BARRETT'S ESOPHAGUS

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Thanks for the website, Jerry. I had read some others about it, too. My

doc says mine is pre-cancerous, but I'm not sure what that means. I guess

he'll just keep checking it from time to time to see if it develops. Not

exactly what I wanted to hear, though. I guess it's not related to AIH,

just lousy timing....

Keep good thoughts,

nne

[ ] Barrett's Esophagus

> http://www.sts.org/doc/4490

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nne..... from what I understand here, is that all Barretts is

precancerous (60% develop into it) and must be carefully watched. I

also sent this becauae its highly unlikely that those other of us

complaining of gas, and bloating and such, have Barrett's. It can only

be diagnosed by endosopy and biopsy.

These symptoms are more likely GERD as Barretts has no visible symptoms

per se. These also may be symptoms of IBS..

irritable bowel syndrome. Of couse extensive GERDmay eentualy lead to

arrets. BTW Barrets is 10 times more comon in men..esp.white and over

40.

I have the same symptoms everyone has been mentioning, but I can control

it with

20 mgs/ Pepcid twice a day. I've been taking it for 8 yrs. whe itwas 1st

x'd by my gasto. I also have a lot of scr tissue in my esophagus due to

many endoscopies and

sclerotherapytreatments.

Be careful with your Barrett's and keep a watch on it. Ofcourse tat

means endos every yer or two.

love jerry

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nne please excuse the sloppy spelling, but my keyboard is not

functioning right and I don't proof read enough.... shame on me.....

it's also what you get by being a one fingered typist.

jerry

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Thanks, Jerry. I'm sure my gastro will keep an eye on it. He loves to do

those endos! I hate them. I seem to get things that are predominantly

usually for older men. A few years ago I had a detached vitreous (luckily

not the retina) and the retinologist was dumbfounded, since there was no

trauma or anything else. Maybe I just have a little extra

testosterone..LOL.

love

nne

Re: [ ] Barrett's Esophagus

> nne..... from what I understand here, is that all Barretts is

> precancerous (60% develop into it) and must be carefully watched. I

> also sent this becauae its highly unlikely that those other of us

> complaining of gas, and bloating and such, have Barrett's. It can only

> be diagnosed by endosopy and biopsy.

> These symptoms are more likely GERD as Barretts has no visible symptoms

> per se. These also may be symptoms of IBS..

> irritable bowel syndrome. Of couse extensive GERDmay eentualy lead to

> arrets. BTW Barrets is 10 times more comon in men..esp.white and over

> 40.

> I have the same symptoms everyone has been mentioning, but I can control

> it with

> 20 mgs/ Pepcid twice a day. I've been taking it for 8 yrs. whe itwas 1st

> x'd by my gasto. I also have a lot of scr tissue in my esophagus due to

> many endoscopies and

> sclerotherapytreatments.

> Be careful with your Barrett's and keep a watch on it. Ofcourse tat

> means endos every yer or two.

>

> love jerry

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No problem... I understood all of it.

nne

Re: [ ] Barrett's Esophagus

> nne please excuse the sloppy spelling, but my keyboard is not

> functioning right and I don't proof read enough.... shame on me.....

> it's also what you get by being a one fingered typist.

>

> jerry

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Thanks Jerry. I guess my concern about the Barrett's was due to the

fact that I used to have horrible heartburn and now I don't. My doc

of course says GERD and irritable bowel, but these are just guesses

really. I just feel like what is going on in my stomach and throat

seem excessive and way beyond the norm, in spite of daily aciphex.

Thanks for all the great info. and support guys. I will keep you

posted, nne!

> nne..... from what I understand here, is that all Barretts is

> precancerous (60% develop into it) and must be carefully watched. I

> also sent this becauae its highly unlikely that those other of us

> complaining of gas, and bloating and such, have Barrett's. It can

only

> be diagnosed by endosopy and biopsy.

> These symptoms are more likely GERD as Barretts has no visible

symptoms

> per se. These also may be symptoms of IBS..

> irritable bowel syndrome. Of couse extensive GERDmay eentualy lead

to

> arrets. BTW Barrets is 10 times more comon in men..esp.white and

over

> 40.

> I have the same symptoms everyone has been mentioning, but I can

control

> it with

> 20 mgs/ Pepcid twice a day. I've been taking it for 8 yrs. whe

itwas 1st

> x'd by my gasto. I also have a lot of scr tissue in my esophagus

due to

> many endoscopies and

> sclerotherapytreatments.

> Be careful with your Barrett's and keep a watch on it. Ofcourse tat

> means endos every yer or two.

>

> love jerry

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Hi Anita,

I had a biopsy that indicated Barrett's a few years ago, but in a follow up

it proved to be normal. As I remember Barrett's is a pre-cancerous condition

that does not necessarily advance to full blown cancer, and is rare for it

to do so. See this link for better understanding of Barrett's

http://www.sts.org/doc/4490#1

Barrett's Esophagus

> Does anyone know anything about Barrett's esophagus? The biopsies

> taken from my endoscopy show that I have it. Any information you can

> give will be much appreciated.

> Anita

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Barrett's Esophagus

Anita, here is a link that might help you out a little.

in Suffolk

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I never quite had Barrett's esophagus, but I've had a hiatel hernia for over

thirty years and have had esophagitis many times.  It's very important that he

NOT lie down.  That means sleeping as well.  The best way to calm the

inflammation is to have no acid from the stomach come up.  I had to set up a

board with a pillow on it and sleep that way for a month one time.  I'd wake up

all slumped over, which was pretty funny, but even now 30 years later my bed is

on a very steep slant, 10 inches so I am never lying flat.  It seems to have

worked as I haven't been plagued by it in many years.  Another thing he might

try is a castor oil pack with a heating pad on top.  Make sure to have a layer

of something between the pad and pack so it doesn't get your pad oily.  Wax

paper will due or plastic.  He needs to get the inflammation under control and

that means no stomach acid.  Gravity is the simplest.

From: Mercurius Trismegistus <magisterium_magnum@...>

Subject: BARRETT'S ESOPHAGUS

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Date: Saturday, May 23, 2009, 1:28 PM

Anybody got some ideas for Barrett's Esophagus?

All I've got is acupuncture and frequencies, neither of which is available to

the person who needs to be treated. He's doing a less acidic diet.

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Anybody got some ideas for Barrett's Esophagus?

All I've got is acupuncture and frequencies, neither of which is available to

the person who needs to be treated. He's doing a less acidic diet.

[Guest guest]

I will post my answer to the query re. suggestions for Barrett's Esophagus which

I just sent off to another forum. I need to add one more ingredient to the

Kefir/V8/cayenne recipe below .. a clove of garlic to be thrown in blender also.

It was advised, among other things, the below quoted, which I have used

successfully as told below:

3. keep head mildly elevated ..even a few inches makes a difference

5.have some licorice tea.... dgl licorice if you are prone to hypertension

6 drink some aloe vera that is food grade.. just a teaspoon full or so is fine

as it can seriously loosen the bowels... oops!

My personal experience with this condition is that it did, indeed, arise from

such as my hiatial hernia, acid reflux and IBS which did not abate with the best

of the gastroenterologists advice, except some years of being on every new type

of antacid and/or proton pump inhibitor out there. It caused me to have to have

my " throat reamed out " twice, (esophageal dilation), to get rid of the

constantly painful scar tissue and other making swallowing almost impossible at

its worst. The dilations did help until better help came along.

Thank God, I found out about 3 products from nature .. the deglycerized licorice

(although in form of tablets rather than tea .. I can keep by the bedside),

Desert Lily brand aloe vera juice especially for stomach and digestion, and a

mix of 8 probiotics.

Those were a God-send literally and got me to my " great remedy " ... KEFIR!

During the 7 weeks I've already been " laid up " with ankle/foot surgery, it made

hubby/caretaker's job much easier to bring me a glass with large walnut size

" kefir grain cultures " in it, full of a mix of half and half kefir curds and

milk, with frozen fruit juices stirred in (instant smoothy). If it were more

milk, less curds, then it could sit at my bedside and culture all night ready to

drink in the morning. Since Kefir is about 7 times more active than yogurt with

50+ beneficial prebiotics and probiotics which work through the entire digestive

system, it replaces the probiotic capsule or expensive yogurt since it cultures

in the kitchen, (or as below, bedside) at room temp.

I have now been able to quit buying anything including the above tabs, aloe and

probiotics) although I do keep the tabs available in case I've overindulged in a

particularly spicy food late at night. I also keep plenty of aloe available for

other uses. I've done a lot with cayenne pepper as an overall cureall too.

Hubby/caretaker was able to learn the recipe/formula for another alternative

wonderful " cure-all " drink, fairly simple to blend up:

Equal amounts kefir curds and V8 juice, dried greens, (mix of

parsley/spinach/dill weed/chives), fresh stalk celery, perhaps a carrot, and 1/4

tsp. of cayenne pepper. (One of the first days I instructed him with just an

" about a 1/4 spoon of cayenne pepper " , forgetting about the instruction as to

which size of spoon. WOW! That one needed considerable dilution before my

now-hardened, adapted and rejuvenated digestive system could drink it!

I still have to sleep with my head up on several pillows but nothing like the

extreme incline I formerly had to do. I predict that so long as I can keep

having my daily kefir, that I will NOT get Barrett's esophageal cancer which is

the next steps from the severe burning/scarring.

Hope this helps others .. in case you don't know about traditional kefir grains

... please learn and learn the difference between them and the kefir powders sold

commercially even in health food stores as " kefir " . The commercial has only

about as many probiotics, etc. as yogurts. It does NOT have the capacity to do

such as provide environment where e-coli can't exist, salmonella, listeria, etc.

Try keeping anything else out on the countertop at room temp for even weeks on

end ... or the whey which has many uses for months, (like personal care

products).

Cheers to all, Joyce Simmerman, J.D.

There is ALWAYS a " BETTER WAY " ! Together WE can find IT and make IT a " Cradle

for Humanity " !

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Jeff wrote:

> ...Barrett's would it not take longer than 6 months to develop? ...

>

Even if you had a scope done every three months you could still end up

finding you had Barrett's even though the scope before did not reveal

it. If this were not true then a way to prevent Barrett's would be to

have a scope every three months. Having tests done more often just means

you find it at an earlier point in the development, which is good. I

would be glad it was found so soon after not being able to detect it.

Also, you can find it with a biopsy when it may have been missed otherwise.

> ... Is this something common for people with achalasia?

The risk of Barrett's and even esophageal cancer are increased when you

have achalasia. How much the risks are increased is a matter of debate.

I believe that in this support group there has only been one person that

had esophageal cancer and in that case the cancer probably caused the

achalasia (pseudo) and not the other way around. In fact he may have

only just been getting tested for achalasia when it was found. I could

be remembering it wrong. I would look it up but the group search feature

seems to be missing any messages before about a month ago. (I hope

someone fixes that.)

> Since my HM I have been on PPIs and have not noticed a lot of reflux. ...

Some studies have found that some people with achalasia don't always

feel acid reflux, even when it is doing damage. You could be one of

those people. Some studies find that esophagitis is common in achalasia

patients that have been treated. We usually think of this kind of thing

in the context of those treated by myotomy and it being due to reflux.

Here is one study on patients treated by dilatation and the connection

with food stasis.

Oesophagitis is common in patients with achalasia after pneumatic

dilatation.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16611281

" Forty percent of the achalasia patients develop chronic active or

ulcerating oesophagitis after treatment. Inflammation was associated

with food stasis. "

So not only could there be damage from the stomach acid, but even if the

PPIs stopped that there could still be some food stasis causing problems.

> I would think it would take longer for the PPIs to start to heal…….

The original use for PPIs, and still the only indicated use thought

there are other off label uses, is only short-term use. In something

like esophagitis due to acid reflux they can work fairly fast, but not

always.

> ... I asked them three times if they were sure it showed Barrett's and they

said yes. ...

Seems like there has been at least one person in this group that was

told they had Barrett's and then told they didn't. There is some chance

of a false positive.

notan

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Interesting note:

Science Daily notes that Doctors have succesfully REMOVED Barretts using Radio

Frequency Ablation and then replacing the affected area with epthelial cells

grown from the patient. in effect, " curing " Barretts.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2010/02/100218141803.htm

Additionally, recent studies indicate that those with Barretts ave the same

survival rate as the general population.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/10/091026152940.htm

All around great news.

> > ...Barrett's would it not take longer than 6 months to

> develop? ...

> >   

>

> Even if you had a scope done every three months you could

> still end up

> finding you had Barrett's even though the scope before did

> not reveal

> it. If this were not true then a way to prevent Barrett's

> would be to

> have a scope every three months. Having tests done more

> often just means

> you find it at an earlier point in the development, which

> is good. I

> would be glad it was found so soon after not being able to

> detect it.

> Also, you can find it with a biopsy when it may have been

> missed otherwise.

>

>

> > ... Is this something common for people with

> achalasia?

>

> The risk of Barrett's and even esophageal cancer are

> increased when you

> have achalasia. How much the risks are increased is a

> matter of debate.

> I believe that in this support group there has only been

> one person that

> had esophageal cancer and in that case the cancer probably

> caused the

> achalasia (pseudo) and not the other way around. In fact he

> may have

> only just been getting tested for achalasia when it was

> found. I could

> be remembering it wrong. I would look it up but the group

> search feature

> seems to be missing any messages before about a month ago.

> (I hope

> someone fixes that.)

>

>

> > Since my HM I have been on PPIs and have not noticed a

> lot of reflux. ...

>

> Some studies have found that some people with achalasia

> don't always

> feel acid reflux, even when it is doing damage. You could

> be one of

> those people. Some studies find that esophagitis is common

> in achalasia

> patients that have been treated. We usually think of this

> kind of thing

> in the context of those treated by myotomy and it being due

> to reflux.

> Here is one study on patients treated by dilatation and the

> connection

> with food stasis.

>

> Oesophagitis is common in patients with achalasia after

> pneumatic

> dilatation.

> http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/16611281

> " Forty percent of the achalasia patients develop chronic

> active or

> ulcerating oesophagitis after treatment. Inflammation was

> associated

> with food stasis. "

>

> So not only could there be damage from the stomach acid,

> but even if the

> PPIs stopped that there could still be some food stasis

> causing problems.

>

> >   I would think it would take longer

> for the PPIs to start to heal…….

>

> The original use for PPIs, and still the only indicated use

> thought

> there are other off label uses, is only short-term use. In

> something

> like esophagitis due to acid reflux they can work fairly

> fast, but not

> always.

>

> > ... I asked them three times if they were sure it

> showed Barrett's and they said yes. ...

>

> Seems like there has been at least one person in this group

> that was

> told they had Barrett's and then told they didn't. There is

> some chance

> of a false positive.

>

> notan

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Curcuma aromatica oil prevented loss of MnSOD in EDA rat esophageal

epithelium, and this preservation of MnSOD is associated with the potential

protective mechanism against transformation of esophageal epithelial to Barrett

esophagus to esophageal adenocarcinoma.

http://www.springerlink.com/content/p4k371713004jt85/

Polyphenon E (Green tea catechin) Inhibits the Growth of Human Barrett’sand

AerodigestiveAdenocarcinoma Cells bySuppressing Cyclin D1Expression.Poly E

inhibits growth of transformed aerodigestive epithelial cells by

suppressing cyclinD1expression through both transcriptional and

posttranslationalmechanisms.These results provide insight into themechanisms by

which Poly E inhibits growth of Barrett’s and adenocarcinomacells, and

provides a rationale for using this agent as a potential chemopreventive

andtherapeutic strategy for esophageal adenocarcinoma and its precursor,

Barrett’s esophagus.

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19147768

These studies shows usefull effect of both green tea and curcumin for barrett

esophagus and esophageal  carcinoma.

Banu