Guest guest Posted November 7, 2008 Report Share Posted November 7, 2008 Hi Ken. I remember you. My stepmom has/had ovarian cancer. She didn't want to do any of Dr. 's stuff. So she had surgery and has had chemo too many times to count. It was kind of holding it at bay. But then it spread to her liver. She did chemo again, and in May was in bed all the time and basically said she thought she was going to die. So I convinced her to let me go down there and do some stuff for her before it was at the point of no return. I went down there for only a few short days. I gave her almost a whole bottle of black walnut hull liquid in one day. I used muscle testing to determine how much and how long she needed everything. She also took the wormwood, cloves and several of the vitamins that are on Dr. 's protocol and I think tumeric and the other one. She also zapped quite a bit while I was there, and she did a little ozone. I was only there for a couple of days, but left instructions on what to take. I don't know how long they followed it, but not the entire time I told her to. Anyway, she had chemo again after that. Before I went down there, her CA-125 was over 800. After that round of chemo and the Dr. stuff, her CA-125 was down to 180s. Her liver that was very enlarged shrunk back to normal size. She had a couple more rounds of chemo, and her testing lowered even more. So her doctors okayed her to go to here house Mexico till June as long as they get a test done every once in a while to check on her. She is back to feeling normal. I would get Dr. 's new book as the new protocol uses much less supplements than the old and tells you how to do the ozone, which I have heard about in other places as well. If I got cancer, I still would only follow Dr. 's protocols rather than traditional medicine. Good luck, -- Where do I begin? Help needed... Hi everyone, It's been a long time since I really dug into Dr. 's materials (mid 90's), and I was looking for some advice. My grandmother has very early liver cancer, and just had surgery 3 months ago to remove cancerous lesions on her pancreas. Her only advice from her doctor was to take chemotherapy. I know that chemo has a low rate of success, so if we leave it to the doctors, she's going to be dead in a year, and probably pretty miserable some time before that. I love her. I lived with her for years when my dad was having his own problems that we couldn't be together. So her life is important to me. I've read the early versions of the books when they were first released, and I've seen a lot of people talk about Dr 's protocols. But I need hard in-my-face evidence this time. Not for me so much, but for my grandmother. She is one who trust doctors a lot, old fashioned in her thinking. But in-your-face evidence can be hard to refute, especially when your life is at stake. So, I have 3 questions... Is there anyone on this board who personally knows someone who had serious cancer and was actually cured by following Dr 's program, and would contact me directly? Also, does Dr still say that her program can be done simultaneously with a traditional doctor's protocol, like chemo? Finally, does anyone know if the cancer can at least be stopped in it's tracks with zapping or other methods? I think an important step at this point would be to halt the progress. Please don't worry that I'm trying to do anything " funny " here. I'm serious, and I am just a normal citizen. I just want to help my grandma. -Ken B. kenancy2000@... 510-258-0250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 8, 2008 Report Share Posted November 8, 2008 Hi Ken,About a year ago, my husband suddenly found large spots of what we believe was cancer in the back of his throat (no biopsy but most symptoms of it for some time- change of voice, trouble swallowing, feeling of a lump in throat, trouble breathing at night, exact appearance of cancer of the throat). Not to mention, i had had an extremely strong and realistic dream several weeks earlier that my husband passed away, which had a profound impact on me, as i don't ever have that sort of dream. We immediately researched on www.cancertutor.com and he went off ALL junk food & sugar overnight. He began parasite cleansing, Johanna Budwig's flax oil/cottage cheese mix, Dr. Lorraine Day's barley grass etc, and a wholesome mainly raw organic diet of sprouted seeds, nuts, greens, and very little fruit or meat for at least 7 months. (He went on the basic anti-cancer diet found on cancertutor, plus additions of several other healing protocols.) My husband went through terrible detox for months. After 4 months, all the spots in his throat went away with the exception of a small tumor on his voice box which has been shrinking according to the specialist.No way was he going to go the route of chemotherapy! In the book Clinical Oncology, chemotherapy has an average 5-year survival success rate of just over 2 percent for all cancers!! Dr. Mercola had a copy of the page with those statistics at: http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2008/08/05/fungus-causing-can\ cer-a-novel-approach-to-the-most-common-form-of-death.aspx?source=nl With those kind of statistics, why NOT look elsewhere? Many on cancertutor have over 90% success, if chemo hasn't been taken, as it hurts the immune system so badly.On cancertutor there is the Johanna Brandt GRAPE DIET also, and it is a stage 4 cancer powerful home treatment. I would read up on it for your grandmother.Wishing you all the best,Joy From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@...> Subject: Where do I begin? Help needed... Dr Date: Friday, November 7, 2008, 4:13 AM Hi everyone, It's been a long time since I really dug into Dr. 's materials (mid 90's), and I was looking for some advice. My grandmother has very early liver cancer, and just had surgery 3 months ago to remove cancerous lesions on her pancreas. Her only advice from her doctor was to take chemotherapy. I know that chemo has a low rate of success, so if we leave it to the doctors, she's going to be dead in a year, and probably pretty miserable some time before that. I love her. I lived with her for years when my dad was having his own problems that we couldn't be together. So her life is important to me. I've read the early versions of the books when they were first released, and I've seen a lot of people talk about Dr 's protocols. But I need hard in-my-face evidence this time. Not for me so much, but for my grandmother. She is one who trust doctors a lot, old fashioned in her thinking. But in-your-face evidence can be hard to refute, especially when your life is at stake. So, I have 3 questions... Is there anyone on this board who personally knows someone who had serious cancer and was actually cured by following Dr 's program, and would contact me directly? Also, does Dr still say that her program can be done simultaneously with a traditional doctor's protocol, like chemo? Finally, does anyone know if the cancer can at least be stopped in it's tracks with zapping or other methods? I think an important step at this point would be to halt the progress. Please don't worry that I'm trying to do anything " funny " here. I'm serious, and I am just a normal citizen. I just want to help my grandma. -Ken B. kenancy2000 510-258-0250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Hi everyone, I received several emails in response to my post. Thank you! I will respond to each of you. I also ordered The Cure and Prevention of All Cancers (purple '07 version) book from Amazon and got it the other day. I'm pretty busy this week, but I did manage to flip through it briefly after receiving, and I must say I am amazed at the new information in it. I can't yet say if I am happy or sad about it, it seems pretty ...I dunno...weird. I mean, " cosmic dust " ? Well, I'll get to reading it later this week, and seeing how I can approach my grandmother about it. I did have another comment regarding the DVD. Most DVD's should hold 2-3 hours of video, and it seems like the space is mostly wasted. I see there was some insight from Dr about certain aspects of the book, and that's fine. But I was really hoping for more of a video of introduction to the disease and theories and protocols of Dr . That, I think , would have been very much useful to someone who is not so familiar with her work or claims. Well, anyway, that's just a gripe. -Ken > > Hi everyone, > > It's been a long time since I really dug into Dr. 's materials > (mid 90's), and I was looking for some advice. > > My grandmother has very early liver cancer, and just had surgery 3 > months ago to remove cancerous lesions on her pancreas. Her only > advice from her doctor was to take chemotherapy. I know that chemo > has a low rate of success, so if we leave it to the doctors, she's > going to be dead in a year, and probably pretty miserable some time > before that. I love her. I lived with her for years when my dad was > having his own problems that we couldn't be together. So her life is > important to me. > > I've read the early versions of the books when they were first > released, and I've seen a lot of people talk about Dr 's > protocols. But I need hard in-my-face evidence this time. Not for me > so much, but for my grandmother. She is one who trust doctors a lot, > old fashioned in her thinking. But in-your-face evidence can be hard > to refute, especially when your life is at stake. > > So, I have 3 questions... > > Is there anyone on this board who personally knows someone who had > serious cancer and was actually cured by following Dr 's program, > and would contact me directly? > > Also, does Dr still say that her program can be done > simultaneously with a traditional doctor's protocol, like chemo? > > Finally, does anyone know if the cancer can at least be stopped in > it's tracks with zapping or other methods? I think an important step > at this point would be to halt the progress. > > Please don't worry that I'm trying to do anything " funny " here. I'm > serious, and I am just a normal citizen. I just want to help my grandma. > > -Ken B. > kenancy2000@... > 510-258-0250 > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Hi Ken Ones you have cancer you never be 100 percent OK, in the back of your mind you always worry if the cancer will com back, no matter witch way you go. My wive has that problem too. Up till the 5. August 2007 she did every thing she like to do, there was no way to slow her down. We have a beauty shop and many days she worked 8 to 10 ours in a day. On August 5. She fall over a suitcase and broke her left shoulder three places. I took her to the hospital, the looked for cancer in her bones, every thing was OK. It heeled good and after 3 weeks the doctor wonted her to use her arm agin. When she fall she also heart her back after eight weeks she still had pain in her back and I took her to the hospital because of cancer in her background, the took an MRI and told us the cancer had spread to her back. We asked for a copy of the report and the nurse gave us a CD of the MRI. After the MRI report, for two months she would sit and cry and said “ I am doomed I am doomed” when you get to our age your mussels deterred very quickly. Now she walks with a cane. Our Doctor suggested a chiropractor to help her. The chiropractor that we went to, teaches at chiropractic collage in St. Louis and she took the MRI CD with her and one of the teachers at the collage that teaches to read the MRI’s and he red it and sad “ if it was cancer in the bone the cancer would be white in an MRI, but it was not, he could see there was a trauma, but her body is already repairing it”. Ken looking back would I go with Dr. ’s way for my wife NO, she is not strong enough, she needs moor support then one Doctor and me. If you go with Dr. ’s way, it is like the world is agents you. For me I believe this is the best way to go, the only thing is you will have a hard tine to find a doctor to work with you. For Janet in February it will be 8 Years sins the cancer cam back. With love from Albert and Janet Folks ________________________________ From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@...> Dr Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 4:13:54 AM Subject: Where do I begin? Help needed... Hi everyone, It's been a long time since I really dug into Dr. 's materials (mid 90's), and I was looking for some advice. My grandmother has very early liver cancer, and just had surgery 3 months ago to remove cancerous lesions on her pancreas. Her only advice from her doctor was to take chemotherapy. I know that chemo has a low rate of success, so if we leave it to the doctors, she's going to be dead in a year, and probably pretty miserable some time before that. I love her. I lived with her for years when my dad was having his own problems that we couldn't be together. So her life is important to me. I've read the early versions of the books when they were first released, and I've seen a lot of people talk about Dr 's protocols. But I need hard in-my-face evidence this time. Not for me so much, but for my grandmother. She is one who trust doctors a lot, old fashioned in her thinking. But in-your-face evidence can be hard to refute, especially when your life is at stake. So, I have 3 questions... Is there anyone on this board who personally knows someone who had serious cancer and was actually cured by following Dr 's program, and would contact me directly? Also, does Dr still say that her program can be done simultaneously with a traditional doctor's protocol, like chemo? Finally, does anyone know if the cancer can at least be stopped in it's tracks with zapping or other methods? I think an important step at this point would be to halt the progress. Please don't worry that I'm trying to do anything " funny " here. I'm serious, and I am just a normal citizen. I just want to help my grandma. -Ken B. kenancy2000 510-258-0250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 Hello Albert, I'm in no way trying to judge or be an alarmist, but the chemicals your wife and you are exposed to in a beauty shop can cause cancer. I have Multiple Chemical Sensitivity from exposure to chemicals so you can imagine how much I've researched this. I don't know statistics and DEFINETLY do not want to scare you even more than you may be. I believe I've mentioned ozone on this list and if you're into researching google ozone/cancer and you'll find a lot of information on it's effect on cancer and other health issues. Please tell her she is not doomed. I know many, many people that have overcome their cancer. Some using chemo, some alternative. But I do know cancer cannot live in an inhospitable environment so that would be what Dr. 's method is about. Another alternative you may want to research and, Ken, I think I sent this to you as well is Dr. Simoncini's work. He's an Italian oncologist and you can see his talk/interview on youtube " Know the Cause. " http://www.knowthecause.com/Shows/TullioSimonciniMDandDougKaufmanndiscussm/tabid\ /162/Default.aspx http://www.knowthecause.com/Shows/TullioSimonciniMDWithDougKaufmann/tabid/109/De\ fault.aspx Please watch the second one first. They are in the wrong order. My heart is with you Albert and Janet. From: albert folks <alfolks@...> Subject: Re: Where do I begin? Help needed... Dr Date: Friday, January 9, 2009, 7:26 AM Hi Ken Ones you have cancer you never be 100 percent OK, in the back of your mind you always worry if the cancer will com back, no matter witch way you go. My wive has that problem too. Up till the 5. August 2007 she did every thing she like to do, there was no way to slow her down. We have a beauty shop and many days she worked 8 to 10 ours in a day. On August 5. She fall over a suitcase and broke her left shoulder three places. I took her to the hospital, the looked for cancer in her bones, every thing was OK. It heeled good and after 3 weeks the doctor wonted her to use her arm agin. When she fall she also heart her back after eight weeks she still had pain in her back and I took her to the hospital because of cancer in her background, the took an MRI and told us the cancer had spread to her back. We asked for a copy of the report and the nurse gave us a CD of the MRI. After the MRI report, for two months she would sit and cry and said “ I am doomed I am doomed” when you get to our age your mussels deterred very quickly. Now she walks with a cane. Our Doctor suggested a chiropractor to help her. The chiropractor that we went to, teaches at chiropractic collage in St. Louis and she took the MRI CD with her and one of the teachers at the collage that teaches to read the MRI’s and he red it and sad “ if it was cancer in the bone the cancer would be white in an MRI, but it was not, he could see there was a trauma, but her body is already repairing it”. Ken looking back would I go with Dr. ’s way for my wife NO, she is not strong enough, she needs moor support then one Doctor and me. If you go with Dr. ’s way, it is like the world is agents you. For me I believe this is the best way to go, the only thing is you will have a hard tine to find a doctor to work with you. For Janet in February it will be 8 Years sins the cancer cam back. With love from Albert and Janet Folks ________________________________ From: Ken Bagwell <kenancy2000@...> Dr Sent: Friday, November 7, 2008 4:13:54 AM Subject: Where do I begin? Help needed... Hi everyone, It's been a long time since I really dug into Dr. 's materials (mid 90's), and I was looking for some advice. My grandmother has very early liver cancer, and just had surgery 3 months ago to remove cancerous lesions on her pancreas. Her only advice from her doctor was to take chemotherapy. I know that chemo has a low rate of success, so if we leave it to the doctors, she's going to be dead in a year, and probably pretty miserable some time before that. I love her. I lived with her for years when my dad was having his own problems that we couldn't be together. So her life is important to me. I've read the early versions of the books when they were first released, and I've seen a lot of people talk about Dr 's protocols. But I need hard in-my-face evidence this time. Not for me so much, but for my grandmother. She is one who trust doctors a lot, old fashioned in her thinking. But in-your-face evidence can be hard to refute, especially when your life is at stake. So, I have 3 questions... Is there anyone on this board who personally knows someone who had serious cancer and was actually cured by following Dr 's program, and would contact me directly? Also, does Dr still say that her program can be done simultaneously with a traditional doctor's protocol, like chemo? Finally, does anyone know if the cancer can at least be stopped in it's tracks with zapping or other methods? I think an important step at this point would be to halt the progress. Please don't worry that I'm trying to do anything " funny " here. I'm serious, and I am just a normal citizen. I just want to help my grandma. -Ken B. kenancy2000 510-258-0250 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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