Jeff and's comments re: Jim

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Jeff, Jeff, Jeff,....

You seem to be having a bad day or something.

Your last message implied I couldn't read anything but

a simple sentence, that I was unaware that mould is

ubiquitous, and that I was rediculous (your spelling).

Actually, I took that comment about ridiculous as a

bit of a complement since you had called Dr. Joe Klein

ridiculous as well. It appears you want to lower this

discussion on the effectiveness of ozone treatment to

a gutter-level. Sorry, not interested.

I will make a couple final comments and that will be

the last time I address this subject with you. After

this you can say what you like.

I always understood, and I thought you and everyone

else did as well, that the point of this discussion

was whether ozone was effective to treat contaminating

mould i.e. the stuff that is growing in carpets,

behind walls, or elsewhere in a building. I never

considered we were discussing getting rid of all the

" natural " mould too. If anyone suggested to me that we

must get rid of the " natural " mould too, I would agree

with you that that would be impractical. I think that

is a given for anyone addressing mould in buildings. I

guess I have discussed this subject so often with

others that I just assume we are all talking about

getting rid of the contamination, and we realized that

" normal " mould is something we have to live with.

You make a statement, " When we treat a home with ozone

shock treatment, it will reach an uncountable level at

the end of the treatment. " This statement implies you

have tested at the end of some treatments and can

back-up the statement with data. Which, of course, is

what Joe Klein asked you to do earlier in this

discussion. When my son was younger we played a

counting game trying to see who could count something

fastest. One day he figured out he could win if he

closed his eyes and said " none, cuz I have my eyes

closed " (we laughed at his cuteness). I am not

suggesting you conducted your testing with your eyes

closed but if you didn't check in wall cavities, take

swab sample and air samples and test thoroughly (and

scientifically??) then you really don't know what is

left, or if it is " countable " .

Well Jeff it's been a slice. I don't wish you good

luck with your ozone shock treatment procedures

because the literature tells us is is largely

ineffective in homes. I do hope that anyone

considering using ozone treatments will read the

literature availalble from EPA and the Health

Departments in the states of Minnisota and California.

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