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Connie, yes chlorine bleach kills HCV. If blood dries and is then wet again,

the virus is reactivated. I would not share combs or hairbrushes because one

could have a slight pimple or sore on the head that could bleed minutely into

the comb. Arlene

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Speaking of bleach, does anyone know the proper ratio/time for the

clorox-water bath used to remove pesticides from non-organically-grown

vegetables? Any help in this would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks.

JC

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That is unless Jim doesn't have Cook Right 4 Your Type? If you don't let me

know and I can look it up Jim. Jeanie

>

> Yes, this is covered in " Cook Right 4 Your Type " . A ratio is given for

> dish detergent and bleach. The detergent increases the wateriness of the

> water, and doing so helps the cleaning action of the bleach. Nuff said?

>

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On Tue, 9 Nov 1999, Jim Crow wrote:

> From: " Jim Crow " <jimmcroww@...>

>

> Speaking of bleach, does anyone know the proper ratio/time for the

> clorox-water bath used to remove pesticides from non-organically-grown

> vegetables? Any help in this would be GREATLY appreciated. Thanks.

>

> JC

>

There you go, a good way to include the original message.

Yes, this is covered in " Cook Right 4 Your Type " . A ratio is given for

dish detergent and bleach. The detergent increases the wateriness of the

water, and doing so helps the cleaning action of the bleach. Nuff said?

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Hotep,

Lemon juice, and other acidic foods, will kill bacteria and are

environmentally friendly, as well.

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I'm curious why you choose bleach for cleaning. I have read that bleach is

horrible for the environment. Why not use vinegar or hydrogen peroxide or

something?

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> I'm curious why you choose bleach for cleaning. I have read that

> bleach is horrible for the environment. Why not use vinegar or

> hydrogen peroxide or something?

I use the microwave - with the Easysprouters, fill the sprouter

with clean water, heat it up for about 4 minutes and that hot

water kills off any bacteria without any chemicals. I let it

sit for a few minutes, then drain off the near-boiling water

and let the parts dry completely before sprouting again, that's

how I " Sterilize " things.

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a do you have any farm supply places near you? Stores that sell

chemicals or fertilizers to farmers? Perhaps you could try there.

Also, can anyone tell me how much baking soda or vinegar, OR 35%

peroxide to put into a washer? I usually wash clothes with a full load.

thank you

Joyce

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> I have used the borax and baking soda. We have pretty hard water here.

> The clothes start looking dingy and grey. Also, the staining problem.

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I had a swimming pool and used it instead of chlorine also

as they did at an amusement park in Atlanta for many years

Whitewater I think it was called. You would need to get large

quantities locally you can search on the internet for small quantities

if you rather buy it a gallon or so at the time....just a small

amount will do in the washing machine....add about 1/2 of what

your clorox dispenser will take. it will eat up your clothes if you use

too much eventually (but then so will clorox lol I guess) you

shouldn't need it all that often most people dont use clorox with

their colors (I do use hydrogen peroxide for colors too in fact

I haven't used whites since 1993 when I started with Dr. and I have

used NOTHING but BORAX since that time and didn't add peroxide until

1999 - you can also fill your dispenser with white vinegar which is great

in fact maybe double that amount....its even recommended by Maytag lol

and of course Dr. says clean with it such as your windows etc....

Dr@...: snaffles@...: Tue, 12 Aug 2008

07:09:49 -0500Subject: Re: Bleach

a do you have any farm supply places near you? Stores that sell chemicals or

fertilizers to farmers? Perhaps you could try there.Also, can anyone tell me how

much baking soda or vinegar, OR 35% peroxide to put into a washer? I usually

wash clothes with a full load.thank youJoycea wrote:>>> Tp, I was

wondering if you would share where you can find hydrogen > peroxide 35% in a 55

gallon drum? That sure is a lot. Isn't it kind of > flammable?>> I have used the

borax and baking soda. We have pretty hard water here. > The clothes start

looking dingy and grey. Also, the staining problem. > The peroxide sounded like

the way to go. I had some at one time but > where I got it is nolonger in

business.>>> a>> for Alzheimers?>> New business?>> Get new customers. >

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Remember Dr. no longer approves of Arm and Hammer Washing soda

if that is what you are talking about - that went out in about 1995 or so

only Borax that I know of...

Dr@...: snaffles@...: Tue, 12 Aug 2008

07:09:49 -0500Subject: Re: Bleach

a do you have any farm supply places near you? Stores that sell chemicals or

fertilizers to farmers? Perhaps you could try there.Also, can anyone tell me how

much baking soda or vinegar, OR 35% peroxide to put into a washer? I usually

wash clothes with a full load.thank youJoycea wrote:>>> Tp, I was

wondering if you would share where you can find hydrogen > peroxide 35% in a 55

gallon drum? That sure is a lot. Isn't it kind of > flammable?>> I have used the

borax and baking soda. We have pretty hard water here. > The clothes start

looking dingy and grey. Also, the staining problem. > The peroxide sounded like

the way to go. I had some at one time but > where I got it is nolonger in

business.>>> a>> for Alzheimers?>> New business?>> Get new customers. >

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I HOME distill my water for drinking and you dont want the sears plastic type it

gets garbage in it

I have an excellent source for anyone that wants one home made that

is better than most inexpensive store bought etc...if anyone wants

to know

Dr@...: plwp@...: Tue, 12 Aug 2008 07:50:39

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Thanks to everyone that responded to my question. If I answered all of them

individually it would take up a lot of space. Tp, I was wondering if you would

share where you can find hydrogen peroxide 35% in a 55 gallon drum? That sure is

a lot. Isn't it kind of flammable?I have used the borax and baking soda. We have

pretty hard water here. The clothes start looking dingy and grey. Also, the

staining problem. The peroxide sounded like the way to go. I had some at one

time but where I got it is nolonger in business.I use a water filter for

drinking water. I read somewhere that you could neutralize chlorine by putting

in some vitamin C. That was very informative info. Thankyoua[Non-text

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Oh I use a whole cup of Borax and I have the Maytag front loader

that says you dont need that much for regular soap...if something

is really soiled I use another 1/2 cup....the key though is to

wash your clothes and towels etc after ONE use and never let them

get that dirty in the first place if possilbe

I got what I consider the best source of water in the world if you

can't get a well or do the rainwater from J C at 724-287-5555

for anyone that wants to chat with him - I have been drinking it exclusively

since 1999 --- Bonnie's partner that many of you know who sells Dr.

products used it for his drinking water and referred me.

@...: tparker7600@...: Tue, 12 Aug 2008

09:20:11 -0400Subject: RE: Bleach

I HOME distill my water for drinking and you dont want the sears plastic type it

gets garbage in itI have an excellent source for anyone that wants one home made

that is better than most inexpensive store bought etc...if anyone wantsto

knowDr@...: plwp@...: Tue, 12 Aug 2008

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question. If I answered all of them individually it would take up a lot of

space. Tp, I was wondering if you would share where you can find hydrogen

peroxide 35% in a 55 gallon drum? That sure is a lot. Isn't it kind of

flammable?I have used the borax and baking soda. We have pretty hard water here.

The clothes start looking dingy and grey. Also, the staining problem. The

peroxide sounded like the way to go. I had some at one time but where I got it

is nolonger in business.I use a water filter for drinking water. I read

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I have used J C at 724-287-5555 for my water distiller and

only will drink that water since 1999. Bonnie's partner that

sells Dr. products that many of you know used the distilled

water too and referred me to him

Dr@...: snaffles@...: Tue, 12 Aug 2008

07:09:49 -0500Subject: Re: Bleach

a do you have any farm supply places near you? Stores that sell chemicals or

fertilizers to farmers? Perhaps you could try there.Also, can anyone tell me how

much baking soda or vinegar, OR 35% peroxide to put into a washer? I usually

wash clothes with a full load.thank youJoycea wrote:>>> Tp, I was

wondering if you would share where you can find hydrogen > peroxide 35% in a 55

gallon drum? That sure is a lot. Isn't it kind of > flammable?>> I have used the

borax and baking soda. We have pretty hard water here. > The clothes start

looking dingy and grey. Also, the staining problem. > The peroxide sounded like

the way to go. I had some at one time but > where I got it is nolonger in

business.>>> a>> for Alzheimers?>> New business?>> Get new customers. >

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The place I buy my Food Grade h2o2 is www.dfwx.com/h2o2.htm

I think they have the pool type as well. All sizes but shipping is a doozy.

Be very careful handling the 35% as it will BURN you.

Bleach

Thanks to everyone that responded to my question. If I answered all of them

individually it would take up a lot of space.

Tp, I was wondering if you would share where you can find hydrogen peroxide

35% in a 55 gallon drum? That sure is a lot. Isn't it kind of flammable?

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Yes it will " burn " (STING is what I would say not burn you) but not really bad

I use it to replace cleansing my hands with the everclear sometimes

when they are real dirty from yard work or whatever

and if I am preparing food etc

if you have sensitive skin

or tender skin maybe be more careful

and after scrubing them with borax it just

stings but helps purify my hands.

( clorox will burn you also lol so handle it

accordingly - although I feel clorox is worse personally )

By the way on the water distiller I did not use Mr. 's plastic

5 gallon water jug.... I use a 5 gallon glass jug which I believe is the lesser

of the 2 evils - my body does not like plastic. You can usually find them on

ebay or sometimes

if the pottery barn type places locally.

Dr@...: cotteni@...: Tue, 12 Aug 2008

08:32:45 -0500Subject: Re: Bleach

The place I buy my Food Grade h2o2 is www.dfwx.com/h2o2.htm I think they have

the pool type as well. All sizes but shipping is a doozy.Be very careful

handling the 35% as it will BURN you.

BleachThanks to everyone that responded to my question. If I answered

all of them individually it would take up a lot of space. Tp, I was wondering if

you would share where you can find hydrogen peroxide 35% in a 55 gallon drum?

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Armein sent an email around saying Dr.

had a protocol of 7 oils or whatever for tapeworms now

Does anyone have that " recipe " and how to use it etc

which oils, how many drops, how often etc?

Dr@...: cotteni@...: Tue, 12 Aug 2008

08:32:45 -0500Subject: Re: Bleach

The place I buy my Food Grade h2o2 is www.dfwx.com/h2o2.htm I think they have

the pool type as well. All sizes but shipping is a doozy.Be very careful

handling the 35% as it will BURN you.

BleachThanks to everyone that responded to my question. If I answered

all of them individually it would take up a lot of space. Tp, I was wondering if

you would share where you can find hydrogen peroxide 35% in a 55 gallon drum?

That sure is a lot. Isn't it kind of flammable?[Non-text portions of this

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Thank you cotton for that source. I used not food grade for my

55 gallon drum for the pool and cleaning and clothes etc and

it was about $150 total for the 55 gallons with no delivery charge

since it was local.

Dr@...: cotteni@...: Tue, 12 Aug 2008

08:32:45 -0500Subject: Re: Bleach

The place I buy my Food Grade h2o2 is www.dfwx.com/h2o2.htm I think they have

the pool type as well. All sizes but shipping is a doozy.Be very careful

handling the 35% as it will BURN you.

BleachThanks to everyone that responded to my question. If I answered

all of them individually it would take up a lot of space. Tp, I was wondering if

you would share where you can find hydrogen peroxide 35% in a 55 gallon drum?

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Is not bleach used to whiten breadmaking flour? It used

to be.

ce

> Thank you cotton for that source. I used not food grade for my

> 55 gallon drum for the pool and cleaning and clothes etc and

> it was about $150 total for the 55 gallons with no delivery charge

> since it was local.

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> The place I buy my Food Grade h2o2 is www.dfwx.com/h2o2.htm I

think they have the pool type as well. All sizes but shipping is a

doozy.Be very careful handling the 35% as it will BURN you.-----

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BleachThanks to everyone that responded to my question. If I

answered all of them individually it would take up a lot of space.

Tp, I was wondering if you would share where you can find hydrogen

peroxide 35% in a 55 gallon drum? That sure is a lot. Isn't it kind

of flammable?

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One final note on clean clothes...if at all possible get

a FRONT loader washing machine as opposed to a TOP loader

washing machine and that will really clean your clothes

so much better they say (MIELE I think is suppose

to be the very best one on the planet however it is expensive,

Maytag FRONT loaders are more reasonalble.)

Dr@...: cotteni@...: Tue, 12 Aug 2008

08:32:45 -0500Subject: Re: Bleach

The place I buy my Food Grade h2o2 is www.dfwx.com/h2o2.htm I think they have

the pool type as well. All sizes but shipping is a doozy.Be very careful

handling the 35% as it will BURN you.

BleachThanks to everyone that responded to my question. If I answered

all of them individually it would take up a lot of space. Tp, I was wondering if

you would share where you can find hydrogen peroxide 35% in a 55 gallon drum?

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Thanks tp. You have beern a big help. There is a pool store not too far from

here. I actually have a Maytag frontloader also. I will stick to the Borax and

get some peroxide. I have used the Armon and Hammer before, but not for a long

time.

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I pour peroxide over all of my hands lol ....it stings in the finger nails for

me

sometimes VERY much if I have cut my nails too short or something however

it does NOT leave BURNS as in a fire is what I was trying to point out lol.

run cold water over your hands and the STING is gone. Occasionally

it will leave a white space here and there but so what???? I don't care! lol

No, I use J C 's distiller that he makes himself for people and it pours

into a container of your choice - he sells 5 gallon plastic ones of some type

however I prefer the glass ones so I bought my 5 gallon glass jug for the

water to pour into as it is being made in Jc's distiller. The 5 gallon jug has

NOTHING to do with MAKING the water, it HOLDS the water that is being made

which in my case usually last me about a week or more usually.

Jc's telephone number

is 724-287-5555 if you would like to talk with him about his distiller...it

first

evaporates some of the impurties in an open chamber into the air as the water

is hot --- then it goes into the distiller enclosed chamber....and let him tell

you

about all that if you like.

As far as my soap recommendations for washing clothes that someone requested

again.

First of all if you possibly can get a front loading machine not a top loading

machine...

thats the most important thing regardless of what you use to wash them with

Then the front loading machines are suppose to take less soap however I put 1

FULL HEAPING

measuring cup full of BORAX in my Front loader machine. Years ago when I had a

TOP loader

machine, I put in 2 heaping cups of BORAX in my top loader.

If you feel you need " clorox " then I substitute a little Hydrogen Peroxide 35%

and I use

about 1/2 of what my bleach dispenser in my machine will hold unless they are

really grungy and need clorox bad and then I put all that my bleach dispenser

will

hold except I once again use 35% hydrogen peroxide never ever clorox....If I

don't feel that

hydrogen peroxide (or clorox) is needed for what I am washing I fill my

bleach dispenser with WHITE vinegar and if Im around pour in about that same

amount to make it twice the amount my dispenser will hold.

Dr@...: cotteni@...: Tue, 12 Aug 2008

11:20:51 -0500Subject: Re: Bleach

You must use a diluted solution to wash your hands, huh? If I get just a couple

of drops of 35% straight on a finger it burns the skin and turns it white. Wash

in plenty of water stops the burn but it takes a while for skin to return to

normal.Tp, how do you use the 5 gal. jug to purify water? RE: BleachYes it will " burn " (STING is what I would say not

burn you) but not really badI use it to replace cleansing my hands with the

everclear sometimeswhen they are real dirty from yard work or whatever and if I

am preparing food etcif you have sensitive skinor tender skin maybe be more

carefuland after scrubing them with borax it

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youre welcome...the pool store will not have peroxide though - just clorine.

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Thanks tp. You have beern a big help. There is a pool store not too far from

here. I actually have a Maytag frontloader also. I will stick to the Borax and

get some peroxide. I have used the Armon and Hammer before, but not for a long

time.a

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How long is your wash cycle? If the wash cycle goes for more than 10 min

(depending on the hardness of your water). When the cleaning agents break

down, the gray dinge appears and " washes into the clothes " . And then we put

them in the dryer and bake them in. Personally, I rinse them twice and put

baking soda in the final rinse. And whenever possible, dry them outside. The

sun is the best whitener.

Loads of fun, june

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I have used the borax and baking soda. We have pretty hard water here. The

clothes start looking dingy and grey. Also, the staining problem. The

peroxide sounded like the way to go. I had some at one time but where I got

it is nolonger in business.

I use a water filter for drinking water. I read somewhere that you could

neutralize chlorine by putting in some vitamin C.

That was very informative info. Thankyou

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I also have to say something about bleach. My naturopathic doctor will not allow my daughter or I to even spray it in a diluted form anywhere near us. If I had been near it she could tell by testing me. It is extremely toxic to the body. Anything toxic to the body will destroy your immune system. See the problem here? All those chemicals used on a daily basis erode the already struggling immune system. Don't use bleach anywhere in your house or in your laundry. If you want to disinfect your laundry use natural Borax. That makes hydrogen peroxide in the wash.

We have become so phobic about germs. Lets face it. We get sick. It is good for us to get sick once in awhile. Helps your immune system to build up antibodies. Making it stronger. I think we focus way too much on all these toxic products that weaken the immune system and help viruses to become stronger instead of just washing our hands with good old natural soap and focusing on healing/strengthening our immune systems. The more you shelter that immune system. The weaker it will get.

hugs,

Sue

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Hi - So much pain for one person to go through, I really feelfor you. I'm glad you reminded me about magnesium citrate and calciumcitrate as I did take that for awhile. Even though I do eat a widevariety of foods. But just lately my feet are cramping in the toes area.So I must buy some of the magnesium/calcium product again. Like you, Ido feel gratitude whenever there is improvement.On Christmas day 1984 (big family get-together) I had my first truemigraine. Couldn't turn, bend, or even think straight, and the pain wasexcruciating. I think I had a second lesser migraine a few years later.Thankfully, besides normal headaches I have never experienced any moremigraines. The reason I'm telling you this is because I do know howpainful and dragging-down it can be. But for you to endure 4wksmigraines, and kidney stone pains must have been terrible. I'm sorry youhad to

suffer so. I suppose not getting the flu is the bonus out of itall.I am concerned about you using bleach. I stopped using bleach about 8 -10yrs ago. There is the toxic smell and it is a powerful chemical. Ithink very detrimental to our health...call it a hunch if you like. Ihope you don't have to endure further migraines or unrelenting kidneypain. Take care and you are in my thoughts and prayers.Merry Christmas & Peace to you and your loved ones.Love & hugsCarlene>> I agree with you Carlene, I myself take daily magnesium citrate andcalcuim citrate which using both together usually prevents me fromhaving severe muscle

spasms and cramps in my feet and calves. I stillunfortunately have them in both sides of my rib cages though quiteoften, but at least------------------------------------

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I hear you loud and clear. I was wondering though, have you tried Borax in your toilet bowl , and does it really clean as well as Bleach for that particular purpose?journeyintolife

From: Carlene <carlene.grimshaw>Subject: Re: What Foods are High in Magnesium ? Fish; Greens; Beans; Nuts; Seeds.Date: Saturday, December 12, 2009, 12:52 AM

Hi - So much pain for one person to go through, I really feelfor you. I'm glad you reminded me about magnesium citrate and calciumcitrate as I did take that for awhile. Even though I do eat a widevariety of foods. But just lately my feet are cramping in the toes area.So I must buy some of the magnesium/calcium product again. Like you, Ido feel gratitude whenever there is improvement.On Christmas day 1984 (big family get-together) I had my first truemigraine. Couldn't turn, bend, or even think straight, and the pain wasexcruciating. I think I had a second lesser migraine a few years later.Thankfully, besides normal headaches I have never experienced any moremigraines. The reason I'm telling you this is because I do know howpainful and dragging-down it can be. But for you to endure 4wksmigraines, and kidney stone pains must have been terrible. I'm sorry youhad to

suffer so. I suppose not getting the flu is the bonus out of itall.I am concerned about you using bleach. I stopped using bleach about 8 -10yrs ago. There is the toxic smell and it is a powerful chemical. Ithink very detrimental to our health...call it a hunch if you like. Ihope you don't have to endure further migraines or unrelenting kidneypain. Take care and you are in my thoughts and prayers.Merry Christmas & Peace to you and your loved ones.Love & hugsCarlene>> I agree with you Carlene, I myself take daily magnesium citrate andcalcuim citrate which using both together usually prevents me fromhaving severe muscle spasms and cramps

in my feet and calves. I stillunfortunately have them in both sides of my rib cages though quiteoften, but at least------------ --------- --------- ------

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