Guest guest Posted February 21, 2000 Report Share Posted February 21, 2000 What did you use for your gallstone flush? I need to do one, but wanted to get some opinions on what has worked/has not worked. Thanks in advance for your time. >From: " lin " <fwmill@...> >Reply-Dronelist ><Dronelist> >Subject: parasite cleanse >Date: Sun, 20 Feb 2000 08:37:31 -0600 >MIME-Version: 1.0 >Received: from [208.48.218.14] by hotmail.com (3.2) with ESMTP id >MHotMailBA7948190067D821979AD030DA0E333C27; Sun Feb 20 06:43:50 2000 >Received: from [10.1.10.36] by hl. with NNFMP; 20 Feb 2000 >14:38:15 -0000 >Received: (qmail 16536 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2000 14:38:09 -0000 >Received: from unknown (10.1.10.26) by m2.onelist.org with QMQP; 20 Feb >2000 14:38:09 -0000 >Received: from unknown (HELO c004.sfo.cp.net) (209.228.14.66) by >mta1.onelist.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2000 14:38:09 -0000 >Received: (cpmta 26881 invoked from network); 20 Feb 2000 06:49:07 -0800 >Received: from 1Cust96.tnt2.huntsville.al.da.uu.net (HELO oemcomputer) >(63.10.52.96) by smtp.peoplepc.com with SMTP; 20 Feb 2000 06:49:07 -0800 >From sentto-134727-385-scsummers Sun Feb 20 06:44:38 2000 >X-eGroups-Return: >sentto-134727-385-scsummers=hotmail.comreturns (DOT) onelist.com >X-Sent: 20 Feb 2000 14:49:07 GMT >Message-ID: <002e01bf7bb0$0698c900$60340a3f@oemcomputer> >X-Priority: 3 >X-MSMail-Priority: Normal >X-Mailer: Microsoft Outlook Express 5.00.2615.200 >X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.00.2615.200 >Mailing-List: list Dronelist; contact Dr-owneronelist >Delivered-mailing list Dronelist >Precedence: bulk >List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:Dr-unsubscribeonelist> >X-eGroups-From: " lin " <fwmill@...> > >from:frank miller, >has anyone used DrShultz's parasite cleanse #1and#2and if so what was their >side effects.after my gallstone flush i felt great until my thyroid started >actin up on the low side.i was using the dr shultz #1and#2.i felt >terriable.i quit using the parasite cleanser today and will wait and >see.any comments out there.thanks frank miller ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2000 Report Share Posted February 21, 2000 What did you use for your gallstone flush? I need to do one, but wanted to get some opinions on what has worked/has not worked. Thanks in advance for your time. >> Here is the URL. I have done it now three times. It worked for me. Hulda says it is the one most thing you can do for your health, good for cholesterol also. http://home.sol.no/~dusan/gallstones Jan.......Good Luck and you are welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 17, 2000 Report Share Posted March 17, 2000 Hi ...here on the Dr list, I can only speak to the Dr. parasite cleanse...and yes, I have felt terrible for much of the time on it...I took it to mean that it was working. Only in the last couple of weeks have things gotten better. My motto has been to hang in there, and so far, it has paid off. > from:frank miller, > has anyone used DrShultz's parasite cleanse #1and#2and if so what was their side effects.after my gallstone flush i felt great until my thyroid started actin up on the low side.i was using the dr shultz #1and#2.i felt terriable.i quit using the parasite cleanser today and will wait and see.any comments out there.thanks frank miller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 9, 2003 Report Share Posted May 9, 2003 Which book has the parasite cleansing protocol? I am still trying to locate it and the best place to purchase the herbs. thanks, Ken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Hi, I am new to this group and joined because I am looking for a good parasite cleanse. I was told Hulda 's protocol is the best, but there are so many companies out there selling it. Does it matter if the products are separate or all in one preparation? The ones I am looking at right now are: http://onelifeusa.com/health_news/CleanseKit.htm?gclid=CKCjt5qMlpkCFQZinAodtyb2Y\ w http://www.healthfoodemporium.com/prod_page.php?id=176 any thoughts on these or different suggestions? Also, is there a lab that accurately tests for parasites? Thanks, a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 9, 2009 Report Share Posted March 9, 2009 Just go to Drstore .com and order everything you need there. From: kotabuddy <kristina.carlton@...> Subject: parasite cleanse Dr Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 5:17 PM Hi, I am new to this group and joined because I am looking for a good parasite cleanse. I was told Hulda 's protocol is the best, but there are so many companies out there selling it. Does it matter if the products are separate or all in one preparation? The ones I am looking at right now are: http://onelifeusa. com/health_ news/CleanseKit. htm?gclid= CKCjt5qMlpkCFQZi nAodtyb2Yw http://www.healthfo odemporium. com/prod_ page.php? id=176 any thoughts on these or different suggestions? Also, is there a lab that accurately tests for parasites? Thanks, a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 10, 2009 Report Share Posted March 10, 2009 its so easy and far more economical to buy the ingredients and do your own cleanse formuls.  Black Walnut Tincture [aka BWT] is very expensive but you can buy BW powder and make a ticnture in a mere 2 weeks.  The other herbs are available at herb selling stores and far more reasonable than buying a packaged Parasite Cleanse.  more on request...  Nutricon - Luke From: kotabuddy <kristina.carlton@...> Subject: parasite cleanse Dr Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 3:17 PM Hi, I am new to this group and joined because I am looking for a good parasite cleanse. I was told Hulda 's protocol is the best, but there are so many companies out there selling it. Does it matter if the products are separate or all in one preparation? The ones I am looking at right now are: http://onelifeusa. com/health_ news/CleanseKit. htm?gclid= CKCjt5qMlpkCFQZi nAodtyb2Yw http://www.healthfo odemporium. com/prod_ page.php? id=176 any thoughts on these or different suggestions? Also, is there a lab that accurately tests for parasites? Thanks, a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 24, 2009 Report Share Posted December 24, 2009 I've never heard anything about it, nor exprienced any emotional unbalance from taking the higher doses of wormwood, dr clark recommends for persistent parasite killing. (I have done so several times) Wormwood has an undeserved bad reputaion amongst those not in the know, maybe your boy friends channeling that. There is how ever a limit to how much you should take. But as long as you stick to dr clark's doses, you should be fine. It's possible that the die-off of the parasites are upsetting your hormones, but that would more likely to happen if you had taken a high dose of wormwood for the very first time (or after a year of takeing noe at all) And then it would still be the dead and dying parsites that would be to blame for emotional upsets (messing with your hormones). Continuing with the wormwood would actualy make the problem go way, by killing the parsites dead and keeping then that way. Arwen At 10:34 24-12-2009, you wrote: > > >hello, how are you? have you ever heard of >anyone going kind of crazy from taking too much >wormwood? Lately ive been really depressed >always crying and bringing up terrible past >issues with my boyfriend. he thinks it is from >the herb because he read that too much of it can >cause irregular behaviour and bad things. If it >is truw i should lower my does i guess. As >always thank you for taking the time to read this!- > > > >From: willliam laurence <<mailto:wmlua06%40>wmlua06@...> >Subject: Re: Re: parasite cleanse ><mailto:Dr%40>Dr >Received: Wednesday, December 9, 2009, 2:44 PM > > > > is ON TRACK! Her 'opinion' is >factually based and thus verifiably correct! > > > >Its not a matter of whether or not we have >parasites;  its a matter of which ones we have >and how badly infested we are. And, yes they >are all but undectable, and most are not even >visible to the naked eye, much less able to be >discerned from their surroundings. By way of >example, its not difficult to 'wash' flukes >[large enough to actually see] out of the bowel >but it takes someone who understands them and >knows what to look for to 'see' them. And, if >you're only looking for tumors or Polyps you're >not going to be distracted by parasites.  > >As far as 'Doctors' [MDs] it is fact that they >have dramatically little education/ training in >Nutrition and the subject of Parasitology is equally ignored. > > > >I continue to be apalled at the lack of >knowledge of actual based Protocol on a >site that is supposed to [at least by >implication in name] espouse her life work. I >don't understand how anyone can stray so far >afield from her protocols and still claim her >association. Simple but in depth reading of >her books would negate any need for majority of >the queries that appear here in the Group postings. > > > >As far as the colon, [and this is just MY >opinion, albeit based of sound Medical and >Nutritional factual research,] a healthy colon >will neither develop polyps nor will it develop >Cancer. Keeping the colon healthy is well nigh >impossible in the confines of the society in >which we live and interact. A healthy colon is >not obtainable when body pH is kept acidic by >the % of animal protein we consume in our >society. And, parasites - like any other >pathology - absolutely thrive in acidic environments. > > > >And, as far as " Knowing " people have parasites, >sure is right! That some people have >parasites can be verified by simply observing >their appearance and certain physical >characteristics [facial skin, eyes, hair and >eyebrows, stomach, subtle odors that emanate >from the person, and even certain physical >actions and personality quirks]; in some >cases the parasites are identifiable by noting the foregoing.       > > > >Nutricon - Wm    > >From: <katran7xs (DOT) com> > >Subject: Re: parasite cleanse > >Dr@groups .com > >Date: Tuesday, December 8, 2009, 7:42 PM > > > > About the colonoscopy. .. I will never get >one... first the parasites will hide and be >disguised in your bowel lining. They only come >out when they die!!! They are not going to be >detected in a colonoscopy. That's just my >opinion. The stuff they make you drink just >cleans out the lower bowel. When " They " are >alive they look like part of your intestine they >blend in. I bet doctors don't even recognize >them. I know several people who have had >colonoscopies ... I KNOW THEY have parasites, >why wouldn't they ? The doctors gave them a >clean bill of health and were not told they have >them.. That is just a money making scheme the >doctors have everyone believing it will save >them from colon cancer but people die from it >all the time. I would love to help people see I >can't be the only one out there with >parasites... It's just very hard to kill them >off, since they have that cycle and do not want >to die. They will always be undetected when you do not try to > >kill them. I know I still have them but >eventually I will not. find me a doctor who believes this! Not out there? > >I wish you all heathy blessings!!! : ) > >Kat > > > >Reply to sender | Reply to group Messages in this topic (30) > >Recent Activity: > >New Members 4 > >Visit Your Group Start a New Topic > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 25, 2009 Report Share Posted December 25, 2009 thank you so much for replying! I agree with you that someone should not believe something just because they read it once . I have a zapper on the way thank goodness. I am getting it made , I hope it will be just as good as the bought ones which i cannot afford right now. hopefully later on though.. anywase I would love more info on this .. anything not to take drugs . which is all doctors want to give for depression. I also have been getting terrible headaches for the last 6 months that have been getting worse every week. Is that maybe another Candida symptom? I hate to ask you so much but I do trust you as you have helped ALOT with my stomach issues . Any tips I will follow. Thanks again - From: willliam laurence <wmlua06@...> Subject: Re: Re: parasite cleanse Dr Received: Friday, December 25, 2009, 9:11 PM  Hi -  nice to hear from you!  My comment: First, I have not enough information about you/your circumstances to address causes of your symptoms;  second, I am certain [w/ no disrespect to your BF] that  he''s in the same boat as I am: e.g. he has not enough information, if having only read something he's knowledgeable enough to make a determination as to whether you're taking too much WW.  Have we talked about Candida? that is what I'd peer into for starts. It will REALLY make you depressed and 'weepy'! Thar's not to say you're suffering from it but if as Dr Crook thinks, 80% of the population has it, I'd tend to start there as opposed to indicting an herb that perhaps only .8% [Note my estimate: 8 tenths of a percent] of the population takes regularly. Incidentally NO ONE should ever take an herb constantly without a two week break after a few months.  Some herbs, like dangerous Pharmeceutical drugs have 'side effects' and the propensity for depleting a person of minerals and vitamins.   Parasites however, can affect a persons mind in many ways. The crying is very strongly indicative of the possibility of  Clonorchis [and, its own parasite it appears to carry, Clostridium botulinum] which gets into the Thalamus of the brain. [yes, sounds wierd but its documented! ]  Wormwood won't touch that, but bio-electric medicine will in my own opinion and experience.  If you want more info pls get back. In any case Dr. never proferred any caveats about wormwood to my knowldege.   Perhaps your BF might entertain a respectful suggestion from someone who has studied these matters for longer than he has probably been alive and do some serious research and study before advancing opinions based only on what he has read.  When I 'read something' I immediately research it for  validation from others before I accept it. Most of what we read is inadequately researched and much more is downright erroneous..  regards,  Nutricon wm hello, how are you? have you ever heard of anyone going kind of crazy from taking too much wormwood? Lately ive been really depressed always crying and bringing up terrible past issues with my boyfriend. he thinks it is from the herb because he read that too much of it can cause irregular behaviour and bad things. If it is truw i should lower my does i guess. As always thank you for taking the time to read this!-  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Thanks for your reply Kat! Its good to know when others have the same problems as you.. Does a yeast problem mean that I cannot put yeast in my bread too? Or just not eat sugar ? Thanks again! I want to try everything to feel good! From: <katran7xs@...> Subject: Re: parasite cleanse Dr Received: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 6:27 PM  Hi , I am sorry I haven't been here sooner. I am not an expert on health issues. But my experiences have lead me to have strong opinions. I do have the book The Yeast connection and women by Dr. Crook. I think it could be related to yeast! And If you are consuming sugar? And or moldy foods as stated in the book... this could make you worse. I took the herbs with breaks for nearly eight years, I had some emotional issues but it was related to the die-off. I was worse emotionally before any cleansing It should pass as you eliminate the toxins. Your Diet is important And grapefruit seed extract is great for helping with Candida. Another book I have states this. When you start on the grapefruit seed extract you will have an increased emotional depression, form the die-off but it will regulate as your system gets healthier. I would like to learn more about health, I read books but some do not make sense, especially since parasites and pollution are the cause of all illness! I love the book The cure for all deceases... Dr. 's research has taught me so much. It make so much sense to me!! People just do not believe they have parasites and it takes years on the herbs to kill them. I Have so many things to say but do not have the time now... I will be back! , I have a question... What Is bio-electric Medicine? Thank you for commenting on my earlier post. You are the first person who might understand my strong opinions. I have had many an argument with MD's and therefore do not go. And What is Nutricon? Thank you so much! Happy New Year everyone! Kat > > Hi - >  > nice to hear from you! >  > My comment: > > First, I have not enough information about you/your circumstances to address causes of your symptoms; >  > second, I am certain [w/ no disrespect to your BF] that  he''s in the same boat as I am: e.g. he has not enough information, if having only read something he's knowledgeable enough to make a determination as to whether you're taking too much WW. >  > Have we talked about Candida? that is what I'd peer into for starts. It will REALLY make you depressed and 'weepy'! Thar's not to say you're suffering from it but if as Dr Crook thinks, 80% of the population has it, I'd tend to start there as opposed to indicting an herb that perhaps only .8% [Note my estimate: 8 tenths of a percent] of the population takes regularly. Incidentally NO ONE should ever take an herb constantly without a two week break after a few months.  Some herbs, like dangerous Pharmeceutical drugs have 'side effects' and the propensity for depleting a person of minerals and vitamins. >   > Parasites however, can affect a persons mind in many ways. The crying is very strongly indicative of the possibility of  Clonorchis [and, its own parasite it appears to carry, Clostridium botulinum] which gets into the Thalamus of the brain. [yes, sounds wierd but its documented! ]  Wormwood won't touch that, but bio-electric medicine will in my own opinion and experience. >  > If you want more info pls get back. In any case Dr. never proferred any caveats about wormwood to my knowldege.  >  > Perhaps your BF might entertain a respectful suggestion from someone who has studied these matters for longer than he has probably been alive and do some serious research and study before advancing opinions based only on what he has read.  When I 'read something' I immediately research it for  validation from others before I accept it. Most of what we read is inadequately researched and much more is downright erroneous. >  > regards, >  > Nutricon wm > > > > > > hello, how are you? have you ever heard of anyone going kind of crazy from taking too much wormwood? Lately ive been really depressed always crying and bringing up terrible past issues with my boyfriend. he thinks it is from the herb because he read that too much of it can cause irregular behaviour and bad things. If it is truw i should lower my does i guess. As always thank you for taking the time to read this!- > > >  > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 26, 2009 Report Share Posted December 26, 2009 Seasons Greetings, , you have reminded me of some questions I've been meaning to ask, but time has prevented. 1) Dr. has concluded that the adenovirus which causes most " colds " is not OUR virus, thus many of the precautions we hear about do not necessarily apply, (e.g. don't get out in the cold, being around others with colds, etc.). She stated in an article " Colds, Molds, Flu & Fever from The Cure for All Diseases " posted on livingnetwork.co.za , that even zapping the common cold virus can be rid of a cold in 5 minutes, but then reappear a few hrs. later, and that homeopathy can immediatley banish the symptoms. But she says then the cold reappears later in a different location. She starts out about " The fascinating story of how we really " catch' a cold kept me spellbound for a year. I was hot on the heels of Adenovirus whereever it might be....Sometimes I saw it; sometimes I didn't. Sometimes I could zap it; sometimes it did not go. It is now apparent to me tha Adenovirus isn't our (a human) virus at all! It belongs to toerh parasites .. as varied as tapeworm stages and mites. " She notes that tapeworm stages fly in the dust and can evidence it by frequency ... also likely on kitchen sponges, etc. " And everyone " catches " colds. if you search for Adenovirus though, in your dust sample, it isn't there! " She explains how it is in the dust, and in the mites but not detectable till it multiplies and creates a loud chorus .. but it will ..but " You must, of course, first eat or inhale the dust.: So then the tape eggs hatch .. she talks about following then into the various organs which allow the tsysticercus stage to enter .. and states " If you are only listening to its beeps, you can't. If you can do both, you may be able to see which organ allows the virus to replicate after it emerges. Maybe only the respiratory organs do; mayabe they start to replicate in the organ where they emerge .. and then get to the respiratory tract. This is a afascinating avenue I havae not yet explored. " She goes on to show how as soon as the carrier host, (worm or mite or ??) dies, thats when their beeps disappear, presumably dead. Except in case of disease where diseased muscles take in the newcomer & allo it to survive when immune system down. Then significantly, she noted that " On the day that the mite stops beeping, the day it dies, Adenovirus appears " . Not in numbers and no symptoms. But if one follows the stages she advised to " kill your tapeworm stage or mite by zapping ... within minutes after that .. the beeping .. is gone and Adenovirus can be heard loud and clear at 393 KHz. And minutes later you may feel a stuffy nose, a slight congestion deveoping....You are catching a cold! " She follows her evidence then: " After seeing this happen dozens of times after killing a mite or rapeworm ..I concluded that Adenovirus really belongs to them; the virus is scuttling its dying host like people jumping off a sinking ship .. Our bodies are the ocean for the. .. Our respiratory tract is [a hospitable island], perhaps other organs, too. " Now ... here is where the mold enters this picture by her evidence: " Yes this " baby cold " will develop into a full blown cold if, but only if, you have a mold in you. " At stage two she says " Your immune system can keep up with them quite easily provided you don't have a mold in you at the same time. The significance of the mold is that it lowers your immunity, specifically and generally. " (Emphasis added herein). It is that which allows the fleeing Adenovirus to survive and get to its favorite organ, giving ecoli as example when it stays in colon .. ok..but if it invades the body, the white blood cells (healthy) kill it, and after that the Adenovirus appears & again you are catching a cold. " One place you do feel an attack is in your respiratory tract .. And the size of the attack depends on whether you recently ate moldy food. " You have to eat moldy food first. This lowers your immuniyt, allowing ...Adenovirus to invade your weakest tissues. " Those same " cold " symptoms can be caused by bacteria, for which I have preliminary evidence of arriving in a similar fashion. " " The best advice to stop a cold is to: 1. Eat sterile food for 24 hours. Follow the Mold Free Diet on page 365. .... 2. Vitamin C, ...a B50 complex .. and niacinamide .. to help detoxify the mycotoxins .. It will take five or six hours for your white blood cells to recover their ability to capture viruses, for the " gag " to wear off. 3. Zap ... 4. ... wait for ..tissues to decongest and stop making mucous,.. 5. Immediately start the Bowel Program inn case yours is an E.coli cold. You can't and wouldn't want to, kill all the bacteria in your bowel. 6. Do additional zapping as time permits ... In five or six hours your cold could be gone. " Of all these measures, stopping mold consumption is the most important. ..... " Test yourself for the presence of molds .. The various molds I have tested had these emitting frequencies: 77, 88, 126, 133, 177, 181, 188, 232, 242, 277, 288, 295 KHz. " Part of my questioning here is in regards to whether Dr. had ever considered the helpfulness of kefir to present a system wide " inhospitable environment " for pathogens such as ecoli, salmonella, etc. ? These have been otherwise proven in that regard, and moreso as more food scientists become knowledgeable about kefir and its beneficial microflora and ability to kill pathogens as bacteriocins and with the right negative/positive balance, and acid/alkaline along with pre and probiotics in that mix to do so. I think these are important questions to consider for the total body health .. the immune system's maintenance to handle these parasites and viruses. I do not see conflict with her findings and to a large extent with her conclusions and teachings, but rather see that she has been a real pioneer who has put out, as you've noted, solid and verifiable evidence so far as findings are concerned. I've also noticed that she was curious real scientist enough to investigate new anomolies, and honest difference with possible conclusions, or to look at alternatives. Where I'm wondering if kefir might have some potential benefits of kefir which haven't been heretofore considered is also raised by further in that article and some of her other teachings re. the " flu " . She states; " Influenza is a virus that can cause " the flu. " Does it belong to us as humans or to a larger parasite we are hosting? " .. " However, much that is called " flu " is actually caused by a bacterium, either Salmonella or Shigella. If someone in your family is " catching " a flu, test their saliva for the presence of dairy products, implicating the Salmonellas and Shigella. Also .. for influenza A, B, and C. ... Go straight to the refrigerator and throw away all dairy products. ... You may wish to identify the food source of your family's bacteria first, and save the uncontaminated food " I have pondered her advices concerning dairy products as well as the whole arguments on the net, and my life experiences, re. raw milk vs. pasteurized and how beneficial products like kefirized raw milk play into it. I fully believe that living overpasteurized and sterile lives is not only impossible, but folly. Pasteurized milk I believe is one of those evils precisely because it lays down a seemingly sterile product but which is actually prone to allowing ecoli, salmonella and shigella, listeria, etc. all to run rampant once exposed to them, while simultaneously depriving the humans of the benefits of well-seeded and thriving microflora of all kinds .. leading to the plethora of digestive problems, and proliferation of " the baddies " (my word) . Although she states to throw out all dairy products, including yogurt, she does qualify that with an important " You may wish to identify .. " first. I have noticed in her books that she allows the Mexican cream in some of her cures. I wonder if the ozonation, plate zapping etc. of raw dairy would not be as destructive of the good bacteria as pasteurization. It has been noted by her that many of the " baddies " (my word), are, I believe her word was " clumsy " and easily killed by starving them and their environment. This is where I see kefir as having an important role. There are studies being done which not only detail as many as 57, (my count possibly missing some subspecies), of beneficial microflora in kefir and which detail several ways their action in the body both kills " the baddies " AND starves and provides inhospitable environment. I know, as a fellow lawyer, you like evidence as well as I do to consider. Here are some specific studies and then lastly, the website of the person I think of as the unsung hero of kefirdom who has much history, background and all kinds of research facts, experience and experiments of his own in case you care to investigate further. You may view, download and print the pdf. document at (where I counted): > http://etd.sun.ac.za/jspui/bitstream/10019/113/1/PowJE.pdf Then: re. another I did not get the name of the publication but wrote this summary of some relevant parts to another person re. the kefir bacteria study where I had part of the abstract with the email contact for the study given at the end of my post. My post will be between the two lines for clarity to separate it from the above reference and the one follwiing of the guru. _____________________________________________________________ I would suggest getting kefir grains (traditional), making kefir as it has plenty of pre and probiotics which act as bacterocins according to some studies I've read recently. I know it has helped my IBS and GERD of many years standing. It builds up our whole system with healthy microflora. Dr. Oz was recently expounding on the tremendous volumn of probiotics etc. in a healthy gut and how that affects one whole system. One of the recent studies I read stated that it was based on the microflora of vaginal fluid of " healthy women " where 4 strains of their lactobacilla were tested against antibiotic resistant and problematic pathogens, specifically: " Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 25923, Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) ATCC 39592, Pseudomonas aeruginosa ATCC 27853 and E. coli ATCC 25922 " . I didn't get the name of the publication but an email contact for the study was given as: E-mail: std@... . I thought their test strains sounded like typical kefir lactobacilli and I checked them and they were. ___________________________________________________________ Dominic N Anfiteatro. > His links, recipes, and FAQs on various cultures & ferments provide references and partial bibliographies. http://users.sa.chariot.net.au/~dna/kefirpage.html I know this is a lengthy post but have had the question of the reconciliation of the kefir wisdoms with Dr. 's evidences and mostly, I guess, some of what may have been her conclusions, although I do not have that full picture, and I suspect they were dynamic and fluid depending on the presentation of facts and evidence too. The other BIG area which I still don't have reconciled in my own mind as to WHY the disparity between her conclusions re. onions, mustard, garlics, etc. where she states firmly to never use them, (although in the context of the 2 week cancer-cure) and some other places. BUT, on the other hand, there are numerous other docs " out there " whom I greatly respect also, and the use of garlic and honey for many purposes anti-viral, anti-parasitic etc. seem equally well documented. How to harmonize? I realize I am probably missing some important clues as to why it seems to conflict. I realize this is lengthy. Took me quite awhile to compile too. I believe these are important areas of health and wellness at least for me to get resolved and others wisdom is appreciated. Joyce Simmerman There is ALWAYS a " BETTER WAY " ! WE can find & make ITa " Cradle for Humanity " ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Dear Joyce [JD] thank you for the most poignant posting. I'm still digesting those points. I have another friend here and we get together now and then to discuss and probe these matters. She is digesting the newer books and has presented some astounding reversals in Dr. 's conclusions about a number of things. Several are things I have wondered about also. I have such mixed emotions about Homeopathy; I 'hung in there' with Apex for several years and finally gave up.   Yes, I have seen 'colds' disappear in a matter of a few minutes to a few hours, however in some few cases only to return later. I have read and RE-read those matters on colds but am still rather perplexed, but always pragmatic about further explorations. I have little experience with the Syncrometer - when I began my Mentor became unavailable just as I was getting grounded. I'd so like to pick up on those experiments again.  I theorize that some parasites may emit different levels of Syncrometer frequency sounds, my own experience with a dangerous parasite that I had no idea I could have had emitting a long and loud " whoooooooo " . Any thoughts?  And why, when you detect a parasite with a potential to have its " own parasites " can't we get their emission? Does the carrier organism insulate its parasites from the current? Seems unlikely, but its kind of like a Hearing ... NEVER assume  anything!  I've also have many thoughts about mold: some people seem never to be affected by it. Others can almost die. A year or more ago I had someone very close to me stricken with horrible heart problems [runaway beats/minute] resulting from cleaning up a pigeon dung mess. The guy who helped him was unaffected. This person's malady was unaffected by the Md's treatment and only when he was desperate and nothing worked did he venture into Bio-Elect; after only a few days the Dr-s announced that his heartbeat " spontaneously returned to normal " . I simply guessed at the several possible pathogens that target the heart and it worked.  You're correct and we are on the same frequency about Dr. never [as far as I know] delved into things like Kefir [and btw, Rejuvelac from which I am currently experiencing great benefits] but  I am unaware of whether she mentioned any research into body pH; unfortunately it also appears she was to some degree unconcerned about nutrition in general, it having been stated publicly by someone close to her that a certain trash food restaurant chain was " her favorite " .. I do however say this pragmatically and with no disrespect or rancor since without her work I'd probably not be here. I am definitely of the same mind about her as you exemplify in your thought provoking post. Another very significant protocol she seemed to ignore is the Blood Type factor.  One thing for sure, Parasites are omnipresent and we cannot avoid them. All we can [if we are sensible] is to keep our systems as pollutant free as possible, maintain an alkaline balance by prudent food intake management and try to keep our Immune systems functioning.  Mexican cream, btw, is more natural since it is not tampered with. Almost ALL of our available dairy products are tampered with and in most cases ruined, and yes even by many so called " Organic dairies " .  One will never be able to grasp this concept unless he/she has 1. been around natural dairy animals, and 2 done a serious history examination of what Louis Pasteur REALLY did and preached; he has been sadly and grossly misrepresented!  I can state this authoritatively as a former goat breeder who raised two children on raw goats milk [far better than 'Cow' [baddie word] dairy products We still consume only raw goats milk and about half of what we  get is made into Kefir. We had our Does' milk rested regularly by the County Health Dept and the bacteria count was always far below that permitted by law state Regulations and thus below that of the local dairies. I also make Sauer Kraut [from Organic cabbage] and Rejuvelac. So, it is with enthusiasm that I laud you and thank you for the web site info on Kefir. That commonality having been established what is your take on Kombucha tea? In any case we seem to have similarly based questions.  They go On and ON! The picture is far greater that most of us who have other necessary pursuits are able to contemplate or research justicably!  I appreciate your comments and pragmatism and am honored to consider you as a 'resource'! Feel free to contact me any time  regards,  wm                             , you have reminded me of some questions I've been meaning to ask, but time has prevented. 1) Dr. has concluded that the adenovirus which causes most " colds " is not OUR virus, thus many of the precautions we hear about do not necessarily apply, (e.g. don't get out in the cold, being around others with colds, etc.). She stated in an article " Colds, Molds, Flu & Fever from The Cure for All Diseases " posted on livingnetwork. co.za , that even zapping the common cold virus can be rid of a cold in 5 minutes, but then reappear a few hrs. later, and that homeopathy can immediatley banish the symptoms. But she says then the cold reappears later in a different location. She starts out about " The fascinating story of how we really " catch' a cold kept me spellbound for a year. I was hot on the heels of Adenovirus whereever it might be....Sometimes I saw it; sometimes I didn't. Sometimes I could zap it; sometimes it did not go. It is now apparent to me tha Adenovirus isn't our (a human) virus at all! It belongs to toerh parasites .. as varied as tapeworm stages and mites. " She notes that tapeworm stages fly in the dust and can evidence it by frequency ... also likely on kitchen sponges, etc. " And everyone " catches " colds. if you search for Adenovirus though, in your dust sample, it isn't there! " She explains how it is in the dust, and in the mites but not detectable till it multiplies and creates a loud chorus .. but it will ..but " You must, of course, first eat or inhale the dust.: So then the tape eggs hatch .. she talks about following then into the various organs which allow the tsysticercus stage to enter .. and states " If you are only listening to its beeps, you can't. If you can do both, you may be able to see which organ allows the virus to replicate after it emerges. Maybe only the respiratory organs do; mayabe they start to replicate in the organ where they emerge .. and then get to the respiratory tract. This is a afascinating avenue I havae not yet explored. " She goes on to show how as soon as the carrier host, (worm or mite or ??) dies, thats when their beeps disappear, presumably dead. Except in case of disease where diseased muscles take in the newcomer & allo it to survive when immune system down. Then significantly, she noted that " On the day that the mite stops beeping, the day it dies, Adenovirus appears " . Not in numbers and no symptoms. But if one follows the stages she advised to " kill your tapeworm stage or mite by zapping ... within minutes after that .. the beeping .. is gone and Adenovirus can be heard loud and clear at 393 KHz. And minutes later you may feel a stuffy nose, a slight congestion deveoping... .You are catching a cold! " She follows her evidence then: " After seeing this happen dozens of times after killing a mite or rapeworm ..I concluded that Adenovirus really belongs to them; the virus is scuttling its dying host like people jumping off a sinking ship .. Our bodies are the ocean for the. .. Our respiratory tract is [a hospitable island], perhaps other organs, too. " Now ... here is where the mold enters this picture by her evidence: " Yes this " baby cold " will develop into a full blown cold if, but only if, you have a mold in you. " At stage two she says " Your immune system can keep up with them quite easily provided you don't have a mold in you at the same time. The significance of the mold is that it lowers your immunity, specifically and generally. " (Emphasis added herein). It is that which allows the fleeing Adenovirus to survive and get to its favorite organ, giving ecoli as example when it stays in colon .. ok..but if it invades the body, the white blood cells (healthy) kill it, and after that the Adenovirus appears & again you are catching a cold. " One place you do feel an attack is in your respiratory tract .. And the size of the attack depends on whether you recently ate moldy food. " You have to eat moldy food first. This lowers your immuniyt, allowing ...Adenovirus to invade your weakest tissues. " Those same " cold " symptoms can be caused by bacteria, for which I have preliminary evidence of arriving in a similar fashion. " " The best advice to stop a cold is to: 1. Eat sterile food for 24 hours. Follow the Mold Free Diet on page 365. .... 2. Vitamin C, ...a B50 complex .. and niacinamide .. to help detoxify the mycotoxins .. It will take five or six hours for your white blood cells to recover their ability to capture viruses, for the " gag " to wear off. 3. Zap ... 4. ... wait for ..tissues to decongest and stop making mucous,.. 5. Immediately start the Bowel Program inn case yours is an E.coli cold. You can't and wouldn't want to, kill all the bacteria in your bowel. 6. Do additional zapping as time permits ... In five or six hours your cold could be gone. " Of all these measures, stopping mold consumption is the most important. ..... " Test yourself for the presence of molds .. The various molds I have tested had these emitting frequencies: 77, 88, 126, 133, 177, 181, 188, 232, 242, 277, 288, 295 KHz. " Part of my questioning here is in regards to whether Dr. had ever considered the helpfulness of kefir to present a system wide " inhospitable environment " for pathogens such as ecoli, salmonella, etc. ? These have been otherwise proven in that regard, and moreso as more food scientists become knowledgeable about kefir and its beneficial microflora and ability to kill pathogens as bacteriocins and with the right negative/positive balance, and acid/alkaline along with pre and probiotics in that mix to do so. I think these are important questions to consider for the total body health .. the immune system's maintenance to handle these parasites and viruses. I do not see conflict with her findings and to a large extent with her conclusions and teachings, but rather see that she has been a real pioneer who has put out, as you've noted, solid and verifiable evidence so far as findings are concerned. I've also noticed that she was curious real scientist enough to investigate new anomolies, and honest difference with possible conclusions, or to look at alternatives. Where I'm wondering if kefir might have some potential benefits of kefir which haven't been heretofore considered is also raised by further in that article and some of her other teachings re. the " flu " . She states; " Influenza is a virus that can cause " the flu. " Does it belong to us as humans or to a larger parasite we are hosting? " .. " However, much that is called " flu " is actually caused by a bacterium, either Salmonella or Shigella. If someone in your family is " catching " a flu, test their saliva for the presence of dairy products, implicating the Salmonellas and Shigella. Also .. for influenza A, B, and C. ... Go straight to the refrigerator and throw away all dairy products. ... You may wish to identify the food source of your family's bacteria first, and save the uncontaminated food " I have pondered her advices concerning dairy products as well as the whole arguments on the net, and my life experiences, re. raw milk vs. pasteurized and how beneficial products like kefirized raw milk play into it. I fully believe that living overpasteurized and sterile lives is not only impossible, but folly. Pasteurized milk I believe is one of those evils precisely because it lays down a seemingly sterile product but which is actually prone to allowing ecoli, salmonella and shigella, listeria, etc. all to run rampant once exposed to them, while simultaneously depriving the humans of the benefits of well-seeded and thriving microflora of all kinds .. leading to the plethora of digestive problems, and proliferation of " the baddies " (my word) . Although she states to throw out all dairy products, including yogurt, she does qualify that with an important " You may wish to identify .. " first. I have noticed in her books that she allows the Mexican cream in some of her cures. I wonder if the ozonation, plate zapping etc. of raw dairy would not be as destructive of the good bacteria as pasteurization. It has been noted by her that many of the " baddies " (my word), are, I believe her word was " clumsy " and easily killed by starving them and their environment. This is where I see kefir as having an important role. There are studies being done which not only detail as many as 57, (my count possibly missing some subspecies), of beneficial microflora in kefir and which detail several ways their action in the body both kills " the baddies " AND starves and provides inhospitable environment. I know, as a fellow lawyer, you like evidence as well as I do to consider. Here are some specific studies and then lastly, the website of the person I think of as the unsung hero of kefirdom who has much history, background and all kinds of research facts, experience and experiments of his own in case you care to investigate further. You may view, download and print the pdf. document at (where I counted): > http://etd.sun. ac.za/jspui/ bitstream/ 10019/113/ 1/PowJE.pdf Then: re. another I did not get the name of the publication but wrote this summary of some relevant parts to another person re. the kefir bacteria study where I had part of the abstract with the email contact for the study given at the end of my post. My post will be between the two lines for clarity to separate it from the above reference and the one follwiing of the guru. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ I would suggest getting kefir grains (traditional) , making kefir as it has plenty of pre and probiotics which act as bacterocins according to some studies I've read recently. I know it has helped my IBS and GERD of many years standing. It builds up our whole system with healthy microflora. Dr. Oz was recently expounding on the tremendous volumn of probiotics etc. in a healthy gut and how that affects one whole system. One of the recent studies I read stated that it was based on the microflora of vaginal fluid of " healthy women " where 4 strains of their lactobacilla were tested against antibiotic resistant and problematic pathogens, specifically: " Staphylococcus aureus ATCC 25923, Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) ATCC 39592, Pseudomonas aeruginosa ATCC 27853 and E. coli ATCC 25922 " . I didn't get the name of the publication but an email contact for the study was given as: E-mail: stdmicrobio (DOT) bas.bg . I thought their test strains sounded like typical kefir lactobacilli and I checked them and they were. ____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _ Dominic N Anfiteatro. > His links, recipes, and FAQs on various cultures & ferments provide references and partial bibliographies. http://users. sa.chariot. net.au/~dna/ kefirpage. html I know this is a lengthy post but have had the question of the reconciliation of the kefir wisdoms with Dr. 's evidences and mostly, I guess, some of what may have been her conclusions, although I do not have that full picture, and I suspect they were dynamic and fluid depending on the presentation of facts and evidence too. The other BIG area which I still don't have reconciled in my own mind as to WHY the disparity between her conclusions re. onions, mustard, garlics, etc. where she states firmly to never use them, (although in the context of the 2 week cancer-cure) and some other places. BUT, on the other hand, there are numerous other docs " out there " whom I greatly respect also, and the use of garlic and honey for many purposes anti-viral, anti-parasitic etc. seem equally well documented. How to harmonize? I realize I am probably missing some important clues as to why it seems to conflict. I realize this is lengthy. Took me quite awhile to compile too. I believe these are important areas of health and wellness at least for me to get resolved and others wisdom is appreciated. Joyce Simmerman There is ALWAYS a " BETTER WAY " ! WE can find & make ITa " Cradle for Humanity " ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 Hi both of you [and the Group!]  Bio-Electric medicine espouses Dr. s protocols [zapper, syncrometer and the offshoots therefrom] although we should not assume that she was the first Bio-electric pioneer who was, to the best of my knowledge and understanding Dr. Becker [am MD] who succeeded in bone regrowth in the 1940s and has recently completed a new book on magnetism. It also includes Dr Bob Beck, a Dr. of Electronics [recently deceased] and whose bio-electric pulsing device didn't CURE anything but did disperse AIDS in documented cases. I supppose we should includeRoyal Rife though there is so little available about his work and so much that is done in his name that is not grounded in his actual work. He was a an extremely brilliant microscopist at the least and a cancer researcher who used only Radio Frequencies [to my knowledge]  in his electric experiments. Ther are many others.  Nutricon is my Fledgling Holistic Entity through which I do Holistic Consulting and in some instances offer a few products on a limited basis.  I am rather resolute in that there only a few food supplemets that are of any value and many are downright harmful.  We share similar views and I avoid MDs as well. My own opinions [ONLY] are that our system is probably the best in the world for catastrophic accidents and trauma. Its the worst for basic health.   regards,  wm  From: <katran7xs@...> Subject: Re: parasite cleanse Dr Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 11:27 AM  Hi , I am sorry I haven't been here sooner. I am not an expert on health issues. But my experiences have lead me to have strong opinions. I do have the book The Yeast connection and women by Dr. Crook. I think it could be related to yeast! And If you are consuming sugar? And or moldy foods as stated in the book... this could make you worse. I took the herbs with breaks for nearly eight years, I had some emotional issues but it was related to the die-off. I was worse emotionally before any cleansing It should pass as you eliminate the toxins. Your Diet is important And grapefruit seed extract is great for helping with Candida. Another book I have states this. When you start on the grapefruit seed extract you will have an increased emotional depression, form the die-off but it will regulate as your system gets healthier. I would like to learn more about health, I read books but some do not make sense, especially since parasites and pollution are the cause of all illness! I love the book The cure for all deceases... Dr. 's research has taught me so much. It make so much sense to me!! People just do not believe they have parasites and it takes years on the herbs to kill them. I Have so many things to say but do not have the time now... I will be back! , I have a question... What Is bio-electric Medicine? Thank you for commenting on my earlier post. You are the first person who might understand my strong opinions. I have had many an argument with MD's and therefore do not go. And What is Nutricon? Thank you so much! Happy New Year everyone! Kat > > Hi - >  > nice to hear from you! >  > My comment: > > First, I have not enough information about you/your circumstances to address causes of your symptoms; >  > second, I am certain [w/ no disrespect to your BF] that  he''s in the same boat as I am: e.g. he has not enough information, if having only read something he's knowledgeable enough to make a determination as to whether you're taking too much WW. >  > Have we talked about Candida? that is what I'd peer into for starts. It will REALLY make you depressed and 'weepy'! Thar's not to say you're suffering from it but if as Dr Crook thinks, 80% of the population has it, I'd tend to start there as opposed to indicting an herb that perhaps only .8% [Note my estimate: 8 tenths of a percent] of the population takes regularly. Incidentally NO ONE should ever take an herb constantly without a two week break after a few months.  Some herbs, like dangerous Pharmeceutical drugs have 'side effects' and the propensity for depleting a person of minerals and vitamins. >   > Parasites however, can affect a persons mind in many ways. The crying is very strongly indicative of the possibility of  Clonorchis [and, its own parasite it appears to carry, Clostridium botulinum] which gets into the Thalamus of the brain. [yes, sounds wierd but its documented! ]  Wormwood won't touch that, but bio-electric medicine will in my own opinion and experience. >  > If you want more info pls get back. In any case Dr. never proferred any caveats about wormwood to my knowldege.  >  > Perhaps your BF might entertain a respectful suggestion from someone who has studied these matters for longer than he has probably been alive and do some serious research and study before advancing opinions based only on what he has read.  When I 'read something' I immediately research it for  validation from others before I accept it. Most of what we read is inadequately researched and much more is downright erroneous. >  > regards, >  > Nutricon wm > > > > > > hello, how are you? have you ever heard of anyone going kind of crazy from taking too much wormwood? Lately ive been really depressed always crying and bringing up terrible past issues with my boyfriend. he thinks it is from the herb because he read that too much of it can cause irregular behaviour and bad things. If it is truw i should lower my does i guess. As always thank you for taking the time to read this!- > > >  > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 thank you for the warm words on help with stomach issues.  if you'll fill out and return my CA questionairre I'll supply you a copy.  Wm From: willliam laurence <wmlua06 (DOT) com> Subject: Re: Re: parasite cleanse Dr@groups .com Received: Friday, December 25, 2009, 9:11 PM  Hi -  nice to hear from you!  My comment: First, I have not enough information about you/your circumstances to address causes of your symptoms;  second, I am certain [w/ no disrespect to your BF] that  he''s in the same boat as I am: e.g. he has not enough information, if having only read something he's knowledgeable enough to make a determination as to whether you're taking too much WW.  Have we talked about Candida? that is what I'd peer into for starts. It will REALLY make you depressed and 'weepy'! Thar's not to say you're suffering from it but if as Dr Crook thinks, 80% of the population has it, I'd tend to start there as opposed to indicting an herb that perhaps only .8% [Note my estimate: 8 tenths of a percent] of the population takes regularly. Incidentally NO ONE should ever take an herb constantly without a two week break after a few months.  Some herbs, like dangerous Pharmeceutical drugs have 'side effects' and the propensity for depleting a person of minerals and vitamins.   Parasites however, can affect a persons mind in many ways. The crying is very strongly indicative of the possibility of  Clonorchis [and, its own parasite it appears to carry, Clostridium botulinum] which gets into the Thalamus of the brain. [yes, sounds wierd but its documented! ]  Wormwood won't touch that, but bio-electric medicine will in my own opinion and experience.  If you want more info pls get back. In any case Dr. never proferred any caveats about wormwood to my knowldege.   Perhaps your BF might entertain a respectful suggestion from someone who has studied these matters for longer than he has probably been alive and do some serious research and study before advancing opinions based only on what he has read.  When I 'read something' I immediately research it for  validation from others before I accept it. Most of what we read is inadequately researched and much more is downright erroneous..  regards,  Nutricon wm hello, how are you? have you ever heard of anyone going kind of crazy from taking too much wormwood? Lately ive been really depressed always crying and bringing up terrible past issues with my boyfriend. he thinks it is from the herb because he read that too much of it can cause irregular behaviour and bad things. If it is truw i should lower my does i guess. As always thank you for taking the time to read this!-  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 28, 2009 Report Share Posted December 28, 2009 i will definatly fill out a copy. thanks! From: willliam laurence <wmlua06 (DOT) com> Subject: Re: Re: parasite cleanse Dr@groups .com Received: Friday, December 25, 2009, 9:11 PM  Hi -  nice to hear from you!  My comment: First, I have not enough information about you/your circumstances to address causes of your symptoms;  second, I am certain [w/ no disrespect to your BF] that  he''s in the same boat as I am: e.g. he has not enough information, if having only read something he's knowledgeable enough to make a determination as to whether you're taking too much WW.  Have we talked about Candida? that is what I'd peer into for starts. It will REALLY make you depressed and 'weepy'! Thar's not to say you're suffering from it but if as Dr Crook thinks, 80% of the population has it, I'd tend to start there as opposed to indicting an herb that perhaps only .8% [Note my estimate: 8 tenths of a percent] of the population takes regularly. Incidentally NO ONE should ever take an herb constantly without a two week break after a few months.  Some herbs, like dangerous Pharmeceutical drugs have 'side effects' and the propensity for depleting a person of minerals and vitamins.   Parasites however, can affect a persons mind in many ways. The crying is very strongly indicative of the possibility of  Clonorchis [and, its own parasite it appears to carry, Clostridium botulinum] which gets into the Thalamus of the brain. [yes, sounds wierd but its documented! ]  Wormwood won't touch that, but bio-electric medicine will in my own opinion and experience.  If you want more info pls get back. In any case Dr. never proferred any caveats about wormwood to my knowldege.   Perhaps your BF might entertain a respectful suggestion from someone who has studied these matters for longer than he has probably been alive and do some serious research and study before advancing opinions based only on what he has read.  When I 'read something' I immediately research it for  validation from others before I accept it. Most of what we read is inadequately researched and much more is downright erroneous...  regards,  Nutricon wm hello, how are you? have you ever heard of anyone going kind of crazy from taking too much wormwood? Lately ive been really depressed always crying and bringing up terrible past issues with my boyfriend. he thinks it is from the herb because he read that too much of it can cause irregular behaviour and bad things. If it is truw i should lower my does i guess. As always thank you for taking the time to read this!-  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2010 Report Share Posted January 12, 2010 yes actually i have. your emotions are tied or connected to the things such as parasites that live in your body. so when you kill the parasites or other things it brings the emotions to the surface and you are forced to deal with what you have stuffed inside in the past. i get this from time to time. it may also come out in the form of a dream. sometimes i dream of something i haven't thought about in 40 years. where did that come from? so when you get emotional and cry it's a good thing because you're bringing it to the surface. make sense? > > At 10:34 24-12-2009, you wrote: > > > > > >hello, how are you? have you ever heard of > >anyone going kind of crazy from taking too much > >wormwood? Lately ive been really depressed > >always crying and bringing up terrible past > >issues with my boyfriend. he thinks it is from > >the herb because he read that too much of it can > >cause irregular behaviour and bad things. If it > >is truw i should lower my does i guess. As > >always thank you for taking the time to read this!- > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2010 Report Share Posted February 27, 2010 Hi there , I am hoping you can help me with this! My mom is in the intensive care unit right now at the hospital..She has diabetes insipidus , i know many people are not aware of it because its a rare disease but it is something to do with the pituatary gland.. For the past 3 weeks she has been getting symptoms of pain , nauseousness , dizzy and vomiting.. A feww different doctors gave her different drugs for a few differnt things they thought it might be.. No one knows whats wrong with her right now but they are thinking it has somthing to do with her diabetes medicine.. Do you know anything about this disease so she wont have to take her meds anymore.. I  know they are dangerous.. they must be as she is in danger right now.. DO you think it could be parasites in the gland?? If you are not sure its ok i just wanted to check everywhre possible I am so worried about her right now. Thanks so much for your time! From: <katran7xs (DOT) com> Subject: Re: parasite cleanse Dr@groups .com Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 11:27 AM  Hi , I am sorry I haven't been here sooner. I am not an expert on health issues. But my experiences have lead me to have strong opinions. I do have the book The Yeast connection and women by Dr. Crook. I think it could be related to yeast! And If you are consuming sugar? And or moldy foods as stated in the book... this could make you worse. I took the herbs with breaks for nearly eight years, I had some emotional issues but it was related to the die-off. I was worse emotionally before any cleansing It should pass as you eliminate the toxins. Your Diet is important And grapefruit seed extract is great for helping with Candida. Another book I have states this. When you start on the grapefruit seed extract you will have an increased emotional depression, form the die-off but it will regulate as your system gets healthier. I would like to learn more about health, I read books but some do not make sense, especially since parasites and pollution are the cause of all illness! I love the book The cure for all deceases... Dr. 's research has taught me so much. It make so much sense to me!! People just do not believe they have parasites and it takes years on the herbs to kill them. I Have so many things to say but do not have the time now... I will be back! , I have a question... What Is bio-electric Medicine? Thank you for commenting on my earlier post. You are the first person who might understand my strong opinions. I have had many an argument with MD's and therefore do not go. And What is Nutricon? Thank you so much! Happy New Year everyone! Kat > > Hi - >  > nice to hear from you! >  > My comment: > > First, I have not enough information about you/your circumstances to address causes of your symptoms; >  > second, I am certain [w/ no disrespect to your BF] that  he''s in the same boat as I am: e.g. he has not enough information, if having only read something he's knowledgeable enough to make a determination as to whether you're taking too much WW. >  > Have we talked about Candida? that is what I'd peer into for starts. It will REALLY make you depressed and 'weepy'! Thar's not to say you're suffering from it but if as Dr Crook thinks, 80% of the population has it, I'd tend to start there as opposed to indicting an herb that perhaps only .8% [Note my estimate: 8 tenths of a percent] of the population takes regularly. Incidentally NO ONE should ever take an herb constantly without a two week break after a few months.  Some herbs, like dangerous Pharmeceutical drugs have 'side effects' and the propensity for depleting a person of minerals and vitamins. >   > Parasites however, can affect a persons mind in many ways. The crying is very strongly indicative of the possibility of  Clonorchis [and, its own parasite it appears to carry, Clostridium botulinum] which gets into the Thalamus of the brain. [yes, sounds wierd but its documented! ]  Wormwood won't touch that, but bio-electric medicine will in my own opinion and experience. >  > If you want more info pls get back. In any case Dr. never proferred any caveats about wormwood to my knowldege.  >  > Perhaps your BF might entertain a respectful suggestion from someone who has studied these matters for longer than he has probably been alive and do some serious research and study before advancing opinions based only on what he has read.  When I 'read something' I immediately research it for  validation from others before I accept it. Most of what we read is inadequately researched and much more is downright erroneous. >  > regards, >  > Nutricon wm > > > > > > hello, how are you? have you ever heard of anyone going kind of crazy from taking too much wormwood? Lately ive been really depressed always crying and bringing up terrible past issues with my boyfriend. he thinks it is from the herb because he read that too much of it can cause irregular behaviour and bad things. If it is truw i should lower my does i guess. As always thank you for taking the time to read this!- > > >  > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2010 Report Share Posted February 28, 2010 Dr. stated [in the first CURE book] that in ALL cases of diabetes she ever worked with that the organism Eurytema Pancreaticum [sp?] was present. My own research and experience indicates that it is quite easy to " make go away "  [NO 'cures' right?] It usually targets the pancreas but perhaps in cases of the insipidus pathology this same parasite may have targeted a different organ ? worth a shot with a Function Generator, at that kill frequency I'd think. Wm ________________________________ From: Cain <tanyacain55@...> Dr Sent: Sat, February 27, 2010 4:06:26 PM Subject: Re: Re: parasite cleanse  Hi there , I am hoping you can help me with this! My mom is in the intensive care unit right now at the hospital..She has diabetes insipidus , i know many people are not aware of it because its a rare disease but it is something to do with the pituatary gland.. For the past 3 weeks she has been getting symptoms of pain , nauseousness , dizzy and vomiting.. A feww different doctors gave her different drugs for a few differnt things they thought it might be.. No one knows whats wrong with her right now but they are thinking it has somthing to do with her diabetes medicine.. Do you know anything about this disease so she wont have to take her meds anymore.. I  know they are dangerous.. they must be as she is in danger right now.. DO you think it could be parasites in the gland?? If you are not sure its ok i just wanted to check everywhre possible I am so worried about her right now. Thanks so much for your time! From: <katran7xs (DOT) com> Subject: Re: parasite cleanse Dr@groups .com Date: Saturday, December 26, 2009, 11:27 AM  Hi , I am sorry I haven't been here sooner. I am not an expert on health issues. But my experiences have lead me to have strong opinions. I do have the book The Yeast connection and women by Dr. Crook. I think it could be related to yeast! And If you are consuming sugar? And or moldy foods as stated in the book... this could make you worse. I took the herbs with breaks for nearly eight years, I had some emotional issues but it was related to the die-off. I was worse emotionally before any cleansing It should pass as you eliminate the toxins. Your Diet is important And grapefruit seed extract is great for helping with Candida. Another book I have states this. When you start on the grapefruit seed extract you will have an increased emotional depression, form the die-off but it will regulate as your system gets healthier. I would like to learn more about health, I read books but some do not make sense, especially since parasites and pollution are the cause of all illness! I love the book The cure for all deceases... Dr. 's research has taught me so much. It make so much sense to me!! People just do not believe they have parasites and it takes years on the herbs to kill them. I Have so many things to say but do not have the time now... I will be back! , I have a question... What Is bio-electric Medicine? Thank you for commenting on my earlier post. You are the first person who might understand my strong opinions. I have had many an argument with MD's and therefore do not go. And What is Nutricon? Thank you so much! Happy New Year everyone! Kat > > Hi - >  > nice to hear from you! >  > My comment: > > First, I have not enough information about you/your circumstances to address causes of your symptoms; >  > second, I am certain [w/ no disrespect to your BF] that  he''s in the same boat as I am: e.g. he has not enough information, if having only read something he's knowledgeable enough to make a determination as to whether you're taking too much WW. >  > Have we talked about Candida? that is what I'd peer into for starts. It will REALLY make you depressed and 'weepy'! Thar's not to say you're suffering from it but if as Dr Crook thinks, 80% of the population has it, I'd tend to start there as opposed to indicting an herb that perhaps only .8% [Note my estimate: 8 tenths of a percent] of the population takes regularly. Incidentally NO ONE should ever take an herb constantly without a two week break after a few months.  Some herbs, like dangerous Pharmeceutical drugs have 'side effects' and the propensity for depleting a person of minerals and vitamins. >   > Parasites however, can affect a persons mind in many ways. The crying is very strongly indicative of the possibility of  Clonorchis [and, its own parasite it appears to carry, Clostridium botulinum] which gets into the Thalamus of the brain. [yes, sounds wierd but its documented! ]  Wormwood won't touch that, but bio-electric medicine will in my own opinion and experience. >  > If you want more info pls get back. In any case Dr. never proferred any caveats about wormwood to my knowldege.  >  > Perhaps your BF might entertain a respectful suggestion from someone who has studied these matters for longer than he has probably been alive and do some serious research and study before advancing opinions based only on what he has read.  When I 'read something' I immediately research it for  validation from others before I accept it. Most of what we read is inadequately researched and much more is downright erroneous. >  > regards, >  > Nutricon wm > > > > > > hello, how are you? have you ever heard of anyone going kind of crazy from taking too much wormwood? Lately ive been really depressed always crying and bringing up terrible past issues with my boyfriend. he thinks it is from the herb because he read that too much of it can cause irregular behaviour and bad things. If it is truw i should lower my does i guess. As always thank you for taking the time to read this!- > > >  > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 2, 2010 Report Share Posted March 2, 2010 Hi , I don't know much about it, but a while back I requested a PHYSICIAN LIST from DrStore and this person was listed in it * Callahan, B.Sc. Nutritionist* P.O Box 33 Skull Valley, AZ 86338 Email: ncallahan@... Callahan is a Nutritionist with a Bachelor of Science degree in Nutrition. Her consulting practice is limited to clients with Diabetes (both Type 1 and Type 2). Based on the findings of Dr. Hulda and several years of Ms. Callahan's diabetes consulting practice, she developed The Diabetes Recovery Program, a non-drug, non-medical approach that can improve or eliminate all diabetes symptoms by *eliminating the causes. *A free information package about the Program is available by email, request it at: *ncallahan@... * <newmilen@...>. A consultation is available (via phone or in person). People benefit from the consultation as we cover it in detail and I am available to answer all questions. The charge for the consultation appointment is $60.00 and usually last about 1 1/2 hours. ~*~*~*~*~*~*~ *Best Wishes,* *Donna* On Thu, Dec 3, 2009 at 3:22 PM, <tanyacain55@...> wrote: > > > Does anyone know if a person can get immune to the Dr clark parasite > cleanse.?I have been taking it for a few months and I was wondering if over > 20 years it wont work anymore? Thanks all!! > > > -- Donna in AZ, USA Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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