots of home-cooked

Asian food with lovely white rice, mint chocolate chip ice cream, and

a frosted sugar cookie), but I haven't run at all this week and only

did one LBWO and maybe 3 pilates style fitness tapes while I let my

left wrist and lower back recover.

I'm ready to jump back in tomorrow in full turbo mode, though! <18%

body fat or bust!

Back to the original question, I think if you feel like running on

your day off, go for it. It's your free day--you are free to lie in

bed all day OR go on a leisurely run to clear your head if that's your

thing. I'd avoid doing full HIIT or an intense weight training

session, but I doubt Bill would tell you not to go golfing,

play tennis, surf, or any other fun physical activity on your free

day.

Maggie

RE: running

Maggie never seems

to take much of a break, LOL...

: )

~Lydia