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So sad to hear about everyone's problems !!!I'd like to share an observation ....My grandmother had several teeth fall out whenshe was in between 75 and 85 The dentists pulled all her teeth and she wore dentures from then on ( I know the thought sounds absolutely horrible) but on a positive note, her 105th b-dayis coming up August 13th (I know, I know, same as Fidel Castro's !!! ) but she hasn't reallyhad any major health issues. Just something to consider. Especially if you are already past the'dating' stage or are in a 'lovable' relationship with someone that won't mind the dentures!And (for what the tests are worth) everytime she goesin for her check ups the doctor's say all her tests

are 'normal' (meaning within the boundary's that 'they'deem normal) Blessings,

I am very interested in this. I have been lurking for awhile and

learning. I wish I knew a few years ago what I am finding out now! My

teeth were in vary bad shape. They would take no more crowns, fillings,

root canals. So I saved the $$ and got implants (12 titanium w

porcelain crowns). My few remaining (10 front - upper an lower) are

having problems: they are brittle and subject to breaking not to

mention being very sensitive. The implant procedure was lengthly. 18

months for completion. I am overjoyed at being able to chew again, but

now I read about what this may have done to the rest of me as I am

experiencing unexplained problems systemically (some are stress

related, but surely not all are!). How does on go about testing to

find out the cause (and then the cure?) My fund are very limited and I

have no insurance (not the insurance would pay for much of the testing

anyway.)

Janet A wrote:

,

Thanks for this stem cell information. I'll do some reading on it. At

my age (57) I need to get cracking on what I'll do if something needs

to be repaired in my already train wrecked mouth !

When I became certified as a colorpuncturist through a system taught in

Germany, we learned how important the drainage/lymph flow is from the

mouth down through the neck. In Germany they frown on root canals (we

were told) and implants are not recommended because the metal blocks

the flow of energy. We acupuncturists know that the teeth are

connected to the energy meridians in the body. Our instructor

mentioned that implants can cause pain in parts of the body years later.

I'll be interested to see if this stem cell technology includes metal

components.

Janet

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From: clairewest@...

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 20:34:09 -0700

Subject: Re: Root canal

Janet,

Removing teeth from the front of your mouth without replacements is

certainly a whole different story! And that's what I was facing before

I gave the D & K2 a chance (the cavity I spoke of threatened an

already existing bridge of 6 teeth across the top front of my mouth).

So at the time, I was doing a lot of research and was especially

interested in new experiments using a person's own stem cells to grow

new teeth. At the time (4-5 yrs ago), it was more theory than anything

else, but I just went to check and it seems to be a developing

technology now:

http://www.popsci.com/science/article/2010-05/new-technique-uses-bodys-stem-cells-regenerate-teeth

On 7/30/2011 5:57 PM, Janet A wrote:

I shudder when I think about the 7 (at least) root

canals in my mouth ! What is interesting is that my health declined

drastically (Hashi's suddenly, adrenal fatigue) about 4 months after I

had extensive dental work done that included re capping, veneers and a

tooth extraction when one old cap was removed and the tooth underneath

found to be infected.

Then I went on to have 4 old silver fillings removed without any

protective procedures...eeekkk! I think I have about 8 of my original

teeth the rest are caps, veneers.

Can you see problems in x rays with these root canal teeth? I've since

seen a holistic dentist and have "joked" about having all my root canal

teeth removed which seems drastic and not recommended, yet......

I have several in the front so removing them without any replacement

isn't going to work either ; (

janet

iodine

From: clairewest@...

Date: Sat, 30 Jul 2011 17:49:53 -0700

Subject: Re: Root canal

<You definitely want to fill in the gap,

so your teeth don't move around or erupt.>

I think this is true if you are on SAD foods, but not if you are

getting the nutrients your teeth need. A couple of months ago, there

was a thread on this forum about the wonders of getting enough vit D

(cod liver oil) and vitamin K2 (grass-fed butter or natto) in your

diet. I talked then about the remineralization of my teeth (one right

over what had been a cavity) and the non-staining aspect of my

strengthened enamel. I forgot to mention that I never did accept any

dental work for the many spaces (more spaces than teeth!) left

by pulled teeth in my lower jaw, and in the 4-5 years since, there has

been no movement of the teeth that remain.

On 7/30/2011 5:14 PM, Anne Seals wrote:

Standard alternative practice has been to pull the tooth,

rather than root canal it. A few alternative dentists now do root

canals, but treat the tooth with ozone or laser, & claim that it

kills all infection. Makes me a bit nervous, but it could save the

tooth. You will have to research that one on your own.

You definitely want to fill in the gap, so your teeth don't

move around or erupt. The Catch-22 there is that there are risks

associated with this replacement. You can have a little "flipper" tooth

put in, but those tend not to be too stable. You can have an implant

set in your jaw to mount an artificial tooth -- but that is surgery,

& you have to worry whether there is any residual infection in the

jaw, & whether the materials are compatible. Another approach is a

bridge -- which means putting crowns on the neighboring teeth -- &

any time you do that kind of major work on a tooth, you can kill it.

SOMETIMES tooth sensitivity can be corrected by

remineralizing the tooth with nutrients & /or dental care, or

addressing underlying infection...

Anne

On Jul 30, 2011, at 3:25 PM, Shreve wrote:

So, my dentist often comments that one of my

sensitive teeth may need a root canal, a bit too casually for my

liking, so I ignore him. Sounds like if I truly need a root canal, it

would be better for my health if I just had it pulled? I suppose at

that point a spacer of some kind is put in place?

--

Teddy Lancaster

Teddy Lancaster

http://runningbear.com/

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