Sinus Infections

[Guest guest]

Hi Rita and all,

I have to say that I had the sinus infection of all time, horrible and I took

two things at the same time, Singulair and Bactroban Spray, mixed as

explained. My sinus infection went away in about 5 days and now I am totally

normal, no problems whatsoever at all.

I still take the Singulair every day, but the Bactroban Spray is faithfully

waiting for my next post nasal drip. I truly believe in it. My brother is 63

yrs old with horrible sinus infection, tried only the Bactroban Spray and again

with him in about 5 to 7 days the infection was gone and his sinus clear. It

sounds too good to be true, but it truly does work, especially in association

with Singulair.

I know were all different, but I have a strong feeling that this Bactroban Spray

will work for almost any sinus infection if a person takes it three times a day.

Well, that's all folks, Happy weekend, Kurt

PS. Perhaps will post his mixture again.

sinus infections

,

I would appreciate it if you would post your remedies for sinus

infections.

Thank you, Rita Horwitz

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[Guest guest]

Hello All,

must be gone for the weekend. The mixture goes as follows:

-You get a prescription from your doctor for Bactroban, 22 grams, (Mupirocin

Ointment 2%)

-Then when you go to pick up the prescription you pick up a bottle (15 fl oz) of

Ocean Spray Nasal Spray. Or any comparable make of Saline Nasal Spray.

Then you take the top off the saline spray and take out the nozzle. Then open

the Bactroban tube and squeeze out 1/3 of the tube into the Nasal spray bottle.

Replace the nozzle and the cap and shake it to mix it well.

Then you can spray into each nostril as you breath in, I do a couple of sprays

in each side.

I don't know what others do at this time, but just after I spray I roll my head

around to get the spray and liquid all around in my Sinus. I even lay on a bed

and hand my head down backward and on each side etc.

I do this three times a day. Morning, noon and Night.

, when you read this, if I have made any mistakes, please make corrections

and you can also tell everyone about your other nasal spray that you use. I

can't find that one, I have it written down somewhere.

Good luck everyone. I strongly urge that you also take Singulair, also a

prescription from your doctor.

Regards, Kurt

[Guest guest]

Kurt - Is there any specific reason that you use Singulair? I am using

allegra at the moment .

It's strange. Just a short time ago I wrote questioning what all the

talk was about sinus infections. Now I am so congested most every day

that it's phenomenal. I also get " weepy " eyes.

Anyway - thanks so much for the " recipe " . I'm gonna get on it.

Bonnie

Re: Sinus infections

Hello All,

must be gone for the weekend. The mixture goes as follows:

-You get a prescription from your doctor for Bactroban, 22 grams,

(Mupirocin Ointment 2%)

-Then when you go to pick up the prescription you pick up a bottle (15

fl oz) of Ocean Spray Nasal Spray. Or any comparable make of Saline

Nasal Spray.

Then you take the top off the saline spray and take out the nozzle.

Then open the Bactroban tube and squeeze out 1/3 of the tube into the

Nasal spray bottle. Replace the nozzle and the cap and shake it to mix

it well.

Then you can spray into each nostril as you breath in, I do a couple of

sprays in each side.

I don't know what others do at this time, but just after I spray I roll

my head around to get the spray and liquid all around in my Sinus. I

even lay on a bed and hand my head down backward and on each side etc.

I do this three times a day. Morning, noon and Night.

, when you read this, if I have made any mistakes, please make

corrections and you can also tell everyone about your other nasal spray

that you use. I can't find that one, I have it written down somewhere.

Good luck everyone. I strongly urge that you also take Singulair, also

a prescription from your doctor.

Regards, Kurt

[Guest guest]

Kurt - thank you - here is a copy of my original e-mail -

_____________________

There was a posting on the ACOR group about certain batches of Bactroban

being recalled. Nice of people to notice and post such things!

I thought it might be useful to refresh here what the Bactroban issue is all

about. (I learned about it from someone on ACOR, I shamefully forgot her name.)

Bactroban is a prescription antibiotic ointment. It comes in tubes of 22

grams.

Here is the formula that seems to be working for me:

Take a little bottle of Ocean Spray (40 mililiters). You can pry open the

top, it is not full. Squeeze in about 5 grams (1/4 of the tube) of Bactroban,

close again, shake vigorously. Then use as a nose spray once or twice a day.

Or have a pharmacist mix it up for you.

Every time I begin to have a colorful discharge, I spray with this mix, and

it gets better. The shelf life is supposedly 30 days.

Two other items I have found very useful for sinus problems:

One is a steroidal nasal spray called NASAREL (also prescription).

The other is a product called ALCOLOL (over the counter). Take a baby

syringe, 5 cc's, and fill it with half ALCOLOL, half warm water. (ALCOLOL alone

stings.)

Fill each nostril with this stuff, about 5 cc's. I use two syringes, so that

I can do it simultaneously in both.

With head tilted back, hold for 10 seconds. Swish your head around. If you

can, hold longer. Then tilt you head forward, let it all flow into a towel, blow

your nose. You'll be amazed at how this cleans the sinuses!!

Folks, these are not prescriptions, not medical advice. Just something that

seems to be working for a number of us.

Good Health!

Balan

[Guest guest]

Bonnie,

I forget the exact reasons, but apparently Allegra is an antihistamine like so

many of the medications out there that try to mask the symptoms of sinus

problems, while Singulair is a medication that treats the cause of the symptoms.

Singulair fights the inflammation that causes sinus problems, partially

eliminating the body's natural defense mechanism by treating the body's

receptors and therefore keeping the Sinus from over-defending against all the

normal causes of Allergies that we receive in the air and otherwise.

's site has a very involved and detailed description of this normal

overactive body function and why it happens and how Singulair treats the cause

and changes the body's reactions and helps keep the sinus from being inflamed.

Best to go there and read about the actual causes and how it all works. Also,

most doctors these days are very familiar with Singulair and how it works and

most doctors prescribe it to many of their patients and the general reaction is

very good and very high with most people who use it.

Check it out. Regards, Kurt

Re: Sinus infections

Hello All,

must be gone for the weekend. The mixture goes as follows:

-You get a prescription from your doctor for Bactroban, 22 grams,

(Mupirocin Ointment 2%)

-Then when you go to pick up the prescription you pick up a bottle (15

fl oz) of Ocean Spray Nasal Spray. Or any comparable make of Saline

Nasal Spray.

Then you take the top off the saline spray and take out the nozzle.

Then open the Bactroban tube and squeeze out 1/3 of the tube into the

Nasal spray bottle. Replace the nozzle and the cap and shake it to mix

it well.

Then you can spray into each nostril as you breath in, I do a couple of

sprays in each side.

I don't know what others do at this time, but just after I spray I roll

my head around to get the spray and liquid all around in my Sinus. I

even lay on a bed and hand my head down backward and on each side etc.

I do this three times a day. Morning, noon and Night.

, when you read this, if I have made any mistakes, please make

corrections and you can also tell everyone about your other nasal spray

that you use. I can't find that one, I have it written down somewhere.

Good luck everyone. I strongly urge that you also take Singulair, also

a prescription from your doctor.

Regards, Kurt

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

I never really thought about it before, but it seems throughout my adult life, I

have always had something going on with my sinuses ~ often with the discolored

stuff and a slight sore throat, but most of the time it comes and goes

independent of any medication... Since I've been on the MTX and Remicade, I

keep fearing that it will turn into a full blown case, but it hasn't or doesn't

~ and it also doesn't seem to be contagious... I've sort of just figured it

isn't an infection (despite the " colored " stuff)...

Hmmmm....

Happy New Year All...

(idaho)

[Guest guest]

I had saved your message to reply to it after I knew what the ENT decided. I

must admit that I was leary of having the surgery after hearing from you and I

was afraid that with my liver, I wouldn't be given enough anesthetic. The doctor

was thinking that he needed to do it before any transplant (due to taking all

those immunosupressive drugs).

Last night he phoned me at home around 8 (after having looked at my repeat CT

scan & told me that he really didn't feel like I needed surgery and that he

would just drain in the office one more time. I'm thrilled. Now, if I could just

get over the pneumonia, I'd

be ecstatic.....

bursten1948 <bubblesburstin@...> wrote:

LINDA,

Well, you are finally meeting someone with lots of problems. I have been

battling sinusitis

for 13 years and have had 8 surgeries with little improvement. I am becoming

allergic to

more and more antibiotics. I have had frequent rounds of IV antibiotics for 3

months at a

time and still the problem continues. I am on antibiotics about every 6 weeks.

[Guest guest]

Hi lindy..... I have had sinus infections on and off through out my

life....i am assured i had one before my hip resurface. The risk, if

any. is very minimal, but you should always tell your doc and let him

decide what is best. He may want you to see an ENT doc and have you

placed on antibiotics before surgery or he may want to wait or he may

not care, but always inform him of everything. I think blood borne

bacterial infections are probably what they are concerned with gum

infections sometimes cystitis etc. I have a sinus infection now....we

have had nothing but high winds and crazy weather in LA and my

allergies start with the winds and i have fluid in my ears and i pick

up a virus and that will eventually lead to a sinus infection.....

really a hasssel those allergies!!!!!Ksren

[Guest guest]

. . .

We've had crazy weather here in Wisconsin, USA as well. It was so unseasonably warm for so long there and now, it's windy and frigid, brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr. At least the cold is normal. It was freaky when it was so warm. I know my allergies are acting up -- they don't know what the heck is going on out there. ;-)

I did talk to the nurse on Monday and she said as long as I'm not coughing up or blowing yellow or green (which I am not) then I'm okay for surgery. YaaaaaaaaaaaY. I'm glad, because I didn't come this far to have to cancel for a plugged up nose.

Lindy

Hi lindy..... I have had sinus infections on and off through out mylife....i am assured i had one before my hip resurface. The risk, ifany. is very minimal, but you should always tell your doc and let himdecide what is best. He may want you to see an ENT doc and have youplaced on antibiotics before surgery or he may want to wait or he maynot care, but always inform him of everything. I think blood bornebacterial infections are probably what they are concerned with guminfections sometimes cystitis etc. I have a sinus infection now....wehave had nothing but high winds and crazy weather in LA and myallergies start with the winds and i have fluid in my ears and i pickup a virus and that will eventually lead to a sinus infection.....really a hasssel those allergies!!!!!Ksren

[Guest guest]

Perhaps try a nettie pot (is that spelled right) with sea salt. I use

a plastic bottle and sea salt and tilt my head to squirt it up one

nostril and it drains out the other nostril. The switch nostrils. I

found cutting down on milk and wheat products helped. Ann

>

> Does anyone have suggestions for sinus infections? I did not have them

> last winter; I thought it was from the andrographis which I have

> developed a reaction to.

>

> I use the sinus rinse, and have used a number of herbs over the years,

> all to no avail. I would end up having to take amoxicillin despite the

> other things I tried. Mushrooms, larch, etc. Any ideas? jo

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Jo,

I'm re-posting below a previous post of mine re how I got rid of sinus

infections.

good luck. -

I used to get sinus infections so bad, I once missed 4 days from a new

job. I got them every time I had a cold, and if I didn't have a cold,

and each time I got them, they were worse.

I read in a Chinese medicine book that Sinus infection is caused by a

depressed immune system. [This was all years before Lyme]. So I

started taking Esberitox (a super-charged from of Echinacae which is

supposed to boost the immune system). Every time I woke up with that

particular tickle in my nose which I knew meant that a full-blown

sinus infection was on the way, I took Esberitox. I never got an

infection. After a few months, I realized I didn't get that tickle

either. Now it's been maybe 6 years and I have not had a sinus

infection since. In fact, I rarely get a cold. I don't take Echinacae

any more. I only took when I had that tickle.

The Esberitox I took is made by Enzymatic Therapy, and I got it from

Iherb.

ellen

>

> Does anyone have suggestions for sinus infections? I did not have them

> last winter; I thought it was from the andrographis which I have

> developed a reaction to.

>

> I use the sinus rinse, and have used a number of herbs over the years,

> all to no avail. I would end up having to take amoxicillin despite the

> other things I tried. Mushrooms, larch, etc. Any ideas? jo

>

[Guest guest]

Ann, The sinus rinse bottle does the same thing as the nettie pot;

water/saline solution in one nostril which drains out the other,

cleaning the nose and sinuses. Thanks for your suggestion though. jo

[Guest guest]

Heat. Since I've been cooking myself in the hot tub daily, my sinuses

have been completely clear. Hubby's sinuses too.

Before getting the hot tub, I just used the bath tub and soaked in

water as hot as I could stand it. Wonderful results. I think it

is due to raising my core temp, rather than breathing in steam. Kill

'em from the inside.

D.

wyomin@... wrote:

>

> Does anyone have suggestions for sinus infections? I did not have them

> last winter; I thought it was from the andrographis which I have

> developed a reaction to.

>

> I use the sinus rinse, and have used a number of herbs over the years,

> all to no avail. I would end up having to take amoxicillin despite the

> other things I tried. Mushrooms, larch, etc. Any ideas? jo

>

[Guest guest]

Oh , what I wouldn't give for a tub! I have only a shower in the

place I moved to 4 years ago. I used to 'cook' myself every afternoon

too. I loved it. I now use an electric 'throw' to bake my legs and

thighs, but its a poor substitute. jo

[Guest guest]

Janice:  they are a side effect that is listed on the Enbrel label.  I am prone

to sinus problems but have only had a couple of mild sinus headaches this fall

(after about 18 months on Enbrel) but I'm lucky in that I've had NO infections,

since starting on it - not even a cold. 

 Joanna Hoelscher

[Guest guest]

You will always have infections as long as you are using immune

suppressing drugs.

vinnylid

[Guest guest]

Janice,

 

YES YES YES!!!  I was actually going to write and post something about this very

topic.  I have been on Humira since the beginning of July.  Since then I have

been treated for 2 sinus infections, one which then developed into bronchitis! 

Between these I still have had sinus issues.  Everyone at work says I have been

sick for the past 3 months!  I've missed a couple doses of my Humira due to

this.  I hate not taking it because if I miss a dose or two I resort back to

pain and trouble getting around.  I hate having to choose between being sick or

not being able to walk!!!  Just wanted to share that you are not the only one!

 

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[Guest guest]

Janice,

I'm not taking Enbrel but have suffered from chronic sinus infections since my

first transplant in 96. I found the best thing to keep them at bay is to get

the NeilMed sinus rinse system and use it either daily if needed or every couple

days. You can find it available at Walmart or just about any pharmacy. It's

not expensive about $12.00 for the starter kit and $10.00 for the refills of the

premix solution to use. This comes direct from my ENT who suggested using this

after surgery over 7 years ago. My sinus infections were a 100% worse when I

was on the immunosuppressive so I know what it's like. I still get them

regularly but this helps a lot to keep them to a minimum.

If you can take them get on a decongestant daily to keep your sinuses open I use

pseudafed along with being on a prescription for singulair and flonase.

Good luck

Celeste

[Guest guest]

Not necessarily. I've been on Enbrel for years and the only bout I had was

some persistent staph in my nose last year (not MRSA thankfully). In fact I

think I have had fewer colds and infections since I've been on Enbrel than

before.

" Lukoff " <lukoff@...>

On Fri, Nov 21, 2008 at 7:49 AM, vinnylid <vinnylid@...> wrote:

> You will always have infections as long as you are using immune

> suppressing drugs.

[Guest guest]

I realize that I may just be an aberration, but at least in my case it is not

true that " you will always have infections as long as you are using immune

suppressing drugs " .  I have not had a single infection since starting on Enbrel

nearly 18 months ago - not even a cold.  In fact, last winter and this were the

first at least a decade that I haven't had a severe upper respiratory

infection.  Even my winter-time nasal allergies that typically begin in

September and end in May or June are almost non-existent this year (and this

last one I really don't understand!!!)  By October, they are so bad that I

cannot breathe thru my nose without the aid of both Zyrtec D and a steroidal

nasal spray.  Now, I still use them on occasion when I think of it but - without

any symptoms - I forget most of the time. 

 Joanna Hoelscher

[Guest guest]

HI JENICE,

I had a tooth infection and had to take out four teeth. So I stopped taking

Humira. The infection was terrible, and the only way of stopping the teeth

problems, one after another, was by throwing away the Humira.

Now besides the other PA problems I have I need a transplant of four teeth.

That will cost $10,000 (US) and lots of unpleasant mouth treatments.

ARIE

[Guest guest]

Allow me to add to that total truth another fact: I never met a doctor who would

confirm that infections have any direct connection to the Humira, Enbrel, or

Remicade, but [in my opinion] it is absolutly so.

arie

<<You will always have infections as long as you are using immune

suppressing drugs.

vinnylid>>

[Guest guest]

Vinny, I am using immune-suppressing drugs and I have NOT had one

single infection of any kind since I started taking them. I used to

have chronic sinus infections BEFORE I started taking the drugs.

regards, sherry z

>

> You will always have infections as long as you are using immune

> suppressing drugs.

>

> vinnylid

>

[Guest guest]

Then how do your explain the fact that so many of us have not had ANY

infections at all while on those drugs? And that many of us had

chronic infections in the past and now have none? We could just as

easily argue that Enbrel and Humira PREVENT infections! That, of

course, is not the case but neither is it a " total truth " that " you

will always have infections as long as you are using immune suppressing

drugs. " regards, sherry z

[Guest guest]

I have not had any and I am on two different immune suppressing drugs now. I

just take reasonable precautions.

Gareeth

vinnylid wrote:

> You will always have infections as long as you are using immune

> suppressing drugs.

>