Apple Cider Vinegar

[Guest guest]

Funny the difference in individuals. Raw ACV (such as Bragg's etc) gives

me severe diarrhea, which can last for hours or even a whole day. Honey

has done the same thing to me, btw.

Kefir does the same thing.

I don't know why, but it is frustrating that all these things said to

help with GI so much just make me suffer even worse.

sol

wrote:

> Ok....

>

> ..drastically reduced flatulence

> ..better-formed, bulkier stools

> ..less " urgency "

>

[Guest guest]

Gail wrote:

>

> ....... During fermentation, the yeasts ferment the sugars into

> alcohol. By the time something has been fermented into vinegar, there

> are no more yeasts or sugars to worry about.

How can that be true, when un-pasteurized " raw " ACV does contain the

" mother " which is living colonies of bacteria/yeasts? If there were no

yeasts, the mother would be dead? If there were no sugars at all left,

the mother would also die. Just like Kefir grains will die if not fed?

sol

[Guest guest]

Great email Sol about the ACV, maybe someone will tell us about possible yeasts.

Bonnie

Re: Re:Apple Cider Vinegar

Gail wrote:

>

> ....... During fermentation, the yeasts ferment the sugars into

> alcohol. By the time something has been fermented into vinegar, there

> are no more yeasts or sugars to worry about.

How can that be true, when un-pasteurized " raw " ACV does contain the

" mother " which is living colonies of bacteria/yeasts? If there were no

yeasts, the mother would be dead? If there were no sugars at all left,

the mother would also die. Just like Kefir grains will die if not fed?

sol

[Guest guest]

I don't know cause I'm not a chemist . But everything I've read

states that the yeast ferments the sugars into alcohol and then

specific bacteria break down the alcohol into acetic acid. The " mother "

is accumulation of a nontoxic slime composed of acetic acid bacteria

and soluble cellulose.

I've also read that people who have adverse reactions when taking ACV

could be experiencing die-off of the yeast in the intestines, and that

if there are reactions one should drink more water with it.

Gail

> >

> > ....... During fermentation, the yeasts ferment the sugars into

> > alcohol. By the time something has been fermented into vinegar,

there

> > are no more yeasts or sugars to worry about.

> How can that be true, when un-pasteurized " raw " ACV does contain the

> " mother " which is living colonies of bacteria/yeasts? If there were

no

> yeasts, the mother would be dead? If there were no sugars at all

left,

> the mother would also die. Just like Kefir grains will die if not fed?

> sol

>

[Guest guest]

You're right sol, there are yeasts in natural vinegar, and if you

dilute the acidity and add food they will start to work it again. I

had missed the incorrect post; the acidity stops growth, it does not

kill the bacteria and yeasts outright.

Duncan

> >

> > ....... During fermentation, the yeasts ferment the sugars into

> > alcohol. By the time something has been fermented into vinegar,

there

> > are no more yeasts or sugars to worry about.

> How can that be true, when un-pasteurized " raw " ACV does contain the

> " mother " which is living colonies of bacteria/yeasts? If there were

no

> yeasts, the mother would be dead? If there were no sugars at all

left,

> the mother would also die. Just like Kefir grains will die if not

fed?

> sol

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

I'm new to the forum but just wanted to share my two cents about

kombucha. I've been drinking GTs kombucha (16 oz bottle/day) and I've

never felt better. I usually buy the green food (chlorella,

lactobacillus, etc.) or the gingerade flavor. I'm making other

dietary changes as well but kombucha does not affect me adversely. If

anything, it gives me a pretty good energy boost and clears my head

between lunch and dinner although it is not caffeinated.

I was also on Bee's forum and just could not agree with her about

this. Maybe other folks have problems with it?

Thanks,

Giulia

> >

> > Bobby, the " avoid fermented items " myth has been revised to

include

> > alcohol, old cheese, dry wine, vinegar, yogurt, kefir, kombucha

and

> > other fermented foods. Mileage may vary.

> >

> > Duncan

> >

>

> I remember on the other candida forum the moderator

> refused to post a post where I asked about Kombucha as to whether

it

> is okay to consume. I, rather, simply got a message from her

telling

> me that it is simply not good for candida sufferers. It

contradicted

> my personal experience. Needless to say, I left that group. I

also

> didn't have any problems with kefir, but I, unfortunately, can't

buy

> it here nor can I buy kombucha in this country. If I were in

Japan,

> I could drink it there no problem. The Koreans don't drink it, but

> they have kimchee which is definitely a good thing about living in

> this country. I do plan on making yogurt cheese. I will be

> purchasing a yogurt maker shortly and fermenting the yogurt further

> to make Labneh which is a Syrian yogurt cheese.

>

[Guest guest]

>

> If you try the apple cider vinegar cure, and it worsen your symptoms

and gives you yellow stools is this good or bad?

>

> someone had me try that this past winter and I got worse. im confused

on whether this was die off or it was making my yeast worse. as with

everything else I stopped after a week cause I got so sick. it also

made me feel more drunk and out of it.

Hi there. What is your name please? Some candida sufferers aren't

able to tolerate apple cider vinegar, so that was good you stopped

having it.

In any case candida cannot be cured by killing it off. It is only

cured by building up the immune system with proper nutrients (my diet &

supplements) and by eliminating toxins, foods that feed candida and

foods that are damaging.

I recommend you read " How To Successfully Overcome Candida " so you

understand all about candida, why it overgrows, the damage it causes,

and the diet and supplements necessary and why:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/candida/index.php

Also read " Curing Candida, How to Get Started " ;

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/intro1.php

After you read please get back to us with questions or concerns. We

are here to help you get well too, like many of us! See the many

Success Stories by the members of this group:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/success/index.php

The best in health, Bee

[Guest guest]

Felt the need to chime in here. My dad who is 78, drinks a mixture

of apple cider vinegar, grape juice, and applejuice. It's

called " Joggin' in a Jug " down here in the south. He fixes up a big

container of it and has a shot of it every morning, no matter what!

He certainly doesn't " jog " , but says he's afraid to stop drinking it

b/c he's been doing it for so long. It's bound to be good for ya and

God bless anyone who can swallow it w/o gagging! I admire your

courage to give it a try, Kay.

camille

>

> Hey Kay,

>

> My Grandma was a big believer in Apple Cider Vinegar, she made a

drink with it, and drank it a couple times a day. She'd put three

tablespoons of vinegar and three tablespoons of honey into a eight

ounce glass of water and drink it. It's an aquired taste, but I drink

it from time to time, memories of her. She was a spry old lady, drove

up till her late eighties, and lived into her nineties, and always

said she was healthy as a horse because of the Cider Vinegar,

something she learned from her people way back. Maybe crap, but she

sure believed in it, and of course I'd sure look into the medical

basis of it.

>

>

> RE: [ ] Re: To Kay about odditie

>

>

>

> Thanks, Cam. I guess my reasons for pulling back somewhat have

been because I'm grappling with a situation that's only peripherally

related to my back. Since this is the FB forum.well, I've remained

mostly mum about it.

>

> Fact is that after I lost my kidney to cancer in November 2007 (9

months after my revision surgery in February 2007-on Valentine's Day,

actually), I'm still fighting high blood pressure issues that

threaten my one remaining kidney. Three rather high-dose kidney/BP

meds are mostly effective but my BP still spikes often into dangerous

territory. Added to this is the reality that my only kidney is still

not fully functioning after taking on the whole load of

responsibility.

>

> And we just spent a bit of a stressful weekend trying to

determine what to do because for the past three days my BP has gone

up and stayed there in spite of all the meds I take. It's upsetting

and a wee bit frightening for us. My husband got online and

researched for several hours. He came downstairs to tell me about

apple cider vinegar and its apparent success at lowering BP for many

folks. So I started taking it yesterday. We'll see if it has any

impact on my situation.

>

> I was approved for social security disability-amazingly enough

after the first try-because I have both back and somewhat severe

kidney issues.

>

> I am so pleased with the outcome of my revision surgery and would

do it again in a heartbeat. I'm always asked this question when folks

watch me try to retrieve things after I've dropped them, etc. Because

of my own experiences with " those " questions from folks, I have been

particularly interested in all the stories the rest of you have

offered as to the most amazing things (well, insulting too,

sometimes) people ask. Most of them, I suspect, are truly ignorant of

our situation and really don't mean anything nasty by what they say.

Sometime people open their mouths and speak before thinking about the

impact of their words.

>

> As for me and my back situation, while I'm so much better than I

was before, limitations linger. Like sitting. I still can't sit for

long without significant discomfort and that doesn't appear to want

to change. Makes travel very difficult if I need to be sitting longer

than an hour. I walk on my treadmill a lot throughout the day to get

exercise and when the days are nice I go out.

>

> Well, sort of. I'm a terrible recluse and rarely leave the house

unless I just can't get out of doing otherwise.

>

> That's pretty much it for me-except for the topic of people,

especially those you thought were closest to you, suddenly becoming

non-existent when you are facing these situations. It happened to me

with someone pivotal in my life whom I thought would be there but who

chose not to be. Didn't see or hear from the person for months. And

when I did, it appeared that I should keep my conversation on a very

superficial level because it was clear no details or bad news about

my situation was wanted. Anyway it does hurt when things are so one-

sided. I'm still trying to work out how I should deal with the

situation because I love this person very much.

>

> I appreciate the rest of you who have addressed this issue and

those that will be forthcoming. The good news is that my husband was

my rock, and has been, throughout everything. We've become even

closer-hard to imagine-and so blessings can and do arise out of some

very painful situations.

>

> So back to you, Cam, thank you for your encouragement and kind

words. , you too, are always quick with them and have been a

lovely friend throughout this whole thing.

>

> Sorry for the long post. Someone left the typing gate open.

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks, Camille. I had to do something. My

BP started dipping into the “normal” range after the first day of

taking the ACV. More normal readings on the second day. By the third day, all

readings were normal and have remained in the normal range ever since. My

husband and I are utterly stunned. We cannot see it as some coincidence. It

seems to be so simple a solution so we’re wondering why on earth it wasn’t

mentioned before (doctors).

Anyway, I’m extremely grateful

that the regimen has been successful for me. I had begun to be very worried,

and I confess, afraid about what might happen should I not be able to get it

down.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of fourteencows

Sent: Wednesday, September 10,

2008 10:58 AM

Subject: [ ] Re:

apple cider vinegar

Felt the need to chime in here. My dad who is 78,

drinks a mixture

of apple cider vinegar, grape juice, and applejuice. It's

called " Joggin' in a Jug " down here in the south. He fixes up a big

container of it and has a shot of it every morning, no matter what!

He certainly doesn't " jog " , but says he's afraid to stop drinking it

b/c he's been doing it for so long. It's bound to be good for ya and

God bless anyone who can swallow it w/o gagging! I admire your

courage to give it a try, Kay.

camille

>

> Hey Kay,

>

> My Grandma was a big believer in Apple Cider Vinegar, she made a

drink with it, and drank it a couple times a day. She'd put three

tablespoons of vinegar and three tablespoons of honey into a eight

ounce glass of water and drink it. It's an aquired taste, but I drink

it from time to time, memories of her. She was a spry old lady, drove

up till her late eighties, and lived into her nineties, and always

said she was healthy as a horse because of the Cider Vinegar,

something she learned from her people way back. Maybe crap, but she

sure believed in it, and of course I'd sure look into the medical

basis of it.

>

>

> RE: [ ] Re: To Kay about odditie

>

>

>

> Thanks, Cam. I guess my reasons for

pulling back somewhat have

been because I'm grappling with a situation that's only peripherally

related to my back. Since this is the FB forum.well, I've remained

mostly mum about it.

>

> Fact is that after I lost my kidney to cancer in November 2007 (9

months after my revision surgery in February 2007-on Valentine's Day,

actually), I'm still fighting high blood pressure issues that

threaten my one remaining kidney. Three rather high-dose kidney/BP

meds are mostly effective but my BP still spikes often into dangerous

territory. Added to this is the reality that my only kidney is still

not fully functioning after taking on the whole load of

responsibility.

>

> And we just spent a bit of a stressful weekend trying to

determine what to do because for the past three days my BP has gone

up and stayed there in spite of all the meds I take. It's upsetting

and a wee bit frightening for us. My husband got online and

researched for several hours. He came downstairs to tell me about

apple cider vinegar and its apparent success at lowering BP for many

folks. So I started taking it yesterday. We'll see if it has any

impact on my situation.

>

> I was approved for social security disability-amazingly enough

after the first try-because I have both back and somewhat severe

kidney issues.

>

> I am so pleased with the outcome of my revision surgery and would

do it again in a heartbeat. I'm always asked this question when folks

watch me try to retrieve things after I've dropped them, etc. Because

of my own experiences with " those " questions from folks, I have been

particularly interested in all the stories the rest of you have

offered as to the most amazing things (well, insulting too,

sometimes) people ask. Most of them, I suspect, are truly ignorant of

our situation and really don't mean anything nasty by what they say.

Sometime people open their mouths and speak before thinking about the

impact of their words.

>

> As for me and my back situation, while I'm so much better than I

was before, limitations linger. Like sitting. I still can't sit for

long without significant discomfort and that doesn't appear to want

to change. Makes travel very difficult if I need to be sitting longer

than an hour. I walk on my treadmill a lot throughout the day to get

exercise and when the days are nice I go out.

>

> Well, sort of. I'm a terrible recluse and rarely leave the house

unless I just can't get out of doing otherwise.

>

> That's pretty much it for me-except for the topic of people,

especially those you thought were closest to you, suddenly becoming

non-existent when you are facing these situations. It happened to me

with someone pivotal in my life whom I thought would be there but who

chose not to be. Didn't see or hear from the person for months. And

when I did, it appeared that I should keep my conversation on a very

superficial level because it was clear no details or bad news about

my situation was wanted. Anyway it does hurt when things are so one-

sided. I'm still trying to work out how I should deal with the

situation because I love this person very much.

>

> I appreciate the rest of you who have addressed this issue and

those that will be forthcoming. The good news is that my husband was

my rock, and has been, throughout everything. We've become even

closer-hard to imagine-and so blessings can and do arise out of some

very painful situations.

>

> So back to you, Cam, thank you for your

encouragement and kind

words. , you too, are always quick with them and have been a

lovely friend throughout this whole thing.

>

> Sorry for the long post. Someone left the typing gate open.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Kay!

That is wonderful news!! What are the exact measurements for

the " brew " . I also have some blood pressure difficulties (sometimes

high, sometimes normal = borderline/high BP)so perhaps I should give

it a try? I'll look back and see if you already posted the " recipe " !!

I'm thrilled for you!!

D. (RI)

> >

> > Hey Kay,

> >

> > My Grandma was a big believer in Apple Cider Vinegar, she made a

> drink with it, and drank it a couple times a day. She'd put three

> tablespoons of vinegar and three tablespoons of honey into a eight

> ounce glass of water and drink it. It's an aquired taste, but I

drink

> it from time to time, memories of her. She was a spry old lady,

drove

> up till her late eighties, and lived into her nineties, and always

> said she was healthy as a horse because of the Cider Vinegar,

> something she learned from her people way back. Maybe crap, but she

> sure believed in it, and of course I'd sure look into the medical

> basis of it.

> >

> >

> > RE: [ ] Re: To Kay about odditie

> >

> >

> >

> > Thanks, Cam. I guess my reasons for pulling back somewhat have

> been because I'm grappling with a situation that's only

peripherally

> related to my back. Since this is the FB forum.well, I've remained

> mostly mum about it.

> >

> > Fact is that after I lost my kidney to cancer in November 2007 (9

> months after my revision surgery in February 2007-on Valentine's

Day,

> actually), I'm still fighting high blood pressure issues that

> threaten my one remaining kidney. Three rather high-dose kidney/BP

> meds are mostly effective but my BP still spikes often into

dangerous

> territory. Added to this is the reality that my only kidney is

still

> not fully functioning after taking on the whole load of

> responsibility.

> >

> > And we just spent a bit of a stressful weekend trying to

> determine what to do because for the past three days my BP has gone

> up and stayed there in spite of all the meds I take. It's upsetting

> and a wee bit frightening for us. My husband got online and

> researched for several hours. He came downstairs to tell me about

> apple cider vinegar and its apparent success at lowering BP for

many

> folks. So I started taking it yesterday. We'll see if it has any

> impact on my situation.

> >

> > I was approved for social security disability-amazingly enough

> after the first try-because I have both back and somewhat severe

> kidney issues.

> >

> > I am so pleased with the outcome of my revision surgery and would

> do it again in a heartbeat. I'm always asked this question when

folks

> watch me try to retrieve things after I've dropped them, etc.

Because

> of my own experiences with " those " questions from folks, I have

been

> particularly interested in all the stories the rest of you have

> offered as to the most amazing things (well, insulting too,

> sometimes) people ask. Most of them, I suspect, are truly ignorant

of

> our situation and really don't mean anything nasty by what they

say.

> Sometime people open their mouths and speak before thinking about

the

> impact of their words.

> >

> > As for me and my back situation, while I'm so much better than I

> was before, limitations linger. Like sitting. I still can't sit for

> long without significant discomfort and that doesn't appear to want

> to change. Makes travel very difficult if I need to be sitting

longer

> than an hour. I walk on my treadmill a lot throughout the day to

get

> exercise and when the days are nice I go out.

> >

> > Well, sort of. I'm a terrible recluse and rarely leave the house

> unless I just can't get out of doing otherwise.

> >

> > That's pretty much it for me-except for the topic of people,

> especially those you thought were closest to you, suddenly becoming

> non-existent when you are facing these situations. It happened to

me

> with someone pivotal in my life whom I thought would be there but

who

> chose not to be. Didn't see or hear from the person for months. And

> when I did, it appeared that I should keep my conversation on a

very

> superficial level because it was clear no details or bad news about

> my situation was wanted. Anyway it does hurt when things are so one-

> sided. I'm still trying to work out how I should deal with the

> situation because I love this person very much.

> >

> > I appreciate the rest of you who have addressed this issue and

> those that will be forthcoming. The good news is that my husband

was

> my rock, and has been, throughout everything. We've become even

> closer-hard to imagine-and so blessings can and do arise out of

some

> very painful situations.

> >

> > So back to you, Cam, thank you for your encouragement and kind

> words. , you too, are always quick with them and have been a

> lovely friend throughout this whole thing.

> >

> > Sorry for the long post. Someone left the typing gate open.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hey Kay,

I'm so glad that the Apple Cider Vinegar is working for you, guess my Grandma was right, those oldtimers know a thing or two hunh! Must be so good to have that blood pressure down in the normal range, I too was concerned about you, as you have been through so much with not only a revision but loosing that kidney to cancer. Know I'm always holding a good thought for you, and it's so good to hear good news on this front!

RE: [ ] Re: To Kay about odditie> > > > Thanks, Cam. I guess my reasons for pulling back somewhat have been because I'm grappling with a situation that's only peripherally related to my back. Since this is the FB forum.well, I've remained mostly mum about it.> > Fact is that after I lost my kidney to cancer in November 2007 (9 months after my revision surgery in February 2007-on Valentine's Day, actually), I'm still fighting high blood pressure issues that threaten my one remaining kidney. Three rather high-dose kidney/BP meds are mostly effective but my BP still spikes often into dangerous territory. Added to this is the reality that my only kidney is still not fully functioning after taking on the whole load of responsibility.> > And we just spent a bit of a stressful weekend trying to determine what to do because for the past three days my BP has gone up and stayed there in spite of all the meds I take. It's upsetting and a wee bit frightening for us. My husband got online and researched for several hours. He came downstairs to tell me about apple cider vinegar and its apparent success at lowering BP for many folks. So I started taking it yesterday. We'll see if it has any impact on my situation.> > I was approved for social security disability-amazingly enough after the first try-because I have both back and somewhat severe kidney issues. > > I am so pleased with the outcome of my revision surgery and would do it again in a heartbeat. I'm always asked this question when folks watch me try to retrieve things after I've dropped them, etc. Because of my own experiences with "those" questions from folks, I have been particularly interested in all the stories the rest of you have offered as to the most amazing things (well, insulting too, sometimes) people ask. Most of them, I suspect, are truly ignorant of our situation and really don't mean anything nasty by what they say. Sometime people open their mouths and speak before thinking about the impact of their words. > > As for me and my back situation, while I'm so much better than I was before, limitations linger. Like sitting. I still can't sit for long without significant discomfort and that doesn't appear to want to change. Makes travel very difficult if I need to be sitting longer than an hour. I walk on my treadmill a lot throughout the day to get exercise and when the days are nice I go out. > > Well, sort of. I'm a terrible recluse and rarely leave the house unless I just can't get out of doing otherwise.> > That's pretty much it for me-except for the topic of people, especially those you thought were closest to you, suddenly becoming non-existent when you are facing these situations. It happened to me with someone pivotal in my life whom I thought would be there but who chose not to be. Didn't see or hear from the person for months. And when I did, it appeared that I should keep my conversation on a very superficial level because it was clear no details or bad news about my situation was wanted. Anyway it does hurt when things are so one-sided. I'm still trying to work out how I should deal with the situation because I love this person very much. > > I appreciate the rest of you who have addressed this issue and those that will be forthcoming. The good news is that my husband was my rock, and has been, throughout everything. We've become even closer-hard to imagine-and so blessings can and do arise out of some very painful situations.> > So back to you, Cam, thank you for your encouragement and kind words. , you too, are always quick with them and have been a lovely friend throughout this whole thing.> > Sorry for the long post. Someone left the typing gate open.>

[Guest guest]

I mix two tablespoons ACV with about ½ tablespoon

(+ or -) clear Karo syrup and just a little water. That concoction makes about ½

a cup. I use a straw to get it down then follow that with a glass of water and

a cracker to get the taste out of my mouth. I’d use honey—and tried

it even though I don’t like honey—and it wasn’t bad but it

burned my throat. The Karo seems to work better for me. Also the straw seems to

make it a bit more palatable. Maybe that’s because it gets past some of

the taste buds on the tongue and seems to go down much more quickly. I do this

once a day and so far that seems to be enough for me. When I read others’

“recipes” online, it all varied from teaspoons to tablespoons—sometimes

one at a time, sometimes two at a time throughout the day. Not sure what works

for everyone (if/when it works), I just found that 2 T works for me.

Good luck with it, ; I hope it

works as well for you as it has for me. Let me know.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of valerie_delaney

Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008

4:08 AM

Subject: [ ] Re:

apple cider vinegar

Hi Kay!

That is wonderful news!! What are the exact measurements for

the " brew " . I also have some blood pressure difficulties (sometimes

high, sometimes normal = borderline/high BP)so perhaps I should give

it a try? I'll look back and see if you already posted the " recipe " !!

I'm thrilled for you!!

D. (RI)

[Guest guest]

Amen to that, . It had become

alarming and I was truly scared. I felt I had pretty much had enough surgeries and

procedures last year; I wasn’t looking to go through more or go into

sudden kidney failure. That’s an experience I’d just as soon forego

if I can avoid it.

Thanks for passing on the bit about your

Grandma. Just helps add some validation, you know? All I know is that since

taking it, my BP has gone down and that in itself is a miracle. I’m so

very grateful—and relieved—for this outcome.

From: [mailto: ] On Behalf Of Kirkaldie

Sent: Monday, September 15, 2008

7:32 AM

Subject: Re: [ ]

Re: apple cider vinegar

Hey Kay,

I'm so glad that the Apple Cider Vinegar is working for you,

guess my Grandma was right, those oldtimers know a thing or two hunh! Must be

so good to have that blood pressure down in the normal range, I too was

concerned about you, as you have been through so much with not only a revision

but loosing that kidney to cancer. Know I'm always holding a good thought for

you, and it's so good to hear good news on this front!

[Guest guest]

Apple Cider Vinegar (organic & unpasturized) has helped me alot with the candida

(along with very low sugar diet & almost not wheat products). How should I be

taking it to avoid tooth sensitivity? I've tried drinking it through a straw,

but find that might not be enough. I've read somewhere if you neutralize it

with about 1/4 or less baking soda this will eliminate the acidity that's

detrimental to your teeth. I've also tested the ph & it does greatly lower the

ph, so, my question is, is this adequate to help avoid tooth damage? And to

those who take acv, what are your recommendations? Thanks.

> >

> > A lady on this list cured herself of candida by taking around 7 acv capsules

per day and around the same number of probiotic capsules in the evenings, and

cut out the sugar etc and thats all she did.

> >  

> > But the typical recommended dose that I have seen is a tablespoon of acv in

water twice a day, which is what I'm taking. Great for chronic fatigue syndrome

as well.

> >  

> > Helen

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[Guest guest]

Have you considered putting it in empty gel caps?

Luv, Debby in San , CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturallythriving.com

----- Original Message ----

> From: missygal1970

>

> Apple Cider Vinegar (organic & unpasturized) has helped me alot with the

candida

> (along with very low sugar diet & almost not wheat products). How should I be

> taking it to avoid tooth sensitivity? I've tried drinking it through a straw,

> but find that might not be enough. I've read somewhere if you neutralize it

> with about 1/4 or less baking soda this will eliminate the acidity that's

> detrimental to your teeth. I've also tested the ph & it does greatly lower

the

> ph, so, my question is, is this adequate to help avoid tooth damage? And to

> those who take acv, what are your recommendations? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

Does anyone else get bad heartburn & upset stomach with Apple Cider Vinegar?

I have it, but can't handle taking it.

_____

From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

Behalf Of Debby Padilla-Hudson

Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:39 PM

candidiasis

Subject: Re: Re: Apple Cider Vinegar

Have you considered putting it in empty gel caps?

Luv, Debby in San , CA

Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

Website: http://www.naturall <http://www.naturallythriving.com>

ythriving.com

----- Original Message ----

> From: missygal1970

>

> Apple Cider Vinegar (organic & unpasturized) has helped me alot with the

candida

> (along with very low sugar diet & almost not wheat products). How should I

be

> taking it to avoid tooth sensitivity? I've tried drinking it through a

straw,

> but find that might not be enough. I've read somewhere if you neutralize

it

> with about 1/4 or less baking soda this will eliminate the acidity that's

> detrimental to your teeth. I've also tested the ph & it does greatly lower

the

> ph, so, my question is, is this adequate to help avoid tooth damage? And

to

> those who take acv, what are your recommendations? Thanks.

[Guest guest]

I suggest that you might have hypochlorhydria, insufficient stomach acidity. It

causes reflux, and ACV is much less acidic than what should already be in there

so would not affect reflux much. If you think the ACV contains enough sugar to

affect dysbiosis and candida, change it.

Duncan

>

> Does anyone else get bad heartburn & upset stomach with Apple Cider Vinegar?

> I have it, but can't handle taking it.

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: candidiasis [mailto:candidiasis ] On

> Behalf Of Debby Padilla-Hudson

> Sent: Tuesday, May 12, 2009 5:39 PM

> candidiasis

> Subject: Re: Re: Apple Cider Vinegar

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> Have you considered putting it in empty gel caps?

>

> Luv, Debby in San , CA

> Student: Nutrition Certification and PhD in Psychology

> Website: http://www.naturall <http://www.naturallythriving.com>

> ythriving.com

>

> ----- Original Message ----

> > From: missygal1970

> >

> > Apple Cider Vinegar (organic & unpasturized) has helped me alot with the

> candida

> > (along with very low sugar diet & almost not wheat products). How should I

> be

> > taking it to avoid tooth sensitivity? I've tried drinking it through a

> straw,

> > but find that might not be enough. I've read somewhere if you neutralize

> it

> > with about 1/4 or less baking soda this will eliminate the acidity that's

> > detrimental to your teeth. I've also tested the ph & it does greatly lower

> the

> > ph, so, my question is, is this adequate to help avoid tooth damage? And

> to

> > those who take acv, what are your recommendations? Thanks.

>

>

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

>

> Dearest Bee, thank you for getting back to me about the HCI supplements-I will

order today. However, I have this gallon of Bragg ACV that I don't want to

waste--no one but me uses it- you don't recommend the acv? is this becasue it

will feed the candida? I will not take it if you say not to although I've read

that acv is a great nutrient?! I will do what you advise as I look forward to

being a success story.

+++Hi Phyllis. No, I don't think ACV feeds candida. It has been known to cause

problems for most candida sufferers, and I couldn't tolerate it when I was

curing my candida. I haven't been able to figure out why.

So it better to eliminate it for now. You can use it later on, so it will not

go to waste.

We know that most of the people following my program are not taking ACV and yet

they still get well, so ACV isn't that important, even if it does contain good

nutrients.

The best, Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Phyllis,

Can't you just keep the vinegar in the back of the fridge until you need it?

I use vinegar to bleach my counters. Don't know if acv would work as well. I do

know though that a great use for vinegar is spray it to soak weed leaves of a

sunny morning and it kills them.

Nan

>apple cider vinegar

Posted by: " phyllis431 " pnymama3@... phyllis431

Thu Jun 25, 2009 6:26 am (PDT)

Dearest Bee, thank you for getting back to me about the HCI supplements-I will

order today. However, I have this gallon of Bragg ACV that I don't want to

waste--no one but me uses it- you don't recommend the acv? is this becasue it

will feed the candida? I will not take it if you say not to although I've read

that acv is a great nutrient?! I will do what you advise as I look forward to

being a success story. Luv, Phyllis

[Guest guest]

> >

> > Dearest Bee, thank you for getting back to me about the HCI supplements-I

will order today. However, I have this gallon of Bragg ACV that I don't want to

waste--

> +++Hi Phyllis.

> So it better to eliminate it for now. You can use it later on, so it will not

go to waste.

>

> The best, Bee

Hi Phyllis,

There are other uses for ACV you can google. You can use it to clean windows-1/2

and 1/2 water, or other cleaning. Someone else may have other uses they can

give.

C.

[Guest guest]

I would like to use this vinegar but I understand

that apple cider vinegar probably has mold.

Is there an amount of Vit. C powder

that would make a quart

of ACV

OK to ingest?

Thanks.

[Guest guest]

WOAH! stop right there.

I've been following Dr. D'Adamo's blood type diet for some 5 years and know for

a fact that vinegar is an avoid for my blood tye (Type A). I took the time to

look it up prior to writing this and can report that according to his Complete

Blood Type Encyclopedia Vinegar (Apple Cider) is listed as an avoid for Type A's

because it " Provokes abnormal blood reaction. " It is Neutral for Type B and

Type O (Secretors) For Type AB it is also and avoid because " Gastric irritant;

inhibits proper digestive function. "

Now something else that needs to be explored when it comes to vinegar is to

remember it's ph value being acidic. I've been told that cancer loves an acidic

environment and can not live in an alkaline one.

For me personally I asked my ND about the different avoids and I mentioned

vinegar. He explained that it could cause me to experience joint pain. I did

experiment with it and can confirm that even a minute amount of vinegar will

result in joint pain for me.

Saurkraut is also an avoid for Type A. However, my dad used to make his own and

I ate some. It was wonderful and I continued eating it for a while. I

discovered kefir and started including that in my daily routine then all of a

sudden the saurkraut provoked a gag response from me. From that I concluded

that I needed what the saurkraut provided but once I had a source better suited

to my body - it let me know it didn't care for the saurkraut any more.

I firmly believe that ALL foods should be tested.

An easy test to do is to hold the item (packaged and still in the store is best)

with both hands around the thymus area. Imagine a pendant necklace - the thymus

would be around where the pendant would hang. Ask yourself a question " Is this

good for me? " If you feel like it's sending you backwards the answer is no. If

you feel it pulling forward then it's yes.

Do keep a clear open mind when doing this. If you aren't occasionally surprised

by the results then you may not be getting the right answers. Here's an example

- Dad was at the store and really wanted ketchup. I told him it was an avoid

but he really wanted it. He self tested and the answer was yes. He bought the

ketchup got it home and I tested him using kinesiology and it was a solid clear

avoid. While disappointed about no ketchup Dad did learn that it was important

that he tested without caring what the results were.

Cheers,

VJ

[Guest guest]

But I thought that although ACV is acidic, it actually has an alkalising effect?

Knowledgeable people please jump in here! dee

On 13 Jan 2010, at 19:35, VJ wrote:

> WOAH! stop right there.

>

> I've been following Dr. D'Adamo's blood type diet for some 5 years and know

for a fact that vinegar is an avoid for my blood tye (Type A). I took the time

to look it up prior to writing this and can report that according to his

Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia Vinegar (Apple Cider) is listed as an avoid for

Type A's because it " Provokes abnormal blood reaction. " It is Neutral for Type

B and Type O (Secretors) For Type AB it is also and avoid because " Gastric

irritant; inhibits proper digestive function. "

>

> Now something else that needs to be explored when it comes to vinegar is to

remember it's ph value being acidic. I've been told that cancer loves an acidic

environment and can not live in an alkaline one.

>

[Guest guest]

I am knowledgeable about Blood Type Diet. The reasons foods have a particular

classification (beneficial, neutral and avoid) is due to testing on each blood

type.

I probably should have NOT mentioned about acid and cancer but did feel it

should also be considered.

I know from personal experience that vinegar - ANY TYPE - will cause me

problems. I know from BTD (blood type diet) I should avoid vinegar because it

is an avoid for my blood type. (Type A)

The reason I chimed in was I basically " freek out " when I see something being

recommended across the board. We are all different and what works for one may

be very wrong for someone else especially something that is injested. Some

thngs may actually cause harm. I have personal experiece with vinegar and know

it does cause me harm.

I liked this advice someone posted on another user group : " Take this simple

test promoted by the late Dr. Coca. Prior to eating, take your pulse. Eat one

item and wait 10 minutes. Take your pulse again. If the pulse rate differs by

more than 10 pulses, either up or down, you are reacting to that particular food

item. Most of the time the pulse rate goes up but there are occasions when it

slows down. Either way, that food item is not in homeostasis. "

Re: Re: apple cider vinegar

But I thought that although ACV is acidic, it actually has an alkalising

effect? Knowledgeable people please jump in here! dee

On 13 Jan 2010, at 19:35, VJ wrote:

> WOAH! stop right there.

>

> I've been following Dr. D'Adamo's blood type diet for some 5 years and know

for a fact that vinegar is an avoid for my blood tye (Type A). I took the time

to look it up prior to writing this and can report that according to his

Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia Vinegar (Apple Cider) is listed as an avoid for

Type A's because it " Provokes abnormal blood reaction. " It is Neutral for Type B

and Type O (Secretors) For Type AB it is also and avoid because " Gastric

irritant; inhibits proper digestive function. "

>

> Now something else that needs to be explored when it comes to vinegar is to

remember it's ph value being acidic. I've been told that cancer loves an acidic

environment and can not live in an alkaline one.

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dorothy, that is my understanding as well, also Dr. has tested it and

it does contain a certain amount of mold! But not sure if it's enough to upset

the system and vitamin C inhibits the growth. I have heard of blood types but

not sure I believe the research??? There may be underlying reasons for reactions

to foods, like parasites:) Blessings, Kat

>

> > WOAH! stop right there.

> >

> > I've been following Dr. D'Adamo's blood type diet for some 5 years and know

for a fact that vinegar is an avoid for my blood tye (Type A). I took the time

to look it up prior to writing this and can report that according to his

Complete Blood Type Encyclopedia Vinegar (Apple Cider) is listed as an avoid for

Type A's because it " Provokes abnormal blood reaction. " It is Neutral for Type

B and Type O (Secretors) For Type AB it is also and avoid because " Gastric

irritant; inhibits proper digestive function. "

> >

> > Now something else that needs to be explored when it comes to vinegar is to

remember it's ph value being acidic. I've been told that cancer loves an acidic

environment and can not live in an alkaline one.

> >

>