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Dear Niki

I don't know if there was a specific reason I warned you ...maybe it was a still

small voice...as well as my own accidental episodes which I was reminded of by

your hydrogen peroxide story. Some time ago I could have made a grave error, as

I was attempting to get rid of a blood virus (hep c) and confused myself with

lugals iodine and hydrogen peroxide. I didn't proceed with the peroxide but

learned that hydrogen peroxide turns into another toxic gas in your system upon

ingestion, and as you found out, can be deadly. It scared the pea wadden out of

me that I could have easily poisoned myself. Then my mom thought she was helping

herself by leaving the ozonator on full time...and I came over and luckily read

up on its usage- perhaps just in time before it caused her permanent damage.

I am so disappointed with the traditional medical profession and their lack of

current research of cutting edge treatments. We who suffer for years without

help or guidance are almost forced to " experiment " . My warning is simply to make

doubly sure everyone gets 2 or 3 reliable sources of credible information before

proceeding and don't take somebody's faulty memory the resource you use.

With a quick search of " ozonator body bagging " a letter came up called " The

power of ozone " which I learned a lot from. I don't know this doctor's

credibility but it sounded good. ha. There are a number of interesting sites on

the topic. I've already learned a lot. Again I wish the best of health for you.

Cherylanne:~)

Praying hope forward

________________________________

From: ilovegod6390 <NIKIHAUSE@...>

Dr

Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 11:27:00 AM

Subject: Re: Psyllium or other friends--

Hi cherylanne-- I like your name too! :)

Thanks for caring! I've been reading using and trying various oxygenating

therapies for years now-- nearly died on hydrogen peroxide accidental overdose

due to my bad math skills-- but cured three infections I caught abroad that six

rounds of antibiotics did nothing for so it nearly saved my life! Did mms can't

use it-- still use it everyday to clean my veggies.

I have read through flood YOur body with oxygen and cannot understand how these

people would put this in an IV at home by themselves!

I'd love to hear why you are so thoughtfully warning me!!

Blessings!!!

>

> Niki,

> I am just a caring person (and I admit your I love God user name caught my

> heart's attention). Obviously I don't know your knowledge about the ozonator,

> but I just wanted to tell you to be careful because it is powerful stuff. I

>have

>

> been out of the loop so to speak with the newest and most cutting edge uses of

> equipment, and just because I haven't heard of " body bagging " doesn't mean it

> isn't a valid and good treatment. Please just be sure to study well with all

> your new and long term experiments. I wish you God's Perfect Peace and Health.

>

>

>

> Cherylanne:~)

>

> Paying hope forward

>

>

>

>

>

> ________________________________

> From: ilovegod6390 <NIKIHAUSE@...>

> Dr

> Sent: Sun, February 20, 2011 5:47:55 AM

> Subject: Psyllium or other friends--

>

>

> Got My ozonator

> Airzone xt 301.

> In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

>

> 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or

> 1/8liter per

> Min.

> But mine is so much more.

> What can I do???

> Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

>

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Saul Pressman lives just down the road from us, in Langley, B.C. I think he is

confused by your insufflation request, and thinks that you need a pure oxygen

machine to produce pure ozone out. Dr. did NOT use insufflation, and found

that the Portazone ozone machine worked just fine to ozonate the OUTSIDE of the

body.

Her testing did not show that the air pollutants Saul Pressman mentioned were a

problem. In large part I believe that is because most of the pollutants

(hydrocarbons and VOC's) are in fact destroyed by the ozone itself, even from a

cheap machine that uses room air as the input. I believe that Saul knows this

quite well.

Saul sells machines that cost over $3000 as I recall. They are used for very

different purposes, in IV and insufflation.

Hope this helps!

Arthur

www.BestZapper.com

www.ZapperStories.com

On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:56 PM, ilovegod6390 wrote:

> Hello Arthur-

> Thanks for replying.

>

> I will tell you I consulted at this other group the last poster said--to ask

Saul Pressman about using body bagging, rectal and ear insufflations--Because I

cannot just go putting huge amounts of ozone into my body.

>

> It is not safe and can cause major damage!

>

> The protocols only suggest 1/8 Liter setting--my machine does not have a way

to change the amount of ozone output.

>

> Yet two--or I thought there were two of you--- have repeatedly suggested to do

so--I am not only confused, but slightly worried! I am not sure what you are

suggesting is safe for my machine, and as a result-- I wonder if I was not as

thorough about researching all this, that your advice could have seriously hurt

someone.

>

> Again, I really do NOT know enough about most of this to know what is correct

and what is not. But at this point, I am now getting two very different pieces

of advice--from this group and this Saul Pressman.

>

> So because I do not want to HARM myself, I wrote to this other group--asking

him the same questions I posted here a few days ago-

>

> Here is the reply I got--

>

> You are trying to use an industrial air fed machine for medical purposes.

> It can't be done.

>

> It is like going to the Indy 500 with a dump truck.

> Not going to make it.

>

> You have to use oxygen as the feed gas, not air. Air is dirty and you do not

> want to increase your problems by putting that into your body.

>

> If you want to do medical treatment, you need a medical generator.

>

> I THEN asked if I can use the ozonated water in an enema only and here is the

reply I got to that--

>

> No, you cannot use it for an ozonated water enema.

>

> It will be putting toxins in.

>

> You have to understand the problem:

>

> AIR IS DIRTY

>

> It has hydrocarbons and volatile organic compounds, and particulate matter,

etc.

>

> You cannot use an airfed machine for medical purposes, or

> you are putting all that dirt in the air into your body.

>

> So, you need an oxygen fed generator, which puts you in the $2000 category.

>

> You get what you pay for.

>

> Of course, with this logic, I then asked why ozonated water then would be at

all safe to drink, with his line of questioning--

>

> And here is that response--

>

> Well, it isn't actually, but since it will be going right into stomach acid,

> that will hopefully take care of any toxins. I wouldn't recommend it, but

> it is less dangerous than other methods due to that acid 'barrier'.

>

> So now I am way more confused then I was to start, because this other so

called " Doctor/expert " is implying that drinking water is dangerous --which in a

way, damages the credibility of his opinions.

>

> I would like very much to hear your thoughts on this.

>

> Thank you very much for your time and consideration!

>

>

> >

> > > Got My ozonator

> > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > >

> > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or

1/8liter per

> > > Min.

> > > But mine is so much more.

> > > What can I do???

> > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I bought a Portazone ozonator but was warned not to do insufflations with it by

the people at Dr. store.

It is only for external use. - I don't think drinking the water is exactly

external though. - I wonder if you should drink just a little of it?

I don't know if it's good for funneling?

I have a lump on my shoulder that I have tried to funnel.

I don't know if it's doing any good.

Did Dr. ever say anything about ozone injections?

Recently, a retired holistic dentist told me her husband had a lymphoma on his

shoulder and she eliminated it by

injecting with ozone. I'd love to try that but am wondering what the risks are.

Tammy

--- Original Message -----

From: Arthur Doerksen

Dr

Sent: Monday, February 21, 2011 3:31 PM

Subject: Re: Re: Psyllium or other friends--

Saul Pressman lives just down the road from us, in Langley, B.C. I think he is

confused by your insufflation request, and thinks that you need a pure oxygen

machine to produce pure ozone out. Dr. did NOT use insufflation, and found

that the Portazone ozone machine worked just fine to ozonate the OUTSIDE of the

body.

Her testing did not show that the air pollutants Saul Pressman mentioned were a

problem. In large part I believe that is because most of the pollutants

(hydrocarbons and VOC's) are in fact destroyed by the ozone itself, even from a

cheap machine that uses room air as the input. I believe that Saul knows this

quite well.

Saul sells machines that cost over $3000 as I recall. They are used for very

different purposes, in IV and insufflation.

Hope this helps!

Arthur

www.BestZapper.com

www.ZapperStories.com

On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:56 PM, ilovegod6390 wrote:

> Hello Arthur-

> Thanks for replying.

>

> I will tell you I consulted at this other group the last poster said--to ask

Saul Pressman about using body bagging, rectal and ear insufflations--Because I

cannot just go putting huge amounts of ozone into my body.

>

> It is not safe and can cause major damage!

>

> The protocols only suggest 1/8 Liter setting--my machine does not have a way

to change the amount of ozone output.

>

> Yet two--or I thought there were two of you--- have repeatedly suggested to do

so--I am not only confused, but slightly worried! I am not sure what you are

suggesting is safe for my machine, and as a result-- I wonder if I was not as

thorough about researching all this, that your advice could have seriously hurt

someone.

>

> Again, I really do NOT know enough about most of this to know what is correct

and what is not. But at this point, I am now getting two very different pieces

of advice--from this group and this Saul Pressman.

>

> So because I do not want to HARM myself, I wrote to this other group--asking

him the same questions I posted here a few days ago-

>

> Here is the reply I got--

>

> You are trying to use an industrial air fed machine for medical purposes.

> It can't be done.

>

> It is like going to the Indy 500 with a dump truck.

> Not going to make it.

>

> You have to use oxygen as the feed gas, not air. Air is dirty and you do not

> want to increase your problems by putting that into your body.

>

> If you want to do medical treatment, you need a medical generator.

>

> I THEN asked if I can use the ozonated water in an enema only and here is the

reply I got to that--

>

> No, you cannot use it for an ozonated water enema.

>

> It will be putting toxins in.

>

> You have to understand the problem:

>

> AIR IS DIRTY

>

> It has hydrocarbons and volatile organic compounds, and particulate matter,

etc.

>

> You cannot use an airfed machine for medical purposes, or

> you are putting all that dirt in the air into your body.

>

> So, you need an oxygen fed generator, which puts you in the $2000 category.

>

> You get what you pay for.

>

> Of course, with this logic, I then asked why ozonated water then would be at

all safe to drink, with his line of questioning--

>

> And here is that response--

>

> Well, it isn't actually, but since it will be going right into stomach acid,

> that will hopefully take care of any toxins. I wouldn't recommend it, but

> it is less dangerous than other methods due to that acid 'barrier'.

>

> So now I am way more confused then I was to start, because this other so

called " Doctor/expert " is implying that drinking water is dangerous --which in a

way, damages the credibility of his opinions.

>

> I would like very much to hear your thoughts on this.

>

> Thank you very much for your time and consideration!

>

>

> >

> > > Got My ozonator

> > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > >

> > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or

1/8liter per

> > > Min.

> > > But mine is so much more.

> > > What can I do???

> > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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I have found a good link and spoken to someone who is quite knowledgeable about

ozone modalities.

check this link out www.ozonatedoilonline.com

best wishes

mike

Re: Psyllium or other friends--

Hello Arthur-

Thanks for replying.

I will tell you I consulted at this other group the last poster said--to ask

Saul Pressman about using body bagging, rectal and ear insufflations--Because I

cannot just go putting huge amounts of ozone into my body.

It is not safe and can cause major damage!

The protocols only suggest 1/8 Liter setting--my machine does not have a way

to change the amount of ozone output.

Yet two--or I thought there were two of you--- have repeatedly suggested to do

so--I am not only confused, but slightly worried! I am not sure what you are

suggesting is safe for my machine, and as a result-- I wonder if I was not as

thorough about researching all this, that your advice could have seriously hurt

someone.

Again, I really do NOT know enough about most of this to know what is correct

and what is not. But at this point, I am now getting two very different pieces

of advice--from this group and this Saul Pressman.

So because I do not want to HARM myself, I wrote to this other group--asking

him the same questions I posted here a few days ago-

Here is the reply I got--

You are trying to use an industrial air fed machine for medical purposes.

It can't be done.

It is like going to the Indy 500 with a dump truck.

Not going to make it.

You have to use oxygen as the feed gas, not air. Air is dirty and you do not

want to increase your problems by putting that into your body.

If you want to do medical treatment, you need a medical generator.

I THEN asked if I can use the ozonated water in an enema only and here is the

reply I got to that--

No, you cannot use it for an ozonated water enema.

It will be putting toxins in.

You have to understand the problem:

AIR IS DIRTY

It has hydrocarbons and volatile organic compounds, and particulate matter,

etc.

You cannot use an airfed machine for medical purposes, or

you are putting all that dirt in the air into your body.

So, you need an oxygen fed generator, which puts you in the $2000 category.

You get what you pay for.

Of course, with this logic, I then asked why ozonated water then would be at

all safe to drink, with his line of questioning--

And here is that response--

Well, it isn't actually, but since it will be going right into stomach acid,

that will hopefully take care of any toxins. I wouldn't recommend it, but

it is less dangerous than other methods due to that acid 'barrier'.

So now I am way more confused then I was to start, because this other so

called " Doctor/expert " is implying that drinking water is dangerous --which in a

way, damages the credibility of his opinions.

I would like very much to hear your thoughts on this.

Thank you very much for your time and consideration!

>

> > Got My ozonator

> > Airzone xt 301.

> > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> >

> > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg or

1/8liter per

> > Min.

> > But mine is so much more.

> > What can I do???

> > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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I like to take my oxygenius ozonator and put it in my bath tub bubble it in the

water for 10 minutes and then soak in the tub for 20 minutes, gentle and

soooooooo relaxing .

Re: Re: Psyllium or other friends--

Saul Pressman lives just down the road from us, in Langley, B.C. I think he is

confused by your insufflation request, and thinks that you need a pure oxygen

machine to produce pure ozone out. Dr. did NOT use insufflation, and found

that the Portazone ozone machine worked just fine to ozonate the OUTSIDE of the

body.

Her testing did not show that the air pollutants Saul Pressman mentioned were

a problem. In large part I believe that is because most of the pollutants

(hydrocarbons and VOC's) are in fact destroyed by the ozone itself, even from a

cheap machine that uses room air as the input. I believe that Saul knows this

quite well.

Saul sells machines that cost over $3000 as I recall. They are used for very

different purposes, in IV and insufflation.

Hope this helps!

Arthur

www.BestZapper.com

www.ZapperStories.com

On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:56 PM, ilovegod6390 wrote:

> Hello Arthur-

> Thanks for replying.

>

> I will tell you I consulted at this other group the last poster said--to ask

Saul Pressman about using body bagging, rectal and ear insufflations--Because I

cannot just go putting huge amounts of ozone into my body.

>

> It is not safe and can cause major damage!

>

> The protocols only suggest 1/8 Liter setting--my machine does not have a way

to change the amount of ozone output.

>

> Yet two--or I thought there were two of you--- have repeatedly suggested to

do so--I am not only confused, but slightly worried! I am not sure what you are

suggesting is safe for my machine, and as a result-- I wonder if I was not as

thorough about researching all this, that your advice could have seriously hurt

someone.

>

> Again, I really do NOT know enough about most of this to know what is

correct and what is not. But at this point, I am now getting two very different

pieces of advice--from this group and this Saul Pressman.

>

> So because I do not want to HARM myself, I wrote to this other group--asking

him the same questions I posted here a few days ago-

>

> Here is the reply I got--

>

> You are trying to use an industrial air fed machine for medical purposes.

> It can't be done.

>

> It is like going to the Indy 500 with a dump truck.

> Not going to make it.

>

> You have to use oxygen as the feed gas, not air. Air is dirty and you do not

> want to increase your problems by putting that into your body.

>

> If you want to do medical treatment, you need a medical generator.

>

> I THEN asked if I can use the ozonated water in an enema only and here is

the reply I got to that--

>

> No, you cannot use it for an ozonated water enema.

>

> It will be putting toxins in.

>

> You have to understand the problem:

>

> AIR IS DIRTY

>

> It has hydrocarbons and volatile organic compounds, and particulate matter,

etc.

>

> You cannot use an airfed machine for medical purposes, or

> you are putting all that dirt in the air into your body.

>

> So, you need an oxygen fed generator, which puts you in the $2000 category.

>

> You get what you pay for.

>

> Of course, with this logic, I then asked why ozonated water then would be at

all safe to drink, with his line of questioning--

>

> And here is that response--

>

> Well, it isn't actually, but since it will be going right into stomach acid,

> that will hopefully take care of any toxins. I wouldn't recommend it, but

> it is less dangerous than other methods due to that acid 'barrier'.

>

> So now I am way more confused then I was to start, because this other so

called " Doctor/expert " is implying that drinking water is dangerous --which in a

way, damages the credibility of his opinions.

>

> I would like very much to hear your thoughts on this.

>

> Thank you very much for your time and consideration!

>

>

> >

> > > Got My ozonator

> > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > >

> > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg

or 1/8liter per

> > > Min.

> > > But mine is so much more.

> > > What can I do???

> > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hi mike

I was reading that it really is not safe to inhale like that and that it should

not be used with the hot vapors--

Cuz you should not inhale it like that unless you have a well ventilated room.

I wonder now if I have been discouraged from using my ozonator in a way that

will help me.

Also

Arthur- I checked out that dr ozonator-- mine seems to be a 300 mg

output--

I wonder if it is possible to use it in the bath like mike is doing?

On 25 feb 2011, at 05:51, Mike <them4@...> wrote:

> I like to take my oxygenius ozonator and put it in my bath tub bubble it in

the water for 10 minutes and then soak in the tub for 20 minutes, gentle and

soooooooo relaxing .

>

> Re: Re: Psyllium or other friends--

>

> Saul Pressman lives just down the road from us, in Langley, B.C. I think he is

confused by your insufflation request, and thinks that you need a pure oxygen

machine to produce pure ozone out. Dr. did NOT use insufflation, and found

that the Portazone ozone machine worked just fine to ozonate the OUTSIDE of the

body.

>

> Her testing did not show that the air pollutants Saul Pressman mentioned were

a problem. In large part I believe that is because most of the pollutants

(hydrocarbons and VOC's) are in fact destroyed by the ozone itself, even from a

cheap machine that uses room air as the input. I believe that Saul knows this

quite well.

>

> Saul sells machines that cost over $3000 as I recall. They are used for very

different purposes, in IV and insufflation.

>

> Hope this helps!

>

> Arthur

> www.BestZapper.com

> www.ZapperStories.com

>

> On Feb 21, 2011, at 1:56 PM, ilovegod6390 wrote:

>

> > Hello Arthur-

> > Thanks for replying.

> >

> > I will tell you I consulted at this other group the last poster said--to ask

Saul Pressman about using body bagging, rectal and ear insufflations--Because I

cannot just go putting huge amounts of ozone into my body.

> >

> > It is not safe and can cause major damage!

> >

> > The protocols only suggest 1/8 Liter setting--my machine does not have a way

to change the amount of ozone output.

> >

> > Yet two--or I thought there were two of you--- have repeatedly suggested to

do so--I am not only confused, but slightly worried! I am not sure what you are

suggesting is safe for my machine, and as a result-- I wonder if I was not as

thorough about researching all this, that your advice could have seriously hurt

someone.

> >

> > Again, I really do NOT know enough about most of this to know what is

correct and what is not. But at this point, I am now getting two very different

pieces of advice--from this group and this Saul Pressman.

> >

> > So because I do not want to HARM myself, I wrote to this other group--asking

him the same questions I posted here a few days ago-

> >

> > Here is the reply I got--

> >

> > You are trying to use an industrial air fed machine for medical purposes.

> > It can't be done.

> >

> > It is like going to the Indy 500 with a dump truck.

> > Not going to make it.

> >

> > You have to use oxygen as the feed gas, not air. Air is dirty and you do not

> > want to increase your problems by putting that into your body.

> >

> > If you want to do medical treatment, you need a medical generator.

> >

> > I THEN asked if I can use the ozonated water in an enema only and here is

the reply I got to that--

> >

> > No, you cannot use it for an ozonated water enema.

> >

> > It will be putting toxins in.

> >

> > You have to understand the problem:

> >

> > AIR IS DIRTY

> >

> > It has hydrocarbons and volatile organic compounds, and particulate matter,

etc.

> >

> > You cannot use an airfed machine for medical purposes, or

> > you are putting all that dirt in the air into your body.

> >

> > So, you need an oxygen fed generator, which puts you in the $2000 category.

> >

> > You get what you pay for.

> >

> > Of course, with this logic, I then asked why ozonated water then would be at

all safe to drink, with his line of questioning--

> >

> > And here is that response--

> >

> > Well, it isn't actually, but since it will be going right into stomach acid,

> > that will hopefully take care of any toxins. I wouldn't recommend it, but

> > it is less dangerous than other methods due to that acid 'barrier'.

> >

> > So now I am way more confused then I was to start, because this other so

called " Doctor/expert " is implying that drinking water is dangerous --which in a

way, damages the credibility of his opinions.

> >

> > I would like very much to hear your thoughts on this.

> >

> > Thank you very much for your time and consideration!

> >

> >

> > >

> > > > Got My ozonator

> > > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > > >

> > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg

or 1/8liter per

> > > > Min.

> > > > But mine is so much more.

> > > > What can I do???

> > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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So I found this good site that distinguishes whAt to do at home and what needs

medical supervision.

I think it's really helpful.

Saul pressman told me not to do an enema with the ozone water and this list says

that is ok--

So I wonder if you all have done that at home? Just ozonated some water and out

it in an enema? How dangerous is that do you think?

http://www.peripheralneuropathytreatments.com/neuropathy-ozone.htm

On 26 feb 2011, at 22:13, " ilovegod6390 " <NIKIHAUSE@...> wrote:

> Tammy after reading all I've read I would not try anything like what you

described without finding more about it--

> Saul at the ozone group is a good source- it seems like these medical things

require a medical generator and cannot be done with basic machines like the

prozonator and others.

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Got My ozonator

> > > > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg

or 1/8liter per

> > > > > Min.

> > > > > But mine is so much more.

> > > > > What can I do???

> > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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For the twitching, have you tried magnesium? Orally Magnesium+ Calm is good -

and magnesium chloride (magnesium oil) rubbed

on your skin - and you can also get magnesium for the tub as magnesium chloride

flakes or Epsom salts. - works well for me.

Instead of breathing in ozone in the bathtub, you can also use food-grade

hydrogen peroxide in the water.

Tammy

Re: Psyllium or other friends--

Hey guys!

OK!

So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in the

bathtub 10 minutes--

Then got in

Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at the

base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my legs

and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few minutes--

some suggest it could be tapeworms, but

SOOO GOOD.

I did it again today--

It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease!

I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes

while in the tub--

I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to it--

Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE BATHTUB.

Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done it`?

I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!!

If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has

been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs

etc.

THANKS!

> > >

> > > > Got My ozonator

> > > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > > >

> > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg

or 1/8liter per

> > > > Min.

> > > > But mine is so much more.

> > > > What can I do???

> > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi is it tammy?

Do you have the book

' Flood your Body with Oxygen? Visit www.oxygenamerica.com and read up if you

don't

also i'd recommend getting Edmcabes DVD's I enjoy watching them very

informative, if your interested in learning more about ozone, I love learning

about it....

I just put my ozone diffuser in the tub for ten minutes prior to going in the

tub then remove it, but i have seen links to people and they actually sit in hot

tubs ect.... with ozone bubbling in it, look on Youtube for ozone bathtubs, they

even make machines that bubble while your in the tub with ozone, I have heard if

your doing that to use a fan to blow the ozone smell away from you if it bothers

you, but i have heard that because when the ozone makes contact with water it is

already converted back to oxygen before it comes to the atmosphere...

call this guy on the phone paul at www.ozonatedoilonline.com and talk to him and

ask him to tell you about his experience with ozone.... he has some good info...

best wishes to you

lots of research material out there to learn about

you can always call me anytime, i'm not an expert, i just enjoy learning about

this...

best wishes.

Mike

Re: Psyllium or other friends--

Hey guys!

OK!

So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in the

bathtub 10 minutes--

Then got in

Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at the

base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my legs

and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few minutes--

some suggest it could be tapeworms, but

SOOO GOOD.

I did it again today--

It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease!

I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes

while in the tub--

I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to

it--

Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE BATHTUB.

Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done it`?

I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!!

If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has

been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs

etc.

THANKS!

> > >

> > > > Got My ozonator

> > > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > > >

> > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg

or 1/8liter per

> > > > Min.

> > > > But mine is so much more.

> > > > What can I do???

> > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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Hi mike--

Yes I do have that book! It's a great book! But the things im asking are not in

that book! A lot of the information are for those with medical grade ozonators.

And we, or at least I, determined that it's not a good idea to use a regular

ozonator for water to do " medical " things like insufflations, etc.

That's why I was asking about he bath-

It does seem like it can be a helpful treatment!

Yes I actually almost bought some olive oil from that man you mentioned from

ozonatedoil-- but went with a machine instead--he was very nice and very

helpful.

I'd feel awkward emailing him with questions about a machine I did not buy from

him!

Ya know?

Thanks a lot!

On 28 feb 2011, at 03:01, Mike <them4@...> wrote:

> Hi is it tammy?

>

> Do you have the book

> ' Flood your Body with Oxygen? Visit www.oxygenamerica.com and read up if you

don't

> also i'd recommend getting Edmcabes DVD's I enjoy watching them very

informative, if your interested in learning more about ozone, I love learning

about it....

>

> I just put my ozone diffuser in the tub for ten minutes prior to going in the

tub then remove it, but i have seen links to people and they actually sit in hot

tubs ect.... with ozone bubbling in it, look on Youtube for ozone bathtubs, they

even make machines that bubble while your in the tub with ozone, I have heard if

your doing that to use a fan to blow the ozone smell away from you if it bothers

you, but i have heard that because when the ozone makes contact with water it is

already converted back to oxygen before it comes to the atmosphere...

>

> call this guy on the phone paul at www.ozonatedoilonline.com and talk to him

and ask him to tell you about his experience with ozone.... he has some good

info...

>

> best wishes to you

>

> lots of research material out there to learn about

> you can always call me anytime, i'm not an expert, i just enjoy learning about

this...

>

> best wishes.

>

> Mike

>

> Re: Psyllium or other friends--

>

> Hey guys!

>

> OK!

> So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in the

bathtub 10 minutes--

> Then got in

>

> Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at the

base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my legs

and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few minutes--

some suggest it could be tapeworms, but

> SOOO GOOD.

> I did it again today--

>

> It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease!

> I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes

while in the tub--

>

> I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to

it--

>

> Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE BATHTUB.

> Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done it`?

>

> I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!!

> If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has

been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs

etc.

> THANKS!

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Got My ozonator

> > > > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg

or 1/8liter per

> > > > > Min.

> > > > > But mine is so much more.

> > > > > What can I do???

> > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Yes, I should have prefaced it by saying I have tried all that...

and I am on a program to supplement all the things that are lacking...

I should probably put some more Mag oil on again..

It does help me sleep...

On Mon, Feb 28, 2011 at 1:24 AM, Tammy Alfred <realty21plus@...> wrote:

>

>

> For the twitching, have you tried magnesium? Orally Magnesium+ Calm is good

> - and magnesium chloride (magnesium oil) rubbed

> on your skin - and you can also get magnesium for the tub as magnesium

> chloride flakes or Epsom salts. - works well for me.

>

> Instead of breathing in ozone in the bathtub, you can also use food-grade

> hydrogen peroxide in the water.

>

> Tammy

>

>

> Re: Psyllium or other friends--

>

> Hey guys!

>

> OK!

> So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in

> the bathtub 10 minutes--

> Then got in

>

> Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at

> the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my

> legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few

> minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but

> SOOO GOOD.

> I did it again today--

>

> It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease!

> I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2

> minutes while in the tub--

>

> I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to

> it--

>

> Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE

> BATHTUB.

> Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done

> it`?

>

> I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!!

> If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching

> has been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even

> after MRIs etc.

> THANKS!

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Got My ozonator

> > > > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do

> 125mg or 1/8liter per

> > > > > Min.

> > > > > But mine is so much more.

> > > > > What can I do???

> > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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HI Niki,

I see yes medical ozone generators from what i have learned you need to be using

the right concentrations and be knowledgeable about how much to use. I know from

ED's video he mentioned he puts a probe up his anal cavity and injects ozone

into his colon while he is brushing his teeth aparently he likes it,i'm wary of

the fear tactics used out there by many to disuade people from using a good

thing. I believe ozone med grade use properly is the best thing out

there....Others may disagree..I like to test things out myself. I have taken my

daughter to a clinic and she had some autohemotherapy done and it was very

helpful, but also very pricy so we could not continue the therapy due to

cost...I would love to learn how to do this properly myself, it doesn't look

that hard, the hardest part is the cost factor for all the equipment and

training.

I don't see why that fellow would hold it against you, just email him with your

question, what's the worst that could happen, i'm sure he would love to help you

you can facebook him, he won't bite you, hehe.

Re: Psyllium or other friends--

>

> Hey guys!

>

> OK!

> So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in

the bathtub 10 minutes--

> Then got in

>

> Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at

the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my

legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few

minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but

> SOOO GOOD.

> I did it again today--

>

> It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease!

> I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes

while in the tub--

>

> I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to

it--

>

> Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE

BATHTUB.

> Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done

it`?

>

> I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!!

> If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has

been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs

etc.

> THANKS!

>

>

> > > >

> > > > > Got My ozonator

> > > > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > > > >

> > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do

125mg or 1/8liter per

> > > > > Min.

> > > > > But mine is so much more.

> > > > > What can I do???

> > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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Oh I wish I had a medical generator right now!

And a sauna!

I want a sauna at home!

I only have a water ozonator--

But I agree it's wayyy expensive and we should be able to do

Our own at home!

What was wrong with your daughter who needed the autohemotherapy?

I think I have parasites and im just hoping this ozone water will get rid of it

all---!

Keep me updated!

On 28 feb 2011, at 18:39, Mike <them4@...> wrote:

> HI Niki,

>

> I see yes medical ozone generators from what i have learned you need to be

using the right concentrations and be knowledgeable about how much to use. I

know from ED's video he mentioned he puts a probe up his anal cavity and injects

ozone into his colon while he is brushing his teeth aparently he likes it,i'm

wary of the fear tactics used out there by many to disuade people from using a

good thing. I believe ozone med grade use properly is the best thing out

there....Others may disagree..I like to test things out myself. I have taken my

daughter to a clinic and she had some autohemotherapy done and it was very

helpful, but also very pricy so we could not continue the therapy due to

cost...I would love to learn how to do this properly myself, it doesn't look

that hard, the hardest part is the cost factor for all the equipment and

training.

> I don't see why that fellow would hold it against you, just email him with

your question, what's the worst that could happen, i'm sure he would love to

help you you can facebook him, he won't bite you, hehe.

>

> Re: Psyllium or other friends--

> >

> > Hey guys!

> >

> > OK!

> > So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in

the bathtub 10 minutes--

> > Then got in

> >

> > Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at

the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my

legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few

minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but

> > SOOO GOOD.

> > I did it again today--

> >

> > It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease!

> > I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes

while in the tub--

> >

> > I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to

it--

> >

> > Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE

BATHTUB.

> > Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done

it`?

> >

> > I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!!

> > If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has

been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs

etc.

> > THANKS!

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Got My ozonator

> > > > > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do

125mg or 1/8liter per

> > > > > > Min.

> > > > > > But mine is so much more.

> > > > > > What can I do???

> > > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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My daughter had some really bad acne that was causing scarring and I believe

something pathogenic was attacking her. a number of issues, toxic,parasites,

hormones ect Lord only knows, so in our desperation we have tried like

everything lots of these things help and i'm sure if you could afford it would

cure you of the issues......cleaning your blood out is a good thing, I believe

most people if you live on this planet can benefit from cleaning your blood out

....Stay clean.

Dr.clarks parasite cleanse is very good for those nasty critters as well have

you ever used or do you have a zapper? i got a really good zapper from a place

called precisionherbs.com the harmonic quad parasite zapper...

I don't think we can lean on one thing only, we need balance in a broad spectrum

of things.....just my thoughts...

hope you get rid of those nasty critters

let me know how it goes

best wishes

mike

Re: Psyllium or other friends--

> >

> > Hey guys!

> >

> > OK!

> > So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in

the bathtub 10 minutes--

> > Then got in

> >

> > Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at

the base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my

legs and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few

minutes-- some suggest it could be tapeworms, but

> > SOOO GOOD.

> > I did it again today--

> >

> > It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease!

> > I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2

minutes while in the tub--

> >

> > I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to

it--

> >

> > Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE

BATHTUB.

> > Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done

it`?

> >

> > I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!!

> > If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching

has been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after

MRIs etc.

> > THANKS!

> >

> >

> > > > >

> > > > > > Got My ozonator

> > > > > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > > > > >

> > > > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do

125mg or 1/8liter per

> > > > > > Min.

> > > > > > But mine is so much more.

> > > > > > What can I do???

> > > > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

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Why don't you try MMS  go to you tube and enter Jim Humble MMS then go to

camelot and watch it.  it is 118 min long.. It only took me 3 years of having

it

and not trying it  because there are too many things claimed that it helps so I

didn't beleive it BUT  It WORKS!!!!!!! Who knows. 

________________________________

From: ilovegod6390 <NIKIHAUSE@...>

Dr

Sent: Sun, February 27, 2011 3:29:37 PM

Subject: Re: Psyllium or other friends--

 

Hey guys!

OK!

So last night I opened the window wide in my bathroom and set my ozone in the

bathtub 10 minutes--

Then got in

Now, I know it says NOT to, but I could not resist placing the areator at the

base of my spine---I have undiagnosed twitching that happens all down my legs

and in my spine, and I just could not resist keeping it there a few minutes--

some suggest it could be tapeworms, but

SOOO GOOD.

I did it again today--

It made an increase initially in the body twitching, then a decrease!

I let the aerator sit at the base of my spine---probably only like 2 minutes

while in the tub--

I would have let it sit longer but breathing it in I am a bit sensitive to it--

Anyway, I have read you should NOT let ozone run while you are IN THE BATHTUB.

Mike, since you have tried this bath, do you know why not? Have you done it`?

I will keep doing it for SURE because today I feel a lot less twitching!!

If THIS takes it away, I will go THROUGH THE ROOF because this twitching has

been going 3 years and there is still no reason found for it...even after MRIs

etc.

THANKS!

> > >

> > > > Got My ozonator

> > > > Airzone xt 301.

> > > > In a last post we determined it can be used for body

> > > > Bagging. I just bought a tyvek suit to use it--

> > > > I have 2 questions I can find answers to anywhere-

> > > > First my machines puts out 2.5 L/min

> > > >

> > > > 1. how Long do I let this ozone go into my suit?

> > > > 2. Also is it possible to do rectal insufflations? It says to do 125mg

or

>1/8liter per

> > > > Min.

> > > > But mine is so much more.

> > > > What can I do???

> > > > Please help! Can't find info anywhwere!!

> > > >

> > > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

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