root canal

[Guest guest]

> I don't find this issue fully related to ES (except as a part of a

> general irritability possibly underlying ES), but it's not me who started :-).

Some people blame root canals on impairing their immune system due to

possible low-level infections at the root canal.

So, if one thinks of ES as being an immune system problem, then root

canals could be a contributing factor.

Marc

[Guest guest]

On Aug 1, 2005, at 18:30, Marc wrote:

> Some people blame root canals on impairing their immune system due to

> possible low-level infections at the root canal.

>

> So, if one thinks of ES as being an immune system problem, then root

> canals could be a contributing factor.

I don't have the data points to comment on an immune system source for

ES, but I do know that some of the symptoms I associate with ES

(particularly tinnitus and nerve pain) are worse for inflammation,

which of course is immune-related. So there could be a correlative

relationship if not causal.

The two primary sources of inflammation for me are synthetic chemicals,

especially those derived from petroleum -- which unfortunately includes

the ubiquitous 'parfum' and 'fragrance' -- and weather changes. So

Scotland is fine for me, but only if I can avoid the chems.

Emma

[Guest guest]

Dear Debby,

Dentist perscribe antibiotics to cover themselves, just like doctors

do. There is no antibiotic drug that helps avoid infection like

natural products do! I had the last 12 of my teeth pulled under

general anesthetic when I got dentures and didn't take any pain

killers or antibiotics. I took 100,000 IUs of vitamin A (with the

complement of vitamin D) contained in halibut liver oil capsules,

4,000 mgs. of vitamin C and my other usual supplements daily. When I

went back a week later my dentist was amazed at how fast I healed.

If you want insurance, in addition to taking what I did, also drink 4

cups of garlic tea per day and take 2 drops of oil of oregano or

clove oil in water or oil up to 10 times per day. You can take extra

cod liver oil instead of halibut liver oil capsules - 4 tablespoons

per day in split doses for a week or 10 days.

Bee

>

> So tonight I went and got my root canal, after

> thinking on it for a couple of months. I decided on a

> plastic composite filling after a bit of research.

>

> I'm sure that's not the best either but I have been

> putting off the root canal for a very long time.

> After the procedure the dentist told me he wanted me

> to take antibiotics!

>

> I told him I did not want to take them and asked for

> any warning symptoms I should look for in an

> infection.

>

> He tried several scare tactics but I did not budge.

> Now what should I do? Should I not worry unless it

> gets infected, or should I take natural supplements?

> Thanks for any advice.

>

> I wish he would have told me before the procedure that

> he would want me to take antibiotics, as I would have

> researched the topic first. Now I'm kind of freaking

> out!

[Guest guest]

I've had several root canals in the past and not once did my dentist advise me

to take antibiotics as a preventative measure. My mouth always healed without

any problems.

Take Care.

After the procedure the dentist told me he wanted me

to take antibiotics!

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Enrich your life at Canada Finance

[Guest guest]

Thanks, this makes me feel so much better. I do not

want to take antibiotics, and doctors keep trying to

give them to me, and then they scare me and make me

freak out! My tooth is very tender today.. how long

does that last?

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Shermanoffski <shermanoffski@...> wrote:

> I've had several root canals in the past and not

> once did my dentist advise me to take antibiotics as

> a preventative measure. My mouth always healed

> without any problems.

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

--- Bee Wilder <beeisbuzzing2003@...> wrote:

> If you want insurance, in addition to taking what I

> did, also drink 4

> cups of garlic tea per day and take 2 drops of oil

> of oregano or

> clove oil in water or oil up to 10 times per day.

> You can take extra

> cod liver oil instead of halibut liver oil capsules

> - 4 tablespoons

> per day in split doses for a week or 10 days.

Thanks Bee, I will do this. I try not to be scared

but these doctors/dentists are always trying to use

scare tactics on me and always pushing antibiotics on

me. It's very frustrating, especially when I am very

vulnerable because I am sick with a cold or flu, or

full of dental drugs like I was last night.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

I don't take antibiotics for prevention. If my dentist or doctor tells

me to take antibiotics to prevent infections I just say okay but don't

take them. He's happy and I'm happy. But I do take extra Vitamin C.

Dee

>

> Thanks, this makes me feel so much better. I do not

> want to take antibiotics, and doctors keep trying to

> give them to me, and then they scare me and make me

> freak out! My tooth is very tender today.. how long

> does that last?

>

> Luv,

> Debby

[Guest guest]

>

> Thanks, this makes me feel so much better. I do not

> want to take antibiotics, and doctors keep trying to

> give them to me, and then they scare me and make me

> freak out! My tooth is very tender today.. how long

> does that last?

==>Tenderness indicates it is healing, which causes swelling to

immobilize it and redness which means more blood is being

concentrated in that area. It shouldn't last more than 3 days. You

can mix ocean sea salt in warm water - make it highly concentrated

(can't remember how much, maybe 1/2 tsp. in 4 ounces) - hold a

mouthful for up to 2 minutes swishing it around well between your

teeth - do this 3-4 times a day for 3 days. Or mix 3% hydrogen

peroxide in warm water (half and half) and do the same thing.

I hope that helps.

Bee

[Guest guest]

Hi Debby,

I had two root canals done simultaneously and did not take any anti-biotics

and had no problems what-so-ever. Unless you count the $2,400 I was out

afterwards 8^O

Shirley G.

> > I wish he would have told me before the procedure that

> > he would want me to take antibiotics, as I would have

> > researched the topic first. Now I'm kind of freaking

> > out!

[Guest guest]

Thanks Shirley, I'm feeling much more calm now.

Luckily I have good dental insurance that covers 80%

of all of this. I still have four cavities I have to

fill and all four wisdom teeth need to be pulled.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Shirley G <chickwbrains@...> wrote:

> Hi Debby,

>

> I had two root canals done simultaneously and did

> not take any anti-biotics

> and had no problems what-so-ever. Unless you count

> the $2,400 I was out

> afterwards 8^O

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

--- garnejil <garnejil@...> wrote:

> Hi. I'm new the the board but not new to Candida.

>

> You could try Collodial Silver - a natural

> antibiotic. Just don't

> take it for more than 10 days. Mix as directed with

> water. You can

> find it at many health stores.

Thanks for the tip, but since Bee says it's not OK,

and I'm not familiar with it, I'm going to have to

trust her judgement and pass on this advice. But

thanks!

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

Why would it not be okay?

>

> > Hi. I'm new the the board but not new to Candida.

> >

> > You could try Collodial Silver - a natural

> > antibiotic. Just don't

> > take it for more than 10 days. Mix as directed with

> > water. You can

> > find it at many health stores.

>

> Thanks for the tip, but since Bee says it's not OK,

> and I'm not familiar with it, I'm going to have to

> trust her judgement and pass on this advice. But

> thanks!

>

> Luv,

> Debby

> San , CA

>

> Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

> http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

>

[Guest guest]

See message # 3334 in the message files, and the article:

http://f2.grp.fs.com/v1/wJQMRES-xGhfOvEIrW7g4CGomkbqvFkAOirSxI6HbTvt8trwJIG\

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Zack

On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, garnejil wrote:

> Why would it not be okay?

>

>

> >

> > > Hi. I'm new the the board but not new to Candida.

> > >

> > > You could try Collodial Silver - a natural

> > > antibiotic. Just don't

> > > take it for more than 10 days. Mix as directed with

> > > water. You can

> > > find it at many health stores.

> >

> > Thanks for the tip, but since Bee says it's not OK,

> > and I'm not familiar with it, I'm going to have to

> > trust her judgement and pass on this advice. But

> > thanks!

> >

> > Luv,

> > Debby

> > San , CA

[Guest guest]

I'm not sure, I checked the archives to see if she had

talked about this before, and she said it was not OK

several months ago. I'm sure Bee can tell us why.

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- garnejil <garnejil@...> wrote:

> Why would it not be okay?

>

>

> >

> > > Hi. I'm new the the board but not new to

> Candida.

> > >

> > > You could try Collodial Silver - a natural

> > > antibiotic. Just don't

> > > take it for more than 10 days. Mix as directed

> with

> > > water. You can

> > > find it at many health stores.

Website for my son Hunter Hudson, born 10/11/04:

http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

Hi Sharon,

I'd love to see the chart.. would you mind emailing it

to me?

Luv,

Debby

San , CA

--- Sharon <hotmocha@...> wrote:

> What first got me interested in learning about teeth

> and root canals

> was an article in Alive magazine about a woman with

> breast cancer.

> She had a root canal removed and her cancer went

> away. Each tooth

> is connected to a specific organ, energetically

> speaking. A root

> canal interferes with the energy flow (chi) of the

> body. In her

> case the root canal was causing a blockage.

-------------

I have never seen a person grow or change in a constructive direction when

motivated by guilt, shame and/or hate.

My son Hunter Hudson (10/11/04) http://debbypadilla.0catch.com/hunter/

[Guest guest]

Debby Padilla-Hudson <debbypadilla@...> wrote:

> Hi Sharon,

> I'd love to see the chart.. would you mind emailing it

> to me?

> Luv,

> Debby

> San , CA

Hello Sharon,

I too would love to see the chart. Would you mind e-mailing me a copy

as well?

Thank you so much.

Debra NW

[Guest guest]

Count me in too. Unless it can be posted here.

Thanks!

Andy

>

> > Hi Sharon,

>

> > I'd love to see the chart.. would you mind emailing it

> > to me?

>

> > Luv,

> > Debby

> > San , CA

>

>

> Hello Sharon,

> I too would love to see the chart. Would you mind e-mailing me a

copy

> as well?

>

> Thank you so much.

> Debra NW

>

[Guest guest]

Re: [ ] Root Canal

Me too please, Sharon

Thanks,

[Guest guest]

I just had one. the nerve can die with/without infection. Enough

trauma over the years the nerve dies.

once you get the root canal, then electrifying the teeth like we have

done here might help control any residual infection. nobody argues with

the mechanical effectiveness of root canals, it seems to be just the

later infections that seems to get their concerns going.

so, why worry about it,,just electrify it from time to time to limit

any bacteria in the teeth? seems ok to me, but not a doctor or

dentist, just voicing my opinion here...your dentist can tell you the

whole story. An endodontist is even more informative in that regard.

bG

>

> Greetings!

>

> I just found out that I need a root canal and of course I am looking

> to avoid the surgery. Please post any known remedies. I have found

> these so far:

> http://chetday.com/rootcanal.html

> http://ezinearticles.com/?A-Natural-Remedy-for-Gingivitis,-

Toothaches,-and-Mouth-Sores & id=20223

> http://mizar5.com/root.htm

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

i believe scenar works without root canal...i have to look it up

Root Canal

> Greetings!

>

> Just found out that I might need surgery on a root canal. I have the

> beck protocol, but are there any other remedies?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

>

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>

>

[Guest guest]

I had a root canal done over a year ago, and found out that inside the

hollowed teeth, there could be infection despite the assurance of my

dentist. Now I realize that root canal is NOT a good thing to have

because no matter how tight the seal is, bacteria will always leaked

into the cavity and hide there, generating toxin for the body. I have

used my mag pulser to halt the infection successfully, but I have to

keep on doing that periodically. I think this is another example where

" modern tech " turns out to be another curse for our health. It would

be much better healing the teeth than doing the root canal by placing

a small current (Beck protocol) across the tooth, and stay away from

acidic foods (sugar, soda, coffee, etc.) Goggle with baking soda water

should help.

>

> Greetings!

>

> Just found out that I might need surgery on a root canal. I have the

> beck protocol, but are there any other remedies?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

I think having the tooth pulled would be better, but people are

different. If you tooth is THAT bad, I dont think anything esle would

be in order except a root canal or pulled....good luck.. R

>

> Greetings!

>

> Just found out that I might need surgery on a root canal. I have the

> beck protocol, but are there any other remedies?

>

> Thanks,

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

that's what i'd do. sooner or later you will need the dentist

because an infection means a break in the defensive walls.

remember, though, Dick put off his 1500 " spa appointment " for a

couple of years using godzilla. So he had time to cut some lawns and

deliver some papers to save up for it rather than get hit in

retirement with sudden drain of cash.

Some day there will be a dental cruise with all the care you need on

one big boat, and instead of just an office with old magazines, you

get sea breezes and gourmet, uh, soup. Cheap cuisine, no steaks,

because you can't chew. People nice and quiet on the cruise due to

novocaine...hey, nice! Where do I sign up?

bG

>

>

>

> > An update on my #13 tooth that I have been treating with a baby

> Godzilla for some years. It flared up again, and the dentist said it

> was a failed root canal. (Sometimes they cannot completely clean out

> and fill every nerve canal in a tooth, and any piece of remaining

> nerve will start rotting and leak bacteria into the jawbone, which

> also begins rotting.) This softens the bone and leaves a spot that

can

> continue to grow. The poison that is absorbed into the body can

cause

> organ failure, often the heart.

> >

> > Using microcurrent through this area did stop the pain every time,

> so it must have killed the infection, but the dead nerve in the root

> continued to leak pus, or whatever, and reinfected the bone. I

treated

> it 3 or 4 times over the years.

> >

> > The endodontist cut a flap in the gums above the offending tooth,

> cut out the bone so he could get to the tooth root, cut off the end

of

> the root, removed the softened bone spot, filled the end of the root

> with the new material, and sewed up the gums. All done in about an

> hour and a half.

> >

> > A couple of ibuprofin, an ice pack over the cheek, a nice nap and

> not a bit of pain after the novacain wore off. Ate a good dinner and

> slept all night. Still no pain or problem two days later, except

for a

> reduction of over $1500 in my bank account.

> >

> > Maybe the dead nerve would have just dissolved if I had continued

to

> use the microcurrent for a long period after the pain went away. And

> maybe not. It is obvious that the current did penetrate the bone and

> kill the infection, but maybe not completely. Probably just reduced

> the bacteria to a level that it was not causing a buildup of gas

that

> caused the pain.

> >

> > Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

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[Guest guest]

oh, yeah, we have plans photos etc, you just have to look on the

menu/photos/and see them. lazy, arn't ya?

bG

> >

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> >

> > > An update on my #13 tooth that I have been treating with a baby

> > Godzilla for some years. It flared up again, and the dentist said

it

> > was a failed root canal. (Sometimes they cannot completely clean

out

> > and fill every nerve canal in a tooth, and any piece of remaining

> > nerve will start rotting and leak bacteria into the jawbone, which

> > also begins rotting.) This softens the bone and leaves a spot

that

> can

> > continue to grow. The poison that is absorbed into the body can

> cause

> > organ failure, often the heart.

> > >

> > > Using microcurrent through this area did stop the pain every

time,

> > so it must have killed the infection, but the dead nerve in the

root

> > continued to leak pus, or whatever, and reinfected the bone. I

> treated

> > it 3 or 4 times over the years.

> > >

> > > The endodontist cut a flap in the gums above the offending

tooth,

> > cut out the bone so he could get to the tooth root, cut off the

end

> of

> > the root, removed the softened bone spot, filled the end of the

root

> > with the new material, and sewed up the gums. All done in about an

> > hour and a half.

> > >

> > > A couple of ibuprofin, an ice pack over the cheek, a nice nap

and

> > not a bit of pain after the novacain wore off. Ate a good dinner

and

> > slept all night. Still no pain or problem two days later, except

> for a

> > reduction of over $1500 in my bank account.

> > >

> > > Maybe the dead nerve would have just dissolved if I had

continued

> to

> > use the microcurrent for a long period after the pain went away.

And

> > maybe not. It is obvious that the current did penetrate the bone

and

> > kill the infection, but maybe not completely. Probably just

reduced

> > the bacteria to a level that it was not causing a buildup of gas

> that

> > caused the pain.

> > >

> > > Anyway, that's my story and I'm sticking to it.

> > >

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[Guest guest]

>

> I am not fully on the program . . . studying now. I had to have a

root

> canal today . . . was in such pain. He wanted to put me on

antibiotics

> but I begged him to wait until Monday. He said it was

infected . . . I

> know about silver . . . anything else you recommend. I DO NOT want

to

> be on antibiotics . . . I know the havoc they create. Thanks in

> advance for your support.

++Hi . I feel for you my dear. I wish you had asked about

root canals, since they aren't recommended. However, you can use

natural antibiotics instead of antibiotic drugs, and natural pain

killers too.

Dentists and doctors scare us by making us think if we have an

infection it is so horrible, when it is not. An infection is simply

inflammation and swelling caused by the body sending more healing

blood to the area, along with immune system substances to help

healing. If those reactions are suppressed with drugs your body

won't heal properly, and you'll have more problems that may be worse

later on.

I never recommend colloidal silver be taken for any reason. Silver

is only required in " trace " amounts by the body and taking more will

throw off minerals balances in the body. Also silver can accumulate

in the body and cause poisoning - see this article:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/mn7.php

I suggest you apply the treatments listed in this article on Mouth

Thrush (not the nystatin of course), which are natural antibiotics.

Also take White Willow Bark for pain - buy it in capsules at your

health store and take it according to the label:

http://www.healingnaturallybybee.com/articles/treat18.php

The best, Bee