Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 I have candida, too. On top of a lot of other things. I am trying LDN not for the candida, but endometriosis and chronic fatigue. Vera, Bino & JerryFrom: kim.doll70 <kim.doll70@...>Subject: [low dose naltrexone] candidalow dose naltrexone Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 11:53 PM I see alot of mention of caution with candida with LDN on many forums. Can LDN induce yeast? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 Go here: http://tinyurl.com/48ds6l Art -- > > My doctor had no interest at all in my being tested for candida and > seems to feel that it is something of no importance to my Crohn's > symptoms. That was a surprise because she has on the other hand been > willing to prescribe LDN which many doctors will refuse. Perhaps I > should contact Dr. McCandless for testing, but I'm not sure that I > would want to take things like Flagyl or Diflucan if I tested positive. > I can easily go without sugar and yeasty things like bread and pastries > because for a couple of years I did follow the SCD diet, and I felt > very healthy. My Crohn's was under much better control then. Now I > have lots of Crohn's symptoms including weight loss so cutting out > things sweetened with honey, for instance, makes it pretty difficult to > maintain weight. Is Nystatin a fairly harmless drug for eliminating > yeast or do you think I could be successful with diet changes alone? > I've been taking S. Boulardi for diarrhea which is some type of yeast > but not a yeast that contributes to Candida from what I understand. > I'm open to suggestions from those who have been successful in treating > Candida. > > Bobbie > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2008 Report Share Posted November 13, 2008 > > My doctor had no interest at all in my being tested for candida and > seems to feel that it is something of no importance to my Crohn's > symptoms. That was a surprise because she has on the other hand been > willing to prescribe LDN which many doctors will refuse. Per 555 haps I > should contact Dr. McCandless for testing, but I'm not sure that I > would want to take things like Flagyl or Diflucan if I tested positive. > I can easily go without sugar and yeasty things like bread and pastries > because for a couple of years I did follow the SCD diet, and I felt > very healthy. My Crohn's was under much better control then. Now I > have lots of Crohn's symptoms including weight loss so cutting out > things sweetened with honey, for instance, makes it pretty difficult to > maintain weight. Is Nystatin a fairly harmless drug for eliminating > yeast or do you think I could be successful with diet changes alone? > I've been taking S. Boulardi for diarrhea which is some type of yeast > but not a yeast that contributes to Candida from what I understand. > I'm open to suggestions from those who have been successful in treating > Candida. > > Bobbie > ============ If you can do it with diet, then do that. Nystatin is easier on the system than Diflucan but will not get to yeast in bloodstream, but dietng properly will clean yeast from bloodstrem. McCandless' advice on diet and supplements would be a powerful weapon with treating your crohn's. She likes to find the root cause if at all possible. Your own statement tells you that diet is important in treating crohn's. I found alfalfa taken daily helped my many years of chronic cramping and diarrhea. I suffered with this from age 10 to age 34. Only one bite of food could trigger severe cramps & diarrhea. I probably took too much alfalfa daily but I was desperate. Adding other gut healing supplements will help also. , chronic Progressive MS LDN(5 yrs) user. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 18, 2009 Report Share Posted January 18, 2009 Check yourself for Candida(yeast overgrowth)... http://tinyurl.com/48ds6l Art --- > > it was said in a previous post that candida would interfere with ldn > treatment and to be sure to be free of it. my experience is that it > is impossible to be free of candida. also the medicine that is given > for it is quite toxic and unpleasant to take. is this true about > candida and does anyone have advice about how to get rid of it? > susan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Hi , This is just one place with lots of info. http://www.yeastinfectionadvisor.com/ I, personally, would not take any toxic drugs. Good luck! Nonie > > it was said in a previous post that candida would interfere with ldn> treatment and to be sure to be free of it. my experience is that it> is impossible to be free of candida. also the medicine that is given> for it is quite toxic and unpleasant to take. is this true about> candida and does anyone have advice about how to get rid of it?> susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 you can go to the doug kaufman site to learn how to get rid of the overgrowth of candida also without the medecines.threelac is also worth trying. > > it was said in a previous post that candida would interfere with ldn > treatment and to be sure to be free of it. my experience is that it > is impossible to be free of candida. also the medicine that is given > for it is quite toxic and unpleasant to take. is this true about > candida and does anyone have advice about how to get rid of it? > susan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 If ldn does not work unless there is a specific diet, or candida or whatever else is needed, how do you separate out how much the ldn has improved the condidtion from how much the diet/other stuff has improved the condition? Does anybody know of published research on the other stuff (diet/candida etc) separate from ldn for autoimmune diseases? Jill Quote : “ When I was 5 years old, my mom always told me that happiness was the key to life. When I went to school, they asked me what I wanted to be when I grew up. I wrote down “happy.†They told me I didn’t understand the assignment and I told them they didn’t understand life. > From: zahavi <zahavi100@...> > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida > low dose naltrexone > Date: Monday, January 19, 2009, 1:00 AM > you can go to the doug kaufman site to learn how to get rid > of the > overgrowth of candida also without the medecines.threelac > is also > worth trying. > > > > > > > it was said in a previous post that candida would > interfere with ldn > > treatment and to be sure to be free of it. my > experience is that it > > is impossible to be free of candida. also the > medicine that is given > > for it is quite toxic and unpleasant to take. is this > true about > > candida and does anyone have advice about how to get > rid of it? > > susan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 you do not have to seperate .you only have to get better.a good diet that is good for you and a body that is clean of overgrowth of candida is always important. > > > > > > it was said in a previous post that candida would > > interfere with ldn > > > treatment and to be sure to be free of it. my > > experience is that it > > > is impossible to be free of candida. also the > > medicine that is given > > > for it is quite toxic and unpleasant to take. is this > > true about > > > candida and does anyone have advice about how to get > > rid of it? > > > susan > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 19, 2009 Report Share Posted January 19, 2009 Look into Threelac for combatting candida. Many who's LDN had stopped working after years of successful use have used Threelac to clean up candida yeast and the LDN kicked right back in working again once the yeast was lowered. Threelac is a product that is getting mentioned alot as successfully combatting yeast. Google search it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 I was thinking of doing Threelac. I have Colitis and was wondering if it is necessary to stop LDN while doing a yeast cleanse? ~Molly From: Bren <TwisterAlley2@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:28:38 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida Look into Threelac for combatting candida. Many who's LDN had stopped working after years of successful use have used Threelac to clean up candida yeast and the LDN kicked right back in working again once the yeast was lowered. Threelac is a product that is getting mentioned alot as successfully combatting yeast. Google search it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 you can continue ldn while doing threelac > > I was thinking of doing Threelac. I have Colitis and was wondering if it is necessary to stop LDN while doing a yeast cleanse? > ~Molly > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Bren <TwisterAlley2@...> > low dose naltrexone > Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:28:38 PM > Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida > > > > Look into Threelac for combatting candida. Many who's LDN had stopped > working after years of successful use have used Threelac to clean up > candida yeast and the LDN kicked right back in working again once the > yeast was lowered. Threelac is a product that is getting mentioned > alot as successfully combatting yeast. Google search it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 Hi Molly, I have UC and I was wondering why do you think you have candida overgrowth? I take olive leaf extract by Seagate, but that’s for the “bad bugs” in my gut my NP told me. Some anaerobes or something he called it. How is the LDN working for your UC? I’m just about to start it. From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Molly Caballero Sent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:21 PM low dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida I was thinking of doing Threelac. I have Colitis and was wondering if it is necessary to stop LDN while doing a yeast cleanse? ~Molly From: Bren <TwisterAlley2@...> low dose naltrexone Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:28:38 PM Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida Look into Threelac for combatting candida. Many who's LDN had stopped working after years of successful use have used Threelac to clean up candida yeast and the LDN kicked right back in working again once the yeast was lowered. Threelac is a product that is getting mentioned alot as successfully combatting yeast. Google search it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 21, 2009 Report Share Posted January 21, 2009 No Molly, it's not necessary stopping LDN while doing a treatment for candida. What medicine will you use? Ingrid From: Chasey <lindac@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:43:54 PMSubject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida Hi Molly, I have UC and I was wondering why do you think you have candida overgrowth? I take olive leaf extract by Seagate, but that’s for the “bad bugs” in my gut my NP told me. Some anaerobes or something he called it. How is the LDN working for your UC? I’m just about to start it. From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:low dose naltrexone ] On Behalf Of Molly CaballeroSent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:21 PMlow dose naltrexone Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida I was thinking of doing Threelac. I have Colitis and was wondering if it is necessary to stop LDN while doing a yeast cleanse? ~Molly From: Bren <TwisterAlley2@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:28:38 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida Look into Threelac for combatting candida. Many who's LDN had stopped working after years of successful use have used Threelac to clean up candida yeast and the LDN kicked right back in working again once the yeast was lowered. Threelac is a product that is getting mentioned alot as successfully combatting yeast. Google search it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hi, I'm new and I'm wondering if anyone in group is from triangle area in N.C., usa? My neurologist won't prescribe the ldn, he says no data to support it. From: Molly Caballero <mollycab@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 7:59:34 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] candida Hi Ingrid, thank you for getting back to me. My Mom just told me about a recommended product called Candida Take Care by New Chapter. It is made of cranberry something or other. It was highly recommended. Has anyone on here tried it? I can't do garlic and a lot of the products are loaded with garlic. From: Gunn Dybfest <gunn.ingrid>low dose naltrexoneSent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 2:54:27 PMSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida No Molly, it's not necessary stopping LDN while doing a treatment for candida. What medicine will you use? Ingrid From: Chasey <lindac@westbranchai r.com>low dose naltrexoneSent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 3:43:54 PMSubject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida Hi Molly, I have UC and I was wondering why do you think you have candida overgrowth? I take olive leaf extract by Seagate, but that’s for the “bad bugs” in my gut my NP told me. Some anaerobes or something he called it. How is the LDN working for your UC? I’m just about to start it. From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:lowdosenalt rexone@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Molly CaballeroSent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:21 PMlow dose naltrexoneSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida I was thinking of doing Threelac. I have Colitis and was wondering if it is necessary to stop LDN while doing a yeast cleanse? ~Molly From: Bren <TwisterAlley2@ webtv.net>low dose naltrexoneSent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:28:38 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida Look into Threelac for combatting candida. Many who's LDN had stopped working after years of successful use have used Threelac to clean up candida yeast and the LDN kicked right back in working again once the yeast was lowered. Threelac is a product that is getting mentioned alot as successfully combatting yeast. Google search it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 Hi , I was tested a number of years ago and the yeast was very high. I felt a lot better a few years ago when I took Oil of Oregono, but haven't been able to get the same effect since. I just started the LDN about 2 weeks ago and haven't seen a change yet. I don't have the textbook UC though. Anyhow, I really hope it works for you! Keep me posted and I will do the same. Molly From: Chasey <lindac@...>low dose naltrexone Sent: Wednesday, January 21, 2009 6:43:54 AMSubject: RE: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida Hi Molly, I have UC and I was wondering why do you think you have candida overgrowth? I take olive leaf extract by Seagate, but that’s for the “bad bugs” in my gut my NP told me. Some anaerobes or something he called it. How is the LDN working for your UC? I’m just about to start it. From: low dose naltrexone [mailto:lowdosenalt rexone@grou ps.com] On Behalf Of Molly CaballeroSent: Tuesday, January 20, 2009 11:21 PMlow dose naltrexoneSubject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida I was thinking of doing Threelac. I have Colitis and was wondering if it is necessary to stop LDN while doing a yeast cleanse? ~Molly From: Bren <TwisterAlley2@ webtv.net>low dose naltrexoneSent: Monday, January 19, 2009 2:28:38 PMSubject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: candida Look into Threelac for combatting candida. Many who's LDN had stopped working after years of successful use have used Threelac to clean up candida yeast and the LDN kicked right back in working again once the yeast was lowered. Threelac is a product that is getting mentioned alot as successfully combatting yeast. Google search it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 22, 2009 Report Share Posted January 22, 2009 How To Obtain Low Dose Naltrexone (LDN) http://www.webspawner.com/users/howtoobtainldn/index.html The American College for Advancement in Medicine (ACAM) is a not-for- profit association dedicated to educating physicians and other health care professionals on the latest findings and emerging procedures in complementary, alternative and integrative (CAIM) medicine. ACAM is the voice of integrative medicine; our goals are to improve physician skills, knowledge and diagnostic procedures as they relate to complementary and alternative medicine; to support integrative medicine research; and to develop awareness of alternative methods of medical treatment. ACAM enables members of the public to connect with physicians who take an integrative approach to patient care and empowers people with information about integrative medicine treatment options. Celebrating more than a quarter century of service, ACAM represents more than 1,000 physicians in 30 countries. ACAM is the largest and oldest organization of its kind in the world dedicated exclusively to serving the needs of the integrative medicine industry. http://tinyurl.com/32re32 Art --- > > Hi, I'm new and I'm wondering if anyone in group is from triangle area in N..C., usa? My neurologist won't prescribe the ldn, he says no data to support it. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2009 Report Share Posted June 1, 2009 > > I've been reading on this board how candida is an issue with LDN, and how candida may increase when starting on LDN. I was just wondering why this happens. Usually there is candida growth because of a poor immune system. That's why a healthy person who eats lots of sugar doesn't have a " problem " with candida, but people with immune issues do. If LDN supports the immune system, why would candida increase? > Moon >---------- It brings it to the forefront/stirs it up/activates the underlying yeast infection, I don't know why but glad it does so that the problem child can be dealt with. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 Dear Judy, I have only been on LDN 2 months, and only at1.5 mg now, below the threshold for manifesting improvements (but no spasms or pain either). Anyway, I routinely gargle with 5 - 7 drops food grade hydrogen peroxide in water every morning, and 3 - 5 drops tea tree oil every night as part of my oral hygiene after I brush and floss (at night) my teeth. But I don;t gargle when I go away, and I don't live in mortal fear that I'll have an outbreak. Sounds like you don't have the candida under control yetm and may need to be more aggressive. And of course, be on top of your diet. This is what I got from this group: • Allowed foods are beef, chicken, eggs, fish, yogurt, vegetables, nuts, seeds, oils. • Eliminate refined any simple sugars – no added sugar of any kind, including white or brown sugar, raw sugar, honey, molasses, or grain sweeteners. Stevia is an allowed sugar substitute. • Eat lots of raw garlic • Avoid milk • Avoid alcohol, fruit or dried fruit, mushrooms. • Avoid foods that contain yeast or mold – this includes all breads, muffins, cakes, baked goods, cheese, dried fruits, melons, peanuts. • Increase fiber – One teaspoon to one tablespoon of soluble fiber containing guar gum, psyllium husks, flaxseeds or pectin can be mixed in an 8 oz glass of water two times per day on an empty stomach. Vitamins & Nutritional Supplements: Acidophilus – One capsule containing the probiotic lactobacillus acidophilus can be ingested daily. Acidophilus controls candida by making the intestinal tract more acidic to discourage the growth of candida, and by producing hydrogen peroxide, which directly kills candida. Research has shown that supplementing with a hydrogen peroxide-producing strain of acidophilus; DDS-1 can greatly reduce the incidence of antibiotic- induced yeast infections. These beneficial bacteria control and help to restore the microbial balance within the digestive tract. Enteric-coated volatile oils – Enteric-coated capsules containing oregano oil, peppermint oil, and other volatile oils can help the overgrowth of candida. It must be continued for at least several months.. A standard dosage is two capsules two times a day with water, in between meals. Pure volatile oils can be quite toxic in this amount so the liquid form of these oils should never be ingested, and the capsules should not be broken open before ingesting. Enteric-coated garlic – Garlic capsules that have been enteric- coated to open when they reach the intestines can be used in combination with the volatile oils. One capsule two times per day taken with the enteric-coated volatile oil is a typical recommendation. Other valuable supplements are capryllic acid from coconuts, oleic acid from olive oil, oregano oil, and pau d'arco. There are many combination products formulated for candida that contain these herbs and supplements. Environmental/ Lifestyle: Consider talking with your physician about substitute methods of birth control if you are using oral contraceptives. Avoid alcohol and smoking. Both can impair immune function. Try to stay well-rested and get good-quality sleep. Hope this helps, Sheila On Mon, Jul 20, 2009 at 1:47 PM, Judy Harford<jlharford@...> wrote: > > > I have a question for those that have been on LDN for a while. I did a > candida/parasite cleanse before I started LDN. It's been over 5 months now > that I've been on LDN but I'm still having a hard time with the candida. It > is mostly under my arms, but there is some vaginal yeast too. I have been > using a candida cleanse (oral homeopathic liquid drops) plus a topical Tea > Tree oil. By doing this I can keep it under control, but if I miss one time > of not doing either one I've broken out again. Is this something that never > clears up and I will have to add it to my daily routine, or does it > eventually clear up? Thanks for your help. > > Judy H > To better health through knowledge > Started taking LDN on 1/21/2009 for Fibromyalgia, Hypothyroid, PCOS and > Restless Legs Syndrome > LDNforFibro/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2009 Report Share Posted July 20, 2009 you can try difflucan cure of 3 weeks,.of using olive leaf extract and after that oregano oil and then other products.you have to change all the time because the candida becomes immune.threelac works also good. > > I have a question for those that have been on LDN for a while. I did a candida/parasite cleanse before I started LDN. It's been over 5 months now that I've been on LDN but I'm still having a hard time with the candida. It is mostly under my arms, but there is some vaginal yeast too. I have been using a candida cleanse (oral homeopathic liquid drops) plus a topical Tea Tree oil. By doing this I can keep it under control, but if I miss one time of not doing either one I've broken out again. Is this something that never clears up and I will have to add it to my daily routine, or does it eventually clear up? Thanks for your help. > > Judy H > To better health through knowledge > Started taking LDN on 1/21/2009 for Fibromyalgia, Hypothyroid, PCOS and Restless Legs Syndrome > LDNforFibro/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2009 Report Share Posted July 26, 2009 I have never been able to eliminate my Candida. I must keep it under control with a strict diet, grapefruit seed extract, capprylic acid and, if I can get it, diflucan. I should do acidophlius but I can seem to make it work in my regime. I know that if I break my diet at all without a diflucan ready the yeast comes right back. Some people can beat it...some people it requires long term treatment. A. > > I have a question for those that have been on LDN for a while. I did a candida/parasite cleanse before I started LDN. It's been over 5 months now that I've been on LDN but I'm still having a hard time with the candida. It is mostly under my arms, but there is some vaginal yeast too. I have been using a candida cleanse (oral homeopathic liquid drops) plus a topical Tea Tree oil. By doing this I can keep it under control, but if I miss one time of not doing either one I've broken out again. Is this something that never clears up and I will have to add it to my daily routine, or does it eventually clear up? Thanks for your help. > > Judy H > To better health through knowledge > Started taking LDN on 1/21/2009 for Fibromyalgia, Hypothyroid, PCOS and Restless Legs Syndrome > LDNforFibro/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 Other reasons of negative responses to LDN by Dr. Jaquelyn McCandless Re: ldn As usual, I need to emphasize that seldom is LDN a stand-alone treatment, but accompanies other strategies their body needs, especially a healthy diet. No sugar, dairy or gluten. It takes some people longer to respond to LDN, and they may be colonized with pathogenic yeast and bacteria that could be slowing response. There is a phenomenon that happens to some people that as the immune system is shifting (usually from T2 to T1) right after starting LDN, the immune system drops and people get an infection, cold, flu, cold sore, etc. which is usually short lived. Candida tends to overgrow or a virus will flare up. These infections are usually short-lived unless something like candida and gut bacteria needs treatment. Are you a big bread/carbohydrate/sugar eater? Ever been tested for candida (yeast) or gut bacterial infestation? Ever been checked for hypothyroidism? Would you be willing to stop all casein (milk products) and gluten (wheat, rye, barley and oats) for a week and see if you feel better? A study done several years ago showed that 30% of us have some degree of celiac disease (intolerance/allegy to wheat) even though the clinical symptoms may not be obvious enough to alert most people to that. When anyone in that 30% of persons stops eating wheat, they feel a lot better. The LDN may be acting like the opioid antagonist it is and causing a withdrawal reaction from taking away your fix, even if only for a few hours. Try to hang in for awhile longer, and it will probably get better. These setbacks usually do not last long unless something like a yeast infection is stubborn without specific treatment. Dr. JM ===== Q: Dr. JM or anyone- Does LDN cause candida? A: LDN has been noted to aggravate yeast infections and other latent pathogens, viruses, etc. as the immune system is making early adjustments. It is good to have natural yeast remedies on board when LDN is started (grapefruit seed extract, Candex, lauricidin, hi-potency probiotics, etc) to help offset this possibility. (And of course a good dietary regime that does not encourage gut inflammation which is usually the predecessor to pathogen invasion). Dr. Jaquelyn McCandless posted by Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 3, 2009 Report Share Posted August 3, 2009 then go and read what dr mccandless write about her experience with many patients especially autist children which are full of yeast,that at th3e beginning of ldn the candida can become worse. > > I don't think that LDN would make Candida or leaky gut worse because LDN strengthens your immune system and helps your intestines. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 29, 2009 Report Share Posted August 29, 2009 When starting this LDN(Low Dose Naltrexone) therapy in the treatment of MS, there may also be some initial transient, though temporary, increase in MS symptoms. Experience in using this method has demonstrated most commonly, such as disturbed sleep, occasionally with vivid, bizarre and disturbing dreams, tiredness, fatigue, spasm and pain. Rarely, other transient symptoms have included more severe pain and spasm, headache, diarrhea or vomiting. These additional symptoms would appear to be associated with the previous frequent use of strong analgesics, which effectively create an addiction and dependency, thus increasing the body's sensitivity to pain. This temporary increase in symptoms may also perhaps be explained when we consider the manner in which this drug is expected to work. Dr. M R Lawrence === Other reasons of negative responses to LDN by Dr. Jaquelyn McCandless Re: ldn As usual, I need to emphasize that seldom is LDN a stand-alone treatment, but accompanies other strategies their body needs, especially a healthy diet. No sugar, dairy or gluten. It takes some people longer to respond to LDN, and they may be colonized with pathogenic yeast and bacteria that could be slowing response. There is a phenomenon that happens to some people that as the immune system is shifting (usually from T2 to T1) right after starting LDN, the immune system drops and people get an infection, cold, flu, cold sore, etc. which is usually short lived. Candida tends to overgrow or a virus will flare up. These infections are usually short-lived unless something like candida and gut bacteria needs treatment. Are you a big bread/carbohydrate/sugar eater? Ever been tested for candida (yeast) or gut bacterial infestation? Ever been checked for hypothyroidism? Would you be willing to stop all casein (milk products) and gluten (wheat, rye, barley and oats) for a week and see if you feel better? A study done several years ago showed that 30% of us have some degree of celiac disease (intolerance/allegy to wheat) even though the clinical symptoms may not be obvious enough to alert most people to that. When anyone in that 30% of persons stops eating wheat, they feel a lot better. The LDN may be acting like the opioid antagonist it is and causing a withdrawal reaction from taking away your fix, even if only for a few hours. Try to hang in for awhile longer, and it will probably get better. These setbacks usually do not last long unless something like a yeast infection is stubborn without specific treatment. Dr. JM ===== Q: Dr. JM or anyone- Does LDN cause candida? A: LDN has been noted to aggravate yeast infections and other latent pathogens, viruses, etc. as the immune system is making early adjustments. It is good to have natural yeast remedies on board when LDN is started (grapefruit seed extract, Candex, lauricidin, hi-potency probiotics, etc) to help offset this possibility. (And of course a good dietary regime that does not encourage gut inflammation which is usually the predecessor to pathogen invasion). Dr. Jaquelyn McCandless posted by , 6 yr LDN user My LDN Forum and info. site http://ldn.proboards.com/index.cgi? =========== > > I had systemic candida before I started LDN. I took Nystatin for 7 days then switched to Candibactin Br which is herbal & I take probiotics, In the beginning while I was on Nystatin & taking LDN I think I felt better But I may need more Nystatin. Why is it some say LDN Causes more yeast or is this even true? I've been extremely tired & I think it's yeast related. > Thanks, Terri > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 10, 2009 Report Share Posted October 10, 2009 Hi I have just ordered some coconut oil - have tried it before but it's very hard to spread but if it's going to be of benefit, I'll give it another go!! On the LDN, do I have to stick to this diet forever? I may get used to it but I love eating out and it's so difficult. My other half seems to get annoyed when I am so fussy in a restaurant etc. No alcohol is also a bit of a bummer as is coffee. Oh well, all in a good cause. Can't wait to get some good results from the LDN and then, the whole world will know about it. Thanks again. ========================================Message Received: Oct 08 2009, 02:14 AMFrom: "My-Stitches" angelamartin@...Cc: Subject: Re: CandidaHi .Some of those candida diets are pretty horrendous. I've been on them off and on through the years. I just started LDN, and I am on SCD for 10 weeks. A dental emergency 6 weeks ago hit me with a cascade of things, and I am sure the thick yellow yunk on my tongue is candida. My diet is already SO limited from allergies and now SCD that I was unwilling to give up fruit. I have given up all sugars and heavy starches. But my tongue is getting better anyhow and you know why? I have added coconut oil to my diet, but not cut the fruits in any way and I eat plenty. Coconut oil (must be virgin coconut oil to retain the therapeutic properties) is anti-fungal. And....over this past few weeks most of that candida-tongue has disappeared.So, just an idea athat you might try. Of course we should all be on a good diet anyhow for any kind of healing and that always means cut the wheat, sugars, junks stuff etc as a minimum. But, you can sneak into a better diet just like anything else if it's overwhelming to do it all at once.Good luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 12, 2009 Report Share Posted October 12, 2009 Thanks Amy. I actually have some drops of it (Citricidal) in the cupboard which I keep for holidays as good for stomach bugs so will start using it. Thanks. ========================================Message Received: Oct 12 2009, 02:15 AMFrom: "Amethyst Mueller" angelamartin@...Cc: Subject: Re: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Candida if you are having trouble with coconut oil buy some Grapefruit Seed Extract. Start with one tab at night then one in AM one in PM, then go to one 3 times a day. Keeps yeast in check and you don't necessarily have to "give up" all the other stuff. I've been doing Grape Frut seed extract since I started LDN and it's worked very well.Best of luck,Amy From: Subject: [low dose naltrexone] Re: Candida"My-Stitches" Cc: low dose naltrexone Date: Saturday, October 10, 2009, 7:40 AM Hi I have just ordered some coconut oil - have tried it before but it's very hard to spread but if it's going to be of benefit, I'll give it another go!! On the LDN, do I have to stick to this diet forever? I may get used to it but I love eating out and it's so difficult. My other half seems to get annoyed when I am so fussy in a restaurant etc. No alcohol is also a bit of a bummer as is coffee. Oh well, all in a good cause. Can't wait to get some good results from the LDN and then, the whole world will know about it. Thanks again. ============ ========= ========= ========= =Message Received: Oct 08 2009, 02:14 AMFrom: "My-Stitches" angelamartin@ fsmail.netCc: Subject: Re: CandidaHi .Some of those candida diets are pretty horrendous. I've been on them off and on through the years. I just started LDN, and I am on SCD for 10 weeks. A dental emergency 6 weeks ago hit me with a cascade of things, and I am sure the thick yellow yunk on my tongue is candida. My diet is already SO limited from allergies and now SCD that I was unwilling to give up fruit. I have given up all sugars and heavy starches. But my tongue is getting better anyhow and you know why? I have added coconut oil to my diet, but not cut the fruits in any way and I eat plenty. Coconut oil (must be virgin coconut oil to retain the therapeutic properties) is anti-fungal. And....over this past few weeks most of that candida-tongue has disappeared.So, just an idea athat you might try. Of course we should all be on a good diet anyhow for any kind of healing and that always means cut the wheat, sugars, junks stuff etc as a minimum. But, you can sneak into a better diet just like anything else if it's overwhelming to do it all at once.Good luck, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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