Guest guest Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 -- :-) Wow, I just can't imagine apple cider vinegar working to eliminate candida overgrowth at all. I've just recently had a spinach and tomato salad with vinegar dressing -- within a short time afterward I felt the candida 'drunkenness' come upon me, from having consumed the small amount of vinegar that was in the dressing. In fact, that was one of the clinchers for me that my candida overgrowth is not gone yet. An hour or so later I ate a pickle and the candida 'drunkenness' got considerably worse. More proof in the pudding, I'd say. So, I'd be hesitant to take anything with any vinegar in it, for treating candida overgrowth, considering recent events in my life. In any case, I think I'll go read up on this particular topic myself. If you have some links to post on this issue, do you think you might list them here sometime? (Thanks.) Cecilia :+) ------------------------------------------------------------- Apple Cider Vinegar >I am new to this group. I have dealing with this issue for a while now. I > have hypoglycemia and I think that doesn't help my situation. Someone > mentioned the benefits of apple cider vinegar and so I went on the web to > do > some research. What I have read so far sounds promising. Has anyone > tried > this on foods, etc. I am very curious. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 12, 2005 Report Share Posted November 12, 2005 Update: Here's a web page on this topic, for anyone interested: http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html Now I'm considering that it might not have been just the vinegar in the salad dressing that I had in the past week, but also the probable sugar content, as well. (Someone brought me this salad from a restaurant, so I have no idea what dressing was actually used on it, or I'd check labels, etc.) Interesting thought, though! I want to hear from other people who've tried this Apple Cider Remedy for candida before I give a try, myself. Cecilia :+) ------------------------------------------------------------------- Apple Cider Vinegar >I am new to this group. I have dealing with this issue for a while now. I > have hypoglycemia and I think that doesn't help my situation. Someone > mentioned the benefits of apple cider vinegar and so I went on the web to > do > some research. What I have read so far sounds promising. Has anyone > tried > this on foods, etc. I am very curious. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 13, 2005 Report Share Posted November 13, 2005 Thanks for the URL. That is a good site for info on Sinuses, Aspartame, as well as the Apple Cider Vinegar, Gout, Joint Pain and many other things. Blessings Shan > Date: Sat, 12 Nov 2005 13:00:07 -0600 > From: " cc8663subscription " <cc8663subscription@...> > Subject: Re: Apple Cider Vinegar > > > Update: > > Here's a web page on this topic, for anyone interested: > > http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar.html > > Now I'm considering that it might not have been just the vinegar in the > salad dressing that I had in the past week, but also the probable sugar > content, as well. (Someone brought me this salad from a restaurant, so I > have no idea what dressing was actually used on it, or I'd check labels, > etc.) > > Interesting thought, though! I want to hear from other people who've tried > this Apple Cider Remedy for candida before I give a try, myself. > > > Cecilia Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 14, 2005 Report Share Posted November 14, 2005 Ive never used ACV for candida, but I did use it for weight loss. It stabalizes your blood sugars which make it so you dont crave. But I used the natural pills, not the raw stuff (I dont like the taste!). Dulcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 15, 2005 Report Share Posted November 15, 2005 I'm interested in trying ACV. I've heard that one way to take it is in hot water, in lieu of coffee, which will make you feel " energized, not adrenalized " . Now, is it important to give up coffee if I want to see health benefits from any dietary/supplementary regime? I consider myself a mild sufferer of candida related problems ( " feminine itching " , bad skin), who is also terrified at giving up coffee. But, will it be worth it? (I'm cheered by the assurance that ACV eases sugar cravings, because those make it near impossible for me to be " good " , diet-wise) Dulcie <railroadwife1995@...> wrote:Ive never used ACV for candida, but I did use it for weight loss. It stabalizes your blood sugars which make it so you dont crave. But I used the natural pills, not the raw stuff (I dont like the taste!). Dulcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 From what I understood, apple cider vinegar is extremely fermented and thus contributes to candidiasis. My dr. told me to stay away from anything that was fermented which includes any kind of vinegar, salad dressing, mayonaise, katsup, bbq sauce, etc. Maybe someone on the board knows more than I do about the subject. Re: Apple Cider Vinegar I'm interested in trying ACV. I've heard that one way to take it is in hot water, in lieu of coffee, which will make you feel " energized, not adrenalized " . Now, is it important to give up coffee if I want to see health benefits from any dietary/supplementary regime? I consider myself a mild sufferer of candida related problems ( " feminine itching " , bad skin), who is also terrified at giving up coffee. But, will it be worth it? (I'm cheered by the assurance that ACV eases sugar cravings, because those make it near impossible for me to be " good " , diet-wise) Dulcie <railroadwife1995@...> wrote:Ive never used ACV for candida, but I did use it for weight loss. It stabalizes your blood sugars which make it so you dont crave. But I used the natural pills, not the raw stuff (I dont like the taste!). Dulcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 You are right on. I'm 31 and have lived with Candida symptoms since birth. I was 29 when I finally found the problem from a simple blood test (grr). Anyway, in the last 2 years I have learned alot. If a person stays away from sugar, yeast containing foods, alcohol (and any fermented food), and concentrates on bolstering their immune system with vitamins and excerise of any kind they will not have a problem with Candida period. But staying away from all that stuff has proved almost as hard to deal with (for me) as the symptoms. I am 6 months into allergy shots now and i'm hopin over the next couple years it will make a difference. But this is certainly a hell of a fight. > > From what I understood, apple cider vinegar is extremely fermented and thus contributes to candidiasis. My dr. told me to stay away from anything that was fermented which includes any kind of vinegar, salad dressing, mayonaise, katsup, bbq sauce, etc. > > Maybe someone on the board knows more than I do about the subject. > > > Re: Apple Cider Vinegar > > > I'm interested in trying ACV. I've heard that one way to take it is in hot water, in lieu of coffee, which will make you feel " energized, not adrenalized " . Now, is it important to give up coffee if I want to see health benefits from any dietary/supplementary regime? I consider myself a mild sufferer of candida related problems ( " feminine itching " , bad skin), who is also terrified at giving up coffee. But, will it be worth it? (I'm cheered by the assurance that ACV eases sugar cravings, because those make it near impossible for me to be " good " , diet-wise) > > Dulcie <railroadwife1995@g...> wrote:Ive never used ACV for candida, but I did use it for weight loss. It stabalizes your blood sugars which make it so you dont crave. But I used the natural pills, not the raw stuff (I dont like the taste!). Dulcie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Okay heres what I came up... ACV, organic, is used to cure yeast infections in certain areas. But certain brands can cause yeast infections. Therefore its not recommended in treating yeast infections. Dulcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 It has to be the apple cider vinegar with the mother. Look on the bottle to see if it says with mother. If so then that's the one you want. It works well in an enema to get lots of the yukkies out. Dulcie <railroadwife1995@...> wrote: Okay heres what I came up... ACV, organic, is used to cure yeast infections in certain areas. But certain brands can cause yeast infections. Therefore its not recommended in treating yeast infections. Dulcie --------------------------------- Find your next car at Canada Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 That is interesting that your doctor should have said that. There is a very good recipe for fermented Cabbage by Bee Wilder in the Group Files here. I understood that Bee Wilder was quite knowledgable about Candida? And why would there be an article about something which contributed to candida in an candida group? I understood fermented foods, such as kombucha, yogurt , kefir, fermented vegetables, etc were good for those with candida as well as a candida preventative. I have researched kombucha extensively and it is supposed to be good for candida - though I have not researched the others as much. But I thought that plain yogurt with no additives and sugar was supposed to be good as candida prevention too, if taken everyday? In fact; I have read several document recommending taking yogurt everyday for those with candida. Yogurt is fermented. But I to have heard doctors say similar things. Many doctors seem to say things without any true knowledge of what they are talking about - especially allopathic doctors it seems in my experiance. But not all allopathis doctors believe everything they are told. I read a very amusing article the other day about a doctor whom 'cured' Adult ADD/ADHD. He knew it didn't exist and didn't believe in it despite being told by the medical establichment that it did exist in many people. This came from Co-Cure. As a lecturer who found himself confronted with students who had been diagnosed with the newly discovered condition, Adult ADHD, Dr. Mike S. described how he cures it in an article which he called (strangely!) " How I Cured Adult ADHD " . http://www.dradams.org/articles/20050907.html Blessings Shan > Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2005 17:00:53 -0500 > From: " Cin " <2cin@...> > Subject: Re: Apple Cider Vinegar > > From what I understood, apple cider vinegar is extremely fermented and thus > contributes to candidiasis. My dr. told me to stay away from anything that > was fermented which includes any kind of vinegar, salad dressing, mayonaise, > katsup, bbq sauce, etc. > > Maybe someone on the board knows more than I do about the subject. > > > Re: Apple Cider Vinegar > > > I'm interested in trying ACV. I've heard that one way to take it is in hot > water, in lieu of coffee, which will make you feel " energized, not > adrenalized " . Now, is it important to give up coffee if I want to see health benefits > from any dietary/supplementary regime? I consider myself a mild sufferer of > candida related problems ( " feminine itching " , bad skin), who is also > terrified at giving up coffee. But, will it be worth it? (I'm cheered by the > assurance that ACV eases sugar cravings, because those make it near impossible for > me to be " good " , diet-wise) > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 " curing yeast infections by taking 2 TBLSP of Apple Cider Vinegar in water 3x day. (Note: certain acv brands can stop a yeast infection, yet some brands are so acidic that they can actually cause a yeast infection. Thus start with a lower dose to see how your body responds to the vinegar. Note: If you have Vaginitis, do not take apple cider vinegar as it will make it much worse. Instead, take a folic acid supplement, which will cure vaginitis in a day or two. " http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar html Dulcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Greetings.. newbie here Thought I would change focus in and try to resolve some long time health issues. Hope to learn as well as share ideas. Ideas from naturopathic books, channelled books as well as what I've observed in myself. According to a walk-in vega test center I have a 10 out of 20 reading candida count. For me I definately can't handle any vinegar and have found that lemon juice in salads is a great alternative. Willem Dulcie wrote: >Okay heres what I came up... >ACV, organic, is used to cure yeast infections in certain areas. But certain >brands can cause yeast infections. Therefore its not recommended in treating >yeast infections. Dulcie > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Dulcie, Hello, where can I buy the good one , the organic one that everyone is talking about is there a place on line for this? Love and Light Blessings too! -Blakeslee Http://www.loveandlight.com healingheartshaven bereavement group for Moms and Dads that have lost children http://groups.msn.com/LoveLight 's Mom Forever and Always Http://www.carrieshope.com Re: Apple Cider Vinegar " curing yeast infections by taking 2 TBLSP of Apple Cider Vinegar in water 3x day. (Note: certain acv brands can stop a yeast infection, yet some brands are so acidic that they can actually cause a yeast infection. Thus start with a lower dose to see how your body responds to the vinegar. Note: If you have Vaginitis, do not take apple cider vinegar as it will make it much worse. Instead, take a folic acid supplement, which will cure vaginitis in a day or two. " http://www.earthclinic.com/Remedies/acvinegar html Dulcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Health food stores would carry the organic ACV. You want it to have the floaties in it. Dulcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Dulcie, This one is ok then? Omega Nutrition's certified organic Apple Cider vinegar is of exceptional quality and flavor. Their Apple Cider Vinegar is produced the " old fashioned " way. Unpasteurized and unfiltered to preserve its nutritional value. Contains pectins, trace minerals (including potassium), beneficial bacteria and enzymes. Full strength (5% acidity). Contains " mother " which is formed naturally by the bacteria in unpasteurized vinegar. Vinegar containing mother is not harmful or spoiled. Packed in opaque non-reactive bottles to protect nutrients from breakdown by light and free radical production due to photo-oxidation. Use in salad dressings, sauces, marinades and pickling. Love and Light Blessings too! -Blakeslee healingheartshaven bereavement group for Moms and Dads that have lost children 's Mom Forever and Always Http://www.carrieshope.com Re: Apple Cider Vinegar Health food stores would carry the organic ACV. You want it to have the floaties in it. Dulcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 , Yep that should be a good one since it still has the mother. Dulcie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I haven't started my Candida diet but I have December 1st marked down as my start date. I went to the grocery store to look for some products I would be able to eat. Needless to say, I left there feeling pretty down....going through the Mc's drive thru made me feel a bit better. Revo, having been finally diagnosed, starting the diet and going for shots....has it made a difference? Do you feel better? Re: Apple Cider Vinegar You are right on. I'm 31 and have lived with Candida symptoms since birth. I was 29 when I finally found the problem from a simple blood test (grr). Anyway, in the last 2 years I have learned alot. If a person stays away from sugar, yeast containing foods, alcohol (and any fermented food), and concentrates on bolstering their immune system with vitamins and excerise of any kind they will not have a problem with Candida period. But staying away from all that stuff has proved almost as hard to deal with (for me) as the symptoms. I am 6 months into allergy shots now and i'm hopin over the next couple years it will make a difference. But this is certainly a hell of a fight. > > From what I understood, apple cider vinegar is extremely fermented and thus contributes to candidiasis. My dr. told me to stay away from anything that was fermented which includes any kind of vinegar, salad dressing, mayonaise, katsup, bbq sauce, etc. > > Maybe someone on the board knows more than I do about the subject. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 I just had apple cider vingar this morning, thinking it was good for me!!!!! oh well. I now know better. Has anyone here taken capyrlic acid? I just started taking it today. Thanks > > I haven't started my Candida diet but I have December 1st marked down as my start date. I went to the grocery store to look for some products I would be able to eat. Needless to say, I left there feeling pretty down....going through the Mc's drive thru made me feel a bit better. > > Revo, having been finally diagnosed, starting the diet and going for shots....has it made a difference? Do you feel better? > > Re: Apple Cider Vinegar > > > You are right on. I'm 31 and have lived with Candida symptoms since > birth. I was 29 when I finally found the problem from a simple blood > test (grr). Anyway, in the last 2 years I have learned alot. If a > person stays away from sugar, yeast containing foods, alcohol (and > any fermented food), and concentrates on bolstering their immune > system with vitamins and excerise of any kind they will not have a > problem with Candida period. But staying away from all that stuff has > proved almost as hard to deal with (for me) as the symptoms. I am 6 > months into allergy shots now and i'm hopin over the next couple > years it will make a difference. But this is certainly a hell of a > fight. > > > > From what I understood, apple cider vinegar is extremely fermented > and thus contributes to candidiasis. My dr. told me to stay away > from anything that was fermented which includes any kind of vinegar, > salad dressing, mayonaise, katsup, bbq sauce, etc. > > > > Maybe someone on the board knows more than I do about the subject. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 ACV is good so long as it's the one that contains " mother " . Omega nutrition is the one I get from the health section. Caprilic acid tabs are supposed to help but I never felt a difference with them myself. <octobershine@...> wrote: I just had apple cider vingar this morning, thinking it was good for me!!!!! oh well. I now know better. Has anyone here taken capyrlic acid? I just started taking it today. Thanks --------------------------------- Find your next car at Canada Autos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 22, 2005 Report Share Posted November 22, 2005 It depends on how severe my candida overgrowth is to how I respond to Caprylic Acid tablets and capsules; and it depends on where the overgrowth is, as well. Ecological Formulas brand is the one I use. The capsules are for dealing with candida in the upper intestines, and the tablets are used for treating the lower intestines. I've noticed that as the candida are killed off one tablet and one capsule after each meal doesn't bring on as much Herxheimer Reaction (candida die-off) as they did in the very beginning ... that it takes two or three tablets and two or three capsules after a meal before I notice those flu-like Herxheimer Reaction symptoms again. Generally, though, if I eat something that triggers a candida reaction ....like if I eat a pickle or if I accidentally ingest something that contains a little too much sugar and I get the ensuing brain fog/candida drunkenness ... if I take enough caprylic acid (or enough Nystatin) immediately afterward, either of those products will help me regain most of my consciousness (taken along with a magnesium tablet). The trick is figuring out how much to take; and that's always a trial and error thing, of course. (It's easy to take too little of an organic and not realize that a slight increase would work wonders.) Cecilia :+) ------------------------------------------------------------------------- Re: Re: Apple Cider Vinegar > ACV is good so long as it's the one that contains " mother " . Omega > nutrition is the one I get from the health section. > > Caprilic acid tabs are supposed to help but I never felt a difference > with them myself. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 14, 2006 Report Share Posted February 14, 2006 If you have candida, lemon juice is recommended, however if you can get a good unfiltered unpasterized vinegar like Braggs it is okay. Other vinegars are not - it's listed under the section on Yeasty, Moldy, & Fungi-Type Foods not allowed. Bee > > Is apple cider vinegar okay to use on salads or in drinks? > Thanks. Mz ViOlet > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 13, 2006 Report Share Posted March 13, 2006 ~ a few notes on using apple cider vinegar... when people mention *good* apple cider vinegar for candida diet, its really really important that it must be raw, not pasteurized, unfiltered and organic if possible. (it will have sediment at the bottom and if you shake or tip the bottle, the liquid well get cloudy as you stir up the sediment). the raw a.c.v. is lacto fermented, the same process as making rejuvelac or the sauerkraut recipes. so some folks will get digestive reactions such as gas, bloating etc from it as it mixes with all the other critters in the pipes. others may experience a better digestive process from the addition of the lacto-fermanted bacteria - we all have different processes of healing and healing reactions depending on what is out of balance in our system. but you can get the same beneficial bacterias from rejuvelac and homemade krauts. braggs is one brand that makes this kind of vinegar, but there are numerous others out there as well, usually only found in a health food store. the ones in most grocery stores (and even many brands in health stores) are cooked and processed so that there are no healing benefits and, in fact, will only feed the candida problem the way alcohol or sugar does. like bee mentions below, there are more important aspects to the over- all healing diet, and good healthy fats are at the top of that food list. ~ suz > > I've heard that good Apple Cider Vinegar can help heal the gut > lining. Have you heard this? Will it help or is it too acidic or > feed the yeast? Last time I tried some it gave me stomach ache but I > think I probably had too much at once. > > ==>I've had misgivings about recommending a good vinegar, like > Bragg's that is unfiltered and unpasteurized, but many candida > sufferers do okay on it so go ahead. Good saturated fats, i.e. > butter, coconut oil, lard, etc. are much more important for healing > the gut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 21, 2006 Report Share Posted March 21, 2006 > > Hi, is apple cider vinegar ok to use on the candida diet? I have read the files etc, and sorry if I have missed anything on apple cider > vinegar! I have a bottle of it, and used to sometimes use a tablespoon of it in a big glass of warm water. ==>It is okay if it is unfiltered and unpasteurized, i.e. Bragg's. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2007 Report Share Posted January 28, 2007 I meant he was using apple cider vinegar not apple cider. > Pat in Kalamazoo > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2007 Report Share Posted January 29, 2007 > > I have a friend who has candida. I gave him a copy of the overcoming candida article. I don't think he read it all and is still trying many things. The other day he remembered an old time remedy that he thought he would resurrect. Apple cider and garlic. He made up a quart (not remembering the recipe correctly he made it straight rather than a dilution of 2 tbl to 1 quart water) and had been sipping on it. He said after a couple of days he started to itch. Within just a couple hours his back started to swell then his whole body especially the private parts. Lasted 2 days. He won't do that again and is looking at the article a bit closer lol. ==>Pat, that's funny. Actually apple cider vinegar and garlic would create healing reactions, including histamines which causes swelling, itching, etc. Unfortunately without nutrients it wouldn't do him much good. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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