Guest guest Posted August 20, 2002 Report Share Posted August 20, 2002 anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after longterm mold exposure? the two could have no connection at all but i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at work and just cry all the time all i can think is that it would be easier to not be here i have no energy to do anything i dont get anything done at work or at home for that matter. i feel completely drained all the time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely useless. I have tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. My main problem is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. I cant work much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. please let me know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me. meekermissy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Missy, Don't dispair, that is a common symptom of Toxic Mold. It is also a symptom of C.O exposure. Be sure you don't have any gas leaks too. The mold really does make you feel like you are caring lots of extra weight all the time. I beleive that is due to penetration and muscle fatigue. You need to get busy with us and join the National Toxic Mold Coalition and be our rep in Okla. --- meekermissy <reddnkgrl@...> wrote: > anyone else have problems with depression and > suicidal thoughts after > longterm mold exposure? the two could have no > connection at all but > i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at > work and just cry > all the time all i can think is that it would be > easier to not be > here i have no energy to do anything i dont get > anything done at > work or at home for that matter. i feel completely > drained all the > time and my family and coworkers just think i am > lazy and dont want > to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late > everyday cause i > cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely > useless. I have > tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. > My main problem > is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. > I cant work > much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move > to. please let me > know if anyone has had similar problems or if its > just me. > > meekermissy > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 My daughters room mate had a similar problem. She was in the apartment only 8 weeks when she gave up the want to live. She decided to cut her wrist. There were a few other problems also- Boyfriend problems & $$ problems. But the fact is that a once positive young girl gave up the want to live after living in this highly contaminated place for only a few months. She now has the help that she needs. Amazingly enough- after she was out a week or so- She had her positive personality back. I only wish that my daughters health would return as fast. CarrollBower wrote: Missy,Don't dispair, that is a common symptom of Toxic Mold.It is also a symptom of C.O exposure. Be sure youdon't have any gas leaks too. The mold really doesmake you feel like you are caring lots of extra weightall the time. I beleive that is due to penetration andmuscle fatigue. You need to get busy with us and jointhe National Toxic Mold Coalition and be our rep inOkla.--- meekermissy <reddnkgrl@...> wrote:> anyone else have problems with depression and> suicidal thoughts after > longterm mold exposure? the two could have no> connection at all but > i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at> work and just cry > all the time all i can think is that it would be> easier to not be > here i have no energy to do anything i dont get> anything done at > work or at home for that matter. i feel completely> drained all the > time and my family and coworkers just think i am> lazy and dont want > to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late> everyday cause i > cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely> useless. I have > tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. > My main problem > is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. > I cant work > much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move> to. please let me > know if anyone has had similar problems or if its> just me.> > meekermissy> > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Look at my web site for information germane to your problem. Today, I am about 95% recovered from my exposure. I think I’ll wind up with a diminution in my lung capacity of 10- 15%. If, I had realized sooner what the web site explains, I know the speed of my recovery would have been more rapid and the degree more complete. www.stachy.5u.com ph P. Klein, Sr., M.D. CarrollBower wrote: Missy,Don't dispair, that is a common symptom of Toxic Mold.It is also a symptom of C.O exposure. Be sure youdon't have any gas leaks too. The mold really doesmake you feel like you are caring lots of extra weightall the time. I beleive that is due to penetration andmuscle fatigue. You need to get busy with us and jointhe National Toxic Mold Coalition and be our rep inOkla.--- meekermissy <reddnkgrl@...> wrote:> anyone else have problems with depression and> suicidal thoughts after > longterm mold exposure? the two could have no> connection at all but > i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at> work and just cry > all the time all i can think is that it would be> easier to not be > here i have no energy to do anything i dont get> anything done at > work or at home for that matter. i feel completely> drained all the > time and my family and coworkers just think i am> lazy and dont want > to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late> everyday cause i > cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely> useless. I have > tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. > My main problem > is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. > I cant work > much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move> to. please let me > know if anyone has had similar problems or if its> just me.> > meekermissy> > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Dear Missy: You are not crazy. I was exposed to massive amounts of toxic substances while working in the Department of Transportation's Nassif building, located in Washington, DC. There are probably many things wrong with me now, but the main effect the building had on me was Major Depressive Disorder (Recurrent - Moderate to Severe) without psychotic features. This is about as bad as depression can get. I have had several doctors and psychiatrists diagnose me with this disease. It was about one year ago that I became aware that the Nassif building could have been the problem. I have researched this building, my symptoms while in the building and am firmly convinced that the building caused the problem. This happened to me between 1993 and mid 1995. I have had a major fight on my hands to save my sanity. I refuse, however, to let them win! Don't let this get you down. Fight it with all your might. This group represent the harbingers of a plague that is almost certain to infest the entire World, if very positive things are not forthcoming. Join us at the group. You and others that have experienced this infestation are the witnesses to a problem that is affecting many, including our children. Lets come together as an activist group, and convince the world of what WE KNOW, not just what someone might suspect. We are the proof. They will only be able to provide lip service to this problem for so long. If we continue to fight back, we will be doing the World a great service. Hang in there Missy, the group and more importantly, the World, needs you. We have a major battle to wage, and need people like us. We are going to prove this before long. If you or any of the others in the group would like, I will send you my research of my toxic disease, and the buildings massive contaminations. Depression is very much an affect of toxic mold contamination. Do everything you have to in order to stop the exposure. If you are still around the mold, GET AWAY FROM IT! Seek the help of professionals in order to manage the depression. I have seen 10 or 12 doctors and psychiatrists over the past seven years, and have continually improved. I will never be the same as I was, but look forward to the improvements I have experienced. Toxic Mold contamination manifests itself in many ways. Some of us are more susceptible to this contamination than others. That does not make us weaker, it merely shows that some things affect us differently because of our matabolisms. We have become the harbingers of what is to come. Our opponents will tell us that this only affects a few susceptible individuals. That might be true, and probably is, however, these supposed unsusceptibe individuals still have the long-term exposure effects coming sometime in the furure. As a lay person, I can only tell you to GET AWAY from the exposure, if you have not already. Seek help to manage your depression, and help us bring this major plague problem to the World. You, I, and all the rest of this group represents a major tool in the fight for life. Both, for us, our children, and many others that have yet to be exposed. Praying for your Relief, Larry N. McQuarie, Sr. Parsons, Kansas 67357 >From: " meekermissy " <reddnkgrl@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [] am i crazy??? >Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:30:45 -0000 > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after longterm mold exposure? the two could have no connection at all but i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at work and just cry all the time all i can think is that it would be easier to not be here i have no energy to do anything i dont get anything done at work or at home for that matter. i feel completely drained all the time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely useless. I have tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. My main problem is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. I cant work much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. please let me know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me. meekermissy FAIR USE NOTICE: This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. 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Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Dear Missy, No you are NOT crazy. I was severely exposed to toxic molds at work including stachybotrus. I wear a 3m mask all the time and now have severe asthma. They knew about this at work through an enviremental report and did nothing. The report was a year ago. Now they dont know what to say. My eras burn,plants give me instant "pnemoniia, depression, I am on anti anxiety pills. YOU ARE NOT CRAZY! A doctor tried to tell me that at the clinic at the shipyard I work at and I wouldnt stand for it. Now I am talking to a lawyer. WE WILL FIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Janet s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 21, 2002 Report Share Posted August 21, 2002 Dear Larry, What a great guy, thanks so much for speaking out to Missy, we are all in this boat together and the only way to keep it afloat is to keep paddling, (the lines of communication open.) I have all the caring in the world for those who are hurt from this, and am working on the funds to help with the caring. Awareness is the answer, for so many know and so many don't know what we have been through. It is a biological warfare of sorts. For those who wish to undermine the effects of mycotoxins on the body, I have hundreds of letters to present this month to Congress, as well as hundreds of same symptom correlations. The old saying seems to be, " Better you than me " but if my predictions are right, which they usually are, I forsee Toxic Mold racking havoc with the very ones denying it. Then they will join us. So hold on tight...it promises to be a roller coaster ride of your life and the National Toxic Mold will be at the Helm. Congress has been calling! --- Larry McQuarie <triggerpom@...> wrote: > Dear Missy: > > You are not crazy. I was exposed to massive amounts > of toxic substances > while working in the Department of Transportation's > Nassif building, located > in Washington, DC. There are probably many things > wrong with me now, but > the main effect the building had on me was Major > Depressive Disorder > (Recurrent - Moderate to Severe) without psychotic > features. This is about > as bad as depression can get. > > I have had several doctors and psychiatrists > diagnose me with this disease. > It was about one year ago that I became aware that > the Nassif building could > have been the problem. I have researched this > building, my symptoms while > in the building and am firmly convinced that the > building caused the > problem. This happened to me between 1993 and mid > 1995. I have had a major > fight on my hands to save my sanity. I refuse, > however, to let them win! > > Don't let this get you down. Fight it with all your > might. This group > represent the harbingers of a plague that is almost > certain to infest the > entire World, if very positive things are not > forthcoming. Join us at the > group. You and others that have experienced this > infestation are the > witnesses to a problem that is affecting many, > including our children. Lets > come together as an activist group, and convince the > world of what WE KNOW, > not just what someone might suspect. We are the > proof. They will only be > able to provide lip service to this problem for so > long. If we continue to > fight back, we will be doing the World a great > service. > > Hang in there Missy, the group and more importantly, > the World, needs you. > We have a major battle to wage, and need people like > us. We are going to > prove this before long. If you or any of the others > in the group would > like, I will send you my research of my toxic > disease, and the buildings > massive contaminations. Depression is very much an > affect of toxic mold > contamination. > > Do everything you have to in order to stop the > exposure. If you are still > around the mold, GET AWAY FROM IT! Seek the help of > professionals in order > to manage the depression. I have seen 10 or 12 > doctors and psychiatrists > over the past seven years, and have continually > improved. I will never be > the same as I was, but look forward to the > improvements I have experienced. > > Toxic Mold contamination manifests itself in many > ways. Some of us are more > susceptible to this contamination than others. That > does not make us > weaker, it merely shows that some things affect us > differently because of > our matabolisms. We have become the harbingers of > what is to come. > > Our opponents will tell us that this only affects a > few susceptible > individuals. That might be true, and probably is, > however, these supposed > unsusceptibe individuals still have the long-term > exposure effects coming > sometime in the furure. > > As a lay person, I can only tell you to GET AWAY > from the exposure, if you > have not already. Seek help to manage your > depression, and help us bring > this major plague problem to the World. You, I, and > all the rest of this > group represents a major tool in the fight for life. > Both, for us, our > children, and many others that have yet to be > exposed. > > Praying for your Relief, > Larry N. McQuarie, Sr. > Parsons, Kansas 67357 > > > > > > > >From: " meekermissy " <reddnkgrl@...> > >Reply- > > > >Subject: [] am i crazy??? > >Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:30:45 -0000 > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > your photos: > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > > From: " meekermissy " <reddnkgrl@...> > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:30:45 -0000 > Subject: [] am i crazy??? > <HR> <html><body> <tt> anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after <BR> longterm mold exposure? & nbsp; the two could have no connection at all but <BR> i need to know im at the end of my rope & nbsp; i sit at work and just cry <BR> all the time & nbsp; all i can think is that it would be easier to not be <BR> here & nbsp; i have no energy to do anything & nbsp; i dont get anything done at <BR> work or at home for that matter. & nbsp; i feel completely drained all the <BR> time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want <BR> to work. & nbsp; i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i <BR> cant wake up in the mornings. & nbsp; i feel completely useless. & nbsp; I have <BR> tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. & nbsp; My main problem <BR> is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. & nbsp; I cant work <BR> much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. & nbsp; please let me <BR> know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me.<BR> <BR> meekermissy<BR> <BR> </tt> <br> <br> <tt> FAIR USE NOTICE:<BR> <BR> This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. 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Guest guest Posted August 22, 2002 Report Share Posted August 22, 2002 > > anyone else have problems with depression and > > suicidal thoughts after > > longterm mold exposure? the two could have no > > connection at all but > > i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at > > work and just cry > > all the time all i can think is that it would be > > easier to not be > > here i have no energy to do anything i dont get > > anything done at > > work or at home for that matter. i feel completely > > drained all the > > time and my family and coworkers just think i am > > lazy and dont want > > to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late > > everyday cause i > > cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely > > useless. I have > > tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. > > My main problem > > is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. > > I cant work > > much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move > > to. please let me > > know if anyone has had similar problems or if its > > just me. > > > > meekermissy > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Look at my web site for information germane to your problem. Today, I am about 95% recovered from my exposure. I think I’ll wind up with a diminution in my lung capacity of 10- 15%. If, I had realized sooner what the web site explains, I know the speed of my recovery would have been more rapid and the degree more complete. www.stachy.5u.com ph P. Klein, Sr., M.D. meekermissy wrote: anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after longterm mold exposure? the two could have no connection at all but i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at work and just cry all the time all i can think is that it would be easier to not be here i have no energy to do anything i dont get anything done at work or at home for that matter. i feel completely drained all the time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely useless. I have tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. My main problem is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. I cant work much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. please let me know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me.meekermissyFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 Joe, I see that exact same verbage come out of you about every 6 weeks as if by cut and paste. Fortunately, Dr Gray, Dr. Kent in England, Dr. Christian Leianl in France, have been working with me for several months and been able to dispel several of the very old myths behind the stachybotrys ideaology and remediation, IAQ, (clothes washing theory) and several new topics that have been financially researched and discovered. Additionally, they have shed some light on some old ideas about treatment; fact and fiction that I would be happy to disseminate in my papers. I look forward to sharing those ideas in the near future. Many with new ideas, new treatments ideas, and new wording as well. www.mold-help.org www.mold-survivor.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Klein Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [] am i crazy??? Look at my web site for information germane to your problem. Today, I am about 95% recovered from my exposure. I think I’ll wind up with a diminution in my lung capacity of 10- 15%. If, I had realized sooner what the web site explains, I know the speed of my recovery would have been more rapid and the degree more complete. www.stachy.5u.com ph P. Klein, Sr., M.D. meekermissy wrote: anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after longterm mold exposure? the two could have no connection at all but i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at work and just cry all the time all i can think is that it would be easier to not be here i have no energy to do anything i dont get anything done at work or at home for that matter. i feel completely drained all the time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely useless. I have tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. My main problem is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. I cant work much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. please let me know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me.meekermissyFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 25, 2002 Report Share Posted August 25, 2002 , Of course you know we want you to come talk at the convention. Let me know. Carroll-Bower,President,NTMC --- MOLD HELP <toxic@...> wrote: > Joe, I see that exact same verbage come out of you > about every 6 weeks as if by cut and paste. > Fortunately, Dr Gray, Dr. Kent in > England, Dr. Christian Leianl in France, have been > working with me for several months and been able to > dispel several of the very old myths behind the > stachybotrys ideaology and remediation, IAQ, > (clothes washing theory) and several new topics that > have been financially researched and discovered. > Additionally, they have shed some light on some old > ideas about treatment; fact and fiction that I would > be happy to disseminate in my papers. > > I look forward to sharing those ideas in the near > future. Many with new ideas, new treatments ideas, > and new wording as well. > > > www.mold-help.org > www.mold-survivor.com > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Joe Klein > > Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 8:53 PM > Subject: Re: [] am i crazy??? > > > Look at my web site for information germane to > your problem. Today, I am about 95% recovered > from my exposure. I think I'll wind up with a > diminution in my lung capacity of 10- 15%. If, I > had realized sooner what the web site explains, I > know the speed of my recovery would have been more > rapid and the degree more complete. > > > > www.stachy.5u.com > > > > ph P. Klein, Sr., M.D. > > meekermissy wrote: > > anyone else have problems with depression and > suicidal thoughts after > longterm mold exposure? the two could have no > connection at all but > i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit > at work and just cry > all the time all i can think is that it would > be easier to not be > here i have no energy to do anything i dont > get anything done at > work or at home for that matter. i feel > completely drained all the > time and my family and coworkers just think i am > lazy and dont want > to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours > late everyday cause i > cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely > useless. I have > tried taking energy pills, they just make me > shaky. My main problem > is that i still live in the contaminated > apartment. I cant work > much, so i am low on funds, have no where to > move to. please let me > know if anyone has had similar problems or if > its just me. > > meekermissy > > > > FAIR USE NOTICE: > > This site contains copyrighted material the use > of which has not always been specifically authorized > by the copyright owner. We are making such material > available in our efforts to advance understanding of > environmental, political, human rights, economic, > democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, > etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any > such copyrighted material as provided for in section > 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with > Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this > site is distributed without profit to those who have > expressed a prior interest in receiving the included > information for research and educational purposes. > For more information go to: > http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If > you wish to use copyrighted material from this site > for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', > you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 26, 2002 Report Share Posted August 26, 2002 Its not just you. You just described me exactly. Get out of the contaminated home. I left two weeks after finding the mold and almost a year later am still recovering. I hate to think how bad I would be if I were still there. My immune system two months after leaving the contaminated apartment was not functioning. It is now but my doctor says the recovery time will take 6 mos to two years. It is very depressing to feel so weak all the time and even more so because no one understands what you are going through. Just know that you are not alone. >From: " meekermissy " <reddnkgrl@...> >Reply- > >Subject: [] am i crazy??? >Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:30:45 -0000 > >anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after >longterm mold exposure? the two could have no connection at all but >i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at work and just cry >all the time all i can think is that it would be easier to not be >here i have no energy to do anything i dont get anything done at >work or at home for that matter. i feel completely drained all the >time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want >to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i >cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely useless. I have >tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. My main problem >is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. I cant work >much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. please let me >know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me. > >meekermissy > _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 27, 2002 Report Share Posted August 27, 2002 Dear Missy, I can't speak for others, but over the years I've talked with numerous people who have experienced this side effect from mycotoxin exposure. I spent 2 long years taking Prozac (like an idiot) for depression and it did nothing to help. I gave suicide a passing thought more than once - not so much from the depression but from the increasing level of pain that prevented me from sleeping or moving - but I have a husband and children (5 sons) and knowing them, they would take it personally. When I really thought about it, I didn't want to die and have to live this all over again, I just wanted to know how to cure myself. Last year, two of my sons moved into a contaminated apartment in Tampa. Within a week, the younger one was calling me crying and hysterical - telling me he felt like he was losing his mind. They moved out and within a week he was feeling better. Whenever anyone tells me they have started experiencing bizarre thoughts and depression, the first thing I tell them is to look for mold. As long as you continue to expose yourself to this stuff, the worse you will get. If there is anyway possible to get out of the moldy environment, you need to make every effort to do it. Perhaps if you printed some of the articles here in our forum, it might help your co-workers become more understanding of what you are going through. Best wishes, Barbara Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 28, 2002 Report Share Posted August 28, 2002 Dear Missy, Hi. I've been reading messages on this board for a while but joined today to write to you. You are not going crazy. You are not losing your mind. And the depression that you are experiencing has to do with mold's attack on your central nervous system. Please please don't give up. You will get better. And when you do get better there will be days that are hard. Before I left my toxic home I had no idea what was happening to me. I honestly thought I was dying, or losing my mind. I was so scared, and so lonely. Slowly I dropped out of everything: school, friendships, relationships, work, volunteer work. I couldn't exercise and I was either not hungry or voraciously hungry. I have been out of the house for less than six months and my life is changing dramatically. I left every stitch of clothing and all my possessions. I thought that I had no where to go and was really surprised that a friend at work had an extra room. I mean, I never would have dreamed of asking her and I thought I was going to be without a home! Still I have memory troubles. Gosh, I just got a telephone call from someone I do not remember calling for months -- aparently I left a message two days ago! It's o.k. It is REALLY hard. Perhaps the hardest part is explaining over and over about toxic mold and seeing peoples' eyes glaze over. Right now people think it's something madeup but it isn't. Just say, " Are you familiar with toxic mold? Oh, you can read about it on the web. " And leave it at that. It's not our job to explain something so complex and emotionally difficult to even think about. I'm not working anymore and I actually count my change now. You know what, though? I love this new chubby, memory-challenged ME a lot better than I loved who I was before, when things seemed so " easy. " Little tiny achievements (I read the paper today) mean so much. I'm not trying to preach at all. Just sharing a little news from my world of traveling out the mold. Write me if you'd like to; any time: septembersea4me@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 30, 2002 Report Share Posted August 30, 2002 , Thank you for you e-mail. I did look at your web sites. My web site documents primairly what worked for me I continue to be well as long as I follow the principals outlined. I'll give you a call this weekend, if your number hasen't changed. Joe MOLD HELP wrote: Joe, I see that exact same verbage come out of you about every 6 weeks as if by cut and paste. Fortunately, Dr Gray, Dr. Kent in England, Dr. Christian Leianl in France, have been working with me for several months and been able to dispel several of the very old myths behind the stachybotrys ideaology and remediation, IAQ, (clothes washing theory) and several new topics that have been financially researched and discovered. Additionally, they have shed some light on some old ideas about treatment; fact and fiction that I would be happy to disseminate in my papers. I look forward to sharing those ideas in the near future. Many with new ideas, new treatments ideas, and new wording as well. www.mold-help.org www.mold-survivor.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Joe Klein Sent: Saturday, August 24, 2002 8:53 PM Subject: Re: [] am i crazy??? Look at my web site for information germane to your problem. Today, I am about 95% recovered from my exposure. I think I’ll wind up with a diminution in my lung capacity of 10- 15%. If, I had realized sooner what the web site explains, I know the speed of my recovery would have been more rapid and the degree more complete. www.stachy.5u.com ph P. Klein, Sr., M.D. meekermissy wrote: anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal thoughts after longterm mold exposure? the two could have no connection at all but i need to know im at the end of my rope i sit at work and just cry all the time all i can think is that it would be easier to not be here i have no energy to do anything i dont get anything done at work or at home for that matter. i feel completely drained all the time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy and dont want to work. i roll into work an hour to two hours late everyday cause i cant wake up in the mornings. i feel completely useless. I have tried taking energy pills, they just make me shaky. My main problem is that i still live in the contaminated apartment. I cant work much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move to. please let me know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just me.meekermissyFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. For more information go to: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml. If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2002 Report Share Posted September 9, 2002 This website has beem my savior aand a way for info and to prove I am not alone. I send hugs to everyone living with this nightmare. I am very sick. A very nice lady sent this website to the reporter for me who did a newspaper article on me. Keep up the good work and NONE of us are alone this way...Janet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2002 Report Share Posted September 9, 2002 My sincere thanks to all of you...I just discovered your group and suddenly feel less alone! I live in France where awareness of this problem is apparently even less than in the USA. Since moving into my house 2 years ago, my thyroid has stopped functionning normally and I've had to start taking anti-depressant medication on top of that. I'm convinced that the dry rot I've just discovered is at least part of the cause but the doctors I've seen just sort of smile as if I'm crazy. I'll be checking in here regularly now to help preserve my sanity as I pursue my options over here and hopefully find a way to move out! again, thank you. > > Dear Missy: > > > > You are not crazy. I was exposed to massive amounts > > of toxic substances > > while working in the Department of Transportation's > > Nassif building, located > > in Washington, DC. There are probably many things > > wrong with me now, but > > the main effect the building had on me was Major > > Depressive Disorder > > (Recurrent - Moderate to Severe) without psychotic > > features. This is about > > as bad as depression can get. > > > > I have had several doctors and psychiatrists > > diagnose me with this disease. > > It was about one year ago that I became aware that > > the Nassif building could > > have been the problem. I have researched this > > building, my symptoms while > > in the building and am firmly convinced that the > > building caused the > > problem. This happened to me between 1993 and mid > > 1995. I have had a major > > fight on my hands to save my sanity. I refuse, > > however, to let them win! > > > > Don't let this get you down. Fight it with all your > > might. This group > > represent the harbingers of a plague that is almost > > certain to infest the > > entire World, if very positive things are not > > forthcoming. Join us at the > > group. You and others that have experienced this > > infestation are the > > witnesses to a problem that is affecting many, > > including our children. Lets > > come together as an activist group, and convince the > > world of what WE KNOW, > > not just what someone might suspect. We are the > > proof. They will only be > > able to provide lip service to this problem for so > > long. If we continue to > > fight back, we will be doing the World a great > > service. > > > > Hang in there Missy, the group and more importantly, > > the World, needs you. > > We have a major battle to wage, and need people like > > us. We are going to > > prove this before long. If you or any of the others > > in the group would > > like, I will send you my research of my toxic > > disease, and the buildings > > massive contaminations. Depression is very much an > > affect of toxic mold > > contamination. > > > > Do everything you have to in order to stop the > > exposure. If you are still > > around the mold, GET AWAY FROM IT! Seek the help of > > professionals in order > > to manage the depression. I have seen 10 or 12 > > doctors and psychiatrists > > over the past seven years, and have continually > > improved. I will never be > > the same as I was, but look forward to the > > improvements I have experienced. > > > > Toxic Mold contamination manifests itself in many > > ways. Some of us are more > > susceptible to this contamination than others. That > > does not make us > > weaker, it merely shows that some things affect us > > differently because of > > our matabolisms. We have become the harbingers of > > what is to come. > > > > Our opponents will tell us that this only affects a > > few susceptible > > individuals. That might be true, and probably is, > > however, these supposed > > unsusceptibe individuals still have the long-term > > exposure effects coming > > sometime in the furure. > > > > As a lay person, I can only tell you to GET AWAY > > from the exposure, if you > > have not already. Seek help to manage your > > depression, and help us bring > > this major plague problem to the World. You, I, and > > all the rest of this > > group represents a major tool in the fight for life. > > Both, for us, our > > children, and many others that have yet to be > > exposed. > > > > Praying for your Relief, > > Larry N. McQuarie, Sr. > > Parsons, Kansas 67357 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >From: " meekermissy " <reddnkgrl@h...> > > >Reply-@y... > > >@y... > > >Subject: [] am i crazy??? > > >Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:30:45 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print > > your photos: > > http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx > > > > > ATTACHMENT part 2 message/rfc822 > > @y... > > From: " meekermissy " <reddnkgrl@h...> > > Date: Tue, 20 Aug 2002 17:30:45 -0000 > > Subject: [] am i crazy??? > > > > <HR> > <html><body> > > > <tt> > anyone else have problems with depression and suicidal > thoughts after <BR> > longterm mold exposure? & nbsp; the two could have no > connection at all but <BR> > i need to know im at the end of my rope & nbsp; i sit at > work and just cry <BR> > all the time & nbsp; all i can think is that it would be > easier to not be <BR> > here & nbsp; i have no energy to do anything & nbsp; i > dont get anything done at <BR> > work or at home for that matter. & nbsp; i feel > completely drained all the <BR> > time and my family and coworkers just think i am lazy > and dont want <BR> > to work. & nbsp; i roll into work an hour to two hours > late everyday cause i <BR> > cant wake up in the mornings. & nbsp; i feel completely > useless. & nbsp; I have <BR> > tried taking energy pills, they just make me > shaky. & nbsp; My main problem <BR> > is that i still live in the contaminated > apartment. & nbsp; I cant work <BR> > much, so i am low on funds, have no where to move > to. & nbsp; please let me <BR> > know if anyone has had similar problems or if its just > me.<BR> > <BR> > meekermissy<BR> > <BR> > </tt> > > <br> > > > > > <br> > <tt> > FAIR USE NOTICE:<BR> > <BR> > This site contains copyrighted material the use of > which has not always been specifically authorized by > the copyright owner. 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Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Rabecca, you are AMAZING!!!!!! No, it's not wrong! If you have the energy and all is well in your household and your spouse agrees, why not? You're an expert by now! LOL!!! Maralee >^..^< Am I crazy??? Hi there… Yep… Its me again… and I am going through empty nest (without the nest being quite empty)… My oldest are out on their own… My 14-year-old (AS) is doing GREAT and we celebrate his life… My 6-year-old is now in school FT and is doing really well (though we haven’t quite figured out where her mind goes part of the time or why she is able to do lots of things at one time and fewer things when her mind is “gone”) None of them need us the way they used to… We can stand back and cheer… We can support them through attending their activities and volunteering… But they are now on “autopilot” They don’t NEED us as intensively as they used to… We are actually considering adopting another special needs kiddo… Yep… All of mine have had challenges (and only one is biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome and thrive… and that is a good thing, but then I need to find somewhere else to put all of this energy!!! (Yes, I DO want them to get better and worry incessantly when they aren’t improving, but you know how it is…) Am I crazy??? I have dealt with bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA, AS, OC, OD, seizure disorders, diabetic, brain damaged, abused kids and we seem to be able to regulate meds and environment until things are “good”… Dare I say the word “normal”? Any advice? I have enough pets… I love my kids and wouldn’t replace one for the world… Is it wrong to think about getting another??? Rabecca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Hi , I know how you feel, and am hoping you aren't crazy because if you are then I am too! You sound like you just need a lot of challenge in your life. I have been like that too and tend to get really bored if I am not struggling with some sort of problem head on with all my energy. Is why I take care of my three grandchildren while my daughter works I guess. There is so much to do with them every day. You know, you might try to find something else to vent your high level of energy on, rather than adopting another child. I have just found that as life goes by I am getting older, and I really do need more time to devote to my own needs as a person. Not that I do much for myself, but I do think I need to, if I could figure out how to do it. haha When I went to the university I majored in leisure studies, and one class I took was rally interesting, the social psychology of leisure or something like that, and I learned that we all have different arousal levels. Like say, some folks might not have any fun at all unless they were sky diving or mountain climbing, while others would be quite content at sewing or gardening. Evidentially we each have different levels that must be challenged within ourselves, and we are all different from one another. Perhaps you need leisure counseling, that is what some of the students went into. I found it really fascinating. They would sit some unhappy depressed bussiness man down and try to figure out why he was so miserable. He had made it in life at his career, had enough money, etc., but had no zest left for life. Well come to find out it was because he needed new challenges, so they would custom design things for him until they hit on something the guy loved, and then he began to flourish again. Gosh I am making myself think here too. I was wanting to take a swimming workout class, been taking the kids swimming lately, and tried to swim myself and didn't get far. But the fact is I used to be on the swimming team when I was young, and it did feel kind of good the little ways I went. They did say in class that what we love may very well be something we loved as a child. Hmmmmmmmmmm. Nope you are not crazy, just bored probably. Lots of love to you, tell us how it works out! Carolyn Am I crazy??? Hi there… Yep… Its me again… and I am going through empty nest (without the nest being quite empty)… My oldest are out on their own… My 14-year-old (AS) is doing GREAT and we celebrate his life… My 6-year-old is now in school FT and is doing really well (though we haven’t quite figured out where her mind goes part of the time or why she is able to do lots of things at one time and fewer things when her mind is “gone”) None of them need us the way they used to… We can stand back and cheer… We can support them through attending their activities and volunteering… But they are now on “autopilot” They don’t NEED us as intensively as they used to… We are actually considering adopting another special needs kiddo… Yep… All of mine have had challenges (and only one is biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome and thrive… and that is a good thing, but then I need to find somewhere else to put all of this energy!!! (Yes, I DO want them to get better and worry incessantly when they aren’t improving, but you know how it is…) Am I crazy??? I have dealt with bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA, AS, OC, OD, seizure disorders, diabetic, brain damaged, abused kids and we seem to be able to regulate meds and environment until things are “good”… Dare I say the word “normal”? Any advice? I have enough pets… I love my kids and wouldn’t replace one for the world… Is it wrong to think about getting another??? Rabecca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2005 Report Share Posted January 5, 2005 Wow! You must be really good at this because I’m struggling with just 1 child! What a gift you have, as long as you are both agreed, why would it be wrong!?! From: Rabecca Whalen [mailto:rabeccawhalen@...] Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:20 PM Autism-Aspergers Subject: Am I crazy??? Hi there… Yep… Its me again… and I am going through empty nest (without the nest being quite empty)… My oldest are out on their own… My 14-year-old (AS) is doing GREAT and we celebrate his life… My 6-year-old is now in school FT and is doing really well (though we haven’t quite figured out where her mind goes part of the time or why she is able to do lots of things at one time and fewer things when her mind is “gone”) None of them need us the way they used to… We can stand back and cheer… We can support them through attending their activities and volunteering… But they are now on “autopilot” They don’t NEED us as intensively as they used to… We are actually considering adopting another special needs kiddo… Yep… All of mine have had challenges (and only one is biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome and thrive… and that is a good thing, but then I need to find somewhere else to put all of this energy!!! (Yes, I DO want them to get better and worry incessantly when they aren’t improving, but you know how it is…) Am I crazy??? I have dealt with bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA, AS, OC, OD, seizure disorders, diabetic, brain damaged, abused kids and we seem to be able to regulate meds and environment until things are “good”… Dare I say the word “normal”? Any advice? I have enough pets… I love my kids and wouldn’t replace one for the world… Is it wrong to think about getting another??? Rabecca Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 My wife and I do foster parenting for infants at risk. This fills the nest --- Rabecca Whalen <rabeccawhalen@...> wrote: > Hi there… > > Yep… Its me again… and I am going through empty nest > (without the nest being > quite empty)… My oldest are out on their own… My > 14-year-old (AS) is doing > GREAT and we celebrate his life… My 6-year-old is > now in school FT and is > doing really well (though we haven’t quite figured > out where her mind goes > part of the time or why she is able to do lots of > things at one time and > fewer things when her mind is “gone”) None of them > need us the way they used > to… We can stand back and cheer… We can support them > through attending their > activities and volunteering… But they are now on > “autopilot” They don’t NEED > us as intensively as they used to… We are actually > considering adopting > another special needs kiddo… Yep… All of mine have > had challenges (and only > one is biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome > and thrive… and that is a > good thing, but then I need to find somewhere else > to put all of this > energy!!! (Yes, I DO want them to get better and > worry incessantly when they > aren’t improving, but you know how it is…) Am I > crazy??? I have dealt with > bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA, AS, OC, OD, seizure > disorders, diabetic, > brain damaged, abused kids and we seem to be able to > regulate meds and > environment until things are “good”… Dare I say the > word “normal”? > > Any advice? I have enough pets… I love my kids and > wouldn’t replace one for > the world… Is it wrong to think about getting > another??? > > Rabecca > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 , Throughout each weekday, I have a total of 10 kids that come and go at various times. Many are high risk, some have been foster (or are the children of adults raised through the system), have special needs that need to be addressed, or are " exceptional " and need support and input that keeps up with their pace. Two of these are infants. One is low functioning but definitely on the spectrum. I have one with dyslexia, one with seizures, and most are either experiencing major transitions in their home lives or have survived one fairly recently. Like foster kids, they all eventually move on… I guess I have come to like and appreciate the permanency of some of my kiddos. I can put a lot of work into them and never see it bare fruit, and that is okay but I really like to watch the continuing transformation… Also, I wouldn't be looking at infants… The reason I now have day babies instead of foster babies is that mine go home at night and I still get to sleep!!! I did foster for a number of years. It was wonderful, but boy it rips your heart out when they are ready to move on…Perhaps we will get in to foster again, but then it will be with older children, who can learn our number (as the older ones tend to keep in touch and call if things get bad again). Hmmmm… Thanks for making me think though. That is what I need to really get a handle on what we should do!!! ~hugs~ Rabecca > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 , But there is always the risk of taking on more than we can handle or getting a child in that plays havoc on our other kids... They all have needs, so how do we make sure that we get another that we can support without compromising the environment we have created for the others? I guess I am a bit nervous about taking another, but the idea is exciting enough to where I can't seem to dismiss it (and my husband is all for it!) ~hugs~ Rabecca > Wow! You must be really good at this because I'm struggling with just 1 > child! What a gift you have, as long as you are both agreed, why would it > be wrong!?! > > > > > > > > _____ > > From: Rabecca Whalen [mailto:rabeccawhalen@v...] > Sent: Tuesday, January 04, 2005 4:20 PM > Autism-Aspergers > Subject: Am I crazy??? > > > > Hi there. > > > > Yep. Its me again. and I am going through empty nest (without the nest being > quite empty). My oldest are out on their own. My 14-year-old (AS) is doing > GREAT and we celebrate his life. My 6-year-old is now in school FT and is > doing really well (though we haven't quite figured out where her mind goes > part of the time or why she is able to do lots of things at one time and > fewer things when her mind is " gone " ) None of them need us the way they used > to. We can stand back and cheer. We can support them through attending their > activities and volunteering. But they are now on " autopilot " They don't NEED > us as intensively as they used to. We are actually considering adopting > another special needs kiddo. Yep. All of mine have had challenges (and only > one is biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome and thrive. and that is a > good thing, but then I need to find somewhere else to put all of this > energy!!! (Yes, I DO want them to get better and worry incessantly when they > aren't improving, but you know how it is.) Am I crazy??? I have dealt with > bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA, AS, OC, OD, seizure disorders, diabetic, > brain damaged, abused kids and we seem to be able to regulate meds and > environment until things are " good " . Dare I say the word " normal " ? > > > > Any advice? I have enough pets. I love my kids and wouldn't replace one for > the world. Is it wrong to think about getting another??? > > > > Rabecca > > > > _____ > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Carolyn, That definately could be it, because it seems like whenever things slow down around here, I have to find something else... I don't sit still well and definately can't stay awake through a whole movie, so it is either keep the brain active or I go to sleep. On top of raising kids and working with kids 60 hours a week, I also run a Brownie troop and help with the church youth group once a week. I guess I need the stimulation that naturally comes when you are helping others!!! ~hugs~ Rabecca PS... I finished my 4-year business degree one year ago, 4.0 GPA, Valedictorian, all just to find out that I wouldn't be happy working anywhere but with kids... Go figure!!! ~winks~ > Hi , > > I know how you feel, and am hoping you aren't crazy > because if you are then I am too! You sound like you just > need a lot of challenge in your life. I have been like that > too and tend to get really bored if I am not struggling with > some sort of problem head on with all my energy. Is why I > take care of my three grandchildren while my daughter works > I guess. There is so much to do with them every day. > > You know, you might try to find something else to vent > your high level of energy on, rather than adopting another > child. I have just found that as life goes by I am getting > older, and I really do need more time to devote to my own > needs as a person. Not that I do much for myself, but I do > think I need to, if I could figure out how to do it. haha > > When I went to the university I majored in leisure > studies, and one class I took was rally interesting, the > social psychology of leisure or something like that, and I > learned that we all have different arousal levels. Like say, > some folks might not have any fun at all unless they were > sky diving or mountain climbing, while others would be quite > content at sewing or gardening. Evidentially we each have > different levels that must be challenged within ourselves, > and we are all different from one another. > > Perhaps you need leisure counseling, that is what some > of the students went into. I found it really fascinating. > They would sit some unhappy depressed bussiness man down and > try to figure out why he was so miserable. He had made it in > life at his career, had enough money, etc., but had no zest > left for life. Well come to find out it was because he > needed new challenges, so they would custom design things > for him until they hit on something the guy loved, and then > he began to flourish again. > > Gosh I am making myself think here too. I was wanting to > take a swimming workout class, been taking the kids swimming > lately, and tried to swim myself and didn't get far. But the > fact is I used to be on the swimming team when I was young, > and it did feel kind of good the little ways I went. They > did say in class that what we love may very well be > something we loved as a child. > > Hmmmmmmmmmm. Nope you are not crazy, just bored > probably. > > Lots of love to you, tell us how it works out! > Carolyn > Am I crazy??? > > > Hi there. > > > > Yep. Its me again. and I am going through empty nest > (without the nest being quite empty). My oldest are out on > their own. My 14-year-old (AS) is doing GREAT and we > celebrate his life. My 6-year-old is now in school FT and is > doing really well (though we haven't quite figured out where > her mind goes part of the time or why she is able to do lots > of things at one time and fewer things when her mind is > " gone " ) None of them need us the way they used to. We can > stand back and cheer. We can support them through attending > their activities and volunteering. But they are now on > " autopilot " They don't NEED us as intensively as they used > to. We are actually considering adopting another special > needs kiddo. Yep. All of mine have had challenges (and only > one is biological). Yet, they all seem to overcome and > thrive. and that is a good thing, but then I need to find > somewhere else to put all of this energy!!! (Yes, I DO want > them to get better and worry incessantly when they aren't > improving, but you know how it is.) Am I crazy??? I have > dealt with bipolar, depression, ADHD, HFA, AS, OC, OD, > seizure disorders, diabetic, brain damaged, abused kids and > we seem to be able to regulate meds and environment until > things are " good " . Dare I say the word " normal " ? > > > > Any advice? I have enough pets. I love my kids and wouldn't > replace one for the world. Is it wrong to think about > getting another??? > > > > Rabecca > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------ > -------------------- > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2005 Report Share Posted January 6, 2005 Maralee, ~laughing and shaking my head~ You know what my Aspie son says about " experts " ??? Ex means has been and a spurt is a drip under pressure... so if I am an expert, that means I am a " has-been, drip, under pressure!!! ~winks~ Thanks for your vote of confidence!!! ~hugs~ Rabecca > Rabecca, you are AMAZING!!!!!! > No, it's not wrong! If you have the energy and all is well in your household > and your spouse agrees, why not? You're an expert by now! LOL!!! > > > Maralee > >^..^< > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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