Guest guest Posted February 20, 2011 Report Share Posted February 20, 2011 Dear Niki I don't know if there was a specific reason I warned you ...maybe it was a still small voice...as well as my own accidental episodes which I was reminded of by your hydrogen peroxide story. Some time ago I could have made a grave error, as I was attempting to get rid of a blood virus (hep c) and confused myself with lugals iodine and hydrogen peroxide. I didn't proceed with the peroxide but learned that hydrogen peroxide turns into another toxic gas in your system upon ingestion, and as you found out, can be deadly. It scared the pea wadden out of me that I could have easily poisoned myself. Then my mom thought she was helping herself by leaving the ozonator on full time...and I came over and luckily read up on its usage- perhaps just in time before it caused her permanent damage. I am so disappointed with the traditional medical profession and their lack of current research of cutting edge treatments. We who suffer for years without help or guidance are almost forced to " experiment " . My warning is simply to make doubly sure everyone gets 2 or 3 reliable sources of credible information before proceeding and don't take somebody's faulty memory the resource you use. With a quick search of " ozonator body bagging " a letter came up called " The power of ozone " which I learned a lot from. I don't know this doctor's credibility but it sounded good. ha. There are a number of interesting sites on the topic. I've already learned a lot. Again I wish the best of health for you. Cherylanne:~) Praying hope forward ________________________________ From: ilovegod6390 <NIKIHAUSE@...> Dr Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 11:27:00 AM Subject: Re: Psyllium or other friends-- Hi cherylanne-- I like your name too! Thanks for caring! I've been reading using and trying various oxygenating therapies for years now-- nearly died on hydrogen peroxide accidental overdose due to my bad math skills-- but cured three infections I caught abroad that six rounds of antibiotics did nothing for so it nearly saved my life! Did mms can't use it-- still use it everyday to clean my veggies. I have read through flood YOur body with oxygen and cannot understand how these people would put this in an IV at home by themselves! I'd love to hear why you are so thoughtfully warning me!! Blessings!!! > > Niki, > I am just a caring person (and I admit your I love God user name caught my > heart's attention). Obviously I don't know your knowledge about the ozonator, > but I just wanted to tell you to be careful because it is powerful stuff. I >have > > been out of the loop so to speak with the newest and most cutting edge uses of > equipment, and just because I haven't heard of " body bagging " doesn't mean it > isn't a valid and good treatment. Please just be sure to study well with all > your new and long term experiments. I wish you God's Perfect Peace and Health. > > > > Cherylanne:~) > > Paying hope forward > > > > > > ________________________________ > From: ilovegod6390 <NIKIHAUSE@...> > Dr > Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 5:47:55 AM > Subject: Psyllium or other friends-- > > > Got My ozonator > Airzone xt 301. > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or > 1/8liter per > Min. > But mine is so much more. > What can I do??? > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 Saul Pressman lives just down the road from us, in Langley, B.C. I think he is confused by your insufflation request, and thinks that you need a pure oxygen machine to produce pure ozone out. Dr. did NOT use insufflation, and found that the Portazone ozone machine worked just fine to ozonate the OUTSIDE of the body. Her testing did not show that the air pollutants Saul Pressman mentioned were a problem. In large part I believe that is because most of the pollutants (hydrocarbons and VOC's) are in fact destroyed by the ozone itself, even from a cheap machine that uses room air as the input. I believe that Saul knows this quite well. Saul sells machines that cost over $3000 as I recall. They are used for very different purposes, in IV and insufflation. Hope this helps! Arthur www.BestZapper.com www.ZapperStories.com On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:56 PM, ilovegod6390 wrote: > Hello Arthur- > Thanks for replying. > > I will tell you I consulted at this other group the last poster said--to ask Saul Pressman about using body bagging, rectal and ear insufflations--Because I cannot just go putting huge amounts of ozone into my body. > > It is not safe and can cause major damage! > > The protocols only suggest 1/8 Liter setting--my machine does not have a way to change the amount of ozone output. > > Yet two--or I thought there were two of you--- have repeatedly suggested to do so--I am not only confused, but slightly worried! I am not sure what you are suggesting is safe for my machine, and as a result-- I wonder if I was not as thorough about researching all this, that your advice could have seriously hurt someone. > > Again, I really do NOT know enough about most of this to know what is correct and what is not. But at this point, I am now getting two very different pieces of advice--from this group and this Saul Pressman. > > So because I do not want to HARM myself, I wrote to this other group--asking him the same questions I posted here a few days ago- > > Here is the reply I got-- > > You are trying to use an industrial air fed machine for medical purposes. > It can't be done. > > It is like going to the Indy 500 with a dump truck. > Not going to make it. > > You have to use oxygen as the feed gas, not air. Air is dirty and you do not > want to increase your problems by putting that into your body. > > If you want to do medical treatment, you need a medical generator. > > I THEN asked if I can use the ozonated water in an enema only and here is the reply I got to that-- > > No, you cannot use it for an ozonated water enema. > > It will be putting toxins in. > > You have to understand the problem: > > AIR IS DIRTY > > It has hydrocarbons and volatile organic compounds, and particulate matter, etc. > > You cannot use an airfed machine for medical purposes, or > you are putting all that dirt in the air into your body. > > So, you need an oxygen fed generator, which puts you in the $2000 category. > > You get what you pay for. > > Of course, with this logic, I then asked why ozonated water then would be at all safe to drink, with his line of questioning-- > > And here is that response-- > > Well, it isn't actually, but since it will be going right into stomach acid, > that will hopefully take care of any toxins. I wouldn't recommend it, but > it is less dangerous than other methods due to that acid 'barrier'. > > So now I am way more confused then I was to start, because this other so called " Doctor/expert " is implying that drinking water is dangerous --which in a way, damages the credibility of his opinions. > > I would like very much to hear your thoughts on this. > > Thank you very much for your time and consideration! > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > Min. > > > But mine is so much more. > > > What can I do??? > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2011 Report Share Posted February 21, 2011 I bought a Portazone ozonator but was warned not to do insufflations with it by the people at Dr. store. It is only for external use. - I don't think drinking the water is exactly external though. - I wonder if you should drink just a little of it? I don't know if it's good for funneling? I have a lump on my shoulder that I have tried to funnel. I don't know if it's doing any good. Did Dr. ever say anything about ozone injections? Recently, a retired holistic dentist told me her husband had a lymphoma on his shoulder and she eliminated it by injecting with ozone. I'd love to try that but am wondering what the risks are. Tammy --- Original Message ----- From: Arthur Doerksen Dr Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 3:31 PM Subject: Re: Re: Psyllium or other friends-- Saul Pressman lives just down the road from us, in Langley, B.C. I think he is confused by your insufflation request, and thinks that you need a pure oxygen machine to produce pure ozone out. Dr. did NOT use insufflation, and found that the Portazone ozone machine worked just fine to ozonate the OUTSIDE of the body. Her testing did not show that the air pollutants Saul Pressman mentioned were a problem. In large part I believe that is because most of the pollutants (hydrocarbons and VOC's) are in fact destroyed by the ozone itself, even from a cheap machine that uses room air as the input. I believe that Saul knows this quite well. Saul sells machines that cost over $3000 as I recall. They are used for very different purposes, in IV and insufflation. Hope this helps! Arthur www.BestZapper.com www.ZapperStories.com On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:56 PM, ilovegod6390 wrote: > Hello Arthur- > Thanks for replying. > > I will tell you I consulted at this other group the last poster said--to ask Saul Pressman about using body bagging, rectal and ear insufflations--Because I cannot just go putting huge amounts of ozone into my body. > > It is not safe and can cause major damage! > > The protocols only suggest 1/8 Liter setting--my machine does not have a way to change the amount of ozone output. > > Yet two--or I thought there were two of you--- have repeatedly suggested to do so--I am not only confused, but slightly worried! I am not sure what you are suggesting is safe for my machine, and as a result-- I wonder if I was not as thorough about researching all this, that your advice could have seriously hurt someone. > > Again, I really do NOT know enough about most of this to know what is correct and what is not. But at this point, I am now getting two very different pieces of advice--from this group and this Saul Pressman. > > So because I do not want to HARM myself, I wrote to this other group--asking him the same questions I posted here a few days ago- > > Here is the reply I got-- > > You are trying to use an industrial air fed machine for medical purposes. > It can't be done. > > It is like going to the Indy 500 with a dump truck. > Not going to make it. > > You have to use oxygen as the feed gas, not air. Air is dirty and you do not > want to increase your problems by putting that into your body. > > If you want to do medical treatment, you need a medical generator. > > I THEN asked if I can use the ozonated water in an enema only and here is the reply I got to that-- > > No, you cannot use it for an ozonated water enema. > > It will be putting toxins in. > > You have to understand the problem: > > AIR IS DIRTY > > It has hydrocarbons and volatile organic compounds, and particulate matter, etc. > > You cannot use an airfed machine for medical purposes, or > you are putting all that dirt in the air into your body. > > So, you need an oxygen fed generator, which puts you in the $2000 category. > > You get what you pay for. > > Of course, with this logic, I then asked why ozonated water then would be at all safe to drink, with his line of questioning-- > > And here is that response-- > > Well, it isn't actually, but since it will be going right into stomach acid, > that will hopefully take care of any toxins. I wouldn't recommend it, but > it is less dangerous than other methods due to that acid 'barrier'. > > So now I am way more confused then I was to start, because this other so called " Doctor/expert " is implying that drinking water is dangerous --which in a way, damages the credibility of his opinions. > > I would like very much to hear your thoughts on this. > > Thank you very much for your time and consideration! > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > Min. > > > But mine is so much more. > > > What can I do??? > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I have found a good link and spoken to someone who is quite knowledgeable about ozone modalities. check this link out www.ozonatedoilonline.com best wishes mike Re: Psyllium or other friends-- Hello Arthur- Thanks for replying. I will tell you I consulted at this other group the last poster said--to ask Saul Pressman about using body bagging, rectal and ear insufflations--Because I cannot just go putting huge amounts of ozone into my body. It is not safe and can cause major damage! The protocols only suggest 1/8 Liter setting--my machine does not have a way to change the amount of ozone output. Yet two--or I thought there were two of you--- have repeatedly suggested to do so--I am not only confused, but slightly worried! I am not sure what you are suggesting is safe for my machine, and as a result-- I wonder if I was not as thorough about researching all this, that your advice could have seriously hurt someone. Again, I really do NOT know enough about most of this to know what is correct and what is not. But at this point, I am now getting two very different pieces of advice--from this group and this Saul Pressman. So because I do not want to HARM myself, I wrote to this other group--asking him the same questions I posted here a few days ago- Here is the reply I got-- You are trying to use an industrial air fed machine for medical purposes. It can't be done. It is like going to the Indy 500 with a dump truck. Not going to make it. You have to use oxygen as the feed gas, not air. Air is dirty and you do not want to increase your problems by putting that into your body. If you want to do medical treatment, you need a medical generator. I THEN asked if I can use the ozonated water in an enema only and here is the reply I got to that-- No, you cannot use it for an ozonated water enema. It will be putting toxins in. You have to understand the problem: AIR IS DIRTY It has hydrocarbons and volatile organic compounds, and particulate matter, etc. You cannot use an airfed machine for medical purposes, or you are putting all that dirt in the air into your body. So, you need an oxygen fed generator, which puts you in the $2000 category. You get what you pay for. Of course, with this logic, I then asked why ozonated water then would be at all safe to drink, with his line of questioning-- And here is that response-- Well, it isn't actually, but since it will be going right into stomach acid, that will hopefully take care of any toxins. I wouldn't recommend it, but it is less dangerous than other methods due to that acid 'barrier'. So now I am way more confused then I was to start, because this other so called " Doctor/expert " is implying that drinking water is dangerous --which in a way, damages the credibility of his opinions. I would like very much to hear your thoughts on this. Thank you very much for your time and consideration! > > > Got My ozonator > > Airzone xt 301. > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > Min. > > But mine is so much more. > > What can I do??? > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2011 Report Share Posted February 24, 2011 I like to take my oxygenius ozonator and put it in my bath tub bubble it in the water for 10 minutes and then soak in the tub for 20 minutes, gentle and soooooooo relaxing . Re: Re: Psyllium or other friends-- Saul Pressman lives just down the road from us, in Langley, B.C. I think he is confused by your insufflation request, and thinks that you need a pure oxygen machine to produce pure ozone out. Dr. did NOT use insufflation, and found that the Portazone ozone machine worked just fine to ozonate the OUTSIDE of the body. Her testing did not show that the air pollutants Saul Pressman mentioned were a problem. In large part I believe that is because most of the pollutants (hydrocarbons and VOC's) are in fact destroyed by the ozone itself, even from a cheap machine that uses room air as the input. I believe that Saul knows this quite well. Saul sells machines that cost over $3000 as I recall. They are used for very different purposes, in IV and insufflation. Hope this helps! Arthur www.BestZapper.com www.ZapperStories.com On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:56 PM, ilovegod6390 wrote: > Hello Arthur- > Thanks for replying. > > I will tell you I consulted at this other group the last poster said--to ask Saul Pressman about using body bagging, rectal and ear insufflations--Because I cannot just go putting huge amounts of ozone into my body. > > It is not safe and can cause major damage! > > The protocols only suggest 1/8 Liter setting--my machine does not have a way to change the amount of ozone output. > > Yet two--or I thought there were two of you--- have repeatedly suggested to do so--I am not only confused, but slightly worried! I am not sure what you are suggesting is safe for my machine, and as a result-- I wonder if I was not as thorough about researching all this, that your advice could have seriously hurt someone. > > Again, I really do NOT know enough about most of this to know what is correct and what is not. But at this point, I am now getting two very different pieces of advice--from this group and this Saul Pressman. > > So because I do not want to HARM myself, I wrote to this other group--asking him the same questions I posted here a few days ago- > > Here is the reply I got-- > > You are trying to use an industrial air fed machine for medical purposes. > It can't be done. > > It is like going to the Indy 500 with a dump truck. > Not going to make it. > > You have to use oxygen as the feed gas, not air. Air is dirty and you do not > want to increase your problems by putting that into your body. > > If you want to do medical treatment, you need a medical generator. > > I THEN asked if I can use the ozonated water in an enema only and here is the reply I got to that-- > > No, you cannot use it for an ozonated water enema. > > It will be putting toxins in. > > You have to understand the problem: > > AIR IS DIRTY > > It has hydrocarbons and volatile organic compounds, and particulate matter, etc. > > You cannot use an airfed machine for medical purposes, or > you are putting all that dirt in the air into your body. > > So, you need an oxygen fed generator, which puts you in the $2000 category. > > You get what you pay for. > > Of course, with this logic, I then asked why ozonated water then would be at all safe to drink, with his line of questioning-- > > And here is that response-- > > Well, it isn't actually, but since it will be going right into stomach acid, > that will hopefully take care of any toxins. I wouldn't recommend it, but > it is less dangerous than other methods due to that acid 'barrier'. > > So now I am way more confused then I was to start, because this other so called " Doctor/expert " is implying that drinking water is dangerous --which in a way, damages the credibility of his opinions. > > I would like very much to hear your thoughts on this. > > Thank you very much for your time and consideration! > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > Min. > > > But mine is so much more. > > > What can I do??? > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 Hi mike I was reading that it really is not safe to inhale like that and that it should not be used with the hot vapors-- Cuz you should not inhale it like that unless you have a well ventilated room. I wonder now if I have been discouraged from using my ozonator in a way that will help me. Also Arthur- I checked out that dr ozonator-- mine seems to be a 300 mg output-- I wonder if it is possible to use it in the bath like mike is doing? On 25 feb 2011, at 05:51, Mike <them4@...> wrote: > I like to take my oxygenius ozonator and put it in my bath tub bubble it in the water for 10 minutes and then soak in the tub for 20 minutes, gentle and soooooooo relaxing . > > Re: Re: Psyllium or other friends-- > > Saul Pressman lives just down the road from us, in Langley, B.C. I think he is confused by your insufflation request, and thinks that you need a pure oxygen machine to produce pure ozone out. Dr. did NOT use insufflation, and found that the Portazone ozone machine worked just fine to ozonate the OUTSIDE of the body. > > Her testing did not show that the air pollutants Saul Pressman mentioned were a problem. In large part I believe that is because most of the pollutants (hydrocarbons and VOC's) are in fact destroyed by the ozone itself, even from a cheap machine that uses room air as the input. I believe that Saul knows this quite well. > > Saul sells machines that cost over $3000 as I recall. They are used for very different purposes, in IV and insufflation. > > Hope this helps! > > Arthur > www.BestZapper.com > www.ZapperStories.com > > On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:56 PM, ilovegod6390 wrote: > > > Hello Arthur- > > Thanks for replying. > > > > I will tell you I consulted at this other group the last poster said--to ask Saul Pressman about using body bagging, rectal and ear insufflations--Because I cannot just go putting huge amounts of ozone into my body. > > > > It is not safe and can cause major damage! > > > > The protocols only suggest 1/8 Liter setting--my machine does not have a way to change the amount of ozone output. > > > > Yet two--or I thought there were two of you--- have repeatedly suggested to do so--I am not only confused, but slightly worried! I am not sure what you are suggesting is safe for my machine, and as a result-- I wonder if I was not as thorough about researching all this, that your advice could have seriously hurt someone. > > > > Again, I really do NOT know enough about most of this to know what is correct and what is not. But at this point, I am now getting two very different pieces of advice--from this group and this Saul Pressman. > > > > So because I do not want to HARM myself, I wrote to this other group--asking him the same questions I posted here a few days ago- > > > > Here is the reply I got-- > > > > You are trying to use an industrial air fed machine for medical purposes. > > It can't be done. > > > > It is like going to the Indy 500 with a dump truck. > > Not going to make it. > > > > You have to use oxygen as the feed gas, not air. Air is dirty and you do not > > want to increase your problems by putting that into your body. > > > > If you want to do medical treatment, you need a medical generator. > > > > I THEN asked if I can use the ozonated water in an enema only and here is the reply I got to that-- > > > > No, you cannot use it for an ozonated water enema. > > > > It will be putting toxins in. > > > > You have to understand the problem: > > > > AIR IS DIRTY > > > > It has hydrocarbons and volatile organic compounds, and particulate matter, etc. > > > > You cannot use an airfed machine for medical purposes, or > > you are putting all that dirt in the air into your body. > > > > So, you need an oxygen fed generator, which puts you in the $2000 category. > > > > You get what you pay for. > > > > Of course, with this logic, I then asked why ozonated water then would be at all safe to drink, with his line of questioning-- > > > > And here is that response-- > > > > Well, it isn't actually, but since it will be going right into stomach acid, > > that will hopefully take care of any toxins. I wouldn't recommend it, but > > it is less dangerous than other methods due to that acid 'barrier'. > > > > So now I am way more confused then I was to start, because this other so called " Doctor/expert " is implying that drinking water is dangerous --which in a way, damages the credibility of his opinions. > > > > I would like very much to hear your thoughts on this. > > > > Thank you very much for your time and consideration! > > > > > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > > Min. > > > > But mine is so much more. > > > > What can I do??? > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2011 Report Share Posted February 26, 2011 So I found this good site that distinguishes whAt to do at home and what needs medical supervision. I think it's really helpful. Saul pressman told me not to do an enema with the ozone water and this list says that is ok-- So I wonder if you all have done that at home? Just ozonated some water and out it in an enema? How dangerous is that do you think? http://www.peripheralneuropathytreatments.com/neuropathy-ozone.htm On 26 feb 2011, at 22:13, " ilovegod6390 " <NIKIHAUSE@...> wrote: > Tammy after reading all I've read I would not try anything like what you described without finding more about it-- > Saul at the ozone group is a good source- it seems like these medical things require a medical generator and cannot be done with basic machines like the prozonator and others. > > > > > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > > > Min. > > > > > But mine is so much more. > > > > > What can I do??? > > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 For the twitching, have you tried magnesium? Orally Magnesium+ Calm is good - and magnesium chloride (magnesium oil) rubbed on your skin - and you can also get magnesium for the tub as magnesium chloride flakes or Epsom salts. - works well for me. Instead of breathing in ozone in the bathtub, you can also use food-grade hydrogen peroxide in the water. Tammy Re: Psyllium or other friends-- Hey guys! OK! So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in the bathtub 10 minutes-- Then got in Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but SOOO GOOD. I did it again today-- It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease! I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes while in the tub-- I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to it-- Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE BATHTUB. Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done it`? I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!! If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs etc. THANKS! > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > > Min. > > > > But mine is so much more. > > > > What can I do??? > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2011 Report Share Posted February 27, 2011 Hi is it tammy? Do you have the book ' Flood your Body with Oxygen? Visit www.oxygenamerica.com and read up if you don't also i'd recommend getting Edmcabes DVD's I enjoy watching them very informative, if your interested in learning more about ozone, I love learning about it.... I just put my ozone diffuser in the tub for ten minutes prior to going in the tub then remove it, but i have seen links to people and they actually sit in hot tubs ect.... with ozone bubbling in it, look on Youtube for ozone bathtubs, they even make machines that bubble while your in the tub with ozone, I have heard if your doing that to use a fan to blow the ozone smell away from you if it bothers you, but i have heard that because when the ozone makes contact with water it is already converted back to oxygen before it comes to the atmosphere... call this guy on the phone paul at www.ozonatedoilonline.com and talk to him and ask him to tell you about his experience with ozone.... he has some good info... best wishes to you lots of research material out there to learn about you can always call me anytime, i'm not an expert, i just enjoy learning about this... best wishes. Mike Re: Psyllium or other friends-- Hey guys! OK! So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in the bathtub 10 minutes-- Then got in Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but SOOO GOOD. I did it again today-- It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease! I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes while in the tub-- I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to it-- Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE BATHTUB. Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done it`? I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!! If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs etc. THANKS! > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > > Min. > > > > But mine is so much more. > > > > What can I do??? > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Hi mike-- Yes I do have that book! It's a great book! But the things im asking are not in that book! A lot of the information are for those with medical grade ozonators. And we, or at least I, determined that it's not a good idea to use a regular ozonator for water to do " medical " things like insufflations, etc. That's why I was asking about he bath- It does seem like it can be a helpful treatment! Yes I actually almost bought some olive oil from that man you mentioned from ozonatedoil-- but went with a machine instead--he was very nice and very helpful. I'd feel awkward emailing him with questions about a machine I did not buy from him! Ya know? Thanks a lot! On 28 feb 2011, at 03:01, Mike <them4@...> wrote: > Hi is it tammy? > > Do you have the book > ' Flood your Body with Oxygen? Visit www.oxygenamerica.com and read up if you don't > also i'd recommend getting Edmcabes DVD's I enjoy watching them very informative, if your interested in learning more about ozone, I love learning about it.... > > I just put my ozone diffuser in the tub for ten minutes prior to going in the tub then remove it, but i have seen links to people and they actually sit in hot tubs ect.... with ozone bubbling in it, look on Youtube for ozone bathtubs, they even make machines that bubble while your in the tub with ozone, I have heard if your doing that to use a fan to blow the ozone smell away from you if it bothers you, but i have heard that because when the ozone makes contact with water it is already converted back to oxygen before it comes to the atmosphere... > > call this guy on the phone paul at www.ozonatedoilonline.com and talk to him and ask him to tell you about his experience with ozone.... he has some good info... > > best wishes to you > > lots of research material out there to learn about > you can always call me anytime, i'm not an expert, i just enjoy learning about this... > > best wishes. > > Mike > > Re: Psyllium or other friends-- > > Hey guys! > > OK! > So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in the bathtub 10 minutes-- > Then got in > > Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but > SOOO GOOD. > I did it again today-- > > It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease! > I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes while in the tub-- > > I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to it-- > > Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE BATHTUB. > Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done it`? > > I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!! > If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs etc. > THANKS! > > > > > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > > > Min. > > > > > But mine is so much more. > > > > > What can I do??? > > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Yes, I should have prefaced it by saying I have tried all that... and I am on a program to supplement all the things that are lacking... I should probably put some more Mag oil on again.. It does help me sleep... On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Tammy Alfred <realty21plus@...> wrote: > > > For the twitching, have you tried magnesium? Orally Magnesium+ Calm is good > - and magnesium chloride (magnesium oil) rubbed > on your skin - and you can also get magnesium for the tub as magnesium > chloride flakes or Epsom salts. - works well for me. > > Instead of breathing in ozone in the bathtub, you can also use food-grade > hydrogen peroxide in the water. > > Tammy > > > Re: Psyllium or other friends-- > > Hey guys! > > OK! > So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in > the bathtub 10 minutes-- > Then got in > > Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at > the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my > legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few > minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but > SOOO GOOD. > I did it again today-- > > It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease! > I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 > minutes while in the tub-- > > I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to > it-- > > Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE > BATHTUB. > Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done > it`? > > I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!! > If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching > has been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even > after MRIs etc. > THANKS! > > > > > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do > 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > > > Min. > > > > > But mine is so much more. > > > > > What can I do??? > > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 HI Niki, I see yes medical ozone generators from what i have learned you need to be using the right concentrations and be knowledgeable about how much to use. I know from ED's video he mentioned he puts a probe up his anal cavity and injects ozone into his colon while he is brushing his teeth aparently he likes it,i'm wary of the fear tactics used out there by many to disuade people from using a good thing. I believe ozone med grade use properly is the best thing out there....Others may disagree..I like to test things out myself. I have taken my daughter to a clinic and she had some autohemotherapy done and it was very helpful, but also very pricy so we could not continue the therapy due to cost...I would love to learn how to do this properly myself, it doesn't look that hard, the hardest part is the cost factor for all the equipment and training. I don't see why that fellow would hold it against you, just email him with your question, what's the worst that could happen, i'm sure he would love to help you you can facebook him, he won't bite you, hehe. Re: Psyllium or other friends-- > > Hey guys! > > OK! > So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in the bathtub 10 minutes-- > Then got in > > Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but > SOOO GOOD. > I did it again today-- > > It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease! > I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes while in the tub-- > > I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to it-- > > Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE BATHTUB. > Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done it`? > > I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!! > If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs etc. > THANKS! > > > > > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > > > Min. > > > > > But mine is so much more. > > > > > What can I do??? > > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 Oh I wish I had a medical generator right now! And a sauna! I want a sauna at home! I only have a water ozonator-- But I agree it's wayyy expensive and we should be able to do Our own at home! What was wrong with your daughter who needed the autohemotherapy? I think I have parasites and im just hoping this ozone water will get rid of it all---! Keep me updated! On 28 feb 2011, at 18:39, Mike <them4@...> wrote: > HI Niki, > > I see yes medical ozone generators from what i have learned you need to be using the right concentrations and be knowledgeable about how much to use. I know from ED's video he mentioned he puts a probe up his anal cavity and injects ozone into his colon while he is brushing his teeth aparently he likes it,i'm wary of the fear tactics used out there by many to disuade people from using a good thing. I believe ozone med grade use properly is the best thing out there....Others may disagree..I like to test things out myself. I have taken my daughter to a clinic and she had some autohemotherapy done and it was very helpful, but also very pricy so we could not continue the therapy due to cost...I would love to learn how to do this properly myself, it doesn't look that hard, the hardest part is the cost factor for all the equipment and training. > I don't see why that fellow would hold it against you, just email him with your question, what's the worst that could happen, i'm sure he would love to help you you can facebook him, he won't bite you, hehe. > > Re: Psyllium or other friends-- > > > > Hey guys! > > > > OK! > > So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in the bathtub 10 minutes-- > > Then got in > > > > Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but > > SOOO GOOD. > > I did it again today-- > > > > It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease! > > I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes while in the tub-- > > > > I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to it-- > > > > Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE BATHTUB. > > Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done it`? > > > > I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!! > > If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs etc. > > THANKS! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > > > > Min. > > > > > > But mine is so much more. > > > > > > What can I do??? > > > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2011 Report Share Posted February 28, 2011 My daughter had some really bad acne that was causing scarring and I believe something pathogenic was attacking her. a number of issues, toxic,parasites, hormones ect Lord only knows, so in our desperation we have tried like everything lots of these things help and i'm sure if you could afford it would cure you of the issues......cleaning your blood out is a good thing, I believe most people if you live on this planet can benefit from cleaning your blood out ....Stay clean. Dr.clarks parasite cleanse is very good for those nasty critters as well have you ever used or do you have a zapper? i got a really good zapper from a place called precisionherbs.com the harmonic quad parasite zapper... I don't think we can lean on one thing only, we need balance in a broad spectrum of things.....just my thoughts... hope you get rid of those nasty critters let me know how it goes best wishes mike Re: Psyllium or other friends-- > > > > Hey guys! > > > > OK! > > So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in the bathtub 10 minutes-- > > Then got in > > > > Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but > > SOOO GOOD. > > I did it again today-- > > > > It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease! > > I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes while in the tub-- > > > > I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to it-- > > > > Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE BATHTUB. > > Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done it`? > > > > I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!! > > If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs etc. > > THANKS! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or 1/8liter per > > > > > > Min. > > > > > > But mine is so much more. > > > > > > What can I do??? > > > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2011 Report Share Posted March 1, 2011 Why don't you try MMS go to you tube and enter Jim Humble MMS then go to camelot and watch it. it is 118 min long.. It only took me 3 years of having it and not trying it because there are too many things claimed that it helps so I didn't beleive it BUT It WORKS!!!!!!! Who knows. ________________________________ From: ilovegod6390 <NIKIHAUSE@...> Dr Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 3:29:37 PM Subject: Re: Psyllium or other friends--  Hey guys! OK! So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in the bathtub 10 minutes-- Then got in Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but SOOO GOOD. I did it again today-- It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease! I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes while in the tub-- I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to it-- Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE BATHTUB. Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done it`? I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!! If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs etc. THANKS! > > > > > > > Got My ozonator > > > > Airzone xt 301. > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it-- > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere- > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min > > > > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit? > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or >1/8liter per > > > > Min. > > > > But mine is so much more. > > > > What can I do??? > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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