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anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after

longterm mold exposure? the two could have no connection at all but

i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at work and just cry

all the time all i can think is that it would be easier to not be

here i have no energy to do anything i dont get anything done at

work or at home for that matter. i feel completely drained all the

time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want

to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i

cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely useless. I have

tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. My main problem

is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. I cant work

much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. please let me

know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me.

meekermissy

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Missy,

Don't dispair, that is a common symptom of Toxic Mold.

It is also a symptom of C.O exposure. Be sure you

don't have any gas leaks too. The mold really does

make you feel like you are caring lots of extra weight

all the time. I beleive that is due to penetration and

muscle fatigue. You need to get busy with us and join

the National Toxic Mold Coalition and be our rep in

Okla.

--- meekermissy <reddnkgrl@...> wrote:

> anyone else have problems with depression and

> suicidal thoughts after

> longterm mold exposure? the two could have no

> connection at all but

> i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at

> work and just cry

> all the time all i can think is that it would be

> easier to not be

> here i have no energy to do anything i dont get

> anything done at

> work or at home for that matter. i feel completely

> drained all the

> time and my family and coworkers just think i am

> lazy and dont want

> to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late

> everyday cause i

> cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely

> useless. I have

> tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky.

> My main problem

> is that i still live in the contaminated apartment.

> I cant work

> much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move

> to. please let me

> know if anyone has had similar problems or if its

> just me.

>

> meekermissy

>

>

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My daughters room mate had a similar problem. She was in the apartment only 8 weeks when she gave up the want to live. She decided to cut her wrist. There were a few other problems also- Boyfriend problems & $$ problems. But the fact is that a once positive young girl gave up the want to live after living in this highly contaminated place for only a few months. She now has the help that she needs. Amazingly enough- after she was out a week or so- She had her positive personality back. I only wish that my daughters health would return as fast. CarrollBower wrote:

Missy,Don't dispair, that is a common symptom of Toxic Mold.It is also a symptom of C.O exposure. Be sure youdon't have any gas leaks too. The mold really doesmake you feel like you are caring lots of extra weightall the time. I beleive that is due to penetration andmuscle fatigue. You need to get busy with us and jointhe National Toxic Mold Coalition and be our rep inOkla.--- meekermissy <reddnkgrl@...> wrote:> anyone else have problems with depression and> suicidal thoughts after > longterm mold exposure? the two could have no> connection at all but > i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at> work and just cry > all the time all i can think is that it would be> easier to not be > here i have no energy to do anything i dont get> anything done at > work or at home for that matter. i feel completely> drained all the > time and my family and coworkers just think i am> lazy and dont want > to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late> everyday cause i > cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely> useless. I have > tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. > My main problem > is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. > I cant work > much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move> to. please let me > know if anyone has had similar problems or if its> just me.> > meekermissy> > __________________________________________________

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Look at my web site for information germane to your problem. Today, I am about 95% recovered from my exposure. I think I’ll wind up with a diminution in my lung capacity of 10- 15%. If, I had realized sooner what the web site explains, I know the speed of my recovery would have been more rapid and the degree more complete.

www.stachy.5u.com

ph P. Klein, Sr., M.D.

CarrollBower wrote:

Missy,Don't dispair, that is a common symptom of Toxic Mold.It is also a symptom of C.O exposure. Be sure youdon't have any gas leaks too. The mold really doesmake you feel like you are caring lots of extra weightall the time. I beleive that is due to penetration andmuscle fatigue. You need to get busy with us and jointhe National Toxic Mold Coalition and be our rep inOkla.--- meekermissy <reddnkgrl@...> wrote:> anyone else have problems with depression and> suicidal thoughts after > longterm mold exposure? the two could have no> connection at all but > i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at> work and just cry > all the time all i can think is that it would be> easier to not be > here i have no energy to do anything i dont get> anything done at > work or at home for that matter. i feel completely> drained all the > time and my family and coworkers just think i am> lazy and dont want > to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late> everyday cause i > cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely> useless. I have > tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. > My main problem > is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. > I cant work > much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move> to. please let me > know if anyone has had similar problems or if its> just me.> > meekermissy> > __________________________________________________

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Dear Missy:

You are not crazy. I was exposed to massive amounts of toxic substances

while working in the Department of Transportation's Nassif building, located

in Washington, DC. There are probably many things wrong with me now, but

the main effect the building had on me was Major Depressive Disorder

(Recurrent - Moderate to Severe) without psychotic features. This is about

as bad as depression can get.

I have had several doctors and psychiatrists diagnose me with this disease.

It was about one year ago that I became aware that the Nassif building could

have been the problem. I have researched this building, my symptoms while

in the building and am firmly convinced that the building caused the

problem. This happened to me between 1993 and mid 1995. I have had a major

fight on my hands to save my sanity. I refuse, however, to let them win!

Don't let this get you down. Fight it with all your might. This group

represent the harbingers of a plague that is almost certain to infest the

entire World, if very positive things are not forthcoming. Join us at the

group. You and others that have experienced this infestation are the

witnesses to a problem that is affecting many, including our children. Lets

come together as an activist group, and convince the world of what WE KNOW,

not just what someone might suspect. We are the proof. They will only be

able to provide lip service to this problem for so long. If we continue to

fight back, we will be doing the World a great service.

Hang in there Missy, the group and more importantly, the World, needs you.

We have a major battle to wage, and need people like us. We are going to

prove this before long. If you or any of the others in the group would

like, I will send you my research of my toxic disease, and the buildings

massive contaminations. Depression is very much an affect of toxic mold

contamination.

Do everything you have to in order to stop the exposure. If you are still

around the mold, GET AWAY FROM IT! Seek the help of professionals in order

to manage the depression. I have seen 10 or 12 doctors and psychiatrists

over the past seven years, and have continually improved. I will never be

the same as I was, but look forward to the improvements I have experienced.

Toxic Mold contamination manifests itself in many ways. Some of us are more

susceptible to this contamination than others. That does not make us

weaker, it merely shows that some things affect us differently because of

our matabolisms. We have become the harbingers of what is to come.

Our opponents will tell us that this only affects a few susceptible

individuals. That might be true, and probably is, however, these supposed

unsusceptibe individuals still have the long-term exposure effects coming

sometime in the furure.

As a lay person, I can only tell you to GET AWAY from the exposure, if you

have not already. Seek help to manage your depression, and help us bring

this major plague problem to the World. You, I, and all the rest of this

group represents a major tool in the fight for life. Both, for us, our

children, and many others that have yet to be exposed.

Praying for your Relief,

Larry N. McQuarie, Sr.

Parsons, Kansas 67357

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anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after

longterm mold exposure? the two could have no connection at all but

i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at work and just cry

all the time all i can think is that it would be easier to not be

here i have no energy to do anything i dont get anything done at

work or at home for that matter. i feel completely drained all the

time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want

to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i

cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely useless. I have

tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. My main problem

is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. I cant work

much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. please let me

know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me.

meekermissy

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Dear Missy,

No you are NOT crazy. I was severely exposed to toxic molds at work including stachybotrus. I wear a 3m mask all the time and now have severe asthma. They knew about this at work through an enviremental report and did nothing. The report was a year ago. Now they dont know what to say. My eras burn,plants give me instant "pnemoniia, depression, I am on anti anxiety pills. YOU ARE NOT CRAZY! A doctor tried to tell me that at the clinic at the shipyard I work at and I wouldnt stand for it. Now I am talking to a lawyer. WE WILL FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Janet s

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Dear Larry,

What a great guy, thanks so much for speaking out to

Missy, we are all in this boat together and the only

way to keep it afloat is to keep paddling, (the lines

of communication open.) I have all the caring in the

world for those who are hurt from this, and am working

on the funds to help with the caring. Awareness is the

answer, for so many know and so many don't know what

we have been through. It is a biological warfare of

sorts. For those who wish to undermine the effects of

mycotoxins on the body, I have hundreds of letters to

present this month to Congress, as well as hundreds of

same symptom correlations. The old saying seems to be,

" Better you than me " but if my predictions are right,

which they usually are, I forsee Toxic Mold racking

havoc with the very ones denying it. Then they will

join us. So hold on tight...it promises to be a roller

coaster ride of your life and the National Toxic Mold

will be at the Helm. Congress has been calling!

--- Larry McQuarie <triggerpom@...> wrote:

> Dear Missy:

>

> You are not crazy. I was exposed to massive amounts

> of toxic substances

> while working in the Department of Transportation's

> Nassif building, located

> in Washington, DC. There are probably many things

> wrong with me now, but

> the main effect the building had on me was Major

> Depressive Disorder

> (Recurrent - Moderate to Severe) without psychotic

> features. This is about

> as bad as depression can get.

>

> I have had several doctors and psychiatrists

> diagnose me with this disease.

> It was about one year ago that I became aware that

> the Nassif building could

> have been the problem. I have researched this

> building, my symptoms while

> in the building and am firmly convinced that the

> building caused the

> problem. This happened to me between 1993 and mid

> 1995. I have had a major

> fight on my hands to save my sanity. I refuse,

> however, to let them win!

>

> Don't let this get you down. Fight it with all your

> might. This group

> represent the harbingers of a plague that is almost

> certain to infest the

> entire World, if very positive things are not

> forthcoming. Join us at the

> group. You and others that have experienced this

> infestation are the

> witnesses to a problem that is affecting many,

> including our children. Lets

> come together as an activist group, and convince the

> world of what WE KNOW,

> not just what someone might suspect. We are the

> proof. They will only be

> able to provide lip service to this problem for so

> long. If we continue to

> fight back, we will be doing the World a great

> service.

>

> Hang in there Missy, the group and more importantly,

> the World, needs you.

> We have a major battle to wage, and need people like

> us. We are going to

> prove this before long. If you or any of the others

> in the group would

> like, I will send you my research of my toxic

> disease, and the buildings

> massive contaminations. Depression is very much an

> affect of toxic mold

> contamination.

>

> Do everything you have to in order to stop the

> exposure. If you are still

> around the mold, GET AWAY FROM IT! Seek the help of

> professionals in order

> to manage the depression. I have seen 10 or 12

> doctors and psychiatrists

> over the past seven years, and have continually

> improved. I will never be

> the same as I was, but look forward to the

> improvements I have experienced.

>

> Toxic Mold contamination manifests itself in many

> ways. Some of us are more

> susceptible to this contamination than others. That

> does not make us

> weaker, it merely shows that some things affect us

> differently because of

> our matabolisms. We have become the harbingers of

> what is to come.

>

> Our opponents will tell us that this only affects a

> few susceptible

> individuals. That might be true, and probably is,

> however, these supposed

> unsusceptibe individuals still have the long-term

> exposure effects coming

> sometime in the furure.

>

> As a lay person, I can only tell you to GET AWAY

> from the exposure, if you

> have not already. Seek help to manage your

> depression, and help us bring

> this major plague problem to the World. You, I, and

> all the rest of this

> group represents a major tool in the fight for life.

> Both, for us, our

> children, and many others that have yet to be

> exposed.

>

> Praying for your Relief,

> Larry N. McQuarie, Sr.

> Parsons, Kansas 67357

>

>

>

>

>

>

> >From: " meekermissy " <reddnkgrl@...>

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> >

> >Subject: [] am i crazy???

> >Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:30:45 -0000

> >

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>

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> > anyone else have problems with depression and

> > suicidal thoughts after

> > longterm mold exposure? the two could have no

> > connection at all but

> > i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at

> > work and just cry

> > all the time all i can think is that it would be

> > easier to not be

> > here i have no energy to do anything i dont get

> > anything done at

> > work or at home for that matter. i feel completely

> > drained all the

> > time and my family and coworkers just think i am

> > lazy and dont want

> > to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late

> > everyday cause i

> > cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely

> > useless. I have

> > tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky.

> > My main problem

> > is that i still live in the contaminated apartment.

> > I cant work

> > much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move

> > to. please let me

> > know if anyone has had similar problems or if its

> > just me.

> >

> > meekermissy

> >

> >

>

>

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Look at my web site for information germane to your problem. Today, I am about 95% recovered from my exposure. I think I’ll wind up with a diminution in my lung capacity of 10- 15%. If, I had realized sooner what the web site explains, I know the speed of my recovery would have been more rapid and the degree more complete.

www.stachy.5u.com

ph P. Klein, Sr., M.D.

meekermissy wrote:

anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after longterm mold exposure? the two could have no connection at all but i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at work and just cry all the time all i can think is that it would be easier to not be here i have no energy to do anything i dont get anything done at work or at home for that matter. i feel completely drained all the time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely useless. I have tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. My main problem is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. I cant work much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. please let me know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me.meekermissyFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

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Joe, I see that exact same verbage come out of you about every 6 weeks as if by cut and paste. Fortunately, Dr Gray, Dr. Kent in England, Dr. Christian Leianl in France, have been working with me for several months and been able to dispel several of the very old myths behind the stachybotrys ideaology and remediation, IAQ, (clothes washing theory) and several new topics that have been financially researched and discovered. Additionally, they have shed some light on some old ideas about treatment; fact and fiction that I would be happy to disseminate in my papers.

I look forward to sharing those ideas in the near future. Many with new ideas, new treatments ideas, and new wording as well.

www.mold-help.org

www.mold-survivor.com

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Subject: Re: [] am i crazy???

Look at my web site for information germane to your problem. Today, I am about 95% recovered from my exposure. I think I’ll wind up with a diminution in my lung capacity of 10- 15%. If, I had realized sooner what the web site explains, I know the speed of my recovery would have been more rapid and the degree more complete.

www.stachy.5u.com

ph P. Klein, Sr., M.D. meekermissy wrote: anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after longterm mold exposure? the two could have no connection at all but i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at work and just cry all the time all i can think is that it would be easier to not be here i have no energy to do anything i dont get anything done at work or at home for that matter. i feel completely drained all the time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely useless. I have tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. My main problem is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. I cant work much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. please let me know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me.meekermissyFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner.

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Of course you know we want you to come talk at the

convention. Let me know.

Carroll-Bower,President,NTMC

--- MOLD HELP <toxic@...> wrote:

> Joe, I see that exact same verbage come out of you

> about every 6 weeks as if by cut and paste.

> Fortunately, Dr Gray, Dr. Kent in

> England, Dr. Christian Leianl in France, have been

> working with me for several months and been able to

> dispel several of the very old myths behind the

> stachybotrys ideaology and remediation, IAQ,

> (clothes washing theory) and several new topics that

> have been financially researched and discovered.

> Additionally, they have shed some light on some old

> ideas about treatment; fact and fiction that I would

> be happy to disseminate in my papers.

>

> I look forward to sharing those ideas in the near

> future. Many with new ideas, new treatments ideas,

> and new wording as well.

>

>

> www.mold-help.org

> www.mold-survivor.com

> ----- Original Message -----

> From: Joe Klein

>

> Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 8:53 PM

> Subject: Re: [] am i crazy???

>

>

> Look at my web site for information germane to

> your problem. Today, I am about 95% recovered

> from my exposure. I think I'll wind up with a

> diminution in my lung capacity of 10- 15%. If, I

> had realized sooner what the web site explains, I

> know the speed of my recovery would have been more

> rapid and the degree more complete.

>

>

>

> www.stachy.5u.com

>

>

>

> ph P. Klein, Sr., M.D.

>

> meekermissy wrote:

>

> anyone else have problems with depression and

> suicidal thoughts after

> longterm mold exposure? the two could have no

> connection at all but

> i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit

> at work and just cry

> all the time all i can think is that it would

> be easier to not be

> here i have no energy to do anything i dont

> get anything done at

> work or at home for that matter. i feel

> completely drained all the

> time and my family and coworkers just think i am

> lazy and dont want

> to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours

> late everyday cause i

> cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely

> useless. I have

> tried taking energy pills, they just make me

> shaky. My main problem

> is that i still live in the contaminated

> apartment. I cant work

> much, so i am low on funds, have no where to

> move to. please let me

> know if anyone has had similar problems or if

> its just me.

>

> meekermissy

>

>

>

> FAIR USE NOTICE:

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Its not just you. You just described me exactly. Get out of the contaminated

home. I left two weeks after finding the mold and almost a year later am

still recovering. I hate to think how bad I would be if I were still there.

My immune system two months after leaving the contaminated apartment was

not functioning. It is now but my doctor says the recovery time will take 6

mos to two years. It is very depressing to feel so weak all the time and

even more so because no one understands what you are going through. Just

know that you are not alone.

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>

>Subject: [] am i crazy???

>Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:30:45 -0000

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>anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after

>longterm mold exposure? the two could have no connection at all but

>i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at work and just cry

>all the time all i can think is that it would be easier to not be

>here i have no energy to do anything i dont get anything done at

>work or at home for that matter. i feel completely drained all the

>time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want

>to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i

>cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely useless. I have

>tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. My main problem

>is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. I cant work

>much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. please let me

>know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me.

>

>meekermissy

>

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Dear Missy,

I can't speak for others, but over the years I've talked with numerous

people who have experienced this side effect from mycotoxin exposure. I

spent 2 long years taking Prozac (like an idiot) for depression and it did

nothing to help. I gave suicide a passing thought more than once - not so

much from the depression but from the increasing level of pain that

prevented me from sleeping or moving - but I have a husband and children (5

sons) and knowing them, they would take it personally. When I really

thought about it, I didn't want to die and have to live this all over again,

I just wanted to know how to cure myself.

Last year, two of my sons moved into a contaminated apartment in Tampa.

Within a week, the younger one was calling me crying and hysterical -

telling me he felt like he was losing his mind. They moved out and within a

week he was feeling better. Whenever anyone tells me they have started

experiencing bizarre thoughts and depression, the first thing I tell them is

to look for mold.

As long as you continue to expose yourself to this stuff, the worse you will

get. If there is anyway possible to get out of the moldy environment, you

need to make every effort to do it. Perhaps if you printed some of the

articles here in our forum, it might help your co-workers become more

understanding of what you are going through.

Best wishes,

Barbara

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Dear Missy,

Hi. I've been reading messages on this board for a while but joined

today to write to you.

You are not going crazy. You are not losing your mind. And the

depression that you are experiencing has to do with mold's attack on

your central nervous system. Please please don't give up.

You will get better.

And when you do get better there will be days that are hard.

Before I left my toxic home I had no idea what was happening to me.

I honestly thought I was dying, or losing my mind. I was so scared,

and so lonely. Slowly I dropped out of everything: school,

friendships, relationships, work, volunteer work. I couldn't

exercise and I was either not hungry or voraciously hungry.

I have been out of the house for less than six months and my life is

changing dramatically. I left every stitch of clothing and all my

possessions. I thought that I had no where to go and was really

surprised that a friend at work had an extra room. I mean, I never

would have dreamed of asking her and I thought I was going to be

without a home!

Still I have memory troubles. Gosh, I just got a telephone call from

someone I do not remember calling for months -- aparently I left a

message two days ago! It's o.k. It is REALLY hard. Perhaps the

hardest part is explaining over and over about toxic mold and seeing

peoples' eyes glaze over. Right now people think it's something

madeup but it isn't. Just say, " Are you familiar with toxic mold?

Oh, you can read about it on the web. " And leave it at that. It's

not our job to explain something so complex and emotionally difficult

to even think about.

I'm not working anymore and I actually count my change now. You know

what, though? I love this new chubby, memory-challenged ME a lot

better than I loved who I was before, when things seemed so " easy. "

Little tiny achievements (I read the paper today) mean so much. I'm

not trying to preach at all. Just sharing a little news from my

world of traveling out the mold.

Write me if you'd like to; any time: septembersea4me@...

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Thank you for you e-mail. I did look at your web sites. My web site documents primairly what worked for me I continue to be well as long as I follow the principals outlined. I'll give you a call this weekend, if your number hasen't changed.

Joe

MOLD HELP wrote:

Joe, I see that exact same verbage come out of you about every 6 weeks as if by cut and paste. Fortunately, Dr Gray, Dr. Kent in England, Dr. Christian Leianl in France, have been working with me for several months and been able to dispel several of the very old myths behind the stachybotrys ideaology and remediation, IAQ, (clothes washing theory) and several new topics that have been financially researched and discovered. Additionally, they have shed some light on some old ideas about treatment; fact and fiction that I would be happy to disseminate in my papers.

I look forward to sharing those ideas in the near future. Many with new ideas, new treatments ideas, and new wording as well.

www.mold-help.org

www.mold-survivor.com

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From: Joe Klein

Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 8:53 PM

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Look at my web site for information germane to your problem. Today, I am about 95% recovered from my exposure. I think I’ll wind up with a diminution in my lung capacity of 10- 15%. If, I had realized sooner what the web site explains, I know the speed of my recovery would have been more rapid and the degree more complete.

www.stachy.5u.com

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This website has beem my savior aand a way for info and to prove I am not alone. I send hugs to everyone living with this nightmare. I am very sick. A very nice lady sent this website to the reporter for me who did a newspaper article on me. Keep up the good work and NONE of us are alone this way...Janet

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My sincere thanks to all of you...I just discovered your group and

suddenly feel less alone! I live in France where awareness of this

problem is apparently even less than in the USA. Since moving into my

house 2 years ago, my thyroid has stopped functionning normally and

I've had to start taking anti-depressant medication on top of that.

I'm convinced that the dry rot I've just discovered is at least

part of the cause but the doctors I've seen just sort of smile as if

I'm crazy.

I'll be checking in here regularly now to help preserve my sanity as I

pursue my options over here and hopefully find a way to move out!

again, thank you.

> > Dear Missy:

> >

> > You are not crazy. I was exposed to massive amounts

> > of toxic substances

> > while working in the Department of Transportation's

> > Nassif building, located

> > in Washington, DC. There are probably many things

> > wrong with me now, but

> > the main effect the building had on me was Major

> > Depressive Disorder

> > (Recurrent - Moderate to Severe) without psychotic

> > features. This is about

> > as bad as depression can get.

> >

> > I have had several doctors and psychiatrists

> > diagnose me with this disease.

> > It was about one year ago that I became aware that

> > the Nassif building could

> > have been the problem. I have researched this

> > building, my symptoms while

> > in the building and am firmly convinced that the

> > building caused the

> > problem. This happened to me between 1993 and mid

> > 1995. I have had a major

> > fight on my hands to save my sanity. I refuse,

> > however, to let them win!

> >

> > Don't let this get you down. Fight it with all your

> > might. This group

> > represent the harbingers of a plague that is almost

> > certain to infest the

> > entire World, if very positive things are not

> > forthcoming. Join us at the

> > group. You and others that have experienced this

> > infestation are the

> > witnesses to a problem that is affecting many,

> > including our children. Lets

> > come together as an activist group, and convince the

> > world of what WE KNOW,

> > not just what someone might suspect. We are the

> > proof. They will only be

> > able to provide lip service to this problem for so

> > long. If we continue to

> > fight back, we will be doing the World a great

> > service.

> >

> > Hang in there Missy, the group and more importantly,

> > the World, needs you.

> > We have a major battle to wage, and need people like

> > us. We are going to

> > prove this before long. If you or any of the others

> > in the group would

> > like, I will send you my research of my toxic

> > disease, and the buildings

> > massive contaminations. Depression is very much an

> > affect of toxic mold

> > contamination.

> >

> > Do everything you have to in order to stop the

> > exposure. If you are still

> > around the mold, GET AWAY FROM IT! Seek the help of

> > professionals in order

> > to manage the depression. I have seen 10 or 12

> > doctors and psychiatrists

> > over the past seven years, and have continually

> > improved. I will never be

> > the same as I was, but look forward to the

> > improvements I have experienced.

> >

> > Toxic Mold contamination manifests itself in many

> > ways. Some of us are more

> > susceptible to this contamination than others. That

> > does not make us

> > weaker, it merely shows that some things affect us

> > differently because of

> > our matabolisms. We have become the harbingers of

> > what is to come.

> >

> > Our opponents will tell us that this only affects a

> > few susceptible

> > individuals. That might be true, and probably is,

> > however, these supposed

> > unsusceptibe individuals still have the long-term

> > exposure effects coming

> > sometime in the furure.

> >

> > As a lay person, I can only tell you to GET AWAY

> > from the exposure, if you

> > have not already. Seek help to manage your

> > depression, and help us bring

> > this major plague problem to the World. You, I, and

> > all the rest of this

> > group represents a major tool in the fight for life.

> > Both, for us, our

> > children, and many others that have yet to be

> > exposed.

> >

> > Praying for your Relief,

> > Larry N. McQuarie, Sr.

> > Parsons, Kansas 67357

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >From: " meekermissy " <reddnkgrl@h...>

> > >Reply-@y...

> > >@y...

> > >Subject: [] am i crazy???

> > >Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:30:45 -0000

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> >

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Rabecca, you are AMAZING!!!!!!

No, it's not wrong! If you have the energy and all is well in your household and your spouse agrees, why not? You're an expert by now! LOL!!!

Maralee

>^..^<

Am I crazy???

Hi there…

Yep… Its me again… and I am going through empty nest (without the nest being quite empty)… My oldest are out on their own… My 14-year-old (AS) is doing GREAT and we celebrate his life… My 6-year-old is now in school FT and is doing really well (though we haven’t quite figured out where her mind goes part of the time or why she is able to do lots of things at one time and fewer things when her mind is “gone”) None of them need us the way they used to… We can stand back and cheer… We can support them through attending their activities and volunteering… But they are now on “autopilot” They don’t NEED us as intensively as they used to… We are actually considering adopting another special needs kiddo… Yep… All of mine have had challenges (and only one is biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome and thrive… and that is a good thing, but then I need to find somewhere else to put all of this energy!!! (Yes, I DO want them to get better and worry incessantly when they aren’t improving, but you know how it is…) Am I crazy??? I have dealt with bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA, AS, OC, OD, seizure disorders, diabetic, brain damaged, abused kids and we seem to be able to regulate meds and environment until things are “good”… Dare I say the word “normal”?

Any advice? I have enough pets… I love my kids and wouldn’t replace one for the world… Is it wrong to think about getting another???

Rabecca

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Hi ,

I know how you feel, and am hoping you aren't crazy because if you are then I am too! You sound like you just need a lot of challenge in your life. I have been like that too and tend to get really bored if I am not struggling with some sort of problem head on with all my energy. Is why I take care of my three grandchildren while my daughter works I guess. There is so much to do with them every day.

You know, you might try to find something else to vent your high level of energy on, rather than adopting another child. I have just found that as life goes by I am getting older, and I really do need more time to devote to my own needs as a person. Not that I do much for myself, but I do think I need to, if I could figure out how to do it. haha

When I went to the university I majored in leisure studies, and one class I took was rally interesting, the social psychology of leisure or something like that, and I learned that we all have different arousal levels. Like say, some folks might not have any fun at all unless they were sky diving or mountain climbing, while others would be quite content at sewing or gardening. Evidentially we each have different levels that must be challenged within ourselves, and we are all different from one another.

Perhaps you need leisure counseling, that is what some of the students went into. I found it really fascinating. They would sit some unhappy depressed bussiness man down and try to figure out why he was so miserable. He had made it in life at his career, had enough money, etc., but had no zest left for life. Well come to find out it was because he needed new challenges, so they would custom design things for him until they hit on something the guy loved, and then he began to flourish again.

Gosh I am making myself think here too. I was wanting to take a swimming workout class, been taking the kids swimming lately, and tried to swim myself and didn't get far. But the fact is I used to be on the swimming team when I was young, and it did feel kind of good the little ways I went. They did say in class that what we love may very well be something we loved as a child.

Hmmmmmmmmmm. Nope you are not crazy, just bored probably.

Lots of love to you, tell us how it works out!

Carolyn

Am I crazy???

Hi there…

Yep… Its me again… and I am going through empty nest (without the nest being quite empty)… My oldest are out on their own… My 14-year-old (AS) is doing GREAT and we celebrate his life… My 6-year-old is now in school FT and is doing really well (though we haven’t quite figured out where her mind goes part of the time or why she is able to do lots of things at one time and fewer things when her mind is “gone”) None of them need us the way they used to… We can stand back and cheer… We can support them through attending their activities and volunteering… But they are now on “autopilot” They don’t NEED us as intensively as they used to… We are actually considering adopting another special needs kiddo… Yep… All of mine have had challenges (and only one is biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome and thrive… and that is a good thing, but then I need to find somewhere else to put all of this energy!!! (Yes, I DO want them to get better and worry incessantly when they aren’t improving, but you know how it is…) Am I crazy??? I have dealt with bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA, AS, OC, OD, seizure disorders, diabetic, brain damaged, abused kids and we seem to be able to regulate meds and environment until things are “good”… Dare I say the word “normal”?

Any advice? I have enough pets… I love my kids and wouldn’t replace one for the world… Is it wrong to think about getting another???

Rabecca

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Wow! You must be really good at this

because I’m struggling with just 1 child! What a gift you have, as long

as you are both agreed, why would it be wrong!?!

From: Rabecca Whalen

[mailto:rabeccawhalen@...]

Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005

4:20 PM

Autism-Aspergers

Subject: Am I

crazy???

Hi there…

Yep… Its me again… and I

am going through empty nest (without the nest being quite empty)… My

oldest are out on their own… My 14-year-old (AS) is doing GREAT and we

celebrate his life… My 6-year-old is now in school FT and is doing really

well (though we haven’t quite figured out where her mind goes part of the

time or why she is able to do lots of things at one time and fewer things when

her mind is “gone”) None of them need us the way they used

to… We can stand back and cheer… We can support them through

attending their activities and volunteering… But they are now on

“autopilot” They don’t NEED us as intensively as they used

to… We are actually considering adopting another special needs

kiddo… Yep… All of mine have had challenges (and only one is

biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome and thrive… and that is a

good thing, but then I need to find somewhere else to put all of this energy!!!

(Yes, I DO want them to get better and worry incessantly when they aren’t

improving, but you know how it is…) Am I crazy??? I have dealt with

bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA,

AS, OC, OD, seizure disorders,

diabetic, brain damaged, abused kids and we seem to be able to regulate meds

and environment until things are “good”… Dare I say the word

“normal”?

Any advice? I have enough pets…

I love my kids and wouldn’t replace one for the world… Is it wrong

to think about getting another???

Rabecca

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My wife and I do foster parenting for infants at risk.

This fills the nest

--- Rabecca Whalen <rabeccawhalen@...> wrote:

> Hi there…

>

> Yep… Its me again… and I am going through empty nest

> (without the nest being

> quite empty)… My oldest are out on their own… My

> 14-year-old (AS) is doing

> GREAT and we celebrate his life… My 6-year-old is

> now in school FT and is

> doing really well (though we haven’t quite figured

> out where her mind goes

> part of the time or why she is able to do lots of

> things at one time and

> fewer things when her mind is “gone”) None of them

> need us the way they used

> to… We can stand back and cheer… We can support them

> through attending their

> activities and volunteering… But they are now on

> “autopilot” They don’t NEED

> us as intensively as they used to… We are actually

> considering adopting

> another special needs kiddo… Yep… All of mine have

> had challenges (and only

> one is biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome

> and thrive… and that is a

> good thing, but then I need to find somewhere else

> to put all of this

> energy!!! (Yes, I DO want them to get better and

> worry incessantly when they

> aren’t improving, but you know how it is…) Am I

> crazy??? I have dealt with

> bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA, AS, OC, OD, seizure

> disorders, diabetic,

> brain damaged, abused kids and we seem to be able to

> regulate meds and

> environment until things are “good”… Dare I say the

> word “normal”?

>

> Any advice? I have enough pets… I love my kids and

> wouldn’t replace one for

> the world… Is it wrong to think about getting

> another???

>

> Rabecca

>

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Throughout each weekday, I have a total of 10 kids that come and go

at various times. Many are high risk, some have been foster (or are

the children of adults raised through the system), have special needs

that need to be addressed, or are " exceptional " and need support and

input that keeps up with their pace. Two of these are infants. One is

low functioning but definitely on the spectrum. I have one with

dyslexia, one with seizures, and most are either experiencing major

transitions in their home lives or have survived one fairly recently.

Like foster kids, they all eventually move on… I guess I have come to

like and appreciate the permanency of some of my kiddos. I can put a

lot of work into them and never see it bare fruit, and that is okay

but I really like to watch the continuing transformation… Also, I

wouldn't be looking at infants… The reason I now have day babies

instead of foster babies is that mine go home at night and I still

get to sleep!!! I did foster for a number of years. It was wonderful,

but boy it rips your heart out when they are ready to move on…Perhaps

we will get in to foster again, but then it will be with older

children, who can learn our number (as the older ones tend to keep in

touch and call if things get bad again).

Hmmmm… Thanks for making me think though. That is what I need to

really get a handle on what we should do!!!

~hugs~

Rabecca

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But there is always the risk of taking on more than we can handle or

getting a child in that plays havoc on our other kids... They all

have needs, so how do we make sure that we get another that we can

support without compromising the environment we have created for the

others? I guess I am a bit nervous about taking another, but the idea

is exciting enough to where I can't seem to dismiss it (and my

husband is all for it!)

~hugs~

Rabecca

> Wow! You must be really good at this because I'm struggling with

just 1

> child! What a gift you have, as long as you are both agreed, why

would it

> be wrong!?!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: Rabecca Whalen [mailto:rabeccawhalen@v...]

> Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:20 PM

> Autism-Aspergers

> Subject: Am I crazy???

>

>

>

> Hi there.

>

>

>

> Yep. Its me again. and I am going through empty nest (without the

nest being

> quite empty). My oldest are out on their own. My 14-year-old (AS)

is doing

> GREAT and we celebrate his life. My 6-year-old is now in school FT

and is

> doing really well (though we haven't quite figured out where her

mind goes

> part of the time or why she is able to do lots of things at one

time and

> fewer things when her mind is " gone " ) None of them need us the way

they used

> to. We can stand back and cheer. We can support them through

attending their

> activities and volunteering. But they are now on " autopilot " They

don't NEED

> us as intensively as they used to. We are actually considering

adopting

> another special needs kiddo. Yep. All of mine have had challenges

(and only

> one is biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome and thrive. and

that is a

> good thing, but then I need to find somewhere else to put all of

this

> energy!!! (Yes, I DO want them to get better and worry incessantly

when they

> aren't improving, but you know how it is.) Am I crazy??? I have

dealt with

> bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA, AS, OC, OD, seizure disorders,

diabetic,

> brain damaged, abused kids and we seem to be able to regulate meds

and

> environment until things are " good " . Dare I say the word " normal " ?

>

>

>

> Any advice? I have enough pets. I love my kids and wouldn't replace

one for

> the world. Is it wrong to think about getting another???

>

>

>

> Rabecca

>

>

>

> _____

>

>

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Carolyn,

That definately could be it, because it seems like whenever things

slow down around here, I have to find something else... I don't sit

still well and definately can't stay awake through a whole movie, so

it is either keep the brain active or I go to sleep. On top of

raising kids and working with kids 60 hours a week, I also run a

Brownie troop and help with the church youth group once a week. I

guess I need the stimulation that naturally comes when you are

helping others!!!

~hugs~

Rabecca

PS... I finished my 4-year business degree one year ago, 4.0 GPA,

Valedictorian, all just to find out that I wouldn't be happy working

anywhere but with kids... Go figure!!! ~winks~

> Hi ,

>

> I know how you feel, and am hoping you aren't crazy

> because if you are then I am too! You sound like you just

> need a lot of challenge in your life. I have been like that

> too and tend to get really bored if I am not struggling with

> some sort of problem head on with all my energy. Is why I

> take care of my three grandchildren while my daughter works

> I guess. There is so much to do with them every day.

>

> You know, you might try to find something else to vent

> your high level of energy on, rather than adopting another

> child. I have just found that as life goes by I am getting

> older, and I really do need more time to devote to my own

> needs as a person. Not that I do much for myself, but I do

> think I need to, if I could figure out how to do it. haha

>

> When I went to the university I majored in leisure

> studies, and one class I took was rally interesting, the

> social psychology of leisure or something like that, and I

> learned that we all have different arousal levels. Like say,

> some folks might not have any fun at all unless they were

> sky diving or mountain climbing, while others would be quite

> content at sewing or gardening. Evidentially we each have

> different levels that must be challenged within ourselves,

> and we are all different from one another.

>

> Perhaps you need leisure counseling, that is what some

> of the students went into. I found it really fascinating.

> They would sit some unhappy depressed bussiness man down and

> try to figure out why he was so miserable. He had made it in

> life at his career, had enough money, etc., but had no zest

> left for life. Well come to find out it was because he

> needed new challenges, so they would custom design things

> for him until they hit on something the guy loved, and then

> he began to flourish again.

>

> Gosh I am making myself think here too. I was wanting to

> take a swimming workout class, been taking the kids swimming

> lately, and tried to swim myself and didn't get far. But the

> fact is I used to be on the swimming team when I was young,

> and it did feel kind of good the little ways I went. They

> did say in class that what we love may very well be

> something we loved as a child.

>

> Hmmmmmmmmmm. Nope you are not crazy, just bored

> probably.

>

> Lots of love to you, tell us how it works out!

> Carolyn

> Am I crazy???

>

>

> Hi there.

>

>

>

> Yep. Its me again. and I am going through empty nest

> (without the nest being quite empty). My oldest are out on

> their own. My 14-year-old (AS) is doing GREAT and we

> celebrate his life. My 6-year-old is now in school FT and is

> doing really well (though we haven't quite figured out where

> her mind goes part of the time or why she is able to do lots

> of things at one time and fewer things when her mind is

> " gone " ) None of them need us the way they used to. We can

> stand back and cheer. We can support them through attending

> their activities and volunteering. But they are now on

> " autopilot " They don't NEED us as intensively as they used

> to. We are actually considering adopting another special

> needs kiddo. Yep. All of mine have had challenges (and only

> one is biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome and

> thrive. and that is a good thing, but then I need to find

> somewhere else to put all of this energy!!! (Yes, I DO want

> them to get better and worry incessantly when they aren't

> improving, but you know how it is.) Am I crazy??? I have

> dealt with bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA, AS, OC, OD,

> seizure disorders, diabetic, brain damaged, abused kids and

> we seem to be able to regulate meds and environment until

> things are " good " . Dare I say the word " normal " ?

>

>

>

> Any advice? I have enough pets. I love my kids and wouldn't

> replace one for the world. Is it wrong to think about

> getting another???

>

>

>

> Rabecca

>

>

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Maralee,

~laughing and shaking my head~ You know what my Aspie son says

about " experts " ??? Ex means has been and a spurt is a drip under

pressure... so if I am an expert, that means I am a " has-been, drip,

under pressure!!! ~winks~

Thanks for your vote of confidence!!!

~hugs~

Rabecca

> Rabecca, you are AMAZING!!!!!!

> No, it's not wrong! If you have the energy and all is well in your

household

> and your spouse agrees, why not? You're an expert by now! LOL!!!

>

>

> Maralee

> >^..^<

>

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