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Ellie,

Unfortunately, since the calcium blockers are not effective, I think

that you might be forced to consider a different treatment. I assure

you that having a Heller myotomy isn't all that bad. It's a procedure

that has been performed for almost a century, and complications are

very rare. It also is not terribly painful. I was told that it offers

substantial improvement to at least 90% of the people who have it (I'm

fortunately one of those 90%). I've had 5 surgeries of various types

so far, and I'm still going strong.

I'll leave it to someone who's experienced it to discuss dilations.

Jeff (aka Hey, you)

>

> I've been diagnosed with A since 2000, and since then have lost 63

> pounds, I am able to eat by taking nitro and a calcium blocker, but

> it doesn't always work, it depends on what kind of food i eat. I

was

> maintaining with Ensure Plus, but now i just seem to be losing more

> weight. My doctor hasn't done anything since they tried stretching

> my " E " , to say the least I am frustrated. If i don't take the

> medication, even water doesn't pass. What can I do, I am afraid of

> surgery, it seems all I've read that the condition gets worse. I

> only have that one hour after i take my medicine that I can eat, if

I

> get hungry after that time, I can't eat! Any suggestions on getting

> more food! To Gain! Thanks for responding. Ellie.

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You didn't give your age or other conditions. If you are having

continuing trouble there is only one solution and that is to see a

good gi and likely a surgeon. The condition does not go away or get

better.

Click on the database on the group achalasia home page and see

if there is a doctor in your area. Tell us where you live. Don't

mess around taking other new tests because the place where you get

treatment will want their own tests. I'd suggest starting with a

good gi.

This isn't going away. There are no food secrets. You are already

probably looking at at least a month before you can work your way

through the doctors and tests to make a decision and your swallowing

will likely get worse. Start now.

Life is much better after treatment for most.

Sandy in So Cal.

> >

> > I've been diagnosed with A since 2000, and since then have lost

63

> > pounds, I am able to eat by taking nitro and a calcium blocker,

but

> > it doesn't always work, it depends on what kind of food i eat. I

> was

> > maintaining with Ensure Plus, but now i just seem to be losing

more

> > weight. My doctor hasn't done anything since they tried

stretching

> > my " E " , to say the least I am frustrated. If i don't take the

> > medication, even water doesn't pass. What can I do, I am afraid

of

> > surgery, it seems all I've read that the condition gets worse. I

> > only have that one hour after i take my medicine that I can eat,

if

> I

> > get hungry after that time, I can't eat! Any suggestions on

getting

> > more food! To Gain! Thanks for responding. Ellie.

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Ellie, welcome to the group and sorry to hear you are having so much trouble eating. I have been there and I know it very frustrating. I did not want surgery at one point so I was doing the dilation's and some were done with botox. But when you go back every 3 to 4 months that starts getting old. I finally caved in and had the surgery and it was done laporscopic. The surgery was not that bad at all and now I can maintain my weight. My suggestion is to find a specialist to help you with Achalasia. This is a progressive disease and surgery is one of the best options for us that have it. As for suggestions on what to eat to gain weight well you could always go to the health stores and ask for stuff that the body builders take to gain weight. Hope things are going well with you and your family.

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Thanks for responding so quickly, i will surely look into this heller

surgery. I am 49 year mother of 4 and my family doesn't understand

too much about my condition. I try to explain, but my husband is more

unerstanding now, whereby considers what I can and cannot eat. Ellie--

- In achalasia , " toomuchclutter " <sandycarroll@c...>

wrote:

>

> You didn't give your age or other conditions. If you are having

> continuing trouble there is only one solution and that is to see a

> good gi and likely a surgeon. The condition does not go away or

get

> better.

>

> Click on the database on the group achalasia home page and

see

> if there is a doctor in your area. Tell us where you live. Don't

> mess around taking other new tests because the place where you get

> treatment will want their own tests. I'd suggest starting with a

> good gi.

>

> This isn't going away. There are no food secrets. You are already

> probably looking at at least a month before you can work your way

> through the doctors and tests to make a decision and your

swallowing

> will likely get worse. Start now.

>

> Life is much better after treatment for most.

>

> Sandy in So Cal.

>

>

>

>

> > >

> > > I've been diagnosed with A since 2000, and since then have lost

> 63

> > > pounds, I am able to eat by taking nitro and a calcium blocker,

> but

> > > it doesn't always work, it depends on what kind of food i eat. I

> > was

> > > maintaining with Ensure Plus, but now i just seem to be losing

> more

> > > weight. My doctor hasn't done anything since they tried

> stretching

> > > my " E " , to say the least I am frustrated. If i don't take the

> > > medication, even water doesn't pass. What can I do, I am afraid

> of

> > > surgery, it seems all I've read that the condition gets worse.

I

> > > only have that one hour after i take my medicine that I can

eat,

> if

> > I

> > > get hungry after that time, I can't eat! Any suggestions on

> getting

> > > more food! To Gain! Thanks for responding. Ellie.

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Hi Ellie,

Welcome to the group. We are glad to

have you hear and hope you find everything helpful.

First of: DON’T be afraid of

surgery. I had it in September, and it was really no big deal. It

was actually more of a vacation from work than anything! J 1 – 2 nights

in the hospital and childrens tylenol. I feel almost normal now! As

others have said, achalasia will not go away. It will not get

better. The longer you wait for treatment, the more stretched out your

esophogus could possibly get. There are members of the group who this has

happened to. Sherry, for example, was told she waited too long to get

treatment, (10 years if I remember correctly and she had the myotomy) and is

now looking into having her esophogus removed because it is in such bad

shape.

I don’t mean to scare you, but

please find a GI who is experienced in achalasia and whom you are comfortable

with. This might not be an easy task, but they’re out there.

Maybe you are near enough to , or Sally in the UK, and they can help you?

Please take care of yourself, and have this taken care of. Soon enough

you will feel much better, and you can move on with a normal life + a little

extra water! J

As for gaining weight, try a protein

shake, or whey or creatine. All things that body builders use to build

muscle and gain weight. Chocolate was also something that most of us were

able to eat without trouble at our worst times.

Take care and keep us posted. We’ll

be thinking of you!

in BC

Frustrated...

I've been diagnosed with A since 2000, and since

then have lost 63

pounds, I am able to eat by taking nitro and a

calcium blocker, but

it doesn't always work, it depends on what kind of

food i eat. I was

maintaining with Ensure Plus, but now i just seem

to be losing more

weight. My doctor hasn't done anything since they

tried stretching

my " E " , to say the least I am

frustrated. If i don't take the

medication, even water doesn't pass. What can I

do, I am afraid of

surgery, it seems all I've read that the condition

gets worse. I

only have that one hour after i take my medicine

that I can eat, if I

get hungry after that time, I can't eat! Any

suggestions on getting

more food! To Gain! Thanks for responding.

Ellie.

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Hi Ellie,

Jeff is right - you must not be scared of surgery. You must also get a

gastroenterologist who is clued up about Achalasia and experienced with this

condition. Surgery is the first option and it is best that you have it as

soon as possible before your oesophagus stretches and makes the outcome of

surgery less sure.Please don't wait. I am sure the others will chip in with

doctors in your area.

Please feel free to ask questions and chat to us about your concerns - we

are here to help you.

Hugs

Joan

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>

>

> Ellie,

>

> Unfortunately, since the calcium blockers are not effective, I think

> that you might be forced to consider a different treatment. I assure

> you that having a Heller myotomy isn't all that bad. It's a procedure

> that has been performed for almost a century, and complications are

> very rare. It also is not terribly painful. I was told that it offers

> substantial improvement to at least 90% of the people who have it (I'm

> fortunately one of those 90%). I've had 5 surgeries of various types

> so far, and I'm still going strong.

>

> I'll leave it to someone who's experienced it to discuss dilations.

>

> Jeff (aka Hey, you)

>

>

>>

>> I've been diagnosed with A since 2000, and since then have lost 63

>> pounds, I am able to eat by taking nitro and a calcium blocker, but

>> it doesn't always work, it depends on what kind of food i eat. I

> was

>> maintaining with Ensure Plus, but now i just seem to be losing more

>> weight. My doctor hasn't done anything since they tried stretching

>> my " E " , to say the least I am frustrated. If i don't take the

>> medication, even water doesn't pass. What can I do, I am afraid of

>> surgery, it seems all I've read that the condition gets worse. I

>> only have that one hour after i take my medicine that I can eat, if

> I

>> get hungry after that time, I can't eat! Any suggestions on getting

>> more food! To Gain! Thanks for responding. Ellie.

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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--- Ellie.

Surgery was my only answer when I reached " that point " . I think

you're reaching " that point " if you're not already there.

Jo

In achalasia , " Joan Pearse " <jpearse@p...> wrote:

> Hi Ellie,

> Jeff is right - you must not be scared of surgery. You must also get a

> gastroenterologist who is clued up about Achalasia and experienced

with this

> condition. Surgery is the first option and it is best that you have

it as

> soon as possible before your oesophagus stretches and makes the

outcome of

> surgery less sure.Please don't wait. I am sure the others will chip

in with

> doctors in your area.

> Please feel free to ask questions and chat to us about your concerns

- we

> are here to help you.

> Hugs

> Joan

> Re: Frustrated...

>

>

> >

> >

> > Ellie,

> >

> > Unfortunately, since the calcium blockers are not effective, I think

> > that you might be forced to consider a different treatment. I assure

> > you that having a Heller myotomy isn't all that bad. It's a procedure

> > that has been performed for almost a century, and complications are

> > very rare. It also is not terribly painful. I was told that it offers

> > substantial improvement to at least 90% of the people who have it (I'm

> > fortunately one of those 90%). I've had 5 surgeries of various types

> > so far, and I'm still going strong.

> >

> > I'll leave it to someone who's experienced it to discuss dilations.

> >

> > Jeff (aka Hey, you)

> >

> >

> >>

> >> I've been diagnosed with A since 2000, and since then have lost 63

> >> pounds, I am able to eat by taking nitro and a calcium blocker, but

> >> it doesn't always work, it depends on what kind of food i eat. I

> > was

> >> maintaining with Ensure Plus, but now i just seem to be losing more

> >> weight. My doctor hasn't done anything since they tried stretching

> >> my " E " , to say the least I am frustrated. If i don't take the

> >> medication, even water doesn't pass. What can I do, I am afraid of

> >> surgery, it seems all I've read that the condition gets worse. I

> >> only have that one hour after i take my medicine that I can eat, if

> > I

> >> get hungry after that time, I can't eat! Any suggestions on getting

> >> more food! To Gain! Thanks for responding. Ellie.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hello, are you new here? If so, welcome to the group. However, If you have

been here for a while and read this groups posts lately, you would know that

your lab results being " in the normal range " doesn't mean much. Did you get a

copy of your lab results? If not, get them right away! Your symptoms seem

like you are just not taking enough armour. They are very typical hypoT. We love

helping people here, but can't if you don't tell us how much Armour you are

taking, what your lab results are now, what they were when you were diagnosed

etc.

In a message dated 9/13/07 6:42:17 AM, klaugh3383@... writes:

>

> Hi,

> I am a 24 yr old female. I was on synthroid when I started feeling

> the symptoms of hypothyroidism at age 22 and swtiched to armor thyroid

> last year. I feel like my condition has only gotten worse, but I just

> had lab work done again and everything is normal. I have always been

> a very active and lively person until lately. I am always tired and

> don't have much of an appetite. I use to eat like crazy and at 5'4

> was 110 pounds. Over the past couple of years, I have gained 25

> pounds and although I am still at a normal weight, it is very

> frustrating to be running for an hour every day, taking in less than

> 1000 calories, and still gaining weight and feeling tired all the

> time. I am very frustrated right now and seeing as my lab work turned

> out ok, does anyone know what else it could be? I know metabolisms

> slow down as you get older, but not this much. I also don't seem to

> be digesting my food very well. I will eat a big salad for lunch and

> still have that " just eaten " feeling 4 hours later. Any advice or

> input is appreciated, thanks!

>

>

>

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most docs do not know how to use Armour, so you are probly just undertreated.

how much Armour are you taking? you cannot treat to TSH test, you must go by

Frees and how you feel.

Gracia

Hi,

I am a 24 yr old female. I was on synthroid when I started feeling

the symptoms of hypothyroidism at age 22 and swtiched to armor thyroid

last year. I feel like my condition has only gotten worse, but I just

had lab work done again and everything is normal. I have always been

a very active and lively person until lately. I am always tired and

don't have much of an appetite. I use to eat like crazy and at 5'4

was 110 pounds. Over the past couple of years, I have gained 25

pounds and although I am still at a normal weight, it is very

frustrating to be running for an hour every day, taking in less than

1000 calories, and still gaining weight and feeling tired all the

time. I am very frustrated right now and seeing as my lab work turned

out ok, does anyone know what else it could be? I know metabolisms

slow down as you get older, but not this much. I also don't seem to

be digesting my food very well. I will eat a big salad for lunch and

still have that " just eaten " feeling 4 hours later. Any advice or

input is appreciated, thanks!

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Stop eating bread. Eat home made bread. I have done this and I feel a lot

better. Some breads are like glue in your intestines. Processed food is not

good. Food that have a high PH is not good. I also eat yellow tomatoes and not

the red ones. Cut down on meats and Eggs. Some cakes are not good just like the

bread. Some jellies and jams are not good. I test what I can eat. I just eat a

little and if it makes me feel sick I don't eat it. This works for me everyone

is different. Ask your doctor if it is good for you. D999

klaugh3383 <klaugh3383@...> wrote: Hi,

I am a 24 yr old female. I was on synthroid when I started feeling

the symptoms of hypothyroidism at age 22 and swtiched to armor thyroid

last year. I feel like my condition has only gotten worse, but I just

had lab work done again and everything is normal. I have always been

a very active and lively person until lately. I am always tired and

don't have much of an appetite. I use to eat like crazy and at 5'4

was 110 pounds. Over the past couple of years, I have gained 25

pounds and although I am still at a normal weight, it is very

frustrating to be running for an hour every day, taking in less than

1000 calories, and still gaining weight and feeling tired all the

time. I am very frustrated right now and seeing as my lab work turned

out ok, does anyone know what else it could be? I know metabolisms

slow down as you get older, but not this much. I also don't seem to

be digesting my food very well. I will eat a big salad for lunch and

still have that " just eaten " feeling 4 hours later. Any advice or

input is appreciated, thanks!

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You might try Dr. Tony Jimenez, MD 1-619-468-9209.

Leo

-------------------------

>

> Hello,

>

> I am searching much needed information and I am a bit frustrated as I search

all the old posts. (I have a brain tumor that I had addressed 20 ago and shrunk

to half its size with natural healing methods but recently it has began to

grow.) I am trying to implement all of Hulda 's protocols. I know I am

sulphur allergic and I had a lot of metal in my mouth, but now I have no metal

teeth or root canals. However by taking a photocopy of my photos and photocopy

of the photocopy over and over again, the light patterns on my face show two

obvious 'vampire like' traces of darkness which I am sure is infection regularly

draining from parasited dry pockets. I have not completed the dental cleanup.

Recently I wasted much time and money in Germany with a recommended dentist, Dr.

Kûbler, Waldshut, Germany, who was highly touted but did not do the Hulda

Cleanup at all. He called what he did " the Hulda Dental Cleanup

Perfectionned " but there was no syncrometer testing allowed, nor geiger muller

testing allowed, no gum cutting, no tattoo searching...he even used isopropyl

alchol and his office is very close to a major nuclear power plant - so much for

radiation free water. He even repaired a tooth the first visit, no testing for

radiation in fact, I am pretty sure he added radiation to my toxic

load...because he explained..well, " everything has some radiation " So I hope to

warn others not to waste your time, he simply does NOT do the Hulda

Cleanup even though he did do this work in the past. He seems pretty invested in

implants, and that means for the moment, a high probability of radiation.

>

> I have had low grade infections on my blood tests, that doctors could not find

the source, for over 20 years. I need to find a real Hulda dentist to help

me complete my dental cleanup.

>

> So, I am in good water area, but I need a filter that I can afford.

>

> I am wondering if people in this forum take into consideration the 2007 book

of Hulda , I seem to see many quotes from books before this book, which was

an eye opener on radiation.

>

> I recently moved from bad bleach water area to NSF bleach water region and now

I need to start making my own bread. I have not yet finished building my

syncrometer and I am not yet trained so I cannot test myself. I have paid many

syncrometer testers to get the double assurance of moving into a good water

area. Now I am looking for a good breadmachine, a good blender, which pans to

buy, here in Europe. I am in France close to Germany.

>

> I had so hoped that people would do what HC suggested in putting the results

of their syncrometer testing online. I can't find this. And I have so many

needs and very little resources as I have been disabled about 30 years so my

resources have been tapped by illness and now I need to be able to surmount this

new challenge.

>

> When I search on this site, I see a few entries from 2007 and 2008.

>

> In summary, I am just trying to get started with the basics as my tumor is

growing and I need to react quickly and I need support.

> H E L P !!!

>

> All constructive comments are profoundly appreciated.

> m

>

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> I recently moved from bad bleach water area to NSF bleach water region and now

I need to start making my own bread. I have not yet finished building my

syncrometer and I am not yet trained so I cannot test myself. I have paid many

syncrometer testers to get the double assurance of moving into a good water

area.

Hi,

Well done on all the efforts you are making.

I wonder if you could share the contact details of the syncrometer testers you

used.

Were the results reproducible with all the testers you used?

Thank you,

Dean

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Subject: Re: Frustrated...

Dr

Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 1:20 AM

 

You might try Dr. Tony Jimenez, MD 1-619-468-9209.

Leo

------------ --------- ----

>

> Hello,

>

> I am searching much needed information and I am a bit frustrated as I search

all the old posts. (I have a brain tumor that I had addressed 20 ago and shrunk

to half its size with natural healing methods but recently it has began to

grow.) I am trying to implement all of Hulda 's protocols. I know I am

sulphur allergic and I had a lot of metal in my mouth, but now I have no metal

teeth or root canals. However by taking a photocopy of my photos and photocopy

of the photocopy over and over again, the light patterns on my face show two

obvious 'vampire like' traces of darkness which I am sure is infection regularly

draining from parasited dry pockets. I have not completed the dental cleanup.

Recently I wasted much time and money in Germany with a recommended dentist, Dr.

Kûbler, Waldshut, Germany, who was highly touted but did not do the Hulda

Cleanup at all. He called what he did " the Hulda Dental Cleanup

Perfectionned " but there

was no syncrometer testing allowed, nor geiger muller testing allowed, no gum

cutting, no tattoo searching... he even used isopropyl alchol and his office is

very close to a major nuclear power plant - so much for radiation free water. He

even repaired a tooth the first visit, no testing for radiation in fact, I am

pretty sure he added radiation to my toxic load...because he explained..well,

" everything has some radiation " So I hope to warn others not to waste your time,

he simply does NOT do the Hulda Cleanup even though he did do this work in

the past. He seems pretty invested in implants, and that means for the moment, a

high probability of radiation.

>

> I have had low grade infections on my blood tests, that doctors could not find

the source, for over 20 years. I need to find a real Hulda dentist to help

me complete my dental cleanup.

>

> So, I am in good water area, but I need a filter that I can afford.

>

> I am wondering if people in this forum take into consideration the 2007 book

of Hulda , I seem to see many quotes from books before this book, which was

an eye opener on radiation.

>

> I recently moved from bad bleach water area to NSF bleach water region and now

I need to start making my own bread. I have not yet finished building my

syncrometer and I am not yet trained so I cannot test myself. I have paid many

syncrometer testers to get the double assurance of moving into a good water

area. Now I am looking for a good breadmachine, a good blender, which pans to

buy, here in Europe. I am in France close to Germany.

>

> I had so hoped that people would do what HC suggested in putting the results

of their syncrometer testing online. I can't find this. And I have so many

needs and very little resources as I have been disabled about 30 years so my

resources have been tapped by illness and now I need to be able to surmount this

new challenge.

>

> When I search on this site, I see a few entries from 2007 and 2008.

>

> In summary, I am just trying to get started with the basics as my tumor is

growing and I need to react quickly and I need support.

> H E L P !!!

>

> All constructive comments are profoundly appreciated.

> m

>

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Subject: Re: Frustrated...

Dr

Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 1:20 AM

 

You might try Dr. Tony Jimenez, MD 1-619-468-9209.

Leo

------------ --------- ----

>

> Hello,

>

> I am searching much needed information and I am a bit frustrated as I search

all the old posts. (I have a brain tumor that I had addressed 20 ago and shrunk

to half its size with natural healing methods but recently it has began to

grow.) I am trying to implement all of Hulda 's protocols. I know I am

sulphur allergic and I had a lot of metal in my mouth, but now I have no metal

teeth or root canals. However by taking a photocopy of my photos and photocopy

of the photocopy over and over again, the light patterns on my face show two

obvious 'vampire like' traces of darkness which I am sure is infection regularly

draining from parasited dry pockets. I have not completed the dental cleanup.

Recently I wasted much time and money in Germany with a recommended dentist, Dr.

Kûbler, Waldshut, Germany, who was highly touted but did not do the Hulda

Cleanup at all. He called what he did " the Hulda Dental Cleanup

Perfectionned " but there

was no syncrometer testing allowed, nor geiger muller testing allowed, no gum

cutting, no tattoo searching... he even used isopropyl alchol and his office is

very close to a major nuclear power plant - so much for radiation free water. He

even repaired a tooth the first visit, no testing for radiation in fact, I am

pretty sure he added radiation to my toxic load...because he explained..well,

" everything has some radiation " So I hope to warn others not to waste your time,

he simply does NOT do the Hulda Cleanup even though he did do this work in

the past. He seems pretty invested in implants, and that means for the moment, a

high probability of radiation.

>

> I have had low grade infections on my blood tests, that doctors could not find

the source, for over 20 years. I need to find a real Hulda dentist to help

me complete my dental cleanup.

>

> So, I am in good water area, but I need a filter that I can afford.

>

> I am wondering if people in this forum take into consideration the 2007 book

of Hulda , I seem to see many quotes from books before this book, which was

an eye opener on radiation.

>

> I recently moved from bad bleach water area to NSF bleach water region and now

I need to start making my own bread. I have not yet finished building my

syncrometer and I am not yet trained so I cannot test myself. I have paid many

syncrometer testers to get the double assurance of moving into a good water

area. Now I am looking for a good breadmachine, a good blender, which pans to

buy, here in Europe. I am in France close to Germany.

>

> I had so hoped that people would do what HC suggested in putting the results

of their syncrometer testing online. I can't find this. And I have so many

needs and very little resources as I have been disabled about 30 years so my

resources have been tapped by illness and now I need to be able to surmount this

new challenge.

>

> When I search on this site, I see a few entries from 2007 and 2008.

>

> In summary, I am just trying to get started with the basics as my tumor is

growing and I need to react quickly and I need support.

> H E L P !!!

>

> All constructive comments are profoundly appreciated.

> m

>

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Out of curiosity, have you tried fasting? Particularly strict water fasting.

I'd be interested to know. In my opinion, fasting is both the cheapest and most

effective way to survive any health issue. Most parasites seem to be

programmed to die when their host stops eating.

You might also consider Sir Winter's tea

(http://www.sirjasonwinters.com/). He beat his cancer with his formula.

Also, Essiac Tea is known as a cancer beater. The formula is well known - but

you can buy it pre-prepared at www.herbalcom.com (best herb prices on the web).

I have no real experience with these tea's, but am recommending it out of a

Survival book that I have a lot of faith in (the book also recommends Hulda

's treatments).

I'm no help with the syncrometer. I've never tried it though I am fascinated by

it and would like to see one in action someday.

Good luck with everything!

>

> Hello,

>

> I am searching much needed information and I am a bit frustrated as I search

all the old posts. (I have a brain tumor that I had addressed 20 ago and shrunk

to half its size with natural healing methods but recently it has began to

grow.) I am trying to implement all of Hulda 's protocols. I know I am

sulphur allergic and I had a lot of metal in my mouth, but now I have no metal

teeth or root canals. However by taking a photocopy of my photos and photocopy

of the photocopy over and over again, the light patterns on my face show two

obvious 'vampire like' traces of darkness which I am sure is infection regularly

draining from parasited dry pockets. I have not completed the dental cleanup.

Recently I wasted much time and money in Germany with a recommended dentist, Dr.

Kûbler, Waldshut, Germany, who was highly touted but did not do the Hulda

Cleanup at all. He called what he did " the Hulda Dental Cleanup

Perfectionned " but there was no syncrometer testing allowed, nor geiger muller

testing allowed, no gum cutting, no tattoo searching...he even used isopropyl

alchol and his office is very close to a major nuclear power plant - so much for

radiation free water. He even repaired a tooth the first visit, no testing for

radiation in fact, I am pretty sure he added radiation to my toxic

load...because he explained..well, " everything has some radiation " So I hope to

warn others not to waste your time, he simply does NOT do the Hulda

Cleanup even though he did do this work in the past. He seems pretty invested in

implants, and that means for the moment, a high probability of radiation.

>

> I have had low grade infections on my blood tests, that doctors could not find

the source, for over 20 years. I need to find a real Hulda dentist to help

me complete my dental cleanup.

>

> So, I am in good water area, but I need a filter that I can afford.

>

> I am wondering if people in this forum take into consideration the 2007 book

of Hulda , I seem to see many quotes from books before this book, which was

an eye opener on radiation.

>

> I recently moved from bad bleach water area to NSF bleach water region and now

I need to start making my own bread. I have not yet finished building my

syncrometer and I am not yet trained so I cannot test myself. I have paid many

syncrometer testers to get the double assurance of moving into a good water

area. Now I am looking for a good breadmachine, a good blender, which pans to

buy, here in Europe. I am in France close to Germany.

>

> I had so hoped that people would do what HC suggested in putting the results

of their syncrometer testing online. I can't find this. And I have so many

needs and very little resources as I have been disabled about 30 years so my

resources have been tapped by illness and now I need to be able to surmount this

new challenge.

>

> When I search on this site, I see a few entries from 2007 and 2008.

>

> In summary, I am just trying to get started with the basics as my tumor is

growing and I need to react quickly and I need support.

> H E L P !!!

>

> All constructive comments are profoundly appreciated.

> m

>

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you might try figs and the fig tea ive heard i helps srink tumors

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Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 1:20 AM

 

You might try Dr. Tony Jimenez, MD 1-619-468-9209.

Leo

------------ --------- ----

& gt;

& gt; Hello,

& gt;

& gt; I am searching much needed information and I am a bit frustrated

as I search all the old posts. (I have a brain tumor that I had

addressed 20 ago and shrunk to half its size with natural healing

methods but recently it has began to grow.) I am trying to implement

all of Hulda 's protocols. I know I am sulphur allergic and I had

a lot of metal in my mouth, but now I have no metal teeth or root

canals. However by taking a photocopy of my photos and photocopy of

the photocopy over and over again, the light patterns on my face show

two obvious 'vampire like' traces of darkness which I am sure is

infection regularly draining from parasited dry pockets. I have not

completed the dental cleanup. Recently I wasted much time and money in

Germany with a recommended dentist, Dr. Kûbler, Waldshut, Germany, who

was highly touted but did not do the Hulda Cleanup at all. He

called what he did " the Hulda Dental Cleanup Perfectionned " but

there

was no syncrometer testing allowed, nor geiger muller testing allowed,

no gum cutting, no tattoo searching... he even used isopropyl alchol

and his office is very close to a major nuclear power plant - so much

for radiation free water. He even repaired a tooth the first visit, no

testing for radiation in fact, I am pretty sure he added radiation to

my toxic load...because he explained..well, " everything has some

radiation " So I hope to warn others not to waste your time, he simply

does NOT do the Hulda Cleanup even though he did do this work in

the past. He seems pretty invested in implants, and that means for the

moment, a high probability of radiation.

& gt;

& gt; I have had low grade infections on my blood tests, that doctors

could not find the source, for over 20 years. I need to find a real

Hulda dentist to help me complete my dental cleanup.

& gt;

& gt; So, I am in good water area, but I need a filter that I can afford.

& gt;

& gt; I am wondering if people in this forum take into consideration the

2007 book of Hulda , I seem to see many quotes from books before

this book, which was an eye opener on radiation.

& gt;

& gt; I recently moved from bad bleach water area to NSF bleach water

region and now I need to start making my own bread. I have not yet

finished building my syncrometer and I am not yet trained so I cannot

test myself. I have paid many syncrometer testers to get the double

assurance of moving into a good water area. Now I am looking for a

good breadmachine, a good blender, which pans to buy, here in Europe.

I am in France close to Germany.

& gt;

& gt; I had so hoped that people would do what HC suggested in putting

the results of their syncrometer testing online. I can't find this.

And I have so many needs and very little resources as I have been

disabled about 30 years so my resources have been tapped by illness and

now I need to be able to surmount this new challenge.

& gt;

& gt; When I search on this site, I see a few entries from 2007 and

2008.

& gt;

& gt; In summary, I am just trying to get started with the basics as my

tumor is growing and I need to react quickly and I need support.

& gt; H E L P !!!

& gt;

& gt; All constructive comments are profoundly appreciated.

& gt; m

& gt;

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Hi there. Here's some information for you.

If interested, here is one of Dr 's best known Syncrometer testers.

_http://www.ctsoriginals.com/_ (http://www.ctsoriginals.com/)

here is the dentist that worked with Dr. in Mexico. He did the

surgical clean ups for her clients. Contact Dr. Solario with questions.

_www.drsolario.com_ (http://www.drsolario.com)

In our family, we've successfully used Hulda's " 21-day late stage cancer

cleanse " from " The Cure for ALL Advanced Cancers " , pg 179. This is for ALL

cancers, as Dr states. It is very detailed, but has worked for us

several times.

At the very least, get back on your parasite herbs and stay on them!.

(When dealing with illness, we stay on the maintenance dose, but twice weekly,

rather then once weekly.)

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/bodycleanses.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/bodycleanses.htm)

We also use a " rife machine " for cancer in our family. This is a

non-invasive, powerful kind of zapping. (different than Hulda's) We know 2

people

with brain tumors that have used rifing to eliminate them. (using no clark

products) You can zap your body, head, and tumors directly and safely.

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/royalrife.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/royalrife.htm)

If you already have a zapper (that you know is configured properly),

you may consider getting one of Arthur's Super Zappicators. This " body

plate " device allows your zapper signal to penetrate 8-10 inches into the

body. No zapper alone can do this! Zappers only zap your blood. That has

always been one drawback of the zapper. Now - you can zap your body's tissue,

organs, brain, and tumors. This device also makes it very easy to

complete a full " mouth zapping " without using the wands. This will help with

your

dental issues. And you can zap your food!

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/super-zapper.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/super-zapper.htm)

Magnets are another great way to heal. Specifically, the NEGATIVE (north)

side of a magnet offers freakish healing properties. Dr Phiplott has used

magnet to cure cancer for years. There are many benefits magnets provide.

Place the magnets directly on tumor areas, the liver, painful areas and

more. (Dr also uses magnets)

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/magnettherapy.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/magnettherapy.htm)

For water, if you are limited on funds, AT LEAST get an ozonator. This

options will give you not only CLEAN water, but you also get the benefit of

ozone therapy to help radically detox.

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/ozone.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/ozone.htm)

Consider VERY HIGH doses of Glutathione and B2. Dr. 's 21-day late

stage cleanse uses these to really attack and break apart tumors. As many

as 40 500mg caps in a day! (only for a very short time) Read all you can

about glutathione. _http://www.frequencyrising.com/glutathione.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/glutathione.htm)

To see all the products we use when dealing with cancer, see this page.

All of these product have their own value and work in different ways. The

more you can add to your protocol, the more synergy exists.

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/alternativecancertreatment.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/alternativecancertreatment.htm)

Hope this helps. Best wishes. Hang in there!

chad

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Hi there. Here's some information for you.

If interested, here is one of Dr 's best known Syncrometer testers.

_http://www.ctsoriginals.com/_ (http://www.ctsoriginals.com/)

here is the dentist that worked with Dr. in Mexico. He did the

surgical clean ups for her clients. Contact Dr. Solario with questions.

_www.drsolario.com_ (http://www.drsolario.com)

In our family, we've successfully used Hulda's " 21-day late stage cancer

cleanse " from " The Cure for ALL Advanced Cancers " , pg 179. This is for ALL

cancers, as Dr states. It is very detailed, but has worked for us

several times.

At the very least, get back on your parasite herbs and stay on them!.

(When dealing with illness, we stay on the maintenance dose, but twice weekly,

rather then once weekly.)

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/bodycleanses.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/bodycleanses.htm)

We also use a " rife machine " for cancer in our family. This is a

non-invasive, powerful kind of zapping. (different than Hulda's) We know 2

people

with brain tumors that have used rifing to eliminate them. (using no clark

products) You can zap your body, head, and tumors directly and safely.

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/royalrife.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/royalrife.htm)

If you already have a zapper (that you know is configured properly),

you may consider getting one of Arthur's Super Zappicators. This " body

plate " device allows your zapper signal to penetrate 8-10 inches into the

body. No zapper alone can do this! Zappers only zap your blood. That has

always been one drawback of the zapper. Now - you can zap your body's tissue,

organs, brain, and tumors. This device also makes it very easy to

complete a full " mouth zapping " without using the wands. This will help with

your

dental issues. And you can zap your food!

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/super-zapper.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/super-zapper.htm)

Magnets are another great way to heal. Specifically, the NEGATIVE (north)

side of a magnet offers freakish healing properties. Dr Phiplott has used

magnet to cure cancer for years. There are many benefits magnets provide.

Place the magnets directly on tumor areas, the liver, painful areas and

more. (Dr also uses magnets)

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/magnettherapy.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/magnettherapy.htm)

For water, if you are limited on funds, AT LEAST get an ozonator. This

options will give you not only CLEAN water, but you also get the benefit of

ozone therapy to help radically detox.

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/ozone.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/ozone.htm)

Consider VERY HIGH doses of Glutathione and B2. Dr. 's 21-day late

stage cleanse uses these to really attack and break apart tumors. As many

as 40 500mg caps in a day! (only for a very short time) Read all you can

about glutathione. _http://www.frequencyrising.com/glutathione.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/glutathione.htm)

To see all the products we use when dealing with cancer, see this page.

All of these product have their own value and work in different ways. The

more you can add to your protocol, the more synergy exists.

_http://www.frequencyrising.com/alternativecancertreatment.htm_

(http://www.frequencyrising.com/alternativecancertreatment.htm)

Hope this helps. Best wishes. Hang in there!

chad

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I have used CTS Orginals and Heike Siemes-Glatzel in Germany. (Thanks for your

interest.) For the most part I was testing water in different locations of

Alsace trying to find a place to move to.

I first tested Guebwiller water,it was the city where I lived for the last 2 and

a half years. I tested the water at a gas station - horrible results -

Polonium, Chlorox bleach, benzene, heavy metals.

So I quickly searched out a mountain fountain at a city called Lautenbach where

the fountain on the street named RUE DE LA PAIX was tested and it tested

perfectly. I used this water from December until now.

I just moved in March to Wattwiller. Here is the only water system in the area

that cleans the water by UV lights and does not add bleach in the standard

treatment.

I tested the water here in the Wattwiller fountain near the school/marie which

had heavy metals and NSF bleach - but nothing else. The heavy metals from the

old metal pipe maybe ?

Then the cemetary in Uffholtz (same water system) - which tested perfectly.

I also tested an apartment in an old building in Uffholtz which showed laundry

bleach, asbestos, heavy metals, wheel bearing grease.

I tested a new house in Uffholtz it showed NSF bleach and heavy metals.

I tested the house where I live right now temporarily and it had only NSF

bleach.

I spoke with the Maire (town hall) and the water experts of this community as to

why I was getting NSF bleach if they only used UV treatment. They explained

that clean the pipe system 2 to 4 times per year with NSF bleach and also they

adjust when they see nitrates coming in from the vineyards or other problems

like pesticides...anyway they monitor the water quite a bit here and the current

analysis is posted outside on the wall of the town hall.

It so happens that the daughter of the owner of this apartment is a water tester

for the city of Basel, Switzerland so we were also able to confirm by standard

laboratory tests that the water was decent here. I am still using fountain

water to cook, drink and bathe with but my clothes are washed in water that has

NSF bleach. We are looking for an apartment or little house where we can move.

I have heard that the Carbonit Alvita whole house filters block nsf bleach and

other impurities and can be used. This info came from a syncrometer tester. I

think the price is 550 euros or so.

The tests, whether CTS or Heike Siemes-Glatzel have been consistant and

corresponded to the buildings and places we tested. The cemetary has no

heater,softener, filter etc - and tested perfectly. A new house with a rock

filter on the intake of water and tested in the garage metal pipe faucet showed

nsf bleach and heavy metals. Not really too surprising. An old building dating

more than 500 years showed many terrible elements in the water. No I am

comfortable with CTS orginals and Heike Siemes-Glatzel's syncrometer testing.

Hope this answers your question. Thanks so very much for your interest.

M

>

>

> > I recently moved from bad bleach water area to NSF bleach water region and

now I need to start making my own bread. I have not yet finished building my

syncrometer and I am not yet trained so I cannot test myself. I have paid many

syncrometer testers to get the double assurance of moving into a good water

area.

>

> Hi,

> Well done on all the efforts you are making.

> I wonder if you could share the contact details of the syncrometer testers you

used.

> Were the results reproducible with all the testers you used?

> Thank you,

> Dean

>

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Thank you so much for the reference. I know about the Dr clark store. In fact,

it was this organisation that recommended Dr. Kubler as a dentist. That is one

reason why I wrote to warn everyone so that people don't waste their precious

time and money.

I need to know about which blender to buy, which breadmaker ? which metal pans

? which silverware ? or which plates ? Right now I am using everything le

Creuset that I can find and lexan plasticware but I need to cook and to eat and

it is very frustrating to not know and to be all alone with no one who even

understands what I am talking about. My husband is starting to read a little

bit of Hulda 's books but he cannot advise me or help me to advance...

I buy Kosher meat and I am using ceramic knives and Le Creuset cookware. I

ozone my vegetables, but I have not been able to find a sonicator - one gallon -

no touching the bottom - 5 min timer - no special fluids etc. If I buy a UV

wand, how do I know the distance and time frame to use without syncrometer

testing ?

I don't have a guide on how to clean and sanitize food. Dr gives some

directions but no one seems to have put it all together like a guide. Like

freeze your meat, but not your mik. Defrost and sonicate meat before eating.

ozone the milk. Do you understand what I am saying? We need guide that goes by

basic necessities like eating first. :)

Are halogen ovens good ?

For the dentist is Flexite still considered a good material. I have a metal

partial so I am basically not going outside much because of embarrassement, but

I need to keep metals out of my body and out of my head. So I need the basics

that touch my social life so I can continue to fonction and not a prisoner of my

sickness.

¨Please forgive me if I talk too much, I have been in isolation by this medical

situation. In France, it is considered a crime to not help someone in danger so

there is a bit of fear of people forcing me to use standard allopathic methods

here so I am not free to really talk about these things too openly.

Well, thanks so much for your efforts

Francine. I do very much appreciate it.

>

> >

>

> > Hello,

>

> >

>

> > I am searching much needed information and I am a bit frustrated as I search

all the old posts. (I have a brain tumor that I had addressed 20 ago and shrunk

to half its size with natural healing methods but recently it has began to

grow.) I am trying to implement all of Hulda 's protocols. I know I am

sulphur allergic and I had a lot of metal in my mouth, but now I have no metal

teeth or root canals. However by taking a photocopy of my photos and photocopy

of the photocopy over and over again, the light patterns on my face show two

obvious 'vampire like' traces of darkness which I am sure is infection regularly

draining from parasited dry pockets. I have not completed the dental cleanup.

Recently I wasted much time and money in Germany with a recommended dentist, Dr.

Kûbler, Waldshut, Germany, who was highly touted but did not do the Hulda

Cleanup at all. He called what he did " the Hulda Dental Cleanup

Perfectionned " but there

> was no syncrometer testing allowed, nor geiger muller testing allowed, no gum

cutting, no tattoo searching... he even used isopropyl alchol and his office is

very close to a major nuclear power plant - so much for radiation free water. He

even repaired a tooth the first visit, no testing for radiation in fact, I am

pretty sure he added radiation to my toxic load...because he explained..well,

" everything has some radiation " So I hope to warn others not to waste your time,

he simply does NOT do the Hulda Cleanup even though he did do this work in

the past. He seems pretty invested in implants, and that means for the moment, a

high probability of radiation.

>

> >

>

> > I have had low grade infections on my blood tests, that doctors could not

find the source, for over 20 years. I need to find a real Hulda dentist to

help me complete my dental cleanup.

>

> >

>

> > So, I am in good water area, but I need a filter that I can afford.

>

> >

>

> > I am wondering if people in this forum take into consideration the 2007 book

of Hulda , I seem to see many quotes from books before this book, which was

an eye opener on radiation.

>

> >

>

> > I recently moved from bad bleach water area to NSF bleach water region and

now I need to start making my own bread. I have not yet finished building my

syncrometer and I am not yet trained so I cannot test myself. I have paid many

syncrometer testers to get the double assurance of moving into a good water

area. Now I am looking for a good breadmachine, a good blender, which pans to

buy, here in Europe. I am in France close to Germany.

>

> >

>

> > I had so hoped that people would do what HC suggested in putting the results

of their syncrometer testing online. I can't find this. And I have so many

needs and very little resources as I have been disabled about 30 years so my

resources have been tapped by illness and now I need to be able to surmount this

new challenge.

>

> >

>

> > When I search on this site, I see a few entries from 2007 and 2008.

>

> >

>

> > In summary, I am just trying to get started with the basics as my tumor is

growing and I need to react quickly and I need support.

>

> > H E L P !!!

>

> >

>

> > All constructive comments are profoundly appreciated.

>

> > m

>

> >

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Thanks for your response. I have tried fasting. 20 years ago when I was danger

of death from this same tumor, all the doctors had given up on me and I read

Paavo Airola's books and juice fasted. Between his methods, Ann Wigmore

wheatgrass protocol, imagery, and trampolining with breathwork I shrunk this

tumor to about half it's size. I was no longer paralyzed, my 300 convulsions a

day stopped. My neck and my right arm started working again. and I progressed

with good chiropractic care from bedridden to a wheelchair, to a walker and then

to a cane. I still have my cane but I don't need it very much anymore -

occasional paralysis.

After that I fasted one week of every month and one day of every week. It was

great - but then I got married. And then it doesn't work like it used to. It

is hard to fast without your second half fasting. The odor of foods etc.

Besides - he is a good cook. So I stopped fasting. I just went and got my

champion juicer and my food press out. But I know that Hulda says to cook

your juices and many of the things I was using she forbids.

I have done strict water fasting in years past, but it is hard on me and hard on

my heart in particular. It is a bit severe for where I am right now. I would

do juice fasting before water fasting.

Fasting is cheap and takes away the environment necessary for the parasites, I

was really trying to stick with Hulda 's methods.

If all else fails - I will go back to my old stuff that worked before but it is

terribly time consuming and I find that the hydrochloric acid and lugols is

something I really want to incorporate. I want to learn zapping and plate

zapping. I have Bob beck protocol machines also. All these things make a big

difference. I would like to learn an easier way.

Thanks very much for your thoughts.

m

> >

> > Hello,

> >

> > I am searching much needed information and I am a bit frustrated as I search

all the old posts. (I have a brain tumor that I had addressed 20 ago and shrunk

to half its size with natural healing methods but recently it has began to

grow.) I am trying to implement all of Hulda 's protocols. I know I am

sulphur allergic and I had a lot of metal in my mouth, but now I have no metal

teeth or root canals. However by taking a photocopy of my photos and photocopy

of the photocopy over and over again, the light patterns on my face show two

obvious 'vampire like' traces of darkness which I am sure is infection regularly

draining from parasited dry pockets. I have not completed the dental cleanup.

Recently I wasted much time and money in Germany with a recommended dentist, Dr.

Kûbler, Waldshut, Germany, who was highly touted but did not do the Hulda

Cleanup at all. He called what he did " the Hulda Dental Cleanup

Perfectionned " but there was no syncrometer testing allowed, nor geiger muller

testing allowed, no gum cutting, no tattoo searching...he even used isopropyl

alchol and his office is very close to a major nuclear power plant - so much for

radiation free water. He even repaired a tooth the first visit, no testing for

radiation in fact, I am pretty sure he added radiation to my toxic

load...because he explained..well, " everything has some radiation " So I hope to

warn others not to waste your time, he simply does NOT do the Hulda

Cleanup even though he did do this work in the past. He seems pretty invested in

implants, and that means for the moment, a high probability of radiation.

> >

> > I have had low grade infections on my blood tests, that doctors could not

find the source, for over 20 years. I need to find a real Hulda dentist to

help me complete my dental cleanup.

> >

> > So, I am in good water area, but I need a filter that I can afford.

> >

> > I am wondering if people in this forum take into consideration the 2007 book

of Hulda , I seem to see many quotes from books before this book, which was

an eye opener on radiation.

> >

> > I recently moved from bad bleach water area to NSF bleach water region and

now I need to start making my own bread. I have not yet finished building my

syncrometer and I am not yet trained so I cannot test myself. I have paid many

syncrometer testers to get the double assurance of moving into a good water

area. Now I am looking for a good breadmachine, a good blender, which pans to

buy, here in Europe. I am in France close to Germany.

> >

> > I had so hoped that people would do what HC suggested in putting the results

of their syncrometer testing online. I can't find this. And I have so many

needs and very little resources as I have been disabled about 30 years so my

resources have been tapped by illness and now I need to be able to surmount this

new challenge.

> >

> > When I search on this site, I see a few entries from 2007 and 2008.

> >

> > In summary, I am just trying to get started with the basics as my tumor is

growing and I need to react quickly and I need support.

> > H E L P !!!

> >

> > All constructive comments are profoundly appreciated.

> > m

> >

>

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