Guest guest Posted November 16, 2006 Report Share Posted November 16, 2006 > > Bee, > Thank you for answering all of my previous questions. I remember you stating that you do not have a thyroid. I do not either. I have been working with Dr. Rbt Cathcart to get it regulated for 3 years. It is still a work in progress. You mentioned that you take Armour Thyroid and some Levothyroxine and are fine. Would you share how much of each you take? I know we are all different, but am trying to figure out where I am. I am almost certain that my incorrect thyroid replacement is my problem with Candida. > ==>, I take 90 mgs of dessicated thyroid (the brand Armour is not available in Canada) and .025 of Levothyroxine, taken in split doses. I do not believe your incorrect doses are your problem with candida however. Bee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Thanks Tammy for the recommendation. I will check it out at the link you sent. a Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 4, 2009 Report Share Posted January 4, 2009 Many doctors don't know how to read thyroid tests--if you TSH is above 2 you may have subclinical hypothyroid-- " out of range " is 5.5--mine was 5 and my (get this) integrative doctor told me that was " fantastic. " next time i tested (diff. doctor), it was slightly out of range and i was put on armour, it helps a lot. conventional endocrinology doctor group said that about the tsh reading--that 5.5 can be too high for a cutoff. did they test reverse t3? The Web site stopthethyroidmadness.com is a good source of info on this, also Shomon who writes about thyroid in books and on about.com. You could try taking kelp or some other supplements if you feel it is very mild--frankly i wouldn't take thyroid tissue from health food stores as dosage and purity is so important. Armour is thyroid tissue and you know how much you're getting. It is very strong kicking in, I felt worse then better as it was upped. Candida infection can also be a cause of low thyroid as I understand it. There is a shortage of Armour and lately they give me generic stuff but it seems to work OK. Vicky > > I was told I may have low thyroid function based on my body > temperature though my exam is fine for thiroid hormones. > Doc prescribed me a little of Armour med to try. But I red that some > supplements with thyroid tissue can help in mild case. Do you know > someting about that? I think probably it is the reason for reocuring > infection for me.I also red that Row Spleen can help for candida but > all such supplements have sugar. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 I have already found one supplement with tyroid tissue from American Biologics and I will try it for a while. It is pure tissue not extract and I red it could be enough. I am afraid bc i tend to have palpitation, chest pain, reflux, heat intolerasnce,anxiety.If it will not work I will go for Armour. I have red that tyroid could be the reason for reoccuring infection and infection could couse again tyroid problems.It is like eggs and chicken question. But i suspect I had tyroid problem in the past after the birth of my child I was extrimely weak, cold and barely walk.I was told everybody in my home town have it bc there is no much iodine in high mountain area. In regard of kelp and other iodine food I red that in mild cases we should avoid it. I really don1t like kepl only in soup probably I can eat a little bit.There is opinion that iodine can imbalace tyroids even more that ever. Thank you, > > > > I was told I may have low thyroid function based on my body > > temperature though my exam is fine for thiroid hormones. > > Doc prescribed me a little of Armour med to try. But I red that some > > supplements with thyroid tissue can help in mild case. Do you know > > someting about that? I think probably it is the reason for reocuring > > infection for me.I also red that Row Spleen can help for candida but > > all such supplements have sugar. > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2009 Report Share Posted January 5, 2009 When I started treating my thyroid (hypo) I started with the american biologics bovine thyroid and did very well on it. I didn't start having problems until I switched to armour. You really should have your thyroid levels tested before taking any thyroid medication, OTC or not. You can order a blood spot test here: http://www.canaryclub.org/content/view/551/180 http://www.healthcheckusa.com/lab_tests/Thyroid_Screenings/Thyroid_Panel_II These are not the only places you can order lab tests yourself. You want Free T3, Free T4 and maybe antithyroid antibodies. TSH is a pituitary hormone, can be interesting to know, but should not be used by itself to diagnose thyroid problems. sol imsinfo wrote: > I have already found one supplement with tyroid tissue from American > Biologics and I will try it for a while. It is pure tissue not > extract and I red it could be enough. I am afraid bc i tend to have > palpitation, chest pain, reflux, heat intolerasnce,anxiety.If it > will not work I will go for Armour. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 It is my understanding that you can only get thyroid hormone with a prescription. Other supplements, such as Standard Process's Thyrotrphin PMG is made with bovine thyroid tissue, but it is not 'active' glandular extract. It more or less provides nutrition to the thyroid and does not directly provide hormone or stimulate the gland. Then again, I guess you can order stuff off the internet that would do some of that stuff, in which case, I would be more careful. Buddy On Mon, Jan 5, 2009 at 5:44 PM, sol <solbun@...> wrote: > When I started treating my thyroid (hypo) I started with the american > biologics bovine thyroid and did very well on it. I didn't start having > problems until I switched to armour. > You really should have your thyroid levels tested before taking any > thyroid medication, OTC or not. > You can order a blood spot test here: > http://www.canaryclub.org/content/view/551/180 > http://www.healthcheckusa.com/lab_tests/Thyroid_Screenings/Thyroid_Panel_II > These are not the only places you can order lab tests yourself. > You want Free T3, Free T4 and maybe antithyroid antibodies. TSH is a > pituitary hormone, can be interesting to know, but should not be used by > itself to diagnose thyroid problems. > sol > > imsinfo wrote: > > I have already found one supplement with tyroid tissue from American > > Biologics and I will try it for a while. It is pure tissue not > > extract and I red it could be enough. I am afraid bc i tend to have > > palpitation, chest pain, reflux, heat intolerasnce,anxiety.If it > > will not work I will go for Armour. > > > > > > > -- Buddy A. Touchinsky, D.C. Blue Mountain Family Chiropractic www.bmfchiro.com Healthy Habits Natural Market www.healthyhabitsnaturalmarket.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 All I can say is I know from personal experience that American Biologics Thyroid DOES contain thyroid hormones. sol Buddy A. Touchinsky, D.C. wrote: > It is my understanding that you can only get thyroid hormone with a > prescription. Other supplements, such as Standard Process's Thyrotrphin PMG > is made with bovine thyroid tissue, but it is not 'active' glandular > extract. It more or less provides nutrition to the thyroid and does not > directly provide hormone or stimulate the gland. > > Then again, I guess you can order stuff off the internet that would do some > of that stuff, in which case, I would be more careful. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 You can. There's even a place to get Armour without a prescription. Dr. Teitelbaum lists these places on endfatigue.com for people who can't get access to natural thyroid. If you have a doctor who's thyroid-savvy (the endfatigue.com site also has a practioner directory) it's a lot better to go to a doctor. You have to get your thyroid retested occasionally (more often at first) after starting it. It's the master gland so the hormones have a very strong effect. You don't want to make yourself hyperthyroid. Vicky > > It is my understanding that you can only get thyroid hormone with a > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 6, 2009 Report Share Posted January 6, 2009 multitoed wrote: > If you have a doctor who's > thyroid-savvy (the endfatigue.com site also has a practioner > directory) it's a lot better to go to a doctor. You have to get your > thyroid retested occasionally (more often at first) after starting it. > It's the master gland so the hormones have a very strong effect. You > don't want to make yourself hyperthyroid. > Well that is the trick. To find a thyroid savvy doctor. The only doctor here who bills himself as treating thyoroid has an office nurse who is bald from hypothyroid. And I do mean BALD, like 2-3 wisps of hair only. And he is the doctor who would not prescribe armour for my mother and later took her off even synthroid. She didn't have a thyroid, having had it removed surgically decades before. I'm sure as anything NOT going to a doc like that. He and others here have told me for years my thyroid was " normal'. Now after 2 years self-treating, I am finally really getting enough experience with symptoms, and my labs. But too late to warn about hyper---been there done that. I do now believe most of the online thyroid lists recommend too high dosing. sol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2009 Report Share Posted January 9, 2009 It is right, I have iron anemia and have iron shot every year. It is ineresting that i feel even more cold now. Probably it is normal reaction or just cold weather. I should tell my new doc about that. He suggest that I may have adrenal deficiency and I should treat it first. But i know i can`t tolerate anything that increase adrenal function like stimulants and tonic. We will see. > > I am taking 2 tabs now but don`t see any difference for now. > > How much did you took? > > I have already sent new test which is more exact and hope to find > > out the real numbers for all my hormones. I have seen integrative > > doc too and he prescribed Female frofile test with saliva sample. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 12, 2009 Report Share Posted January 12, 2009 Sharon, you had mentioned something about toxic tonsils but I deleted it by mistake, can you email it again to me. spice From: imsinfo <imsinfo@...> Subject: Thyroid supplement candidiasis Date: Saturday, January 3, 2009, 1:16 PM I was told I may have low thyroid function based on my body temperature though my exam is fine for thiroid hormones. Doc prescribed me a little of Armour med to try. But I red that some supplements with thyroid tissue can help in mild case. Do you know someting about that? I think probably it is the reason for reocuring infection for me.I also red that Row Spleen can help for candida but all such supplements have sugar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 13, 2009 Report Share Posted January 13, 2009 And I am reading that candida can do this too Sol. Mo > I started with half a tablet. There are a lot of conditions that can > block thyroid hormones from working, or from being produced in the > thyroid gland. Pernicious anemia (lack of B12, and its cofactors) and > also iron overload is an often overlooked factor. True iron anemia > (rare) can also be a factor. > Plus sex hormone imbalances or deficiencies can affect thyroid. > sol > > imsinfo wrote: > > I am taking 2 tabs now but don`t see any difference for now. > > How much did you took? > > I have already sent new test which is more exact and hope to find > > out the real numbers for all my hormones. I have seen integrative > > doc too and he prescribed Female frofile test with saliva sample. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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